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Tsanse Kinske WeMeanYouKnowHarm	Posted - 2007.08.07 17:01:00 - [31] Originally by: Shevar I agree remove concord from empire! Win. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
KISOGOKU	Posted - 2007.08.07 17:06:00 - [32] You have to be 1500m around of can to steal(and you cant tractor) ,but you can shoot from 250km.A change something like this will used just griefing i think Originally by: Ekscalybur This doesn't really make sense. He can steal the contents of the wreck (the salvage bits) no problem. And when he does so, a can materializes containing the stuff the wreck used to hold. Why doesn't a can just materialize when the wreck is destoyed? .
Barbarellas Daughter Lonely Barbarella	Posted - 2007.08.07 17:10:00 - [33] i lost 4 kestrel to this while i tried to salvage in hisec 1. target wreck 2. click rocket instead of salvager 3. ??? 4. profit! (insurance) ____________________________________________ Originally by: Marduk Felzhen You have an amazing cleavage, except you have no arms :(
SexxxSlave	Posted - 2007.08.07 17:42:00 - [34] Originally by: Siigari Kitawa What? Is CONCORD supposed to come and fire a couple shots over your bow and say "HEY! Don't do that!" Yeah it sucks, but fact is, that's not your stuff to shoot. and neither is stuff in a cargo can thats not yours. Take cargo thats not yours = aggression countdown...shoot cargo thats not yours = CONCORDOKKEN...why? I think that deserves a fair explanation
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.08.07 17:43:00 - [35] uh, because one involves shooting? dur Real men fly Pink. I've been living in your cassette, It's the modern equivalent, singing up to a Capulet, on a balcony in
Wigglytuff Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.07 17:44:00 - [36] Originally by: OneSock So last night we were doing a bit of hacking in a cosmos site which if you've ever been there is a bit mental and somewhat laggy. The unfortunate mistake my corp mate made was to shoot a yellow wreck. Shortly after, concord arrived.... Well what a mistaka to maka ! But I did start to thinking, isn't it a bit harsh for concord to turn up and pwn you just for shooting a wreck ? Surely a criminal flagging of some sort to the wreck owner would be more appropriate ? I promise you that you'll change your tune the first time someone pops your wreck/can full of loot in highsec. Belt piracy isnt what it used to be.
FarScape III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.08.07 17:45:00 - [37] IMO and from what I have seen, comcord blows up more ships for no good reason then anyone else. *** A Minmater City... Cool!
Wigglytuff Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.07 17:48:00 - [38] Originally by: Sazkyen Edited by: Sazkyen on 07/08/2007 15:58:41 If they removed CONCORD shooting you for destroying wrecks people would use it to end in order to ransom mission runners. Fixed, because that's exactly what I'd do. go in, lock their objective item and tell them X mil or it gets popped. Ransom the player without ever locking their ship! Ransom lvl 4 faction fit BSes in a frig. Belt piracy isnt what it used to be.
FarScape III Journey On Squad	Posted - 2007.08.07 17:58:00 - [39] Originally by: Wigglytuff Originally by: Sazkyen Edited by: Sazkyen on 07/08/2007 15:58:41 If they removed CONCORD shooting you for destroying wrecks people would use it to end in order to ransom mission runners. Fixed, because that's exactly what I'd do. go in, lock their objective item and tell them X mil or it gets popped. Ransom the player without ever locking their ship! Ransom lvl 4 faction fit BSes in a frig. Can't you just steel their objective item too? And already? *** A Minmater City... Cool!
Pisi Mopsu	Posted - 2007.08.07 22:49:00 - [40] I have a problem with Concord blowing up my gang members when they shoot my wrecks. If they can salvage and loot a wreck of mine when we're ganged then why the heck shouldn't they be able to blow it up!?!
Varheg Xan The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.08.07 22:52:00 - [41] I agree, it sucks when gang members get popped for shooting wrecks. I mean, it can happen by accident, and did to a guy I was running a mission with once. Newbish to shoot a wreck, yes, but also a bit harsh.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.08.07 23:25:00 - [42] Let us shoot jetcans too! and make salvaging someone else's kill give them killrights... then the balance of Eve shall be restored Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
Dred'Pirate Jesus Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2007.08.07 23:47:00 - [43] Edited by: Dred''Pirate Jesus on 07/08/2007 23:52:03 Originally by: FarScape III Originally by: Wigglytuff Originally by: Sazkyen Edited by: Sazkyen on 07/08/2007 15:58:41 If they removed CONCORD shooting you for destroying wrecks people would use it to end in order to ransom mission runners. Fixed, because that's exactly what I'd do. go in, lock their objective item and tell them X mil or it gets popped. Ransom the player without ever locking their ship! Ransom lvl 4 faction fit BSes in a frig. Can't you just steel their objective item too? And already? Sure you can and as soon as your flashy red they get to pop your little frig like a rotten grape.. Unless of course they were too dumb to not lock you up on your run to the objective can and you warp after taking fom it.. And as far as getting popped by accidentaly shooting your gang mates can I think if you set your personal standings to +10 for your mates then it should allow them to do whatever they want and the same if they set your standings to +10.. Since it would be a personal choice to set standings that high there should be no problems with people griefing that setup.. Originally by: David Hackworth ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.08 00:08:00 - [44] I agree. Remove guns. --- Grismar.net
Emperor D'Hoffryn No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.08.08 00:10:00 - [45] on the surface it does not seem to make sense....but as has been said already, it stops all sorts of nasty griefing scenarios where there is zero risk to the griefer. Right now, you have to fly up to the can, and physically take the stuff. During this time, if the can owner is nearby, he can see what you are doing, and either get the stuff before you, or pop you once you grab stuff. Having you locked already before you get to the can is trivial. At least there is SOME risk currently...popping the can/wreck/mission objective from 200+km while aligned is NOT risk. Also, popping a wreck should not make a can drop.....popping wrecks in 0.0 to prevent the enemy from getting phat lewts is a valid and cherished tactic.....sometimes you cant get the stuff yourself, and you want to deny them the stuff as well. Originally by: Snuggly It's just so great to have an actual reason to not die, incentive is fantastic!
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.08.08 00:46:00 - [46] It should lead to a flagging, Concord need to butt out. Also Known As
Ugor Batarr Minmatar Jelly Baby Corporation	Posted - 2007.08.08 02:32:00 - [47] Originally by: OneSock Originally by: Rose Tyler So he ignored the warning? He may have turned it off given that a lot of his time is spent in the business in low sec. No need to discuss the matter at all - you even get a warning before you can shoot a wreck/can. If you turn it off it's your own risk (and fault). IMO anybody being that dumb should be podded by CONCORD as well ______________________________________________
Dodiez Gallente ScaryScaryNoobs	Posted - 2007.08.08 02:39:00 - [48] Originally by: OneSock So last night we were doing a bit of hacking in a cosmos site which if you've ever been there is a bit mental and somewhat laggy. The unfortunate mistake my corp mate made was to shoot a yellow wreck. Shortly after, concord arrived.... Well what a mistaka to maka ! But I did start to thinking, isn't it a bit harsh for concord to turn up and pwn you just for shooting a wreck ? Surely a criminal flagging of some sort to the wreck owner would be more appropriate ? You can't even shoot a gang-mates wreck on accident...trust me.
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.08 02:44:00 - [49] Actually, that warning gets really annoying in combat. One of these days I should turn it off... --- Grismar.net

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