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Monique Balthur	Posted - 2007.08.02 22:43:00 - [1] WEll, after testing on SISI I came to an conclusion that.. nanocurse is dead. (before spaming, recon ships lvl 5) While killing one's cap, your cap is bigger than his, ergo nos=off even 4 nosferatus arent reliable enough and cant permarun a mwd (approx 3minutes) tanking curse is a bad idea anyway, the bonuses favor longrange combat. I am yet to test some missle using setups, but thats not how we love our Curse, right ? It would be cool if CCP explained why they killed the only solopwnmobile of the Amarr.. oh btw, this is my alt, my main is inactive, so I cant post on forums Leo Balthur
Selia Rain	Posted - 2007.08.02 22:44:00 - [2] Try cap boosting and mixing in some neutralizers. Adapt or Die.
Valerian Xavier Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.02 22:49:00 - [3] umm there aren't supposed to be 'solopwnmobiles'
Monique Balthur	Posted - 2007.08.02 22:50:00 - [4] I know that comprehensive reading is a perk but plz learn it. If you kill the victims cap, the new-nos won't work, so it's not the point. The Curse becomes a noob ship.
Fswd	Posted - 2007.08.02 22:52:00 - [5] Energy neuts also benefit from curse's bonus. --- Free exotic dancers for mods that mod my sig Snip Please do not discuss moderation in your signature. -Yipsilanti ([email protected]) <-- freebie for you
Erlik Draknor Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.08.02 22:56:00 - [6] fit 4 energy neuts and you are set
me bored	Posted - 2007.08.02 23:06:00 - [7] perhaps the nanosac will be the new pwnmobile? Originally by: Valerian Xavier umm there aren't supposed to be 'solopwnmobiles' but they invariably exist whether they're supposed to or not.
Monique Balthur	Posted - 2007.08.02 23:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Fswd Energy neuts also benefit from curse's bonus. Originally by: Erlik Draknor fit 4 energy neuts and you are set you guys really dont fly a curse do you ? ;] IF I KILL HIS CAP, WHAT WILL BE MY CAP SOURCE ?? btw nanofits always have a mwd, and mwd needs cap.
me bored	Posted - 2007.08.02 23:11:00 - [9] Edited by: me bored on 02/08/2007 23:13:55 Originally by: Monique Balthur you guys really dont fly a curse do you ? ;] IF I KILL HIS CAP, WHAT WILL BE MY CAP SOURCE ?? btw nanofits always have a mwd, and mwd needs cap. Originally by: Selia Rain Try cap boosting I know that comprehensive reading is a perk but plz learn it.
Matroshka Crimson Squall Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.02 23:11:00 - [10] Edited by: Matroshka on 02/08/2007 23:13:03 Originally by: Monique Balthur Originally by: Fswd Energy neuts also benefit from curse's bonus. Originally by: Erlik Draknor fit 4 energy neuts and you are set you guys really dont fly a curse do you ? ;] IF I KILL HIS CAP, WHAT WILL BE MY CAP SOURCE ?? btw nanofits always have a mwd, and mwd needs cap. Maybe you will just have to pick your targets now? Like targets that cannot tank or do damage without cap. -------------
Darius Amir	Posted - 2007.08.03 00:03:00 - [11] Originally by: Matroshka Edited by: Matroshka on 02/08/2007 23:13:03 Originally by: Monique Balthur Originally by: Fswd Energy neuts also benefit from curse's bonus. Originally by: Erlik Draknor fit 4 energy neuts and you are set you guys really dont fly a curse do you ? ;] IF I KILL HIS CAP, WHAT WILL BE MY CAP SOURCE ?? btw nanofits always have a mwd, and mwd needs cap. Maybe you will just have to pick your targets now? Like targets that cannot tank or do damage without cap. Oh like other Amarr!!! I love being Amarr! SO many benefits!!! </sarcasm>
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.08.03 00:14:00 - [12] Did any of you notice the "NOS change didn't go as planned, tryint to fix"-like MOTDs these days on SiSi ? Probably not. The Curse should see ABSOLUTELY NO CHANGES compared to previous values. As long as YOUR capacitor is lower as your target's (and with your MWD "going off for lack of cap" I can only assume that's also the case)... WTF do you go on about the "is dead" stuff ? Even before, "sucking" an empty ship yielded no capacitor anyway, so what's the fuss ? _ Complaint vs whine \| Char creation guide \| Stacknerfs explained
James Grand Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.08.03 00:40:00 - [13] Originally by: Monique Balthur The Curse becomes a noob ship. No, the Curse was a noob ship. Now it might take some actual skill to fly. -------------------------------------------------- The opinions expressed in my posts are entirely my own.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.08.03 00:40:00 - [14] Originally by: James Grand No, the Curse was a noob ship. Now it might take some actual skill to fly. QFE, QFT, QF the heck of it. _ Complaint vs whine \| Char creation guide \| Stacknerfs explained
Borasao	Posted - 2007.08.03 01:54:00 - [15] Yeah... instead of lock, F1-F5, /afk, sammich, come back and loot you have to actualy fly it now. Plus, there are a number of posts from other Curse pilots who say that there is only a little change since with a MWD you run out of cap anyway in a nanoCurse. They seem to have figured it out. I guess not everybody can. (Yes, I fly a Curse on occassion... for my uses, I won't be hurt too much.)
Orin Fatch The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.08.03 02:11:00 - [16] Originally by: Darius Amir Originally by: Matroshka Edited by: Matroshka on 02/08/2007 23:13:03 Originally by: Monique Balthur Originally by: Fswd Energy neuts also benefit from curse's bonus. Originally by: Erlik Draknor fit 4 energy neuts and you are set you guys really dont fly a curse do you ? ;] IF I KILL HIS CAP, WHAT WILL BE MY CAP SOURCE ?? btw nanofits always have a mwd, and mwd needs cap. Maybe you will just have to pick your targets now? Like targets that cannot tank or do damage without cap. Oh like other Amarr!!! I love being Amarr! SO many benefits!!! </sarcasm> Ahahah, you are the biggest sook. I fly the curse. It was too overpowered solo 1v1 before. Now its inline. and still very effective. go cry to your mom if your still having trouble. This game isnt for you. because you cant hack losing. ---- ALL YOUR LOOTZ ARE BELONG TO US!
Bardi MecAuldnis Amarr Sp00t	Posted - 2007.08.03 03:02:00 - [17] My Curse seems fine. Then again I didn't fly the FotM nano-curse. You'd be really surprised how effective a cap booster can be. That's how I used to take on nano-curses. See if a cap booster is right for you. Side effects include: having to pay attention while flying, using strategy, using teamwork, and reduced whining. --- Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!!
throbbinnoggin Gallente Eminent Domain	Posted - 2007.08.03 03:06:00 - [18] Originally by: James Grand No, the Curse was a noob ship. Now it might take some actual skill to fly. I hope you don't mind if I include this quote in my sig. It pretty much sums up everything. Originally by: James Grand No, the Curse was a noob ship. Now it might take some actual skill to fly.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.08.03 04:01:00 - [19] Originally by: Monique Balthur I know that comprehensive reading is a perk but plz learn it. If you kill the victims cap, the new-nos won't work, so it's not the point. The Curse becomes a noob ship. stop acting like your cap and the targets cap are equal and rethink your plan. it's % cap, for nos to work. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP Quote: CCP posted a new dev blog, they are going to bring Nos in line with.....well....logic
Phelan Lore Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.08.03 04:46:00 - [20] Originally by: me bored perhaps the nanosac will be the new pwnmobile? I almost want to train up amarr cruiser 5. The new sac will be a FUN ship to fly. -
Ashaz Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.08.03 08:44:00 - [21] Edited by: Ashaz on 03/08/2007 08:47:59 Originally by: Matroshka Edited by: Matroshka on 02/08/2007 23:13:03 Originally by: Monique Balthur Originally by: Fswd Energy neuts also benefit from curse's bonus. Originally by: Erlik Draknor fit 4 energy neuts and you are set you guys really dont fly a curse do you ? ;] IF I KILL HIS CAP, WHAT WILL BE MY CAP SOURCE ?? btw nanofits always have a mwd, and mwd needs cap. Maybe you will just have to pick your targets now? Like targets that cannot tank or do damage without cap. so back to caldari online is it? /me finishes training for the long awaited curse on sunday. Talk about timing bah. whatever. I am sure it will be a fun ship to fly anyway. if I can keep a mwd running on a celestis, then why not on something that can nos from 30 km away. iDrone
TerrorWOLF PURE Legion Pure.	Posted - 2007.08.03 09:25:00 - [22] Originally by: Ashaz Edited by: Ashaz on 03/08/2007 08:47:59 Originally by: Matroshka Edited by: Matroshka on 02/08/2007 23:13:03 Originally by: Monique Balthur Originally by: Fswd Energy neuts also benefit from curse's bonus. Originally by: Erlik Draknor so back to caldari online is it? /me finishes training for the long awaited curse on sunday. Talk about timing bah. whatever. I am sure it will be a fun ship to fly anyway. if I can keep a mwd running on a celestis, then why not on something that can nos from 30 km away. Why did you train for something that was known for a long time that it will be changed / nerft ?? You need to train for the next FOM not the curent one. May Your Death Be Slow And Painful
Grytok German Kings OPUS Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.03 09:45:00 - [23] Curse will not suffer from these changes, you'll just have to switch a few modules. Think CapBooster + Neutralizer What you've to realise is, that there will be far more ships getting a benefit from this change, then ships which will suffer a little. Thats balancing! .
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.03 10:59:00 - [24] Originally by: Monique Balthur Originally by: Fswd Energy neuts also benefit from curse's bonus. Originally by: Erlik Draknor fit 4 energy neuts and you are set you guys really dont fly a curse do you ? ;] IF I KILL HIS CAP, WHAT WILL BE MY CAP SOURCE ?? btw nanofits always have a mwd, and mwd needs cap. seems YOU dotn fly one. Even before nerf if you kill his cap you wont have source anymore!!! and the curse NEED to kill it completely to be able to break any tank. geeez If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Grytok German Kings OPUS Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.03 11:26:00 - [25] I forgot to mention, that there should not be a SoloPWN-Mobile at all in a MMO .
Gabriel Karade Quam Singulari M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.08.03 11:29:00 - [26] Originally by: James Grand Originally by: Monique Balthur The Curse becomes a noob ship. No, the Curse was a noob ship. Now it might take some actual skill to fly. Thread over, let's go home ---------- Video - 'War-Machine'
Monique Balthur	Posted - 2007.08.03 17:34:00 - [27] balancing Originally by: volly Originally by: umop 3pisdn oh noes my overpowered pwnboat got downgraded, oh wells its still good, just going to require a small degree of skill now Ok just to "balance" the other recons: Hugin: Can¦t slow down the target Ship lower than it¦s own speed, Can¦t paint target Ship bigger than it¦s own sig radius Lachesis Can¦t dampen target Ship Scan Resoulution and Targeting range lower than own Sounds fair ok?
Agent Li	Posted - 2007.08.03 17:43:00 - [28] why should there be a solopwnmobile? the Caldari don't have one... ------------------ "Don't be afraid to take advantage of your enemy's weaknesses. Becasuse winning is everything after all."
n0thing omen.	Posted - 2007.08.03 17:52:00 - [29] Originally by: Monique Balthur Originally by: Fswd Energy neuts also benefit from curse's bonus. Originally by: Erlik Draknor fit 4 energy neuts and you are set you guys really dont fly a curse do you ? ;] IF I KILL HIS CAP, WHAT WILL BE MY CAP SOURCE ?? btw nanofits always have a mwd, and mwd needs cap. Hm, your cap source will be your own recharge after a gang kills your target. I mean, you fly recons in gangs? Right? ---
Akashyi Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.03 18:40:00 - [30] Get a geddon and sacrilege.... T3H EZ!
Borasao	Posted - 2007.08.03 18:45:00 - [31] Originally by: Monique Balthur balancing Originally by: volly Originally by: umop 3pisdn oh noes my overpowered pwnboat got downgraded, oh wells its still good, just going to require a small degree of skill now Ok just to "balance" the other recons: Hugin: Can¦t slow down the target Ship lower than it¦s own speed, Can¦t paint target Ship bigger than it¦s own sig radius Lachesis Can¦t dampen target Ship Scan Resoulution and Targeting range lower than own Sounds fair ok? I guess the good Curse pilots will need to also get a lobotomy to make things fair, too They seem to not be having problems. A lobotomy should give them enough problems to equal out and make it fair.
Akashyi Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.03 19:30:00 - [32] Curse still wont be bad... just use neuts and a cap booster and youll be fine im sure. for your own tank, get a cpr or two i guess.. I really dont think itl matter much. Plus really there isnt supposed to be solopwnmobiles in this game anyways...
William DeMeo Gallente Dark and Light inc. D-L	Posted - 2007.08.03 19:43:00 - [33] Originally by: me bored Edited by: me bored on 02/08/2007 23:15:45 Originally by: Monique Balthur you guys really dont fly a curse do you ? ;] IF I KILL HIS CAP, WHAT WILL BE MY CAP SOURCE ?? btw nanofits always have a mwd, and mwd needs cap. see Originally by: Selia Rain Try cap boosting I know that comprehensive reading is a perk but plz learn it. Stop running missions and try to PVP IN A CURSE. Yarr
Monique Balthur	Posted - 2007.08.04 10:31:00 - [34] ppl without skills to fly a curse, plz stfu. I know that nerfing the ship you guys (npcers) were ****ting your pants on sight is cool for ya, but eve will become sth like that : I'm a battleship !!! I'M A BATTLESHIPS !!! I KILLL <insert your local npc rats here> YARRR !!!! YOU CAN'T KILL ME 1vs1 !!! IF YOU CAN NERF IT ^^ PLZ ^^ <^o^>
Grytok German Kings OPUS Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.04 11:11:00 - [35] I'll laugh about all of those, who will get killed by a Solo-Curse after the changes. Testing on SiSi with CapBooster and Neutralizers shows great results .
welsh wizard 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.08.04 11:13:00 - [36] The other races get 'solopwnmobiles'? Caldari don't. Sorry thats OT :P Try flying the Geddon, its a beast.
me bored	Posted - 2007.08.04 11:28:00 - [37] Edited by: me bored on 04/08/2007 11:28:29 Originally by: Monique Balthur You're still unable to form a valid argument and all I've see from you is unconstructive whining and mud slinging. The curse is more or less the most powerful and most difficult to counter ship in the game and skill less FoTM noobs like you are exactly why it deserves to be nerfed.
Vardemis Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.08.04 12:07:00 - [38] NanoCurse is still a viable option, you just need to adapt and in the end it will work even better then before, if you pilot it properly. No more easy mode is good thing and it will become a lot more fun to fly a curse since more skill is involved and it doesn't forgive pilot errors anymore.
Sergeant Zim	Posted - 2007.08.04 14:01:00 - [39] why is it that the curse should use cap boosters? why cant the other ships use cap boosters to counter the curse nos? because we are amarr and we should suck!
Corphus Aliastra	Posted - 2007.08.04 14:29:00 - [40] Originally by: Monique Balthur Originally by: Fswd Energy neuts also benefit from curse's bonus. Originally by: Erlik Draknor fit 4 energy neuts and you are set you guys really dont fly a curse do you ? ;] IF I KILL HIS CAP, WHAT WILL BE MY CAP SOURCE ?? btw nanofits always have a mwd, and mwd needs cap. than u shouldnt nanofit it sunshine. ur are not supposed to use ur mwd and kill the enemies cap at the same time while still deal full damage without any trade off or risk involved. it is unfair. its a one trick pony. its a dumb way of fighting and isnt clever at all. it is simply NOT pvp! pvp means u have to think about ur strategy. pvp means to adapt. and pvp means to not onyl rely on single modules but also to find compromises and learn to handle some of the tradeoffs and disatvantages every ship in eve has (btw even vagabonds dont mwd all the time in combat even if it is their top talent to mwd at insane speeds) im a gallente pilot with max. skills and i never relied on nos dominixes or nos myrmidons because of a reason. this reason is stated in the devblog which u should read again and again until u understand the meaning of pvp balance.
Akashyi Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.04 14:30:00 - [41] Originally by: welsh wizard The other races get 'solopwnmobiles'? Caldari don't. Sorry thats OT :P Try flying the Geddon, its a beast. Yarr!

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