Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The authoring changes required to support the code changes here haven't made it onto SiSi yet, so the bay sizes are incorrect.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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Edited by: CCP Greyscale on 06/08/2007 15:05:01

Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The authoring changes required to support the code changes here haven't made it onto SiSi yet, so the bay sizes are incorrect.

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The main change here is to fuel bay sizes, which are roughly doubling in capacity. In order to accommodate this without making strontium loads ridiculous, we're implementing a separate strontium bay. Due to the need to move all strontium into its own bay during the patch, the strontium bay has to be as big as the current starbase fuel bays. If we get the opportunity to revisit reinforcement timers in future they may be adjusted down slightly, but for now we're constrained by circumstance.

If we do revisit reinforcement timers, it's unlikely right now that we'll use them to swing the balance of starbase warfare massively in favour of the attacking alliance as that doesn't look like it would improve starbase warfare.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The authoring changes required to support the code changes here haven't made it onto SiSi yet, so the bay sizes are incorrect.

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Originally by: Seleene

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It seems to me that 'independence' is a relative term these days, determined mainly by the size and number of your guns.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The main change here is to fuel bay sizes, which are roughly doubling in capacity.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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Edited by: CCP Greyscale on 06/08/2007 15:05:01

Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The authoring changes required to support the code changes here haven't made it onto SiSi yet, so the bay sizes are incorrect.

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The main change here is to fuel bay sizes, which are roughly doubling in capacity. In order to accommodate this without making strontium loads ridiculous, we're implementing a separate strontium bay. Due to the need to move all strontium into its own bay during the patch, the strontium bay has to be as big as the current starbase fuel bays. If we get the opportunity to revisit reinforcement timers in future they may be adjusted down slightly, but for now we're constrained by circumstance.

If we do revisit reinforcement timers, it's unlikely right now that we'll use them to swing the balance of starbase warfare massively in favour of the attacking alliance as that doesn't look like it would improve starbase warfare.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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Edited by: CCP Greyscale on 06/08/2007 15:05:01

Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The authoring changes required to support the code changes here haven't made it onto SiSi yet, so the bay sizes are incorrect.

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The main change here is to fuel bay sizes, which are roughly doubling in capacity. In order to accommodate this without making strontium loads ridiculous, we're implementing a separate strontium bay. Due to the need to move all strontium into its own bay during the patch, the strontium bay has to be as big as the current starbase fuel bays. If we get the opportunity to revisit reinforcement timers in future they may be adjusted down slightly, but for now we're constrained by circumstance.

If we do revisit reinforcement timers, it's unlikely right now that we'll use them to swing the balance of starbase warfare massively in favour of the attacking alliance as that doesn't look like it would improve starbase warfare.

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Originally by: Donathan Slade

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Whats wrong with the universal 1 Minute un-anchoring time for ALL modules?

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The main change here is to fuel bay sizes, which are roughly doubling in capacity.

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Originally by: Ifni

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Shorter POS reinforced times = win.

With higher levels of sovereignty its already hard to get an established alliance into trouble for their space. By reducing the amount of time they can ignore the impending doom for, means the quicker you can get on with conquering them.

Less timesinks = win.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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Edited by: CCP Greyscale on 06/08/2007 15:05:01

Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The authoring changes required to support the code changes here haven't made it onto SiSi yet, so the bay sizes are incorrect.

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The main change here is to fuel bay sizes, which are roughly doubling in capacity. In order to accommodate this without making strontium loads ridiculous, we're implementing a separate strontium bay. Due to the need to move all strontium into its own bay during the patch, the strontium bay has to be as big as the current starbase fuel bays. If we get the opportunity to revisit reinforcement timers in future they may be adjusted down slightly, but for now we're constrained by circumstance.

If we do revisit reinforcement timers, it's unlikely right now that we'll use them to swing the balance of starbase warfare massively in favour of the attacking alliance as that doesn't look like it would improve starbase warfare.

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Originally by: Atrisha

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My take on Strontium Clathrates so far has been the following:

When a POS is put into reinforced, two time periods follow (for the defender):

1. The "rally the troops" period.
2. The "wait until a favorable time of day" period.

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Either way, I'm happy about the fuel bay size change.

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Originally by: Neurotic Cat

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Double the fuel capacity 4tw!!!!! This will cut my pos fueling time in half and give us all more time to *play* the game.

Hurry up and get this onto the production servers!

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Originally by: Xeliya

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Edited by: Xeliya on 07/08/2007 00:25:28

Need to allow 48 hours otherwise the attacking force will have a HUGE upper hand of already being assembled.

Otherwise this is a long over due change.

Any news on fixing POS lock times or fixing external mods being a pain in the butt to kill after the tower is gone which has resulted in the most annoying POS spam. Should just make all the mods go pop then the tower dies TBH.

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Originally by: Murukan

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22 hours is perfect imo. Ignore the goon tears. With the silly defenses pos can reach nowadays making it easier to kill them is a definate plus.

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Originally by: WarMongeer

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Originally by: Ifni

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Shorter POS reinforced times = win.

With higher levels of sovereignty its already hard to get an established alliance into trouble for their space. By reducing the amount of time they can ignore the impending doom for, means the quicker you can get on with conquering them.

Less timesinks = win.

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So says the boy with nothing to defend. This change would punish everyone but the attacker. It'd be especially dificult as stated above multiple times to people who work full time and can only play once a day, and who have corpmates with similar situations in the same timezone.

Increase to 36 hours at least.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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Boosting the fuel bay size of a large tower to the intended size of 110,000m3 gives you ~19 days fuel without sov, ~25.5 days with sovereignty level 1 and ~27 days with constellation sovereignty. We were aiming at a maximum fuelling interval of four weeks, and these numbers put us in the right area. I'll have a look at the silo situation tomorrow, but that's a purely industrial matter so it'll need to be looked at just from an industry perspective.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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Boosting the fuel bay size of a large tower to the intended size of 110,000m3 gives you ~19 days fuel without sov, ~25.5 days with sovereignty level 1 and ~27 days with constellation sovereignty. We were aiming at a maximum fuelling interval of four weeks, and these numbers put us in the right area. I'll have a look at the silo situation tomorrow, but that's a purely industrial matter so it'll need to be looked at just from an industry perspective.

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Originally by: Mahrin Skel

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This would hand one hell of an advantage to the agressor in a territorial conflict. Right now the only advantage the defender has is that he can choose the time of the second fight for a POS with a lot of flexibility to create the maximum inconvenience for the attacker. It takes a lot of time to organize a fleet op where capitals are involved, time the attacker is going to have (because he can do it all before the attack) and the defender is not (because he'd have, at most assuming Sov and high-grade Faction towers, 37 hours to get ready). We're going to see a *lot* of stations trading hands in blitz attacks. A day and a half is simply not enough time to organize a defense, call for allies, have them arrive, etc.

Combined with the new Sov rules and the uber-gimp POS guns we have now (a fleet of 40BS should not be able to take out a fully-fitted large POS, no matter how much time they have, in fact with enough time and stront a *single* dread could do it because even a maxed-out POS cannot kill a well-fitted Dread in siege), we're going to see large swaths of no-man's-land, where nobody is allowed to hold space long enough to establish Sov 3 or 4, seperating a comparative handful of alliances (less than a third of the current number of territorial alliances) that have Sov 3-4, jumpgate networks, etc. Those that live in that space will be much like those that live in NPC regions, trying to keep a low profile while living in space they can never actually own.

--Dave

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