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The Messenger
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:10:00 -
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Nerf the ability ot detect scan probes. It is already easy enough to avoid conflict in eve. Stop making such a low payout activity even harder. Remove scan probes from the overview and save everyone their social life.
No one wants to spend 5 hours trying to find good targets because the only ones they get are newbs who dont use their overview... |

ThorHal
Gallente Corp die auf alles schiesst wo was sie Lust hat
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:14:00 -
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Uhm, no!
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Haffrage
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:19:00 -
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No. -----
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Beef Hardslab
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:20:00 -
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Done. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve:
Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
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The Messenger
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:24:00 -
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Lol No..? Sorry but CCP is already nerfing this games risk little by little. If you are in open space you should be ready for a fight or not be there at all. If you can't hack it go to high sec, its there for the people who are too weak to survive in the real world. |

Haffrage
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: The Messenger If you can't hack it go to high sec, its there for the people who are too weak to survive in the real world.
No, I believe that's why we have the internet in general  -----
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Darc Kaahar
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: The Messenger Lol No..? Sorry but CCP is already nerfing this games risk little by little. If you are in open space you should be ready for a fight or not be there at all. If you can't hack it go to high sec, its there for the people who are too weak to survive in the real world.
You're wrong
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Asgard 2
Gallente Veni Vidi Vici. Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: Asgard 2 on 03/08/2007 01:29:38 I think it is generally a good idea NOT to have scan probes on scanner due to the fact that if you are in a high risk environment... there should in fact exist high risk.
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Im Fugly
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:33:00 -
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Everyone wants the crap they use to be better than it is and the crap people use against them to be weaker than it is. 99% of complaints on this forum are based on this fact.
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The Messenger
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: The Messenger If you can't hack it go to high sec, its there for the people who are too weak to survive in the real world.
No, I believe that's why we have the internet in general 
And these forums exist so people like you can make comments that have little to do with the thread. A moderator recently stated that thread replies such as "yes", "no", or "signed" do not meet the requirements for a reply.
Basically, don't post if you don't have more than "yes or no" to say. |

Darc Kaahar
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: The Messenger
Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: The Messenger If you can't hack it go to high sec, its there for the people who are too weak to survive in the real world.
No, I believe that's why we have the internet in general 
And these forums exist so people like you can make comments that have little to do with the thread. A moderator recently stated that thread replies such as "yes", "no", or "signed" do not meet the requirements for a reply.
Basically, don't post if you don't have more than "yes or no" to say.
ok
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The Messenger
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Im Fugly Everyone wants the crap they use to be better than it is and the crap people use against them to be weaker than it is. 99% of complaints on this forum are based on this fact.
Well if you are going to be in low sec or 0.0 there should be risk involved. Right now unless you are very unlucky, unintelligent, or jumping from gate to gate without a scout you are not vulnerable in 0.0.
This is proven by the fact that macro ratters in battleships can escape death so often. Im sry if I think there should be more risk to reward in this game. Too many people are making a killing while doing nothing to improve the game environment. |

Haffrage
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: The Messenger
Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: The Messenger If you can't hack it go to high sec, its there for the people who are too weak to survive in the real world.
No, I believe that's why we have the internet in general 
And these forums exist so people like you can make comments that have little to do with the thread. A moderator recently stated that thread replies such as "yes", "no", or "signed" do not meet the requirements for a reply.
Basically, don't post if you don't have more than "yes or no" to say.
Ok.
No, because it's a bad idea. If you can readily find them they should be made aware of this, if they know how to look.
Better?  -----
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The Messenger
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: The Messenger
Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: The Messenger If you can't hack it go to high sec, its there for the people who are too weak to survive in the real world.
No, I believe that's why we have the internet in general 
And these forums exist so people like you can make comments that have little to do with the thread. A moderator recently stated that thread replies such as "yes", "no", or "signed" do not meet the requirements for a reply.
Basically, don't post if you don't have more than "yes or no" to say.
Ok.
No, because it's a bad idea. If you can readily find them they should be made aware of this, if they know how to look.
Better? 
Yes that is better becuase now I understand why you think its not a good idea. However, you are basically reinforcing the idea of it being a BAD game mechanic. If it is simply the fact that not knowing how to scan for them makes them balanced than something is wrong.
Once everyone knows about how to scan for probes using scan probes for ship finding will be almost pointless...
And again, based on what you are saying; the only thing that you will kill with scan probes is a very unlucky player or a newb... because everyone else knows how to scan for them.
y |

Darc Kaahar
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: The Messenger This is proven by the fact that macro ratters in battleships can escape death so often. Im sry if I think there should be more risk to reward in this game. Too many people are making a killing while doing nothing to improve the game environment.
I dont see how nerfing the abilty to see scan probes on your scanner will make any difference as most 'marco ratters' will ss and cloak straight away when you enter local.
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Beef Hardslab
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: The Messenger
Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: The Messenger If you can't hack it go to high sec, its there for the people who are too weak to survive in the real world.
No, I believe that's why we have the internet in general 
And these forums exist so people like you can make comments that have little to do with the thread. A moderator recently stated that thread replies such as "yes", "no", or "signed" do not meet the requirements for a reply.
Basically, don't post if you don't have more than "yes or no" to say.
Done.
Scan probes will no longer appear on your overview. You can send me isk if you feel it's necessary. Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve:
Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
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The Messenger
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Beef Hardslab
Originally by: The Messenger
Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: The Messenger If you can't hack it go to high sec, its there for the people who are too weak to survive in the real world.
No, I believe that's why we have the internet in general 
And these forums exist so people like you can make comments that have little to do with the thread. A moderator recently stated that thread replies such as "yes", "no", or "signed" do not meet the requirements for a reply.
Basically, don't post if you don't have more than "yes or no" to say.
Done.
Scan probes will no longer appear on your overview. You can send me isk if you feel it's necessary.
Stop posting statements like that in threads. You seriously need to be moderated for being completely useless to this thread. |

Beef Hardslab
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: The Messenger Remove scan probes from the overview and save everyone their social life.
 Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve:
Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Podding my own alt in a gatecamp while drunk, he was carrying a hauler full of tech II goods, Oops.
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Pudgy McFudge
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:45:00 -
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Edited by: Pudgy McFudge on 03/08/2007 01:47:26
Originally by: The Messenger banana Originally by: Beef Hardslab banana Originally by: The Messenger
Originally by: Haffrage banana banana Originally by: The Messenger If you can't hack it go to high sec, its there for the people who are too weak to survive in the real world.
No, I believe that's why we have the internet in general 
Banana
And these forums exist so people like you can make comments that have little to do with the thread. A moderator recently stated that thread replies such as "yes", "no", or "signed" do not meet the requirements for a reply. banana Basically, don't post if you don't have more than "yes or no" to say.
Done.
Banana
banana
Scan probes will no longer appear on your overview. You can send me isk if you feel it's necessary.
Stop posting statements like that in threads. You seriously need to be moderated for being completely useless to this thread.
Banana
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Haffrage
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: The Messenger
Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: The Messenger
Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: The Messenger If you can't hack it go to high sec, its there for the people who are too weak to survive in the real world.
No, I believe that's why we have the internet in general 
And these forums exist so people like you can make comments that have little to do with the thread. A moderator recently stated that thread replies such as "yes", "no", or "signed" do not meet the requirements for a reply.
Basically, don't post if you don't have more than "yes or no" to say.
Ok.
No, because it's a bad idea. If you can readily find them they should be made aware of this, if they know how to look.
Better? 
Yes that is better becuase now I understand why you think its not a good idea. However, you are basically reinforcing the idea of it being a BAD game mechanic. If it is simply the fact that not knowing how to scan for them makes them balanced than something is wrong.
Once everyone knows about how to scan for probes using scan probes for ship finding will be almost pointless...
And again, based on what you are saying; the only thing that you will kill with scan probes is a very unlucky player or a newb... because everyone else knows how to scan for them.
y
And for the newbies that don't know what warp disruptors are, should we just remove them too so what they don't know can't hurt them? -----
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Captain Carebear
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:49:00 -
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Hai guyz!! i like pizza!
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Darc Kaahar
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.03 01:51:00 -
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Originally by: The Messenger Edited by: The Messenger on 03/08/2007 01:45:17
Originally by: Beef Hardslab
Originally by: The Messenger
Originally by: Haffrage
Originally by: The Messenger If you can't hack it go to high sec, its there for the people who are too weak to survive in the real world.
No, I believe that's why we have the internet in general 
And these forums exist so people like you can make comments that have little to do with the thread. A moderator recently stated that thread replies such as "yes", "no", or "signed" do not meet the requirements for a reply.
Basically, don't post if you don't have more than "yes or no" to say.
Done.
Scan probes will no longer appear on your overview. You can send me isk if you feel it's necessary.
Stop posting statements like that in threads. You seriously need to be moderated for being completely useless to this thread.
To the guy who stated that nerfing scan probes will not help against macro ratting, I do agree however that was just a reference to the fact that there is little risk in 0.0 and low sec atm.
The tactics macro ratters use have to be fixed too however for now I think scan probes will help boost pvp's appeal. Right now it is often very time consuming and if it isn't there is little reward.
Ya pvp shouldn't be just for isk as it is a fun activity, however I don't think it should be a complete waste of time on many occasions.
I don't know, I always assume that there is a prober in local anyway. I can get where you're coming from but I really don't see it making any difference. If people are too stupid to be hopping safes then they will die, if not they won't. I really don't see this boosting pvp's appeal more.
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Jacob Castillo
Caldari Copperhead Inc. Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.03 02:22:00 -
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Anyone who seriously doesn't want to be caught will just be hopping between safes constantly if you remove the ability to detect probes. It changes nothing.
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.03 02:23:00 -
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ability to detect stupid threads, plz buff
Real men fly Pink.
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Uhr Zylex
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Posted - 2007.08.03 03:39:00 -
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I totally agree with the OP, flying around for hours trying to find someone to kill sucks.
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Castra Noor
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Posted - 2007.08.03 04:28:00 -
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No thanks. Bad proposal, wrong forum. You almost won the "worst proposal of the day" award.
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Orion Eridanus
Dark Nova Crisis
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Posted - 2007.08.03 06:03:00 -
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If probes are removed from scan then the probing ship should not be able to cloak while the probe is deployed. Unable to unanchor batteries? Dont dispair, it's not a bug its a feature |

Baldigan Joackim
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.08.03 06:27:00 -
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scan out of the scanner range ... problem solved !
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slothe
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.08.03 07:24:00 -
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no sorry
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Steel Tigeress
Gallente Silver Snake Enterprise Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.08.03 07:41:00 -
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Edited by: Steel Tigeress on 03/08/2007 07:41:31
Originally by: The Messenger Well if you are going to be in low sec or 0.0 there should be risk involved.
So what your saying is, you want cloaking nerfed.... I agree
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