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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:52:00 -
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The Database failed over, which caused the problems with Tranquility and myeve.
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Steph Wing
Gallente The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Steph Wing on 03/08/2007 15:52:29 Hamster wheel came loose again, huh?
(also first post wewt)
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Nazdarovie
Minmatar Macabre Votum INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:52:00 -
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Edited by: Nazdarovie on 03/08/2007 15:53:40
Seems to be doing that a lot :-(
Damn u if it wasnt for me having to log in on forums id have gotten away with it ;p
\o/ 2nd
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Illistar DeathWing
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:52:00 -
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Any estimates on when it will be fixed?
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Lardarz B'stard
Amarr Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:53:00 -
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Thats a surprisingly technical and mindbogglingly complicated explanation.
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JamesTalon
Caldari Electric Fury Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:53:00 -
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Who let Ovuer into the server room again? "Return with your shield, or on it." |

Reverend Revelator
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:53:00 -
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OH NOES, IT'S DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!1111
-- Dead People Laugh At The Murder Of Love -- |

Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:53:00 -
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Oh the database. That never happens.  ---
Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Illistar DeathWing Any estimates on when it will be fixed?
It should be fixed at about 16.00 GMT, if everything goes as it should.
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K'reemy G'udness
Delicious
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:54:00 -
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Hey maybe you guys should consider using a big boys DBMS, one that can handle millions of transactions per minute.
Oracle, Sysbase, hell maybe even my favorite Postgres?
Just a thought. Won't somebody please think of the hamsters?
Sincerely, K'reemy ---
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Illistar DeathWing
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Reverend Revelator OH NOES, IT'S DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!1111
Can it be called deja vu if it happens twice a week?
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr Templars of Space
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:54:00 -
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Database used to be the most stable thing bolted to EVE cluster, why have you made Valar and co. sad? [ insert fancy sig here ]
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:54:00 -
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OH NOES! ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION | Forum Whiners - Unite! |

Tebis
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:54:00 -
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database failed? but your subscriptions are increasing.. there can be no problems!
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:54:00 -
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Isn't it supposed to fail over to something, like a backup server? Or is that feature not supported by your version of MS SQL? ;-P
this is a free post provided to you by a member of the EVE community.
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Nazdarovie
Minmatar Macabre Votum INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:55:00 -
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Edited by: Nazdarovie on 03/08/2007 15:54:51
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Illistar DeathWing Any estimates on when it will be fixed?
It should be fixed at about 16.00 GMT, if everything goes as it should.
16:00 GMT on which day ? ;p
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AMD383
The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:55:00 -
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for waiting Get a new hamster in the SQL fast !!!!!
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Lowanaera
Amarr Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:55:00 -
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I thought you had an extended downtime yesterday to upgrade and fix the database? 
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K'reemy G'udness
Delicious
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lowanaera I thought you had an extended downtime yesterday to upgrade and fix the database? 
Lol, noob. 
Sincerely, K'reemy ---
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U'puauht
Minmatar Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Illistar DeathWing
Originally by: Reverend Revelator OH NOES, IT'S DEJA VU ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!1111
Can it be called deja vu if it happens twice a week?
Sure it can ... just because you see it 3 times a week doesn't make it less of a dTja vu - it means "already seen" or "seen before" after all.  _____
Wood-legged, eye-patched, parrot-on-the-shoulder Priest of The Church |

Cyberneti
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Cyberneti on 03/08/2007 15:56:36
Originally by: Lowanaera I thought you had an extended downtime yesterday to upgrade and fix the database? 
That was put of another week, cant get the kit through customes :)
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alexis steele
Minmatar Black Reign
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:56:00 -
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grumble grumble, tick tick, winge winge, give me money back!
do you guys remember the good old days when at things like server upgrades and patches ccp would add mabey a day or something like that to everyone account.
what ever happened to customer service in eve? anybody else think mabey ccp have got a bit big for there own boots? and have forgoten the player base that have kept them going? i mean they must collect some where in the region of ú1.7mil per month in account fees.
is it to much to ask that for this they keep the servers up and running? and that figure must be conservate lets not forget eve magazine, eve the card game, eve the store (the final cash in)
does anybody else just feel sickened by this? i love this game and have played since just after beta i just wish it could try and stay stable for a bit.
my answer to the problem is to start up a second server and ask for people to migrate there. save some of the load problems hopefully, just my 2 cents
grumble grumble, tick tick , winge winge a plan is just a list of things that dont happen!
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Gusy
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: AMD383 for waiting Get a new hamster in the SQL fast !!!!!
Or this perhaps
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Aussie Storm
Amarr Viziam
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:56:00 -
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STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
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ZeusCommander
Amarr Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:57:00 -
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You should really feed the hampsters fresh food...The old stuff just aint doing the job :(
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Ed Anger
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:57:00 -
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da serva poked me in da eye, i want restitution
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Aussie Storm STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
How does the content team fix stuff again?  ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION | Forum Whiners - Unite! |

Rosur
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:57:00 -
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5mins till start up hopefully 
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IHaveTenToes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Hey maybe you guys should consider using a big boys DBMS, one that can handle millions of transactions per minute.
Oracle, Sysbase, hell maybe even my favorite Postgres?
Just a thought. Won't somebody please think of the hamsters?
I think PERL would do better then what theyve got going tbfh.
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Zvim
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:58:00 -
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Do timed based missions fail when server crashes?
Sorry for the noob question, just started a trial account yesterday. :P
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Graph ro
Aquilae Stellaris Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:58:00 -
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Is a 10 minute rollback included so you won't get as many losses petitioned ?
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:58:00 -
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Doubt it. I think he meant 16:00 next year ----------
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Kappas.
Galaxy Punks O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Aussie Storm STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
Maybe you might have read about how they are upgrading their database hardware and software? It's been delayed a week though.
TBH though, the amount of crashes we've had over the past few weeks has been shocking.
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U'puauht
Minmatar Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: U''puauht on 03/08/2007 15:59:47
Originally by: Zvim Do timed based missions fail when server crashes?
Sorry for the noob question, just started a trial account yesterday. :P
Most likely all spawns will be fresh upon server restart. At least that's how it used to be with DT back when I was still doing missions.
Edit: realized I was missing your point .. but no idea on that to be honest. _____
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area51
Gallente Pilipino Corp Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Aussie Storm STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
QFT!
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Huibu Gespenst
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:59:00 -
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Hooray... 16:05. I luv that 15 min. increase after every 15 min. Gimme some more... i want the 16:25 NOW!
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K'reemy G'udness
Delicious
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Posted - 2007.08.03 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Hey maybe you guys should consider using a big boys DBMS, one that can handle millions of transactions per minute.
Oracle, Sysbase, hell maybe even my favorite Postgres?
Just a thought. Won't somebody please think of the hamsters?
I think PERL would do better then what theyve got going tbfh.
PERL is a database? I thought it was a really ugly scripting language.
Sincerely, K'reemy ---
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Dr Stone
Caldari R.O.N.E
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:00:00 -
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Wait, somethings wrong. GM's normal answer should be: There is nothing wrong with the servers! The servers are fine!
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: area51
Originally by: Aussie Storm STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
QFT!
Double QFT! ----------
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Kichaus Crue
Minmatar KickAssCrew
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Aussie Storm STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
How does the content team fix stuff again? 
Are you on the payroll of CCP are you?...no....then why exactly are you defending the constant crashes etc?
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Nadjer
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:00:00 -
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Why have a startup timer that fails 3 times in a row before actual startup. Why don't you get the server up and running then stick a login timer up.
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Filthy Pierre
Gallente Laughing Fox Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: Filthy Pierre on 03/08/2007 16:03:22 I dunno..... somebody told me they were switching from hamsters to gerbils....
Hope that database has good journaling capabilities.
Bet I've lost a couple of hours online work now.
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Huibu Gespenst
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: area51
Originally by: Aussie Storm STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
QFT!
Double QFT!
Tripple QFT!!
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IHaveTenToes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Zvim Do timed based missions fail when server crashes?
Sorry for the noob question, just started a trial account yesterday. :P
If its a kill mission and you have not completed the objective, then it respawns at downtime. if you missed completing it or missed the time bonus, petition it under agent missions in progress and you should be able to complete it.
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr Templars of Space
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Aussie Storm STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
How does the content team fix stuff again? 
Fire 50 content producers, hire 50, durr, coders (and a few project managers) and make them fix things. Should work imo. [ insert fancy sig here ]
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Stone Wait, somethings wrong. GM's normal answer should be: There is nothing wrong with the servers! The servers are fine!
Its because they tripped over on the TQ power cable and the hamster running the backup generator died. ----------
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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:01:00 -
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First startup failed, all nodes died, we're going for a second startup.
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IHaveTenToes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Huibu Gespenst
Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: area51
Originally by: Aussie Storm STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
QFT!
Double QFT!
Tripple QFT!!
Walking in stations? lets try and fly in space first.
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Thommy
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:01:00 -
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insert one of the following replies: - OMG my skills! please ccp skillquery - OMG another crash thats it! im canceling all my accounts, make my corp and alliance cancel theirs too! - WTF no my jetcan with all my ore! CCP it must survive - crashes FTL now i lost my drones / fighters! - <bleep> this <bleep> servers now our <bleep> <bleep> <bleep> target got away! CCP <bleep> fix it! - the <bleep> this <bleep> its just <bleep> <bleep> <bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep> (sound of dying heart beat) - OMG now the hauler spawn / faction spawn / officer got away - OMG i just wanted to loot <insert very nice item here> it better be in my hold! OMG OMG OMG - CCP no matter who, no matter what get EVERYONE yes also graphics people and people who cant program on fixing these issues NOW - NOOOOO now i lost my ship!
### After 856176 reboot / crash / etc attempts later ###
Insert any response below - sql <insert random process> failed - nodes got stuck and died causing server fail - something happened (we just dont know what exactly) - we have a breaktrough! server will be back at 15:50 err no maybe 16:00 or maybe make that 16:30 hmm no never mind it will be back tomorrow after 12:00 - contract <random doohicky> caused an overload in the warp core, we had to take servers out of warp to attempt an emergency landing - process a disrupted process b, which then collapsed process c <the whole alphabet later> and therefore we had this problem
looks like it will be bolded reply then 
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Enech Felbar
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:02:00 -
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Starting to get annoyed now.
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Huibu Gespenst
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Originally by: Huibu Gespenst
Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: area51
Originally by: Aussie Storm STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
QFT!
Double QFT!
Tripple QFT!!
Walking in stations? lets try and fly in space first.
lol
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Originally by: Huibu Gespenst
Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: area51
Originally by: Aussie Storm STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
QFT!
Double QFT!
Tripple QFT!!
Walking in stations? lets try and fly in space first.
ROFLWTF QFT!!!111oneone11! ----------
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Zepher8062
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:03:00 -
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Quick everyone! The hampsters are rebelling! TO ARMS!
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IHaveTenToes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: K'reemy G'udness
Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Hey maybe you guys should consider using a big boys DBMS, one that can handle millions of transactions per minute.
Oracle, Sysbase, hell maybe even my favorite Postgres?
Just a thought. Won't somebody please think of the hamsters?
I think PERL would do better then what theyve got going tbfh.
PERL is a database? I thought it was a really ugly scripting language.
Sad thing is, you are right. ive seen it [Insert preferred racial slur here]-rigged to do database junk.
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Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:04:00 -
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rev2 is gunning for the topspot for build instability.. it has exodus in its sights!
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Steph Wing
Gallente The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kichaus Crue Are you on the payroll of CCP are you?...no....then why exactly are you defending the constant crashes etc?
And that, boys and girls, is what's known as a "Straw Man".
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness
Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Hey maybe you guys should consider using a big boys DBMS, one that can handle millions of transactions per minute.
Oracle, Sysbase, hell maybe even my favorite Postgres?
Just a thought. Won't somebody please think of the hamsters?
I think PERL would do better then what theyve got going tbfh.
PERL is a database? I thought it was a really ugly scripting language.
Sad thing is, you are right. ive seen it [Insert preferred racial slur here]-rigged to do database junk.
But WHY? Who would want to do that?!  ----------
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Tihor AtirIlhok
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Illistar DeathWing Any estimates on when it will be fixed?
It should be fixed at about 16.00 GMT, if everything goes as it should.
I take it things didnt go as they should?
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Viktor Malakai
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:04:00 -
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maybe try something other than turning it off and on, this is the 3rd sever start up attempt ive seen
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Widitti
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:04:00 -
[60]
I now play OO (Outage Online) , not what i signed for ...
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TRIPPLE SIX
Minmatar Cskillzone DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:04:00 -
[61]
so ccp like to remove anything that might put off new players???? sounds like a standover tacitc to me, if this a game i pay for, i expect to be able to comlain as much as i like, and if so many people stoped sticking up for ccp like a bunch of carebeers, and complained like they should, then they might do somthing about it, but all you brown tounges just make it all right for them to provide you with all the latest xxxx ups that they come up with, insted of fixing the problems that allready exist
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Reverend Revelator
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zvim Do timed based missions fail when server crashes?
Sorry for the noob question, just started a trial account yesterday. :P
With this community I doubt "sorry" is gonna cut it, but hey it was worth the shot I guess, and being new you couldn't know how rabid the ppl here are, so in MY eyes thats ok.
And from the top of my head, I think missions generally last 24 hours, with storylines lasting 7 days. But I could be wrong, and if so, or even if I'm right, SOMEONE will flame the everlasting F*** out of me (and you!) for it.
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Gregoriuses
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:05:00 -
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Edited by: Gregoriuses on 03/08/2007 16:07:42 O/
I have sugesstion for ccp , hey, why u don't close EVE for about 3 days...and fix all problems which are happening and add new patches...and test it. But really, i am serious. Psyhical effect on players like this is really bad. I know at least 6 people stop playing cose of that. It will not hurt to be without eve 3 days, but it hurts to get poded, lost ship in pvpv,mission ets...cose of lag and stuf.
Regards, Greg
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EliteSlave
Minmatar Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:05:00 -
[64]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler First startup failed, all nodes died, we're going for a second startup.
Wrangler, Any particular chance on me getting my fighters back?
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Mind's Desire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:05:00 -
[65]
Looks like this one will fail too, I don't see the usual startup time in the server status area.
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alexis steele
Minmatar Black Reign
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:05:00 -
[66]
starting to get annoyed?
you have got to be joking! im well past that now.
please fix the servers and stop adding content! just fix what u got please. a plan is just a list of things that dont happen!
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Lady Caeser
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:05:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Gregoriuses O/
I have sugesstion for ccp , hey, why u don't close EVE for about 3 days...and fix all problems which are happening and add new patches...and test it. But really, i am serrius. Psyhical effect on players like this is really bad. I know at least 6 people stop playing cose of that. It will not hurt to be without eve 3 days, but it hurts to get poded, lost ship in pvpv,mission ets...cose of lag and stuf.
Regards, Greg
cry more
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Calvin Firenze
Minmatar The Lunar Bin
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:05:00 -
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The benefit to a server crash is that we get to read the funny whines. And those making fun of the ZOMG IM GONNA CANCEL MY ACCOUNT whines. All in all, its really rather entertaining. Then again, I have a weird sense of humor. this is not a signature, whatever anyone has told you is false. look away |

K'reemy G'udness
Delicious
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:05:00 -
[69]
Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness
Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Hey maybe you guys should consider using a big boys DBMS, one that can handle millions of transactions per minute.
Oracle, Sysbase, hell maybe even my favorite Postgres?
Just a thought. Won't somebody please think of the hamsters?
I think PERL would do better then what theyve got going tbfh.
PERL is a database? I thought it was a really ugly scripting language.
Sad thing is, you are right. ive seen it [Insert preferred racial slur here]-rigged to do database junk.
Well, back in the day, I used to write my own databases using MSBasic and structured files/indexes. Worked great and fit on a floppy.
Ah, 1989, you were awesome and terrible.
But seriously, Perl is for knuckledragging mouthbreathing soapdodgers. Let's not mention it anymore, k?
Sincerely, K'reemy ---
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Lady Caeser
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:06:00 -
[70]
Originally by: EliteSlave
Originally by: CCP Wrangler First startup failed, all nodes died, we're going for a second startup.
Wrangler, Any particular chance on me getting my fighters back?
petition option is ingame
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Huibu Gespenst
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:06:00 -
[71]
Ah... i bet a vodka with redbull that the timer will be increased at 16:05 to 16:25. Who bets more?
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Thufir Hawats
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:06:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Aussie Storm STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
How does the content team fix stuff again? 
By training them to do it?
Originally by: Matthew People are very fond of saying that Eve is not WoW. Well, Eve is not quake either.
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:06:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Tihor AtirIlhok
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Illistar DeathWing Any estimates on when it will be fixed?
It should be fixed at about 16.00 GMT, if everything goes as it should.
I take it things didnt go as they should?
He meant 16:00 next year. Hope you were training a rank 16 skill to level 5! :P ----------
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:06:00 -
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These server crashes, sometimes even several times a day, are slowly becomming very annoying.
My advice: go offline for 1-2 days, take your time and fix everything properly, then go online again. This would be much better than these crashes every day.
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Roast Bifcurtains
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:06:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Lady Caeser
Originally by: Gregoriuses
But really, i am serrius.
cry more
LOL @ SERRIUS. I AM SERRIUS!
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Rastigan
Caldari Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:06:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Aussie Storm STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
How does the content team fix stuff again? 
In general adding new content adds more things that can and will get broken.
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Calvin Firenze
Minmatar The Lunar Bin
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:07:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Huibu Gespenst Ah... i bet a vodka with redbull that the timer will be increased at 16:05 to 16:25. Who bets more?
I'll see your vodka and raise you a jack daniels.

this is not a signature, whatever anyone has told you is false. look away |

Socar Jorrell
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:07:00 -
[78]
why is it always crashing when i have a skill completing ,
UP down UP down where have i seen this before.
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Sleepkevert
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:07:00 -
[79]
Time for a little poll under the EVE players
Guess what crashed the server: 1.Mysql server crashed again 2.[rand_alliance] Deployed lag tactics 3.Hamsters ran out of food 4.Someone tripped over the powercord of TQ 5.DEV H4X!!11!1! 6.Eris did it by mining!
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Kichaus Crue
Minmatar KickAssCrew
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:08:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Aussie Storm STOP adding new content and FIX what you already have 
Just to make sure we are clear.....
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Talos Vaden
Caldari Imperial Space Combat Corps
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:08:00 -
[81]
And the revised ETA passes again......
What a surprise! 
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Huibu Gespenst
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:08:00 -
[82]
comeon... its 16:05 allready. Gimme the 16:25!!!! NOW!!!111one
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IHaveTenToes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:09:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Tihor AtirIlhok
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Illistar DeathWing Any estimates on when it will be fixed?
It should be fixed at about 16.00 GMT, if everything goes as it should.
I take it things didnt go as they should?
Do they ever?
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Fannatik
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:09:00 -
[84]
Ever get the feeling your paying for downtime rather than the ability to play the game? IMO maybe eve should go back to beta, has more downtime than most beta mmo's out there.
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TRIPPLE SIX
Minmatar Cskillzone DAMAGE INC...
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:10:00 -
[85]
yes, ccp, try fixing the xxxxxx you have before adding crap that just makes it worse???? why is it i can see this, but you dont???? i stoped playing bf2 because EA just kept making it worse with evey patch, seems to me your taking a leson from them, or at least giving them jobs, that will end the same way all EA games do, eveyone leaving to play somthing that runs when it should, and not worse evey time you "make it better"
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Chamael Arem
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:10:00 -
[86]
oooo. burned by a forum admin... ;P
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Inco Gnito
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:10:00 -
[87]
Maybe TQ has been feeling a little horny of late ..
Up, Down, Up, Down, Up, Down, Up 
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:10:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Talos Vaden And the revised ETA passes again......
What a surprise! 
if only we could see what is going on at CCP:
'OK, does anyone have any idea how to fix this'? 'Maybe we should reboot it' 'We did that 5 times already' 'Lets just keep trying and posting up ETAs for uptime that we have no chance of meeting' ----------
CONCORD Notice: Don't drink and fly. Drunken jumping can result in loss of ship through "navigational error". |

Pho3niX'ESP
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:11:00 -
[89]
The ship manufacturers will benefit from those database fails...
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Lord Merdin
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:11:00 -
[90]
I have played other MMORPG's and I am aware none are without server issues.. I played WoW for 2 years and Blizzard had and still has a number of server issues which is one of the main reasons I canceled my subscription with them. But to be honest in most cases the server issues are stabilized by the hosting company in time.. Failing to do so usually results in the loss of subscriptions... EVE isn't a brand new MMORPG its been out for a number years. As a new subscriber regardless of the impressive content and amazing diversity in game play. I am still rather angered by continual lag and server issues... If the current databasing method is that unstable perhaps it is time that CCP looked into a different approach to the databasing in order to solve the instability issues.
My 2 cents,
Lord Merdin
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Scilent Enigma
Minmatar Gerek Business Consortium
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:11:00 -
[91]
Hope you can get it back up soon.
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IHaveTenToes
ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:11:00 -
[92]
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness
Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness
Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Hey maybe you guys should consider using a big boys DBMS, one that can handle millions of transactions per minute.
Oracle, Sysbase, hell maybe even my favorite Postgres?
Just a thought. Won't somebody please think of the hamsters?
I think PERL would do better then what theyve got going tbfh.
PERL is a database? I thought it was a really ugly scripting language.
Sad thing is, you are right. ive seen it [Insert preferred racial slur here]-rigged to do database junk.
Well, back in the day, I used to write my own databases using MSBasic and structured files/indexes. Worked great and fit on a floppy.
Ah, 1989, you were awesome and terrible.
But seriously, Perl is for knuckledragging mouthbreathing soapdodgers. Let's not mention it anymore, k?
ahhh 1989... too bad i dont remember much since i was 1 year old.
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Huibu Gespenst
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:12:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Calvin Firenze
Originally by: Huibu Gespenst Ah... i bet a vodka with redbull that the timer will be increased at 16:05 to 16:25. Who bets more?
I'll see your vodka and raise you a jack daniels.

Hehe... but remember:
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Dionisius
Gallente LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:12:00 -
[94]
Ok who forgot to fill up the gas tank for the servers again... _______________________
Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39 in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire.
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Dreadmuppet Four
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:13:00 -
[95]
If rebooting it for the tenth time doesn't work try pulling the plug out of the wall, waiting 30 seconds then giving it a kick before plugging it back in, used to work on my Betamax video recorder
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:13:00 -
[96]
TQ is back up!
Now wait for the mass lag caused by everyone logging in!!  ----------
CONCORD Notice: Don't drink and fly. Drunken jumping can result in loss of ship through "navigational error". |

Katsumushi
Gallente Aterizon Capital
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:15:00 -
[97]
Well at least it's up now, although it's going to go at snail pace for a few minutes. _____________________ Lose To be unable to find: mislay, misplace.
Loose Not fastened, restrained, or contained.
Learn things. |

Kittamaru
Gallente TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:15:00 -
[98]
Oh goddamn guys, give them a break. I'd like to see any of YOU do any better...
Server is ending it's startup sequence now... already 83 people in que...
This is why startup fails... everyone hits connect at the same goddamned time! GIVE IT A MOMENT! The server needs a chance to set everything up... this is like trying to start HalfLife 2 before Windows has loaded
Server is online and apparently stable, I am #1 in que to connect.
10 minutes late... not bad :)
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Aragonis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:15:00 -
[99]
Is this connected to a rather strange bug I got yesterday where I was flying around with the warp overlay displaying? I mean, it was really trippy, but kinda annoying. Imagine looking up to see that you're flying sideways down a warp tunnel. Er, wtf?
Anyway, your SQL servers should be running as a cluster. Fallback for the win! --- http://www.ninjacodingmonkey.co.uk/ |

Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:16:00 -
[100]
Yeah, I am sitting here looking at entering game... ----------
CONCORD Notice: Don't drink and fly. Drunken jumping can result in loss of ship through "navigational error". |

Calvin Firenze
Minmatar The Lunar Bin
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:16:00 -
[101]
I have proudly added absolutely nothing constructive to this thread. I should have been in bed a long time ago but **** it its friday and I don't have to work tonight \o/
My eve-mon balloon just told me I can log on, but I think I'll have a smoke, a cup of coffee, and watch a movie first. 20k people logging in at once makes the server go OH ******* CHRIST and I'd rather not be part of the problem. Though of course none of you will read this since the server is back up. I love the forums, if I'm in a bad mood and need a laugh, I just pick a random thread and I'm guaranteed to find something funny, be it whines or flames. this is not a signature, whatever anyone has told you is false. look away |

SoldierOfJustice
Infortunatus Eventus Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:16:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Chamael Arem oooo. burned by a forum admin... ;P
Yea, they love to use what ever little power they have.
Dont worry guys, everything will be same as it always been. CCP fixes nothing other than help bob get more power cause obviously bob aint got balls to fight alone and CCP got turned into bob's pets it may seem ^^.
Same stupid server issue been messing up the server for so many times now and nothing been done. Its about time to wake up CCP.
Oh, they will delete this thread once the server is up cause they think they have solved the problems and this thread is only used for "anger management". "Angry? here is a thread where you can say all you want and we'll delete it later on" Thats a part of CCP's crowd control procedures ^^.
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PanzerGrenadier
Caldari Target Practice Inc. Frontline.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:17:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Lord Merdin I have played other MMORPG's and I am aware none are without server issues.. I played WoW for 2 years and Blizzard had and still has a number of server issues which is one of the main reasons I canceled my subscription with them. But to be honest in most cases the server issues are stabilized by the hosting company in time.. Failing to do so usually results in the loss of subscriptions... EVE isn't a brand new MMORPG its been out for a number years. As a new subscriber regardless of the impressive content and amazing diversity in game play. I am still rather angered by continual lag and server issues... If the current databasing method is that unstable perhaps it is time that CCP looked into a different approach to the databasing in order to solve the instability issues.
My 2 cents,
Lord Merdin
But you forget, everything is fine because more people are subscribing every month! _________________________________________________________
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ctx2007
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:18:00 -
[104]
its started but not sure if its working yet. 
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Jin Beam
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:18:00 -
[105]
I am new to eve, The Lag is the worst problem for me. As far as disconnects, they may be frustrating but my main concern is being disconnected in battle and losing a ship.
my question is, if in battle when server disconnects, will my ship be damaged or does all stop in eve even battle
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:18:00 -
[106]
Quick, everyone jump into your faction fitted Ravens as soon as the server is up, and do a mission. What could go wrong? ---
Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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DJ SARGE
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:19:00 -
[107]
finally .. a day off and time to go mine a belt .. OMGWTFPWNAGEMEGAUBERCRASH .. eeeeh .. crud
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Kittamaru
Gallente TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:19:00 -
[108]
Tis up and running fine :)
BTW- first online :D Woohoo!
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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:20:00 -
[109]
Ok, server is up, and we're looking into what happened.
Wrangler Community Manager EVE Online
Contact Support - Contact Moderators - Report Bug - Submit News Leads - Knowledge Base Player Guide - Policies - Join ISD - Fan Submissions - DevFinder LiteÖ |
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Ed Anger
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:21:00 -
[110]
I can log in but I have no character... now what?
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Kittamaru
Gallente TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:22:00 -
[111]
Thanks Wrangler. Tell your mates ya'll are doing a bang up job, don't give a **** what anyone else says. They don't understand this sort of stuff like you and I do :)
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Xeron Silverblade
Esthar Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:24:00 -
[112]
Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Walking in stations? lets try and fly in space first.

well... it's about time that hardware passes the customs... some crashes are unevitable.. but it's getting far too frequent atm... -- (This space intentionally left blank for now) |

Kittamaru
Gallente TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:24:00 -
[113]
When you login, it will be SLOW. Take it easy and be patient... go make a sammich or something. Same with entering game. It'll take about 2 minutes.
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Mind's Desire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:24:00 -
[114]
\o/ my can survived.
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jamesw
Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:24:00 -
[115]
This server crash proudly brought to you by UK Customs!
a.k.a. Roll on the new Yaaarrrdware!
--
Latest Vid: Domination! |

Tihor AtirIlhok
The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:26:00 -
[116]
All i'm getting now is Charecter Selection....the grey box...and then.....
Failed
Then back to charecter selection:(
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Nath Axe
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:27:00 -
[117]
well firing on all cylinders not, some on put melasses in your gas, still stuck in character load
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SoldierOfJustice
Infortunatus Eventus Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:27:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Kittamaru Thanks Wrangler. Tell your mates ya'll are doing a bang up job, don't give a **** what anyone else says. They don't understand this sort of stuff like you and I do :)
Dont see how you could be special and one of a kind. There are many eve players who do write programs/applications that work with some kind of database. Doesnt matter what the size of your software is, the same rules always apply when debugging and solving problems. In all cases when the programmers get as much ressources as CCP get you'd expect them to solve the problem in all this long time that problem existed. But problem isnt solved so something is wrong. Either they arent qualified or they arent working on it.
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Doctor Fruitloop
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:28:00 -
[119]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Ok, server is up, and we're looking into what happened.
Dont worry yourself Wrangler - as long as advertising continues that TQ can support "massive fleet battles" and new subscibers continue to sighn up it realy dosent matter.
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Jin Beam
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:28:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Kittamaru Thanks Wrangler. Tell your mates ya'll are doing a bang up job, don't give a **** what anyone else says. They don't understand this sort of stuff like you and I do :)
I understand what your trying to say, but they need to know our concerns. I have a fairly new pc and a great connection and i have LAAAAG. They may have a great game but their server hardware needs fixed, hopefully this upgrade their announcing will fix it they need to give a **** what people say, it helps them know whats what.
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Ten GuMarr
Amarr I.Z.U Syndicate E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:29:00 -
[121]
I can now get back in but everything is so slow. Just sold some ore (About 500k worth) but money & transaction not showing up in wallet.
Market loading takes about 30 seconds.
I am gonna log out again and leave it for a bit. I am a bit worried I may have just lost half a million into the dodgy database ether. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ -[sig]- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Now you see me . . . Soon you won't. |

ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:29:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Tihor AtirIlhok All i'm getting now is Charecter Selection....the grey box...and then.....
Failed
Then back to charecter selection:(
ditto i think some of the nodes didn't come up properly Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
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Xeron Silverblade
Esthar Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:29:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Tihor AtirIlhok All i'm getting now is Charecter Selection....the grey box...and then.....
Failed
Then back to charecter selection:(
try the "enter game" button.. it will tell you that you system is not loaded yet. have the same here. alt is in, main stuck at char selection. will take some time -- (This space intentionally left blank for now) |

Zepher8062
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:29:00 -
[124]
OHhhhh BOY! The server is going down again...from the massive logins.... Take it easy folks...
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R0ger Wilco
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:30:00 -
[125]
Something is still going very wrong ...
Are u guys using the same cpu as the ingame drones?
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Mastin Dragonfly
Absolutely No Return The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:30:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Tihor AtirIlhok All i'm getting now is Charecter Selection....the grey box...and then.....
Failed
Then back to charecter selection:(
Same 
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K'reemy G'udness
Delicious
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:30:00 -
[127]
Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness
Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness
Originally by: IHaveTenToes
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Hey maybe you guys should consider using a big boys DBMS, one that can handle millions of transactions per minute.
Oracle, Sysbase, hell maybe even my favorite Postgres?
Just a thought. Won't somebody please think of the hamsters?
I think PERL would do better then what theyve got going tbfh.
PERL is a database? I thought it was a really ugly scripting language.
Sad thing is, you are right. ive seen it [Insert preferred racial slur here]-rigged to do database junk.
Well, back in the day, I used to write my own databases using MSBasic and structured files/indexes. Worked great and fit on a floppy.
Ah, 1989, you were awesome and terrible.
But seriously, Perl is for knuckledragging mouthbreathing soapdodgers. Let's not mention it anymore, k?
ahhh 1989... too bad i dont remember much since i was 1 year old.
LOL. Noob.
Nah, that's ok. I was 19 and my wife was 11 . But don't get any funny ideas, we didn't meet until 2003.
Sincerely, K'reemy ---
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Moggy TheCat
Arte et Labore
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:30:00 -
[128]
Edited by: Moggy TheCat on 03/08/2007 16:32:11 the client say Status OK 11600 player
but i get stucked at the character selection, tried already restart but ending in the Char selction ( highsec located )
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Lady Natacha
Minmatar Water and Power
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:31:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Quick, everyone jump into your faction fitted Ravens as soon as the server is up, and do a mission. What could go wrong?
Sadly, there will probably be at least 50 such reimbursement petitions filed today.
250M implant may disappear: Linkage
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:31:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly
Originally by: Tihor AtirIlhok All i'm getting now is Charecter Selection....the grey box...and then.....
Failed
Then back to charecter selection:(
Same 
Me too on both main and alts accts. |

Stoffl
Free Mercenaries Union FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:32:00 -
[131]
If your stuck on logon screen because system isn't loaded..get someone allready online to jump into system from outside.
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Kittamaru
Gallente TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:33:00 -
[132]
YOu guys have to understand- these servers are handling a pretty decent amount of data. Not only that, but, if I'm not mistaken, there is an AI for every NPC you encounter (at least in space)... even if it is a stupid one :P Those are more calculations done server side. Add into that that EvE is the largest single-server MMORPG (I, at least, have not found one bigger) and you have a venue for problems. I'm not saying ya'll aren't as smart as the next one (I'm only 19 after all and am still in uni for EECT) but you have to be PATIENT. I'm sure it'll get fixed when it can... they can't just put in an order and double their servers. It'd be nice, but that's a LOT of money.
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Teemu Rihianen
Gallente the Galactic Defence Initiative
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:33:00 -
[133]
it's gonna blow!
I'm getting an endless number of systems that are going offline. QUICK! Into your T2 ships and do a mission! You can do it! - - -
Join +the Galactic Defence Initiative½ today! |

Xeron Silverblade
Esthar Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:33:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Shameless Avenger
Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly
Originally by: Tihor AtirIlhok All i'm getting now is Charecter Selection....the grey box...and then.....
Failed
Then back to charecter selection:(
Same 
Me too on both main and alts accts.
read my reply above. just got in btw... -- (This space intentionally left blank for now) |

Michayel Lyon
The Corporation Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:33:00 -
[135]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Ok, server is up, and we're looking into what happened.
My guess is MS SQL.
--- Lasiverin Dark > Is everyone here allied? Red Knight > we are allied by our zombie like ability to ***** missions
GM Xamother: "Beeing online is not considered harassment or exploit." |

Filthy Pierre
Gallente Laughing Fox Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:34:00 -
[136]
Now I'm starting to get p*ssed off.
I can get no further than the "Entering game as...." bar and it keeps dumping me back into the character selection screen eventually.
I'm already an hour late for going out due to this BS and I have to stick around to salvage whatever is left because I can't rely on CCP to say anything other than "tough *****" if I petition for what I lose due to unreliable service....
Gaaah!
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Muscaat
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:34:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Lord Merdin If the current databasing method is that unstable perhaps it is time that CCP looked into a different approach to the databasing in order to solve the instability issues.
Well, they are planning to completely replace all their database hardware as soon as it passes through Customs...
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Forked Camel
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:36:00 -
[138]
All you need is in this thread .. it lasts for 120 + pages :P
Clicky for the fun!
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ctx2007
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:36:00 -
[139]
locks of lockdowns and lag
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DerArt1st
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:36:00 -
[140]
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Ok, server is up, and we're looking into what happened.
Does that mean u dont have a clue whats going on?
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Moggy TheCat
Arte et Labore
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:37:00 -
[141]
finally, im on ! yeah
it would be great to have a webbased skill switch possibility
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Doctor Fruitloop
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:37:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Kittamaru YOu guys have to understand- these servers are handling a pretty decent amount of data. Not only that, but, if I'm not mistaken, there is an AI for every NPC you encounter (at least in space)... even if it is a stupid one :P Those are more calculations done server side. Add into that that EvE is the largest single-server MMORPG (I, at least, have not found one bigger) and you have a venue for problems. I'm not saying ya'll aren't as smart as the next one (I'm only 19 after all and am still in uni for EECT) but you have to be PATIENT. I'm sure it'll get fixed when it can... they can't just put in an order and double their servers. It'd be nice, but that's a LOT of money.
I was lead to beleive that Eve was a series of interconnected servers. Like Jita has its own server to handle its massive traffic. I honestly dont understand half the terminology for servers and databases but im pretty sure that a single server couldent support the entire TQ.
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Manina Boat
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:40:00 -
[143]
Isn't it about time CCP realised that they simply don't have the horsepower to run a single shard with 30,000+ clients expecting realtime and near-realtime database queries, calculations, updates and responses?
Split the EVE universe whichever way seems most logical - perhaps 0.0 and lowsec on one cluster and Empire on another - depending on the population breakdown. Transition delays between the clusters would still seem acceptable to people, for example, convo'ing someone on a different cluster or looking up contracts across the universe. The databases in the clusters could use queued message passing for updates to each other.
The plus side would mean that fleet blobs in 0.0 wouldn't bring down mission runners in Jita and vice versa. The downside could, potentially, mean a delay in jumping through a gate that involves a cluster change, e.g. from lowsec to Empire (which could cause problems for haulers trying to escape a lowsec gate camp, but I'm sure some priority could be given to that type of cross-cluster network/database traffic).
Just my tuppence-worth.
(Oh, and get rid of MS SQL ffs!)
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Teemu Rihianen
Gallente the Galactic Defence Initiative
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:41:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Doctor Fruitloop (...) im pretty sure that a single server couldent support the entire TQ.
Actually TQ and the test servers are VirtualPC's on my computer, I just had to restart because windows failed (SUPRISE!)  - - -
Join +the Galactic Defence Initiative½ today! |

PuncherDavis
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:52:00 -
[145]
I am going out on a limb here.
When the server crashes that means a sub game called marco polo was being played by a GM that nobody knows works for the company. THe marco polo game is so powerful that it begins to work on the outside server then works its way into the main data base.
IN order to get the server up and going again all the big beer drinking people have to stand on one foot with a beeer balanced on thier head and scream at the database saying.
MARCOOOOOOO
THe server then gets 1 seconds to HOLLER POLOOOOO
This continuies until one of the drunk GMS realizes that the voice POLO is really coming from the hamster/cockroach united against big nasty people liberation army has been misleading them.
THe battle then commences with the GMS now attempting to spray down the*****roach battalion with RAID and the hamsters then attempt to flank the lunch boxes and go for the BIG TWINKie goal.
Needless to say mass chaos insues with much cursing and the blades from the server are used as weapons to bash hamsters back into thier cages and the scoop the*****roaches and stick them in air born internment camps (out the window type)...
THen they finally come to the conclusion that after sobering up a bit that the hot chick that came waltzing in accidentally tripped over a power cord when they took her on a ALL OUT TOUR of thier wonderous facility.
Any thoughts on this I think im pretty close
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Kirjava
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler Here's a bit of information from our database people, explaining what happened.
The SQL server has been crashing regularly now due to a SQL Server internal scheduler stall. This causes the server to stop responding and eventually results in a failover. We have been diagnosing this as much as possible, we have an open support request at Microsoft and we have gotten senior consultant from a company called Miracle to look over the errorlogs and traces with us, with no luck at all. After yesterdays ä5 minute to downtimeô crash, we gathered very valuable data on the issue and that will hopefully help us to fully understand the issue, find out whats causing it and fix it.
To recap - does this mean that CCP is petitioning Microsoft due to server problems? And thankyou for the information - but does Microsoft have an eta on when servers will be up to say 2 months ago reliability?
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ctx2007
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Posted - 2007.08.03 16:59:00 -
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i know this is a pain in the a$$ for you people at CCP and its a pain for us as customers but can,t you bribe customs to get the new kit in any quicker 
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CCP Wrangler

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Posted - 2007.08.03 17:02:00 -
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We'll be continuing here, since all recent server issues are due to the same reason.
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