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Hollismason
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.10 02:54:00 -
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Edited by: Hollismason on 10/08/2007 02:57:41 Having just recently come out of the closet myself, I was wondering if there were first any *** specific corporations and or groups in Eve Online. Many have seen the signatures of the *** patrol in goonfleet the white banner ads.
I was just wondering first why is *** filtered out because it kind of sucks to have to talk about your orientation in asterisks and other forms.
Also, in almost all of the eve literature there is a disturbing lack of sexuality or even discussion of it. Even under things such as the uber religous Ammar etc..
I think sexuality really defines us as people and how we play the game, I am more of a free flighty spirit, but honestly I'd like to know what kind of support CCP gives to the *** and ******* community we don't even have a subforum.
I think I would like to meet other homosexuals in eve and chat with them, possibly create a channel to serve our interests. Anyway any other ideas are welcome. It was my boyfriend who in fact got me to join eve well ex he switched to wow and I never saw him I guess he loved the purple ;), but that's not here or there. Luckily as a goon I have a good decent community with in goonfleet and while the general membership dotes on "faggotry" even though that is filtered, there is a small collection of homosexual members of goonfleet and transgendered individuals as well.
Anyway let me know of your interests.
Oh and just by example****gotry is not filtered so a connotation with negative implications is okay but me saying I am *** is not? Or for the reverse if I was a woman who was a homosexual or a *******. Why is that even filtered out I just noticed that.
There is no reason to filter out ******* at all, that is just ********. I could possibly see the reason for *** but *******. Yes men get very angry when there buddies chant around them ******* ******* *******.
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Malarki Cheddar
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:03:00 -
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Your sexuality defines how you play the game...keep your fetishes to yourself.
You don't need support, you need to stop expecting pandering just because you feel you have special needs.
CCP doesn't show support for the straight community either so why should they sway the other way to show support? Leave it be and keep the game a game.
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:05:00 -
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Edited by: Curzon Dax on 10/08/2007 03:07:31
Originally by: Malarki Cheddar Your sexuality defines how you play the game...keep your fetishes to yourself.
You don't need support, you need to stop expecting pandering just because you feel you have special needs.
CCP doesn't show support for the straight community either so why should they sway the other way to show support? Leave it be and keep the game a game.
*signed*
Sexuality isn't a part of Eve, its part of your real life. Please don't confuse the two.
And there's a difference between homosexual and attention w***e. Don't slander the former by being the latter pretending to be the former, neh?
*EDIT* And the justification for the last statement...
You're in goonswarm. There's not a greater collection of childish, homophobic pilots in the galaxy. Homosexuals don't waltz into southern baptist churches and scream "HEY! WHERE'S THE *** SECTION!?!?"
Same thing friend.
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Hollismason
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:07:00 -
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Oh I'm sorry did I step into a forum where out of game discussion was not allowed. Let's see CCP word filters the way I describe myself and my "brethren" can't even openly say " I am a *******".
Also, most of the literature when even mentioning couples it is always a Heterosexual couple. It doesnt even reflect a accurate potrayal of today's society.
I'm not asking for special treatment ,but I would like it if ******* was not word filtered that is pretty ridiculous. How is that even remotely a insult or derogatory term. It's pretty obvious that straight men are what the game caters too but I think CCP should realze that alot of their "straight" males may not be so straight and they should let their literature reflect that.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Hollismason
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THANK YOU JESUS. \o/ I take back all the bad stuff I said about you.
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:12:00 -
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Edited by: Curzon Dax on 10/08/2007 03:12:26
Originally by: Hollismason Oh I'm sorry did I step into a forum where out of game discussion was not allowed. Let's see CCP word filters the way I describe myself and my "brethren" can't even openly say " I am a *******".
Also, most of the literature when even mentioning couples it is always a Heterosexual couple. It doesnt even reflect a accurate potrayal of today's society.
I'm not asking for special treatment ,but I would like it if ******* was not word filtered that is pretty ridiculous. How is that even remotely a insult or derogatory term. It's pretty obvious that straight men are what the game caters too but I think CCP should realze that alot of their "straight" males may not be so straight and they should let their literature reflect that.
Hey bud.
Homosexual.
Its not filtered. =)
The literature is mostly fan-written. If there's a lack of homosexual content in it, well....you can garner what you will from that.
But if you believe that HOMOSEXUAL literature would benefit the homosexual community, feel free to say homosexual all you like. Homosexual. Homosexual? None of that got filtered - its not used in a derogatory fashion.
Poo isn't filtered out either. But if I try saying sh*t, it would get bleeped out. Same thing. The forums are rated PG-13, and when words are deemed inappropriate for a certain audience, they get bleeped out. Want to petition / rally support for something useful?
How about the name of a male rooster? A*****? See? Filtered out. This is a space game, and we can't even say*****pit. That is, ****pit.
*EDIT* ****pit gets filtered out now too. c.o.ckpit.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Hollismason Edited by: Hollismason on 10/08/2007 02:57:41 Having just recently come out of the closet myself, I was wondering if there were first any *** specific corporations and or groups in Eve Online. Many have seen the signatures of the *** patrol in goonfleet the white banner ads.
I seem ro recall a *** oriented corp some time ago but for the life of me I cannot remember who it was or if they still exist.
Quote: I was just wondering first why is *** filtered out because it kind of sucks to have to talk about your orientation in asterisks and other forms.
The word filter on the forums is a bit over zealous IMO. But I guess CCP views certain words as having too much potential for causing trouble by being used in certain ways despite the word quite possibly having many perfectly normal meanings. I mean cr-ck is filtered...go figure . Their forum, their rules I guess.
[quot]Also, in almost all of the eve literature there is a disturbing lack of sexuality or even discussion of it. Even under things such as the uber religous Ammar etc..
Why would you expect CCP to go there? This is a game. Sexuality has little to do with it and there is too much potential to misstep and **** off some group or other. I am not surprised they steer clear. It would add little to the gaming universe and has potential for trouble for them.
Quote: I think sexuality really defines us as people and how we play the game, I am more of a free flighty spirit, but honestly I'd like to know what kind of support CCP gives to the *** and ******* community we don't even have a subforum.
I do not see how your sexuality defines how you play a game TBH. All sorts of people of all different races and religions and creeds and sexual backgrounds and anything else you can think of play EVE. It has very little to do with how you play the game. Each person is an anonymous individual and you get to like them (or not) based on their character. Actually rather nice I think. No sense in getting hung up on other extraneous issues.
Quote: I think I would like to meet other homosexuals in eve and chat with them, possibly create a channel to serve our interests. Anyway any other ideas are welcome. It was my boyfriend who in fact got me to join eve well ex he switched to wow and I never saw him I guess he loved the purple ;), but that's not here or there. Luckily as a goon I have a good decent community with in goonfleet and while the general membership dotes on "faggotry" even though that is filtered, there is a small collection of homosexual members of goonfleet and transgendered individuals as well.
I am certian you could create an in-game channel for anything you like. See how it goes. Or start your own corp and accept members under whatever guise you like. Seems odd to exclude heterosexuals for the same reason it'd be bogus for a corp to exclude homosexuals but whatever...do it your way if that is what you want.
On the whole I find the EVE community to be pretty adult and open minded. Even without a dedicated homosexual corporation I think you'd get on fine in EVE most times.
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Hollismason
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:13:00 -
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It's pretty dumb that you can't say I am *** or I am a *******. My main problem is the fact that ******* is filtered. Why would that be filtered?
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:14:00 -
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Send an in-game mail to Backdoor Bandit. I'm sure he could use some company. :)
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:16:00 -
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I'm not sure why ******* is filtered, or why *** or ***** is filtered, frankly, I think ***** is ****** about **** what *** ********* can ****** pretty much think ******** about ***** ******** *** ********* and *******.
Now, just imagine if ******* were the ***** of ****** you ***** *******.
Pretty deep eh?
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Ixianus
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:16:00 -
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Edited by: Ixianus on 10/08/2007 03:16:59 "Sexuality isnt a part of the game."
"Lets get some exotic dancers." .... Right.
Sexuality is a part of the game Im afraid. There is no heterosexual support by the way, because its assumed that the vast majority of people are heterosexual, therefore the rule system innately supports heterosexuals. Honestly, why is it that every time something about ***s come up the "goon squad" shows up to say how ***s are this, that, and everything in between.
Amarr is anti***, Gallente **** anything with eyes, Minmatar are probably have high unwed mother percentages, Caldari probably have the most "conventional" type of relationships going on.
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smashsmash
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:16:00 -
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sexuality IS part of the game. people joke about raping each other and peeing in people's butts all the time in local. when it comes out that a girl character is really a girl hormones start spraying everywhere.
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: smashsmash sexuality IS part of the game. people joke about raping each other and peeing in people's butts all the time in local. when it comes out that a girl character is really a girl hormones start spraying everywhere.
And by hormones, he means *******.
Sorry, I'm having too much fun with this thread.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Hollismason It's pretty dumb that you can't say I am *** or I am a *******. My main problem is the fact that ******* is filtered. Why would that be filtered?
Because your sexual choices are not the concern of this forum community, and CCP makes this very clear by making it difficult for you to convey said choices to others of like or unlike mind. These forums are rated T for teen, and there is nothing teen about sex; preference, position or otherwise.
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Hollismason
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:23:00 -
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Uh, saying someones sexuality is not reflected in other aspects of their life is pretty dumb. Secondly, saying this is a "teen" game is not true. While it may be rated teen because it does not depict violent acts the reason it was probably rated teen was because its content can be "adult".
I also don't think that sexuality is something best left for Adults. That's dumb so what you are saying is a teenager cannot decide on his sexuality? Jeez I guess what we should do is just have everyone when they turn 18 sit down in a room and discuss whether they want to be *** or straight.
Also, saying *******s should be filtered is kind of dumb, its the main identifier, *******s generally refer to themselves as *******s not homosexuals. In fact you often see the phrase Homosexual and ******* why because generally homosexual has a masculine connotation.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: Hollismason Also, saying *******s should be filtered is kind of dumb, its the main identifier, *******s generally refer to themselves as *******s not homosexuals. In fact you often see the phrase Homosexual and ******* why because generally homosexual has a masculine connotation.
"Homosexual" does not have a masculine connotation. It is gender neutral and if you think it is masculine that's your own mistake. I usually see it phrased as ***/*******.
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Hollismason
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:32:00 -
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When someone says " He is a homosexual" versus " She is a *******" in the vernacular it is masculine or has masculine conotations the common usage of "Jill is a *******" versus "Jill is a homosexual"
Regardless because ******* is gender specific, people generally use homosexual to describe men and ******* to describe women.
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Hollismason Uh, saying someones sexuality is not reflected in other aspects of their life is pretty dumb. Secondly, saying this is a "teen" game is not true. While it may be rated teen because it does not depict violent acts the reason it was probably rated teen was because its content can be "adult".
No, actually you choose to bring sexuality into whatever you take part in. As for the "Teen" rating of these forums, its not something you negotiate, as its written in the Mod handbook as law. Last I checked, Mods > you when it comes to saying whats what.
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I also don't think that sexuality is something best left for Adults. That's dumb so what you are saying is a teenager cannot decide on his sexuality? Jeez I guess what we should do is just have everyone when they turn 18 sit down in a room and discuss whether they want to be *** or straight.
Uh huh, lets get those 13 y/o's on the pill and start handing out condoms at the pre-teen dances too genius. Its people of opinions like this that make our world a worse place to live in; sex is a fun indoor sport - for adults. As for the last part of your comment, perhaps if you parents discussed how embarassed they were of your first choice before you made it, you'd have thought twice?
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Also, saying *******s should be filtered is kind of dumb, its the main identifier, *******s generally refer to themselves as *******s not homosexuals. In fact you often see the phrase Homosexual and ******* why because generally homosexual has a masculine connotation.
***** is also filter, but vagina is not. Both are parts of the anatomy, and the only error that CCP has taken part in is not bleeping out the latter. There is no place for such discussions here or anywhere related to EVE. What you do with your funtackle in the pivacy of your own home is none of my business, to the point I don't want to hear about it if you're in the mood for a chat.
The one thing I DON'T want EVE to become is just another haven of limp wristed, spoon-fed ninnies with special rules for all the minority groups demanding their right to do whatever the hell they want. EVE is for gank and spank of ships and other destructibles, if this does not interest you, perhaps you don't belong in EVE?
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Originally by: Hollismason It's pretty dumb that you can't say I am *** or I am a *******. My main problem is the fact that ******* is filtered. Why would that be filtered?
Because your sexual choices are not the concern of this forum community, and CCP makes this very clear by making it difficult for you to convey said choices to others of like or unlike mind. These forums are rated T for teen, and there is nothing teen about sex; preference, position or otherwise.
Actually, this sums it up better than I could have.
Hollis, understand that these forums are rated PG-13. Sexual content is inappropriate for the age group deemed to be reading and accessing these forums. There is nothing overtly sexual in any Eve content; exotic dancers are an item in game; as are slaves. Both serve a role playing purpose. If you feel that you're lacking roleplaying ability, use some slaves.
CCP has catered to you on this one - there's no female slaves.
Honestly though, certain things don't really belong in the Eve forums; generally speaking: Politics, religion, sex, and drug use.
I repeat: certain things don't really belong in the Eve forums; generally speaking: Politics, religion, sex, and drug use.
PG-13, just remember that.
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
limp wristed, spoon-fed ninnies with special rules for all the minority groups demanding their right to do whatever the hell they want.
Continuing on the note of equality, if we're going to have sexual / homosexual discussion equality, there are some other things that need to be implemented.
-Female slaves -Black slaves (not just white please!) -Jewish added to the listing of choosable races. -Some other things too.
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Ixianus
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Posted - 2007.08.10 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax
I repeat: certain things don't really belong in the Eve forums; generally speaking: Politics, religion, sex, and drug use.
Right. Drug use - Alcohol is a drug last time I checked. Religion - Lets not talk about all the comparisons to modern religious institutions vs. the Amarr and such. Sex - Only when you lot show up with your prudish attitude toward homosexuals, but not heterosexuals (My wife/girlfriend/potential lay threads vs. Anything ***). And politics, well, they try to keep that off, but not always with the greatest success.
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Soren
PAK
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Posted - 2007.08.10 04:08:00 -
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Edited by: Soren on 10/08/2007 04:08:27 They outlaw homos in the future... duh.. ☠-->-->--
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Vina
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.10 04:13:00 -
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I hope they KOS you in amarr empire space for being a homo. -----------------------------------
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Rilder
Caldari THC LTD
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Posted - 2007.08.10 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax
-Jewish added to the listing of choosable races. -Some other things too.
Theres only really 2 Confirmed religions in EvE and they don't seem that close to Real life religions except maybe the Amarr.
The Amarrian monotheistic religion, and the Minmatars "Native american-like" religion.
I don't even think Judieism(SP?), Islam, Paganism, or any of the 20-thousand Christian religions made it into the EvE universe or molded into the current religions that you find in EvE.
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.10 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: Soren Edited by: Soren on 10/08/2007 04:08:27 They outlaw homos in the future... duh..
I disagree.
Sexual preference is genetic right? In the far distant future that is Eve, I presume that they've perfected genetic engineering. Which is why there are none.
Although, there's a gaping hole in that argument to explain the Gallente....
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Soren
PAK
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Posted - 2007.08.10 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax
Originally by: Soren Edited by: Soren on 10/08/2007 04:08:27 They outlaw homos in the future... duh..
I disagree.
Sexual preference is genetic right? In the far distant future that is Eve, I presume that they've perfected genetic engineering. Which is why there are none.
Although, there's a gaping hole in that argument to explain the Gallente....
I was sorta thinking that.. maybe not genetic engineering... but at birth they'll be able to tell if the kid will be ***.. death to homos? ☠-->-->--
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.08.10 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax
Originally by: Soren Edited by: Soren on 10/08/2007 04:08:27 They outlaw homos in the future... duh..
I disagree.
Sexual preference is genetic right? In the far distant future that is Eve, I presume that they've perfected genetic engineering. Which is why there are none.
Although, there's a gaping hole in that argument to explain the Gallente....
As I understand it, there is much debate about genetics of homosexuality; the most obvious arguement against this notion is the perplexity behind passing on a recessive trait that only manefests itself in people who don't reproduce. Such a trait would not last more than a few generations, and our species has been around for a few hundred thousand generations or so.
And any self-respecting geneticist would remove such behaviour modifying genes from our toon's clone anyways... Or perhaps thats the one gene the Joves forgot to remove! Look at them now!
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Dau Imperius
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.08.10 05:08:00 -
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Good gods. I'm sick of people bringing RL race, religion, sexuality, politics, whatever into a game.
Don't we have better things to do, like complain that most Gallente are sex and drug addict tools, Minmatars are black slaves, Caldari are socialists to the extreme, and Amarr are white supremecists? Do'h. Nevermind. (That's a joke people)
Anyways, you're a gamer. I don't give a rats arse what your RL preferences are. Just play the game. This is set in a far off dark future where we're not really caring about being PC. I'm Amarr, and my god is dead to me, and slavery is evil. And I'm not a poofta. That sums up my character, and that's all you should be worrying about perhaps. It doesn't define him, and it's not going to change the game (unfortunetly).
Now if you're concered with stories, I'd sugggest submitting some to CCP for review. Don't turn them into slash fiction, for the love of all that doesn't make my eyes bleed, but put your two isk in, if you feel something is left out. Just remember to keep the EVE feeling alive. Creepy, dark, moody, not always a bright-side.
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Lady Evang
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Posted - 2007.08.10 05:13:00 -
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I find this to be extremely disturbing. You can say every curse word and it's not asterisked out. You can use racial slurs and stereotypical terms and your not asterisked out. What about the people who use blasphemy?Yet when someone is comfortable enough in there own skin to openly admit that he or she is g*a*y they are shunned? Come on it is the year 2007 grow the **** up people. Either block it all or block non, it is childish and your acting like you're in grade school all over again!
-Lady Evang
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Daedalus DuGalle
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2007.08.10 05:20:00 -
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IN BEFORE BACKDOOR BANDIT!!!!!
Originally by: Janu Hull Nothing says gritty cynicism like a 1 ISK note wedged between a pair of silicone enhanced knockers.
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