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Imperius Blackheart
Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.03 21:35:00 -
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Preferred a few months back PCZone ran the same feature, number 1 was Deus Ex, wow was only placed a few above EVE IIRC because of the mass market penitration and EVE was pretty high up.
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.08.03 21:35:00 -
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I hope multiplayer skirmish C&C Red Alert was in the top 10.
Thats a classic obsessive multi playergame!
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Asestorian
Minmatar Domination. KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.03 22:29:00 -
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I don't see what you're all complaining about.
The fact is it's a magazine, and it's primary purpose is to make money. I subscribe to the magazine for a laugh every now and again and some information on what games are coming up each month, because I can't be bothered to go look around for myself.
The list was compiled by the staff of the magazine I believe. It is hardly surprising that WoW is number one. At the end of the day, the magazine is read by loads of people, not just EVE players, and WoW is a far more popular game, and therefore will get the least amount of complaints for it being number one from their readers.
You're not supposed to take everything they say as the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth you know.
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Alora Venoda
Caldari GalTech
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Posted - 2007.08.03 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: jbob2000 link?
^^^^ what he said...
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Mind's Desire
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Posted - 2007.08.03 22:55:00 -
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Best PC games ever: Deus Ex (2 was kinda disappointing compared to 1 but overall it was ok) System Shock 1 & 2 Morrowind
Very good ones: Battlezone 1 & 2 Sacrifice Vampire: The Masquerade Earth 2140 & 2150 Dungeon Keeper 1 & 2
+Some I can't remember right now
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Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.03 23:23:00 -
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Edited by: Torquemanda Corteaz on 03/08/2007 23:28:17 one of the half lifes will be number one they always are.
PCGamer has done some amazing articles on eve-online they covered the GHSC heist and a writeup of a player experience of the GNW.
but that was a while ago, I lost interest in the magazine as I could read a better review online and download any demo I wished when high speed broadband became cheaper.
and they are a bunch of WoW fanboys
edit: Freespace 2 will be the be game ever for me You just couldnt beat it for awesome space battles..
"DIVE DIVE DIVE HIT YOUR BURNERS PILOT"
ah memories 
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.08.03 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Harkwyth Mist
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Brutor Shaun Number 25.....Eve Online. Not too bad I suppose, although alot of the games placed higher didn't deserve to be there IMO.
No prizes for guessing what was at number 1 WHY?????!!!!!
If X-Com Apoc is not #1, there is going to be blood.
I found "Enemy Unknown" to be much better than apoc, nothing else from the series quite beat the Sectoid death-spin.
the only credit apoc had was real-time combat option
Seriously Terror From the Deep was the best of the series. More missiontypes, the ships were my favorites. Also throwing handgrenades under water.
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Mindblank
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.03 23:44:00 -
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UFO, Enemy Unknown is defenitely a favorite, so is Civilization II
Also, the Great Escape on the ZX48k Spectrum was a great game :)
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.03 23:56:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: Harkwyth Mist
I found "Enemy Unknown" to be much better than apoc, nothing else from the series quite beat the Sectoid death-spin. the only credit apoc had was real-time combat option
Seriously Terror From the Deep was the best of the series. More missiontypes, the ships were my favorites. Also throwing handgrenades under water.
TFtD was a little too difficult for my taste, honestly. Half your weapons don't work above water!  I agree with Harkwyth - Apoc had some interesting ideas but they were implemented poorly. It makes me sad. ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION | Forum Whiners - Unite! |

Moon Kitten
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.08.04 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Taedrin
Originally by: Simon Barrow
Think they want, most of these people wouldnt know a good game if it smacked them right between the eyes.
TBH, a game that has attracted the attention of millions, who continue to pay a monthly fee alone speaks for how good it is.
Not really. Just look at popular music. 
Popular does not equal good. 
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Hixxy
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Posted - 2007.08.04 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Moon Kitten
Originally by: Taedrin
Originally by: Simon Barrow
Think they want, most of these people wouldnt know a good game if it smacked them right between the eyes.
TBH, a game that has attracted the attention of millions, who continue to pay a monthly fee alone speaks for how good it is.
Not really. Just look at popular music. 
Popular does not equal good. 
thats your opinion of course. bit like games i suppose, some people like some things some like others.
****** up thing about eve is your starting on the bottom of the pile with no way but time to climb that ladder. want me to let people steal my stuff in empire ccp? no ****ign way you getting my cash.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.04 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Greyscale I'd argue that Enemy Unknown was a better game than Apocalypse. If you want a modern turn-based squad-level game though, you can't do much better than Silent Storm.
Also, I know a shop which actually has boxed copies of X-Com: Enforcer. True story.
CCp dev team just raised a lot on my view after this post. eermm how muc you want for that priviledged info?
If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough |

Nick Curso
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.04 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: ReePeR McAllem I hope multiplayer skirmish C&C Red Alert was in the top 10.
Thats a classic obsessive multi playergame!
haha leet sig i want one
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Cipher7
OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.04 02:34:00 -
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I'd certainly place Eve in the Top 20 games of all time.
Other games I'd place on that list :
Deus Ex Fallout Diablo
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Mir Net
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Posted - 2007.08.04 06:37:00 -
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First.
All the people hitting on Pc gamer uk staff, wow fans ect, remember one thing, they have been one of eve's biggest supporters over the last 4 years.
Second.
Opinion polls might not represent your opinion
last.
While eve's allright and deserving of 25 or higher on concept alone, it's FAR beyond prefection that would see it break the top 10 imho. Massive imbalances still 4 years after release, the game is metagamed to crap and back which will allways hold it back, and it's core concept the massive "fleet" battles and the infrastructure surrounding it is genericaly broken at the moment.
25 isn't so bad when you consider all that is it, just about all the games above eve in that list are perfection in their genres, eve isn't perfection 'yet'.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.08.04 06:50:00 -
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Originally by: Mir Net
25 isn't so bad when you consider all that is it, just about all the games above eve in that list are perfection in their genres, eve isn't perfection 'yet'.
EVE hit perfection a long time ago, CCP DEV's just can't leave well enough alone .
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JamesTalon
Caldari Electric Fury Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.04 07:03:00 -
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Edited by: JamesTalon on 04/08/2007 07:04:00
Originally by: Alora Venoda
Originally by: jbob2000 link?
^^^^ what he said...
Ask and thou shalt recieve
Don't think its the same one that was in PCGamer, but it is a top 100 list... "Return with your shield, or on it." |

Dillon Arklight
Unit 14
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Posted - 2007.08.04 07:47:00 -
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X-COM : Enemy Unknown and EVE Online two of my favourite PC games ever. If only we could combine the two............hmmmmmmmmmm
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Aenigma
Griefwatch
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Posted - 2007.08.04 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: JamesTalon Edited by: JamesTalon on 04/08/2007 07:04:00
Originally by: Alora Venoda
Originally by: jbob2000 link?
^^^^ what he said...
Ask and thou shalt recieve
Don't think its the same one that was in PCGamer, but it is a top 100 list...
Well it doesn't have WoW at 1, so it's not the PCGamer UK list. However, since it has Planescape: Torment on the list, this has to be a good list 
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Vina
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.04 08:29:00 -
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That list is complete fail.
No Mechwarrior/Earthsiege/Starsiege/Cyberstorm. -----------------------------------
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Rennard
Aku Soku Zan
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Posted - 2007.08.04 08:35:00 -
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Edited by: Rennard on 04/08/2007 08:41:08 nvm it's an updated list.
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Aries Acheron
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.08.04 08:50:00 -
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Edited by: Aries Acheron on 04/08/2007 08:52:23 X-COM: Ufo Defense System Shock 1/2 Fallout 1/2 Jagged Alliance II Wing Commander 1-4 Mechwarrior 2 WC: Privateer Homeworld Deus Ex 1 Star Control 2 Master of Orion II Crimson Skies
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Anything I miss? If you don't respect that list, you just don't deserve to play games. :) Or need to check out those classics.
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Action! Suspense! Jita! Eve Tribune
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Herculite
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
If X-Com Apoc is not #1, there is going to be blood.
You know this is the first post of yours I agree with.
You might be an isk farmer, but X-Com apoc was the best 'real time' squad game mechanics wise to date. It pained me to see how later games like fallout tactics didn't implement some of their features.
im an isk farmer... why did i set my farm in a desert 
i would most likely disagree with most lists as i probably haven't played 1/2 the games
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Mnengli Noiliffe
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:37:00 -
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it is pointless to compare the games which have single player mode with MMOs, unless you consider EVE's mission running a single player mode, in which case it sucks in comparison anyway.
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:48:00 -
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I just have to add
Elder scrolls III Morrowind. It has a bigger, more indipendent and interesting than oblivion. Only thing it doesn't have is as good graphics... ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |

Kyusoath Orillian
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.08.04 10:26:00 -
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wow has the most subs for the same reason some of the crappiest pop music gets in the number 1 slot every week, the reason 'bands' like westlife ,take that and other terrible pop 'anthems' sell millions andrake in the money.
WOW is the westlife of gaming.
WoW is the george bush of gaming.
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Sir JoJo
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.04 10:31:00 -
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Since WOW is above both Eve and starcraft the list is a complete fail ;)
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xxy
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Posted - 2007.08.04 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kyusoath Orillian wow has the most subs for the same reason some of the crappiest pop music gets in the number 1 slot every week, the reason 'bands' like westlife ,take that and other terrible pop 'anthems' sell millions andrake in the money.
WOW is the westlife of gaming.
WoW is the george bush of gaming.
WoW is the top of that list because it's a really, really good game. Better than eve in a dozen ways, and completely different in a thousand more.
The sooner you people accept that just because you don't like something it isn't automatically rubbish, the sooner you can get back to arguing about PC vs Mac or whatever you filled your time with before MMO fanboys were invented.
please stop using the internet. you're making it rubbish.
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ry ry
StateCorp The State
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Posted - 2007.08.04 10:38:00 -
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alt.
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Entreri Finwe
Raptus Regaliter Pride - Honor - Duty
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Posted - 2007.08.04 10:42:00 -
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I want a list that includes Europa Universalis, Civilization I and UFO - Enemy Unknown... SportsCar GT and Viper Racing would be trailing them very close...
Originally by: jarack I de-synced in my bathroom once, now i have no where to wash my hands 
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