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Shari Vegas
Minmatar
Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.08.21 18:37:00 -
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Right, so, with Electronics V and Weapon Upgrades V, I still find myself lacking just a bit of CPU to fit the 4 T2 hardeners to replace my named T1s with.
Setup is as follows:
Highs:
6x Republic Fleet Cruise Missile Launcher
1x Heavy Diminishing Power Drain System I
1x E500 Prototype Energy Vampire
Mids:
1x X-Large Shield Booster II
1x Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier
4x Hardeners
Lows:
2x Ballistic Control System II
1x F85 Peripheral Damage System I
2x Power Diagnostic System II
Is there some skill I'm missing that would reduce some more CPU from some of these modules?
Any other suggestions at fitting the mids?
 Originally by: CCP Wrangler
I have no clue.
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WildSide
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.08.21 18:40:00 -
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tryed cpu implants? and isnt 4 hardneners a bit overkill?
a good while since I flyed a raven on my alt though...so i dont remeber correctly.
Cant remeber I had any issues on my setup as long as I used cruisers and not torps.
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CherylAnne
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Posted - 2007.08.21 18:51:00 -
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With my skills I'm coming out only 11.5cpu short.
Pick one:
1. replace the BCS IIs with faction.
2. replace the Booster with Gist or faction.
3. Drop a Nos
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FT Diomedes
Gallente
Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2007.08.21 18:55:00 -
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You could always get a hardwiring for more CPU.
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Shari Vegas
Minmatar
Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.08.21 18:56:00 -
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I could replace one hardener with either a Cap Recharger II or a Target Painter...
I suppose that 4th hardener doesn't make a ton of difference looking at it.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
I have no clue.
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LiBraga
Corp 1 Allstars
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.21 18:57:00 -
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To free up more CPU how about skilling
Energy Grid Upgrades
Reduces the cpu needed by Power Diags etc by 5% per level
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What! Caldari have dps now... noooo
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Elrich Zann
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
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Posted - 2007.08.21 19:41:00 -
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Well you don't say how much cpu you're lacking but:
1) use 2 heavy dim nos, that saves 3 cpu
2) Swap to faction BCU's (domination are as good as t2, with better fitting reqts - obviously dg is best)
3) Drop the DG SBA and go with one of the named - cpu saved depends
That is why people switch to faction items on mission ravens, cpu savings. The raven has a tight cpu for a missile/shield tanking ship, but you can make it fit.
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Shari Vegas
Minmatar
Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.08.21 19:48:00 -
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Total CPU needed would be I think 17.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
I have no clue.
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Air Raven
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Posted - 2007.08.21 19:57:00 -
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What hardeners do u use? 4 different? Because if u fit 2 of same kind i think it¦s better to fit 1 passive and 1 aktive then 2 aktive ones.
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FT Diomedes
Gallente
Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Air Raven
What hardeners do u use? 4 different? Because if u fit 2 of same kind i think it¦s better to fit 1 passive and 1 aktive then 2 aktive ones.
How is it better? It gives less resistance, but would save you some CPU (and cap).
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trivit
Caldari
Shadow Command
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:27:00 -
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I've had to overcome this same problem recently. You have a few options. To save the most cpu, get a faction booster, will cost you mucho isk for a good one... over a bil easy. One great way that isn't too spendy is to get caldari navy ballistic controls. Another way is faction power diags. I wound up with 2 caldari navy ballistic controls, 1 dark blood power diag and 2 T2 power diags. I also use minimum of dread hardeners (same as T2 less cpu). Get pith or gist if isk permits.
Best advice on this is the slot 6 cpu hardwiring (not the hardwiring for launcher cpu). This give you 3 or 5% depending on which one to your ships cpu. you can get the 3% pretty cheap from your LP store and it makes a whopper of a difference. You can use this till you can afford all the spendy faction gear then replace it with something more useful down the road when you have the cpu to spare again.
There is my $0.02. Good luck!!
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skiersteve
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:19:00 -
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if you are running caldari navy missions you will be able to easily pick up some CN hardeners. They are really cheap, like 10k lp. In less than a week you can pick up 6 of them. 2x kin 2x therm 2x em, and that will drop your cpu considerably, 56cpu in best case scenario where you use 4x of them. I use about the same setup as you just in a CNR
7x Arby Cruise
1x Heavy Diminishing
1x CN XL Shield Booster
1x 'Stalwart' Shield Boost amp
4x CN Hardeners
3x BCS II
2x PDS II
In the CNR i have almost 100 cpu free, im at like 810/900 or something like that. I dont even have weapon upgrades V.
Its all about those cheap faction hardeners. I'll be upgrading to all CN launchers, 2 CN BCS's and then a gist booster whenever i get the cash/lp.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:26:00 -
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If your raven doesn't need a co-processor, you're doing something wrong.
Errr. That's about all there is to it. Faction pimp is your alternative.
CN ballistic controls, hardeners and shield boosters are noticably easier on fittings. And CN XL boosters aren't quite as insane price as Gistii, because they're only a little better than T2 (same efficiency, faster cycle, easier fit).
Or, drop a hardener for a cap recharger, since that doesn't actually hurt your tank all that much - more cap recharge, means more shield boosting - it looks like yours isn't going to be sustainable.
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skiersteve
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:34:00 -
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screw co processor, seriously that is a terrible way to solve the problem. It doesn't solve it, it covers it up.
Im sitting at 810.6/900 cpu with that setup. One could replace all the arby launchers with Tech2 ones and still have CPU left over. If you don't want to spend the cash on the CN XL booster, just use a tech1 booster. C5-L or Clarity Ward booster saves you boatloads of cpu. The loss in boosting is minimal, although I do recommend the CN XL Booster.
I have 3 CCC rigs on it as well I forgot to mention. The tank is based on resistance, you dont have to run the booster much. With cap skills, 3 CCCs and two PDS2's... the cap is fine, on hard missions switch a BCS for another PDS2 and you are fine.
Switch the three BCS2s to CN BCS and you gain a bit more damage, and save 48 more cpu.... they arnt that expensive and you are at 762.6 cpu / 900... plenty of room to work with...
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Shari Vegas
Minmatar
Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.08.24 19:34:00 -
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Alright, my easily accessible options are as follows:
Invest in 2x Republic Fleet Ballistic Control Units (That's where all my LP are)
Stick to 3x T2 Hardeners and a Cap Recharger
Opinions, and why?
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
I have no clue.
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Synapse X
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.24 19:52:00 -
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Do what I did, get a CNR and a 5% cpu implant, 945 cpu available. :p
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Delelia
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Posted - 2007.08.24 22:12:00 -
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That would work, but if you can afford one there are plenty better things to do with the money.
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Shari Vegas
Minmatar
Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.08.24 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Synapse X
Do what I did, get a CNR and a 5% cpu implant, 945 cpu available. :p
I could, but not worth it. I do missions just fine in my current ship.
Just looking for feedback on the two above options.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
I have no clue.
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Shari Vegas
Minmatar
Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.08.25 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
I have no clue.
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Testosterone Bomb
Red Ballz
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Posted - 2007.08.25 16:38:00 -
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A few some what easy ways to get the CPU you need
replace the X-Large Shield Booster II with a Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
(Savings 60 CPU)
replace the 4 hardeners with Caldari Faction hardeners
(Savings 14 CPU each)
Originally by: Shari Vegas
Right, so, with Electronics V and Weapon Upgrades V, I still find myself lacking just a bit of CPU to fit the 4 T2 hardeners to replace my named T1s with.
Setup is as follows:
Highs:
6x Republic Fleet Cruise Missile Launcher
1x Heavy Diminishing Power Drain System I
1x E500 Prototype Energy Vampire
Mids:
1x X-Large Shield Booster II
1x Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier
4x Hardeners
Lows:
2x Ballistic Control System II
1x F85 Peripheral Damage System I
2x Power Diagnostic System II
Is there some skill I'm missing that would reduce some more CPU from some of these modules?
Any other suggestions at fitting the mids?
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Lazuran
Gallente
Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.25 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Shari Vegas
Right, so, with Electronics V and Weapon Upgrades V, I still find myself lacking just a bit of CPU to fit the 4 T2 hardeners to replace my named T1s with.
Setup is as follows:
Highs:
6x Republic Fleet Cruise Missile Launcher
1x Heavy Diminishing Power Drain System I
1x E500 Prototype Energy Vampire
Mids:
1x X-Large Shield Booster II
1x Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier
4x Hardeners
Lows:
2x Ballistic Control System II
1x F85 Peripheral Damage System I
2x Power Diagnostic System II
Is there some skill I'm missing that would reduce some more CPU from some of these modules?
Any other suggestions at fitting the mids?
Way to reduce CPU apart from those already mentioned:
* PDU2 => best named
* DG SBA => domination SBA (yes, it's worse)
* X-Large booster II => Republic Fleet XL booster (-60 CPU)
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Captain Schmungles
Caldari
Freelancing Corp
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.08.25 18:18:00 -
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First, why are you using four hardeners? Your base explosive resist is 60%, and you get a bonus to that from the damage control (which, by the way, you should really try to upgrade to a t2 mod). Unless you're running an Angel mission, it's really not necessary to use an explosive hardener.
Second, Dread Guristas mods do have lower cpu requirements than their t2 counterparts. See if you can't find a Dread Guristas Xl booster and a set of Dread Guristas hardeners at a decent price. The dread booster also has a faster boost cycle than a t2 mod, so it's a definite plus for a raven tank.
Third, I have to assume that your energy grid upgrade and shield upgrade skills are up to par, but if you're really thin on cpu those skills will help, especially energy grid upgrades. Also, I believe that nosses have their own skill that reduces their cpu requirements, so you should look into that as well.
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skiersteve
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Posted - 2007.08.28 19:54:00 -
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When did he say he was using an explosive hardener? Running guristas missions with 2x kin 2x therm you are looking at 86% kinetic and 82% thermal resistance, meaning there has to be a large amount of dps on you to even have to use your booster very often.
This isnt a PVP setup where u try to raise all your resists, its for missioning where you know what to harden against before you ever go
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