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Hydraxian Gallente Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.08.04 16:37:00 - [211] Just like your 3 part series, another good read. No idea if its true or not, but you have done exactly what i would have done, gone through every point necesecary for the discussion on the ownership of southern 0.0. Id be very interested to read a similar "article" from somebody on the "other side". Anyone ?
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.08.04 16:51:00 - [212] Edited by: fire 59 on 04/08/2007 16:52:21 Edit - meh Carrier 1 Billion isk 19 fighters 323 million isk Watching goonfleet getting there @$$ handed to them and reading there hagred attempt at smacktalking after the fact ...PRICELESS
Lakedaimon Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.08.04 17:00:00 - [213] Ack! My spirit! It's crushed! Sometimes I worry about how we've gone from bad to worse (which is like super bad!). I think about how we have gone quiet so people won't notice our losses. I mean Molle posting about his titan loss on the forums, that was so quiet the guy was practically whispering. That's how desperate we've grown (maybe because our region isn't that nice. I disagree by the way, the red backgrounds look awesome and the stations are full of exotic dancers.). Then I think about how we're clearly doomed because this guy said so on CAOD. You folks heard the OP - we have lost. And I'm not talking about the TV show here. Lost. There's no doubting the accuracy of his posts. He used full sentences and everything! We're pretty much screwed I guess, the only thing left is to quit EVE - who wants our stuff? I think about all those things when I read this dude's posts. But then I remember that during past wars we learned from our opponents that responding to the enemy sitting in your stations with alt posts and long strategic essays is not as brilliant a strategy as some originally hoped, so I proceed to think about dancing with the butterflies in a field of wild flowers.
Razor Jaxx Khumatari Holdings	Posted - 2007.08.04 17:22:00 - [214] The OP must be commended for a very well-written post (the same applies to his previous series). Writings like these are reminiscent of the 'good old days' and are always a pleasure to read. However, this post (and, again, the previous series) is heavily laden with obvious bias - again, just like in the 'good old days'. Bottom line : pure propaganda (and good propaganda is always very carefully crafted). The recurring argument by which BoB has weakened itself via the recruiting of substandard pilots, eager to join a winner but subsequently unable to deliver, is very debatable. On one hand, all major successful alliances are vulnerable to this form of decay - not just BoB ; the alternative would be to not recruit at all, and I can't believe this would be a better strategy, as alliances need manpower and cannon fodder. On the other hand, that argument is being brought up now, while if it really had that much of an impact, it would have been brought up a lot earlier - unfortunately, there was no so-called 'evidence' to back it up then. The argument, however, bundled in with the relative cajoling of core BoB vets, makes for a nice propaganda effect, which could prove quite damaging if pilots (especially BoB's) actually start believing it holds some truth. As for the rest of the post, it resolves mostly around strategic choices (and assumptions on the poster's part), which means it is largely speculative in nature. Certainly the facts are here - BoB lost quite a few stations without putting up much of a fight, and RSF are gaining ground, and BoB's allies ranks are thinning. One could argue that the situation might be a lot worse if BoB was fighting tooth and nail and still was losing ground at the same pace. Maybe they are just putting up token resistance while planning for a more effective approach? Maybe they considered they over-extended and felt necessary to focus their efforts on other areas of their vast territory? What about allies then? BoB has worked with YouWhat before, YouWhat are close associates of Triumvirate (a 'young' pvp force by EvE standards, but still to be reckoned with), who have also worked with MC before. Who's to say you won't see YW/TRI barging in from the north to save BoB's ass (that is, if it needs saving)? Who knows? This is all pure speculation, and unless you are actually privy to BoB's strategy and diplomacy, you know nothing, just as I do. That's the beauty of this game, anything could happen. Anything will happen. As for this war, well, it won't be over until the fat lady sings anyway - you can keep basking in the glory of your well-written posts, it won't change the actual outcome, whatever it may be. Peace.
Nlewis GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.04 17:53:00 - [215] all these bob tears taste so good
Kyozoku Mutiny.	Posted - 2007.08.04 18:35:00 - [216] tl;dr
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.08.04 18:46:00 - [217] Originally by: Zenst Yet more propaganda. very droll. The irony... Originally by: Lucian Sulla "I have sand in my vagina, so I can't pvp today"
ED 209 Old Detroit Crime Syndicate	Posted - 2007.08.04 19:12:00 - [218] Originally by: Don Z0LA Edited by: Don Z0LA on 04/08/2007 14:54:08 Originally by: ED 209 Originally by: CYVOK James, your walls of text are the only ones worth reading all the way to the end. Nice read, keep em comming. -CYVOK- Since you now have garnered Cyvoks support for your writtings, I think nothing else needs to be said regarding it's accuracy. since he got your alt attention means he said some truth aswell. anyways nice read. edit : spelling :/ It's great I have my own forums stalker! \o/ P.S. I bet he has be bookmarked.
Evenfall Phoenix The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.08.04 20:37:00 - [219] damn James, your writing style gives me such a large woody. Regardless of bias or facts or anything else, it's still such a great read.
Mark Syrus Gallente The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.08.04 20:56:00 - [220] Originally by: Bin Matar This thread delivers........... Many words Very Little insight U sir are a tool can someone tell RSF leadership to spew propaganda with there main characters. this is getting old...oh noes bob lost some "pet" space, its all over folks..pack your bags, BOB will no longer have to maintain sov over 40+ stations, now they will save isk b/c they only have 35. (insert sarcasm here). But from now on, since everyone loves to soak up what the rsf alts are saying. I will put together a propaganda Council to represent the Coalition side and the RSF Side. I promise that we will keep it brief, spamming pilots with 8 pages of garbage isnt my style. I ask that Sir Molle, Seleene, DB Preacher and other various leaders message me . so that we can set the facts straight. I also ask that pilots message me in regard to the info that they would like to see reported from both sides. My fellow pilots if you feel that you would like to try your hand at reporting the FACTS. Please get in touch with me. I want Immensea back, so contact me with offers. :) Thanks, Mark Syrus "The Shadow" Mark Syrus Founder of Crimson Shadows -The Phoenix Rising- "Rise within us through the Ashes of Empires"

Flow Befort GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.04 20:59:00 - [221] Originally by: Mark Syrus Mark Syrus "The Shadow"
Gloomy Gus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.04 22:33:00 - [222] Originally by: Gneeznow Fire 59 worst poster on eve-o, quote dis if your down I'm still trying to figure out what "hagred" means.
Gloomy Gus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.04 22:43:00 - [223] Originally by: Mark Syrus I ask that Sir Molle, Seleene, DB Preacher and other various leaders message me Thanks, Mark Syrus "The Shadow" . . . and the call was heard throughout the land, and the Greatest Dignitaries throughout the Mightiest Regions Of Space gathered at Mark Syrus' left hand to ratify what was forever known from then on as "The Shadow Summit". Those merely browsing the internet space forums didn't know it at the time, but they were seeing history in the making.
Dionisius Gallente LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2007.08.04 23:50:00 - [224] Who are these BoB you speak of? Are they locals? This is a local galaxy...for local people... _______________________ Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39 in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.04 23:57:00 - [225] Originally by: Gloomy Gus Originally by: Gneeznow Fire 59 worst poster on eve-o, quote dis if your down I'm still trying to figure out what "hagred" means. Wasn't he the giant? --------
Cringeley GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.05 00:09:00 - [226] Originally by: Avon Look at the map. Who is where? You are currently backing slowly out of the space that a few months ago belonged to chow, whose targets you stole, the targets being goons, of which there are none.
wallplate Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.08.05 00:15:00 - [227] Edited by: wallplate on 05/08/2007 00:16:12 Edit - Blah [:twisted:
Aduna Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.05 00:17:00 - [228] Originally by: Zenst Yet more propaganda. very droll. this coming from the alliance that is the master of propaganda. "there are no Goons", remember that? Originally by: James 315 Goon logistics may have the most efficient manner of griefing BoB that there is:every Goon tower in a BoB system is a punch in BoB's stomach and a middle finger to Dianabolic's crew
Matty Walker Body Heat LLP	Posted - 2007.08.05 00:22:00 - [229] Back in the day, Sir Molle's motto was "nice region, we'll take it!" Now, when the bobbits lose space, they grumble "well, it wasn't really that nice, and we didn't want anyway, and it's summer, and ..." I hope the hardcore arrogant BoB war machine comes back soon -- I miss it. Well, not so much the arrogance actually, that never left, but the hardcore war machine part.
Roemy Schneider BINFORD	Posted - 2007.08.05 00:34:00 - [230] nice read switch names and places and it can be projected onto any (late) alliance on a high horse; ISS, ASCN, D2, BoB be realistic, fair and trustworthy and your alliance should be fine -.- - putting the gist back into logistics

Psy'Zo Mandala Group	Posted - 2007.08.05 01:01:00 - [231] Originally by: James 315 impotence itself LOL
Lucius Ventrue Minmatar Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.08.05 01:21:00 - [232] So I assume you will provide a well written synopsis ...say F2A-GX and N7-BIY get spammed to hell and back...? RISE Fleet Commander & Resurrection Military Director
Audri Fisher Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.08.05 01:31:00 - [233] Originally by: Victor Vision Butter Dog is in the house! CYVOK is in the house! Tyrrax Thorrk is in the house! Stamm is in the house! fire 59 is in the house! Audri Fisher is in the house! Hardin is in the house! Murukan is in the house! Avon is in the house! Helen is in the house! Lunas Feelgood is in the house! Congratulations James315, keep your blogs coming. They make for a good read and a nice party of replies. Am I that big of a forum troll?
Dionisius Gallente LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL	Posted - 2007.08.05 01:38:00 - [234] Originally by: Cringeley Originally by: Avon Look at the map. Who is where? You are currently backing slowly out of the space that a few months ago belonged to chow, whose targets you stole, the targets being goons, of which there are none. BOOM HEAAAADSHOT! /avon's body runs like a headless chicken against the nearest wall. _______________________ Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39 in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire.
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.05 01:45:00 - [235] Originally by: Avon From where I am sitting, here is how I see the war: The allies are sitting in former coalition space, space which the coalition have still failed to retake - even after all the changes which they claim have sounded the death toll for BoB. How are you going to conquer all of 0.0 space if you can't hold what you conquered last month?
USN CVN72 Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.08.05 03:23:00 - [236] My Momma once said if bob had sex with goon that you would come up with CFS.... omg did we just come to a 360 in eve universe??????? pew pew pew pew pew pew pew... USN is on crak and cafe and some serious stuff that come from comets that omg USN is .....
Schlieren Altiprlayle GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.08.05 05:27:00 - [237] Originally by: Gloomy Gus . . . and the call was heard throughout the land, and the Greatest Dignitaries throughout the Mightiest Regions Of Space gathered at Mark Syrus' left hand to ratify what was forever known from then on as "The Shadow Summit". Those merely browsing the internet space forums didn't know it at the time, but they were seeing history in the making. . . . Ahh, yes. . . yes, I remember that day. ____________________________ stop posting
Alty MacAlterson Alt Corporation Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.08.05 06:13:00 - [238] This picture should explain it all.
CrispyKritters Caldari GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.08.05 06:23:00 - [239] Edited by: CrispyKritters on 05/08/2007 06:23:41 Originally by: Alty MacAlterson This picture should explain it all. More like This one
Alty MacAlterson Alt Corporation Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.08.05 06:25:00 - [240] Originally by: CrispyKritters Edited by: CrispyKritters on 05/08/2007 06:23:41 Originally by: Alty MacAlterson This picture should explain it all. More like This one Godwin's Law in effect. All rational discussion must cease.



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