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CrispyKritters
Caldari
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.08.05 06:27:00 -
[241]
 Originally by: Alty MacAlterson
Originally by: CrispyKritters
Edited by: CrispyKritters on 05/08/2007 06:23:41
Originally by: Alty MacAlterson
This picture should explain it all.
More like This one
Godwin's Law in effect. All rational discussion must cease.
There is rational discussion to cease? 
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Alty MacAlterson
Alt Corporation
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.08.05 06:28:00 -
[242]
Originally by: CrispyKritters
Originally by: Alty MacAlterson
Originally by: CrispyKritters
Edited by: CrispyKritters on 05/08/2007 06:23:41
Originally by: Alty MacAlterson
This picture should explain it all.
More like This one
Godwin's Law in effect. All rational discussion must cease.
There is rational discussion to cease?
If there was, it would cease!
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Alias11
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.05 08:06:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Avon
There was a time where I, and many others, would have been happy to have a lengthy and in depth discussion about this and many other topics here on CAOD, but now it seems nothing more than an exercise in futility.
Maybe if the nature of this section of the forums improves that will change, but I don't hold out too much hope.
If it's because the volume and ability of our forum *****s far exceeds your own no one will really mind if you just say we beat you at your own game, it was bound to happen eventually
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Cyrus Ildemar
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.05 08:30:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Avon
Or maybe the POS k/d ratio is actually as meaningless as the goons think ship k/d is?
Guys I'm trying to calculate our POS k/d ratio but I keep getting a divide by zero error what am I doing wrong? :(
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Keta Min
Armoured Assassins
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Posted - 2007.08.05 09:53:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Cyrus Ildemar
Guys I'm trying to calculate our POS k/d ratio but I keep getting a divide by zero error what am I doing wrong? :(
It's all your fault!!
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Docteur Jal
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Posted - 2007.08.05 11:05:00 -
[246]
James 315... Another Semaj Valencia's alt? :)
You sound like him, same propaganda, same style, same comedy !
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Proxay
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2007.08.05 11:10:00 -
[247]
Someone from IAC told me to run to the forums...
So here i am!
*ta-da*
Fallen Angel's Recruitment |
Zeveron
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.05 11:32:00 -
[248]
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Avon
From where I am sitting, here is how I see the war:
The allies are sitting in former coalition space, space which the coalition have still failed to retake - even after all the changes which they claim have sounded the death toll for BoB.
How are you going to conquer all of 0.0 space if you can't hold what you conquered last month?
I thought you should be ratting in delve by now, or better some months ago :-)
Its alliance has its longtime and shorttime goals:
BoB
Short: Destroy goons
Long: Conquer 0.0
Goons:
Short: survive
Long: destroy BoB
Who is nearer to achive his goals?
PS: You didnt crashed the node last night. Next time pls bring more :-)
Grats saving that small pos btw :-)
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NOObbody
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.08.05 11:51:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Zeveron
I thought you should be ratting in delve by now, or better some months ago :-)
Its alliance has its longtime and shorttime goals:
BoB
Short: Destroy goons
Long: Conquer 0.0
Goons:
Short: survive
Long: destroy BoB
Who is nearer to achive his goals?
Goons have achieved 1 of 2 goals, BoB however is struggling with both.
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Kyle Frost
Caldari
Phoenix Knights
Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.05 12:01:00 -
[250]
To the author:
What exactly is the purpose of this thread ?
To the readers :
Why is this thread 9 pages long ? Is it simply because itÆs a BoB thread ?
What gives the author credibility ? If I write 7 pages of ôsomethingö that includes BoB in it û are you going to read it ?
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Ruato
Gallente
Gurgleblaster Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.05 12:08:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Zeveron
BoB
Short: Destroy goons
If i remember correctly, there are no goons because bob already killed them while ago   
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Get rid of those *bleep*ing secure containers. *bleep*! |
Stahlregen
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.05 12:14:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Zeveron
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Avon
From where I am sitting, here is how I see the war:
The allies are sitting in former coalition space, space which the coalition have still failed to retake - even after all the changes which they claim have sounded the death toll for BoB.
How are you going to conquer all of 0.0 space if you can't hold what you conquered last month?
I thought you should be ratting in delve by now, or better some months ago :-)
Its alliance has its longtime and shorttime goals:
BoB
Short: Destroy goons
Long: Conquer 0.0
Goons:
Short: survive
Long: destroy BoB
Who is nearer to achive his goals?
PS: You didnt crashed the node last night. Next time pls bring more :-)
Grats saving that small pos btw :-)
Uh.. Goons are nearer because they're still alive where as you have vowed to exterminate them over a year ago.
Hey Let's do this instead, How many titans has Goonswarm lost versus killed? 2/0 Oh crap! You're losing with that comparison aswell, Okay well maybe that doesn't count because technically we got help from RA and TCF right? I guess that means we get to count the LV titan as a another kill, seeing as you were getting help from them right?
OH ****! SURPRISE YOU'RE STILL LOSING! 
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Local Her0
Minmatar
La Mancha Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.05 12:16:00 -
[253]
Edited by: Local Her0 on 05/08/2007 12:18:52
Originally by: Kyle Frost
To the author:
What exactly is the purpose of this thread ?
To the readers :
Why is this thread 9 pages long ? Is it simply because itÆs a BoB thread ?
What gives the author credibility ? If I write 7 pages of ôsomethingö that includes BoB in it û are you going to read it ?
1) because after 8 comes 9
2) no - it's an interesting read on an interesting conflict
3) his posts and his video(s)
4) depends on the headline and the first 2-3 sentences
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Waterfowl Democracy
The Ministry of Indigenous Affairs
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.05 13:09:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Zeveron
Grats saving that small pos btw :-)
Grats on losing a whole bunch of POSes. It's much more honourable to sit in your POS shields while we destroy yet another large (or small we don't care) than it is to try and stop us.
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.08.05 15:31:00 -
[255]
Kill.
BoB.
Dead.
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Friends Forever
Kill.
BoB.
Dead. |
Murina
Gallente
The JORG Corporation
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.05 15:36:00 -
[256]
Any chance on getting a proper battle report instead of a lot of arguing about lag or the usual spin from either side.
Cos it seems to me that the fight is slowing down compared to how long it took RA/goon to take other systems?.
Please only inclure facts and do not make predictions.
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Epoh
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.05 15:50:00 -
[257]
I always enjoy reading your essays, you must have a lot of free time to think and compose.
Eve-o forum coding is really terrible. |
Isben Yamas
COLSUP
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.05 16:17:00 -
[258]
I want the same drugs james!
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Sariyah
Gallente
HUN Corp.
HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2007.08.05 19:55:00 -
[259]
omg, 2long didnt read.
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Sekket
Caldari
White-Noise
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.08.05 20:15:00 -
[260]
Dude, you have so much energy, write a frickin' novel already.
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Yorda
Kudzu Collective
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.08.05 21:18:00 -
[261]
Nice one.
My favorite part was that you even included a tl:dr.
Hey BoB keep changing those goal posts and your players won't know where to kick the ball!
I am still a goon so this signature stays |
Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.08.05 21:27:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Ruato
Originally by: Zeveron
BoB
Short: Destroy goons
If i remember correctly, there are no goons because bob already killed them while ago
you do remember correctly. someone in bob posted about how goons would never be allowed to hold 0.0 space again and would in fact wipe them out of the game. then he said he was going to conquer all of 0.0. i just can't remember that guy's name, i think it started with kish, kush, something like that. |
ZiYauRen
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.05 22:20:00 -
[263]
Ok... i'll likely get chewed on in corp for this post but hey. I almost never post in forums so i'll say my piece. In White Rabbit Ore in case it doesn't show n someone takes offense at that.
I read the whole thing and despite the bias he has some good points and assumptions. The idea here, however, is to point out a couple things he actually missed.
First off its not over and Bob likely isn't dead just yet. In spite of the fact that they are overextended and in a forced retreat they could regroup and do a breakout at some point. Thats expensive and unlikely to work without reinforcements from allies. So you guys pushin m back should watch ur flanks... could make for a nasty surprise.
Aside from that the idea that Bob is valiant or somehow going to win because they are outnumbered but somehow superior is pure bull. They are outnumbered because they have already lost the propoganda war. They are trying to retreat and regroup there too. They don't have grass roots support.
Bear with me a bit... the practical and useful 'missed' part is coming... honest :}
Lets do some math and explain what Bob actually is. An alliance with 10 corp members. Tin Foil is the executor corp with 39 members and holds over 90% of Bob settlements. Four other corps hold around 90% of Bobs membership. only one corp besides Bob has taxes over 10%. The 39 members of Bob must be strongly committed because there taxes are 100%. One other is 80%. Most of their pilots are not into economics and are out there fighting when they can. Thier current viable conquest territory is flanked by empire and has a hostile front closing on them which leaves them little room for expansion and growth. They are prosecuting an expensive war.
So you have a handful of capable highly committed guys who have momentum and must keep it going. Without they are finished.
What does this mean? Well... now we come to the reason for this and the practical part. Today my CEO was attacked and pod killed by a Bob pilot in Gehi... no big deal ... happens all the time right? Problem is our corp and alliance has a deal w/bob. The pilots excuse was that he wasn't blue to him. How convenient. Even when told he demanded implants n pod killed when refused. Either Bobs admin sux or they can't be trusted. That is also not the only instance of such behaviour lately and it seems Bob 'doesn't notice' it.
Look at those numbers again and do the math. What will these pilots do when bored, no pvp available, or think no one will notice. If you want to do your people a favor pull your support from Bob or don't give it and make a deal giving you at least quasi independence when the opposition shows. They need to keep such deals to get more. You are not gonna like what happens if/when Bob has all the cards and their pilots are bored. Thats a lot of bored pilots with only occasional supervision and apparently not a lot of self discipline.
This is the time to turn the tables and save your people a lot of grief. Do you really think those guys will be happy just running missions once your area is secure and you are reduced to pos monkeys and cash cows?
JUst a thot :}
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Angeles
Caldari
ZiTek Deepspace Explorations
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.08.05 22:36:00 -
[264]
bob who?
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Kymlicka
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.05 22:39:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Angeles
bob who?
Bob Eubanks
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joshua cane
Section XIII
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.05 22:43:00 -
[266]
warp to the can 
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Necro EvilZombie
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.06 01:47:00 -
[267]
this thread delivers.....lots of words
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Swinton Wolsoncroft
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.06 04:11:00 -
[268]
I designed those brakes. :colbert:
Do not trolls in your sig. -Kaemonn |
Celeste DeVall
Darksaber Technologies
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.06 04:30:00 -
[269]
"I thought you should be ratting in delve by now, or better some months ago :-)"
Well, I'm ratting in Delve now. Quite nice here. 
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RtoZ
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Posted - 2007.08.06 05:44:00 -
[270]
Bob Hope. Oh crap, I shouldn't post in here.
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