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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2004.02.06 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Shadowthrone on 06/02/2004 00:11:43
Whilst pirate hunting in the PF346/FDMLJ region of Syndicate over the past two weeks, Celestial Apocalypse had some encounters with the Curse Alliance corporation Spartan Industrial Manufacturing [ SIM ]. SIM have been gate camping with pirate corporations such as COW and SPVD.
Having being attacked by SIM we assumed that they were pirates. Celestial Apocalypse has enjoyed some skirmishes in the region with SIM with 3 confirmed BS kills for us and 2 for them.
We assumed that other CA corporations in the region where pirating and have had some engagements with the corporation called P.O.D who have some members with negative security and bounties.
However Celestial has subsequently been contacted by Curse Alliance diplomats with claims that Curse Alliance DOES NOT condone acts of piracy and requested that we do not attack CA ships in the future. Tivian from Black Omega Security has briefed us on this matter and convinced us that SIM have gone rogue and are acting alone.
For the benefit of honourable corporations in the Curse Alliance, we declare that we have no hostile intentions to the Curse Alliance, and as member of the Phoenix Alliance we will respect the official neutrality. This will not apply to SIM.
War has been declared on Celestial Apocalypse by P.O.D. as a result of these recent hostilities and as a combat corporation we will purse this war to its fullest regardless on the status of P.O.D and piracy.
Celestial Apocalypse will continue to hunt pirates regardless of where they hide as we always have.
Celes Kill Board
"Show them no mercy, for you will receive none"
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.02.06 00:40:00 -
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YAY!!
Go Celest, Go Celest!!
Kick some arse guys, i'll smoke you a kipper for breakfast 
dbp
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.06 00:47:00 -
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But SIM, c0w, m0o et al only defend gates they have lawfully claimed.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.06 00:49:00 -
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"Gone rouge"  
It's not a week since CA last time bragged about p0ma from SIM killing SA haulers.

M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Finderne
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Finderne on 06/02/2004 01:08:48 SIM is 'rogue' Is that like a temporary insanity defense? I'd think either they're in CA or they're not.
I don't think CA bothers too hard to try to whitewash claims that they harbor pirates anymore. Their new playbook seems involve tarring every 0.0 corporation/alliance with the argument that anyone that PVP's or claims a region as some form of piracy. Then they're free to ally with FE or M0o with no worries.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.06 01:11:00 -
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lol. I look fwd to a response from a CA rep on this matter. (doubt will get one though) This will simply be another case of SIM is not in CA due to pirating, till they need to move operations back into curse, then they will "have stopped pirating and are welcome with open arms back into the alliance."
Line is getting old. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.02.06 10:04:00 -
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You might want to ask the PA members that killed CA members doing missions in empire space "because they were KOS" why CA is attacking PA members. Seems some PA corps are looking for a fight and will be getting what they want. while your at it ask the ORS what happens when noobs in Battleships try and fight.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.06 10:08:00 -
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P.O.D are nothing to worry about, Celes.
They declared war on EV, lost a Thorax, and retracted about an hour later.
Funny how a CA corporation engages in pirate activity and is suddenly "rogue" yet EV killed p0ma in Curse last night.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2004.02.06 10:09:00 -
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Edited by: PropanElgen on 06/02/2004 10:15:56 The only difference between socalled "pirate hunters" and pirates are that the pirates have a short friendly-list and a huge hostile-list, while the "pirate hunters" have a huge friendly-list and a short hostile-list. They are all PK'ers. I ROFLMAO when these "holier than thou"-freaks claim otherwise.
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.02.06 11:16:00 -
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sigh...nobody cares...everyone thinks that CA is a pirate alliance anyway, and if u post anymore "proof" it wont matter either... might as well just kill you all.
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Lord Armagon
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Posted - 2004.02.06 11:21:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: PropanElgen on 06/02/2004 10:15:56 The only difference between socalled "pirate hunters" and pirates are that the pirates have a short friendly-list and a huge hostile-list, while the "pirate hunters" have a huge friendly-list and a short hostile-list. They are all PK'ers. I ROFLMAO when these "holier than thou"-freaks claim otherwise.
what a bad comparing, you could also say there is no diference between a cerebear and a pk'er. We are all gamers....
Of cource there is a diference (with in the game) We play the good guys and you play the bad guys. well not you becouse you just play to ruin for everyone what they have ruin for you before.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.02.06 11:23:00 -
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So have P.O.D. and SIM been booted out of the CA? Or are the CA simply not going to protect them when the celestial giant comes rolling over the hills to disintegrate them?
dbp
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.06 11:24:00 -
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Quote: P.O.D are nothing to worry about, Celes.
They declared war on EV, lost a Thorax, and retracted about an hour later.
Funny how a CA corporation engages in pirate activity and is suddenly "rogue" yet EV killed p0ma in Curse last night.
Its no problem, we look forward to fighting, the more wars we have the better, but we will follow PA NAPs or orders.
We only hunt pirates, but any corp firing on us will be legit targets, untill an apology is given.
Blowing things up is fun.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2004.02.06 11:34:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Edited by: PropanElgen on 06/02/2004 10:15:56 The only difference between socalled "pirate hunters" and pirates are that the pirates have a short friendly-list and a huge hostile-list, while the "pirate hunters" have a huge friendly-list and a short hostile-list. They are all PK'ers. I ROFLMAO when these "holier than thou"-freaks claim otherwise.
what a bad comparing, you could also say there is no diference between a cerebear and a pk'er. We are all gamers....
Of cource there is a diference (with in the game) We play the good guys and you play the bad guys. well not you becouse you just play to ruin for everyone what they have ruin for you before.
So you basically didnt understand what I said. PK = PlayerKiller. You kill players, with the list of hostiles being pirates. We kill players, with the list of hostiles being anyone not on our friendly-list.
At least Dork Solo is more honest about this than you are...
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Lord Armagon
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Posted - 2004.02.06 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Armagon on 06/02/2004 11:42:12
Quote:
Quote:
Quote: Edited by: PropanElgen on 06/02/2004 10:15:56 The only difference between socalled "pirate hunters" and pirates are that the pirates have a short friendly-list and a huge hostile-list, while the "pirate hunters" have a huge friendly-list and a short hostile-list. They are all PK'ers. I ROFLMAO when these "holier than thou"-freaks claim otherwise.
what a bad comparing, you could also say there is no diference between a cerebear and a pk'er. We are all gamers....
Of cource there is a diference (with in the game) We play the good guys and you play the bad guys. well not you becouse you just play to ruin for everyone what they have ruin for you before.
So you basically didnt understand what I said. PK = PlayerKiller. You kill players, with the list of hostiles being pirates. We kill players, with the list of hostiles being anyone not on our friendly-list.
At least Dork Solo is more honest about this than you are...
HAve nothing to do with honnest or not. Everyone that are standing while peeing and past 4 years know that both pirate hunters and pirates PK (yes i know what PK stands for)
The diference between pirates and pirate hunters are more then your FoF lists. This is not counter strike (thank god) so the defenitions are a bit broader then Terorists vs counter terorists. We play the good guys , you play the bad guys. Thats one more diference for you, and im sure there are many morem, if you dug a bit deeper.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.02.06 11:42:00 -
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heh u realy think ur the good guys? heh...
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Lord Armagon
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Posted - 2004.02.06 11:44:00 -
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Quote: heh u realy think ur the good guys? heh...
Both me and lady Beeblebrox know we are. If not we would had much more fun atm....
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.02.06 11:45:00 -
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Quote: heh u realy think ur the good guys? heh...
Well it is getting more interesting when it comes to m0o really. When you go after alliances instead of gate camping and ganking n00bs then I would call you freedom fighters. It's just a pity you revert back to pirates now and again ;)
dbp
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.06 11:58:00 -
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Shadowthrone, care to comment on the fact Celestial Apocalypse is hanging with EVOL in PF-346 camping the gate to Orvolle shooting everyone as well? You guys were shooting at others aside from my noob spy and had other 'innocent bystanders' blockaded in PF-346.
Hi pot, meet kettle. ------
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.02.06 11:59:00 -
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Preacher, we shoot at everyone by default - chaotic warrior corporations tend to do that...actualy come to think of it we are one of a kind...what do you know!
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.02.06 12:05:00 -
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Quote: Preacher, we shoot at everyone by default - chaotic warrior corporations tend to do that...actualy come to think of it we are one of a kind...what do you know!
Yeah, that's a fair point and m0o are definitely going more down that route than before, it's just hard to wipe out 6 months of bad vibes from gate pirating with a couple of romps into alliance space. 
dbp
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.06 12:06:00 -
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Quote: heh u realy think ur the good guys? heh...
Nope, I'm not a good guy.
But not as bad as you are.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.02.06 12:10:00 -
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Edited by: Miso on 06/02/2004 12:11:02 Wow, for all the swaggering and pretense of being ingame hard men, you guys certainly do alot of catty *****ing... its like a Sharon's night out in here 
bacardi breezer anyone? -------------------------------------------- Dead
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semp
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Posted - 2004.02.06 12:14:00 -
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Shadowthrone, welcome to the war :)
For a start and just to makes things easy, ALL the CA corps are either pirate corps or are happy to support pirates but more on this later. We've been blowing these fools up since this whole sorry Alliance was assembled and there not to be trusted or belived.
As for hunting this scum, please feel free to get in touch in-game and we will be more than happy to give you guys intel on where they can be found, or better yet you can come and pop some hulls with us 
And to the CA i would say this, if indeed SIM is 'rogue' then here is a little tip for you if you EVER want to gain the respect of you enemies....KICK THEM OUT OF THE CA.....if you dont then see my opening point, can someone please pass me the crayons.
Semp
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.06 12:31:00 -
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Edited by: darth solo on 06/02/2004 12:34:42 Ok, lets clear some things up.
[CELES] are all PVPers, we enjoy killing things, we decided a while back, due to the ammount of pirates in the game, that making a large bounty/pirate hunting corp would be fun.
We thought, fighting pirates would give us a good challenge, as they are usually good at PVP and are well organised, we wrisk our ships every night, and do have alot of fun.
Our kill ratio to deaths, is VERY good, it runs into billions of ISK(even though i did just lose my tempest ).
the problem seems to be that folks think they can lock us in 0.0, or can talk crap to us, just because we are pirate hunters, and wont kill them, it isnt the case.
P O D, making war with us is rather amusing, we welcome it, saves us using war slots.
d solo.
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Kram Calama
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Posted - 2004.02.06 12:41:00 -
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Looks like I left Celest just at the right time..............DOH! 
Oh well, I suppose you live and learn. 
Anyway, good luck guys and 'ave it large! 
Station camping, ship jamming, forum spamming, milk drinking, deep thinking, gooner loving, goat hugging, pirate killer............AVE IT LARGE!!!! |

darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.06 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: darth solo on 06/02/2004 13:04:31
Quote: Shadowthrone, care to comment on the fact Celestial Apocalypse is hanging with EVOL in PF-346 camping the gate to Orvolle shooting everyone as well? You guys were shooting at others aside from my noob spy and had other 'innocent bystanders' blockaded in PF-346.
Hi pot, meet kettle.
Thats not true, we do kill scout alts, like everyone else , but no1 in a legit corp is ever killed unless they fire on us, or talk smack.
Im sure many will back this up, we try and keep systems rat free.
Everyone but pirates are free to come and go as they wish, as for working with EVOL, news to me.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.02.06 13:07:00 -
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You have our full support Celest.
We also now have a war slot free after recently bringing a very successful war to an end, so feel free to call on us for help although I'm sure you don't need it.
Declare war on Celest lol. That's just stupid  ---
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XeQtR
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Posted - 2004.02.06 13:11:00 -
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Am I understanding this correctly? There are STILL corps out there we're NOT at war with? 
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Smith
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Posted - 2004.02.06 13:34:00 -
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I love all this crap about “I killed more ships than you, look how many billions damage we did”. Reality check here sunshine...it don’t mean crap you soiled schoolgirls panties! CA has been EVE’s punch bag for along time now and its true that there are historical ties with so called piratical corporations, I prefer to called them “the Liberation Freedom Fighters Against the Oppression of the Megalomaniac Tyrannical Alliances other than the CA and Co”(LFFAOMTACAC). But one thing about punch bags is you can only hit them, not knock them down unlike yourselves who will undoubtedly slip up and get a nice royal beating.
Peace and Love
xxx
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.02.06 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: TIvian on 06/02/2004 14:29:08 Edited by: TIvian on 06/02/2004 14:27:50 I was asked by CA Councel Members to be the point of contact on this issue. The way that I was involved happend a couple of days ago when my CEO Lady Pyriel was in Orvall<SP> or 1 jump away had purchased some hybrid damage mods(30 Mill worth) in his cargo hold. he was in a Kestrel LEAVING the area no one was with him. he came alone and was leaving alone. As he approched the gate he saw the battleship that belonged to Celst Apoc and had no reason to believe that this Celest Apoc was hostile. with in a 30 sec Lady was in his pod and away. not because he was left alone to live...his pod was targeted and he got away with his egg on fire. when all was said and done Celest said what was stated in this thread.
CA does not condone ANY pirate activity as defined by us all in this game. Such as Gate Camping and attacking anything and everything not listed as an enemy. Spartan is acting on their own, and are no longer considered CA members and are going to be KOS as of the vote this weekend, What this means as of now that there are no politcal fallouts with Curse Alliance for attacking Spartan at this time.
As for POD. Shadowthrone I asked you to contact me if things had changed, when we last spoke you told me that POD had not fired on any memember of your corporation POD and SIM are 2 different corps. CA has no problem with an Offical war with POD or SIM if they have cause you grief. And I asked you to let me know if POD had indeed been seen piratingn as SIM was. I have not heard back from you on this issue.
I was also told by you that you where going to compensate Lady for damage mods that where lost and I stated to you that Counter Balances where not what we lost, that we have plenty of those since they drop in our area of space. what we lost were Hybrids and Energy mods. I told you the monitary value was and ESTIMATED 26 million ISK. I even said that you did not have to pay the entire amount.
YOU also stated to me that you would Post and apology for your pilot(caught by screenshot) smak talking with Evol while Gate Camping Evol(known Pirates) took down a new to game pilot, and laughing that we are supposed to be pirates.
I have also made every attempt to contact the leaders of Phoenix Alliance on CA/PA current state of affairs and our stance towards each otheres alliances and have not recieved any acknowledgment from PA at all.
As it stands now. Black Omega has not recieved the compensation you promised. nor have we recieved the apology that you also said was forthcoming.
Black Omega Sec Corp had always been an honorable corporation and even our enemys can not say other wise. we have not pirated. we do not engage in pirate activity. to assume that just because we live on a block where bullies and thugs such as SIM live does not mean that you attack everyone that lives on this block.
I blame you Shadowthrone and the Leaders of PA for your lack of communication in this matter. YOU and the LEADERS of PA should have contacted us(CA) the very minute that you suspected ANY CA corporation of being pirates and because of your lack of forthought have put both allainces at risk.
I find that Celestail Apoc is a 2 faced corporation and not as honorable as first thought, and that you claim to fight the good fight only to gate camp while know pirates kill inocents.
Black Omega no longer considers you or any Celestail Apoc member "Neutral" and will indeed treat any PA Corporation as hostiles.
I am no longer the point of Contact and all inquerys should be made to the CA leadership or Black Omegas CEO Lady Pyriel.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.02.06 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Einheriar Ulrich on 06/02/2004 14:36:32
Quote: sigh...nobody cares...everyone thinks that CA is a pirate alliance anyway, and if u post anymore "proof" it wont matter either... might as well just kill you all.
  
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.06 14:47:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: TIvian on 06/02/2004 14:29:08 Edited by: TIvian on 06/02/2004 14:27:50
Black Omega no longer considers you or any Celestail Apoc member "Neutral" and will indeed treat any PA Corporation as hostiles.
ack, we tried to make things ok, but u feel that way, bring it on in the game, this role playing/diplomatic crap just ended.
Im not hot headed, but this always having to justify firing on ppl that we think are pirates is starting to become a bore.
I wont speak for the corp, but only for myself when i say this is starting to suck. if things bother u that much, we arnt hard to find.
d solo.
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Lord Armagon
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Posted - 2004.02.06 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Armagon on 06/02/2004 14:51:40 Until my mistress (Lady Beeblebrox) are fired up on by Black Omega, she will not open fire. At the moment someone from your corp _do_ open fire all Black Omega members will be considered hostile and killed on sight.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.02.06 14:50:00 -
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I can say otherwise, your members spam my inbox alot.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:14:00 -
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Quote: Shadowthrone, welcome to the war :)
For a start and just to makes things easy, ALL the CA corps are either pirate corps or are happy to support pirates but more on this later. We've been blowing these fools up since this whole sorry Alliance was assembled and there not to be trusted or belived.
As for hunting this scum, please feel free to get in touch in-game and we will be more than happy to give you guys intel on where they can be found, or better yet you can come and pop some hulls with us 
And to the CA i would say this, if indeed SIM is 'rogue' then here is a little tip for you if you EVER want to gain the respect of you enemies....KICK THEM OUT OF THE CA.....if you dont then see my opening point, can someone please pass me the crayons.
Semp
And there you have it, the time honored tradition of SA/EVOL/Tyrell trying to convince everyone we are the bad guys and trying to convince other people to fight wars for them.
What I understand regarding SIM is that most of their membership left for another corp/alliance. This is second hand info so I'm not sure.
Morever, given Rekuiku's incursions into our space they are naturally to be killed on sight. As for Celestial Apocolypse, they have fought or supported the Evolution Pirate corp, then they should be crushed in the name of Justice.
Don't talk about respecting the official NAP when you hang with our enemies. --------------------------- (c) Copyright Saladin, 2005. Any editing of this post by a third party will be in violation United States Internet Copyright law 46525 of 2003. |

Lord Armagon
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:17:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Shadowthrone, welcome to the war :)
For a start and just to makes things easy, ALL the CA corps are either pirate corps or are happy to support pirates but more on this later. We've been blowing these fools up since this whole sorry Alliance was assembled and there not to be trusted or belived.
As for hunting this scum, please feel free to get in touch in-game and we will be more than happy to give you guys intel on where they can be found, or better yet you can come and pop some hulls with us 
And to the CA i would say this, if indeed SIM is 'rogue' then here is a little tip for you if you EVER want to gain the respect of you enemies....KICK THEM OUT OF THE CA.....if you dont then see my opening point, can someone please pass me the crayons.
Semp
And there you have it, the time honored tradition of SA/EVOL/Tyrell trying to convince everyone we are the bad guys and trying to convince other people to fight wars for them.
What I understand regarding SIM is that most of their membership left for another corp/alliance. This is second hand info so I'm not sure.
Morever, given Rekuiku's incursions into our space they are naturally to be killed on sight. As for Celestial Apocolypse, they have fought or supported the Evolution Pirate corp, then they should be crushed in the name of Justice.
Don't talk about respecting the official NAP when you hang with our enemies.
Perhaps if you could state what corp you speaks for, and if you actualy speeks for your corp. We in Celest could start the hunt on yours as well.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:18:00 -
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I wish I had the ego of these Celestial uber-PVP'ers...

All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:21:00 -
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Quote:
ack, we tried to make things ok, but u feel that way, bring it on in the game, this role playing/diplomatic crap just ended.
Im not hot headed, but this always having to justify firing on ppl that we think are pirates is starting to become a bore.
I wont speak for the corp, but only for myself when i say this is starting to suck. if things bother u that much, we arnt hard to find.
d solo.
The fact that you don't responce on the piracy of one of your members worries me mate, you condone such behaviour? __________________________
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:25:00 -
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Quote:
The fact that you don't responce on the piracy of one of your members worries me mate, you condone such behaviour?
*cough* Curse Alliance *cough*
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:26:00 -
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Quote: As for Celestial Apocolypse, they have fought or supported the Evolution Pirate corp, then they should be crushed in the name of Justice.
Don't talk about respecting the official NAP when you hang with our enemies.
Hmmmmmm ok, so we came to ca and fought you all cuz SINC was an ADMITTED and WELL KNOWN bunch of pirates who had attacked us. We then killed you all for supporting them. That makes us pirates. But it's ok for you?
You are perhaps the biggest hypocrite I have ever had the misfortune to read a post from.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:34:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: Edited by: TIvian on 06/02/2004 14:29:08 Edited by: TIvian on 06/02/2004 14:27:50
Black Omega no longer considers you or any Celestail Apoc member "Neutral" and will indeed treat any PA Corporation as hostiles.
ack, we tried to make things ok, but u feel that way, bring it on in the game, this role playing/diplomatic crap just ended.
Im not hot headed, but this always having to justify firing on ppl that we think are pirates is starting to become a bore.
I wont speak for the corp, but only for myself when i say this is starting to suck. if things bother u that much, we arnt hard to find.
d solo.
You know what Darth I still say your a good guy. and I never said anything about a war. if that is what you and Celest Apoc want then go ahead and a start it. All I said was that we CONSIDER Celestial and all other PA no longer Neutral when by Fed laughing about how he took down my CEO. And your our CEO not following through with the promise of compenstation makes us reconsider how we used to view your corporation. I can only judge by Shadows and Feds actions. and the Fact is this
1 Fed shot down Pyriel with out any provacation or warning.
2 Fed was caught by some one else's screen shot Gate camping with known pirates and laughing and bragging about something that was supposed to be a missunderstanding according to your CEO.
2 Shadowthrone has done nothing about this situation except feed me double speak and lies.
So Darth you know me to be honest and I have always been up front and honest. you know me to be anti pirate as I was going to join your old Corp prior to joining Black Omega. So do you think that I would make this up?
Again,no one said anything about a war. I was trying to contact PA leaders and re-establish open communication to resolve any confusion about CA policys and our stance to the PA but no one seems to care or be botherd to respond to my repeated attemts at communication.
No one said anything about FINDING Celest Apoc to attack. YOUR corp attacked us remember?
And no your corp didnt attempt to make it right.
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:36:00 -
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Bah, CA are pirates..
Really who cares? Just shoot em all Celest, I'll join ya Does that make me a pirate? Oooo do I look like I care?
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:38:00 -
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Quote: Morever, given Rekuiku's incursions into our space they are naturally to be killed on sight.
What exactly does this have to do with Reikoku? We are not part of the PA, Evolution, SA or any other Alliance at this point in time.
Oh and next time you want to challenge information, show us which corp you are in. If you are not prepared to do that, don't expect any courtesy.
dbp
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:38:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: As for Celestial Apocolypse, they have fought or supported the Evolution Pirate corp, then they should be crushed in the name of Justice.
Don't talk about respecting the official NAP when you hang with our enemies.
Hmmmmmm ok, so we came to ca and fought you all cuz SINC was an ADMITTED and WELL KNOWN bunch of pirates who had attacked us. We then killed you all for supporting them. That makes us pirates. But it's ok for you?
You are perhaps the biggest hypocrite I have ever had the misfortune to read a post from.
YOUR corporation was founded on Shrikes pirating up in P3en and Obe. I was there and I saw him and then your boys lit that noob up the other day gate camping. screen was posted.
if it looks like a pirate smells like a pirate.....then?
no one in Curse is was or has been condoned of pirating. Spartan is going to be kicked. and with all democratic Orgs it has to go to a vote. but I already know the out come. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |

TIvian
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:40:00 -
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Quote: Bah, CA are pirates..
Really who cares? Just shoot em all Celest, I'll join ya Does that make me a pirate? Oooo do I look like I care?
Bring it on MR noob no body. I am in H-ADOC.
I will be more then happy to give you a new clone.
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |

Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:41:00 -
[47]
Quote:
Quote: Bah, CA are pirates..
Really who cares? Just shoot em all Celest, I'll join ya Does that make me a pirate? Oooo do I look like I care?
Bring it on MR noob no body. I am in H-ADOC.
I will be more then happy to give you a new clone.
Did you ever accept Homo Erectus' invitation to a 1 vs 1?
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:42:00 -
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propanelgen, FFS, leave me alone..
Dream, we are pirate hunters, but more so, we are PVPers, its why we play the game.
Shadow is the diplomat out of us all, i wouldnt even have bothered about posting about the CA, but again he done the rite thing. TBH, the more targets we have the better. and dream werent u trying to join evolution a while back .
the only folks me and [CELES] answer to are the PA alliance, they say, dont fire on some1 we wont.
shadow thought he would maybe try and sort something out, but it now seems impossible.
im sure [CELES] will relish the fight.
we arnt big headed, and we dont mind dying and losing ships, its all part of the fun, we dont make out we are somthing we arnt, but think you may be a little shocked.
d solo.
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Raven DeBlade
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:42:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: PropanElgen on 06/02/2004 10:15:56 The only difference between socalled "pirate hunters" and pirates are that the pirates have a short friendly-list and a huge hostile-list, while the "pirate hunters" have a huge friendly-list and a short hostile-list. They are all PK'ers. I ROFLMAO when these "holier than thou"-freaks claim otherwise.
You sure arent the sharpest tool in the shed...
"To hunt pirates you need time and patience, because even monkeys fall from the trees"
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Capt Hindgrinder
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Capt Hindgrinder on 06/02/2004 15:45:26 """Hmmmmmm ok, so we came to ca and fought you all cuz SINC was an ADMITTED and WELL KNOWN bunch of pirates who had attacked us. We then killed you all for supporting them. That makes us pirates. But it's ok for you?""" -evolution quote
Killed us all. eh? I seem to remember it as you came and sat in a safe-spot for a week and occasionally tried to engage us when we were outnumbered at least 2-1. I fail to see how you can consider this op a success when we never stopped mining the entire time you were there. During the coarse i lost a tempest and killed 2 SA scorps, several cruisers and a few of your hired "uber frigs". In terms of SIM, it will be dealt with at the next CA council meeting. This is an internal issue and will be addressed at our leisure and not at your demand.
Have a nice day.
C.H. CEO Eve Game Card Co (Inventors of the Integrated Large Canadian Glacier Ice-Water Bong I)
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:43:00 -
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Quote: [
YOUR corporation was founded on Shrikes pirating up in P3en and Obe.
How sad. It is almost to the point of funny. You haven't ANY clue what you are talking about.
Shall we lump this in the same category as your baseless unfounded, and foolish accusations of Shrike being banned from the HW ladder? You do realize that saying that has destroyed any shred of credibility you had left right?
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Friday Dillinja
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:47:00 -
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Quote:
no one in Curse is was or has been condoned of pirating.
That's awesome.
TIvian is my new favorite board poster. The level of pure surrealism makes me wonder if CA wasn't designed as some weird piece of art.
"no one in Curse is was or has been condoned of pirating - and if they were they swore to be good guys and never be pirates again - just like m0o and c0w did. and when we couldnt hide the truth any longer they just 'left' the CA but were still kept as allies on our boards and could sit in our internal channels and our teamspeak. they were of course also welcome to help us fight against enemies we got because we allied the pirates in the first place."
Seriously, comedy gold. 
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Saladin
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:50:00 -
[53]
Quote:
Quote: As for Celestial Apocolypse, they have fought or supported the Evolution Pirate corp, then they should be crushed in the name of Justice.
Don't talk about respecting the official NAP when you hang with our enemies.
Hmmmmmm ok, so we came to ca and fought you all cuz SINC was an ADMITTED and WELL KNOWN bunch of pirates who had attacked us. We then killed you all for supporting them. That makes us pirates. But it's ok for you?
You are perhaps the biggest hypocrite I have ever had the misfortune to read a post from.
What makes you pirates is that you shoot everyone. Your incidents with XIF are well known. You guys go from system to system and region to region causing trouble. Don't call me a hypocryte, I never left Curse and only defended myself and my friends. As for you and your kind, you are like rabid dogs with an insatiable bloodlust.
You guys are Pirates. Sinister after they joined CA stopped being pirates and conducted themselves in an honorable manner. Evolution have always been pirates and never stopped being pirates. Perhaps what sets you apart from other pirates is that you still don't admit you are pirates, and also that despite your modest skills and heavy reliance on cheating, you speak as though you are skilled fighters. Perhaps the only tactic worth of merit you use is to come across the grid or warp in at 150km and buzz around like flies then run to safespots and go afk for the rest of the night.
Don't bother replying, I can tell that an Evol guy is lying when he begins to open his mouth. --------------------------- (c) Copyright Saladin, 2005. Any editing of this post by a third party will be in violation United States Internet Copyright law 46525 of 2003. |

Toulak
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:50:00 -
[54]
Quote:
Quote: Bah, CA are pirates..
Really who cares? Just shoot em all Celest, I'll join ya Does that make me a pirate? Oooo do I look like I care?
Bring it on MR noob no body. I am in H-ADOC.
I will be more then happy to give you a new clone.
Oh look my pants have changed to a browny colour.. 
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:52:00 -
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Hey solo,
Your thread got jacked again 
You thought the pirates were bad at jacking your threads, you haven't seen ANYTHING yet by communicating with the CA in a thread. They are in a whole new world of highjacking.
I miss miso and her bongo's 
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:55:00 -
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PLEASE come to Curse toulak. I need to kill some DSIN.  |

Toulak
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:56:00 -
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Want a repeat performance of our last battle eh? Im sure we can accomadate that..
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.06 15:58:00 -
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Quote: propanelgen, FFS, leave me alone..
Dream, we are pirate hunters, but more so, we are PVPers, its why we play the game.
Shadow is the diplomat out of us all, i wouldnt even have bothered about posting about the CA, but again he done the rite thing. TBH, the more targets we have the better. and dream werent u trying to join evolution a while back .
the only folks me and [CELES] answer to are the PA alliance, they say, dont fire on some1 we wont.
shadow thought he would maybe try and sort something out, but it now seems impossible.
im sure [CELES] will relish the fight.
we arnt big headed, and we dont mind dying and losing ships, its all part of the fun, we dont make out we are somthing we arnt, but think you may be a little shocked.
d solo.
I asked to join Evolution and they never answered yeah, thats a public secret. But that was before the whole stain / curse / claiming solarsystems thing, if i only knew. 
But thats completely offtopic, and not related to the subject. My question is and still stands, do you condone piracy within the corporation?
You declare to be pirate hunters, but yet you kill a corporation CEO that you are not at war with and have neutral standings with, that is called piracy Darth. Its against everything you once stood for, if im not mistaken.
As you can read from the responce, the corporation that was attacked contacted Shadow and they had requests, they received no answer. What kind of sorting out do i don't get, he's too busy with not talking to them?
I thought you guys didnt condone piracy, from what i hear of it now it seems you condone it. By going to war for it, you seem to supporting such behaviour?
Or am i wrong?
Btw im not talking for Omega, Curse or any other corporation... Its personal opinion really.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.06 16:00:00 -
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Quote: Hey solo,
Your thread got jacked again 
You thought the pirates were bad at jacking your threads, you haven't seen ANYTHING yet by communicating with the CA in a thread. They are in a whole new world of highjacking.
I miss miso and her bongo's 
dbp
yeah DB, i told myself a while back to just play the bloody game and not bother about what ppl write, i really should listen to myself .
u guys have done it rite, we fire on some1 in 0.0 space and its a big , "oooooooooo im gonna tell on u" and "do u know who i am".
as for fighting toualk 1v1, EVEN I wouldnt do that .
What u guys think, 5 more posts allowed in before the usuall polaris lock?.
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semp
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Posted - 2004.02.06 16:02:00 -
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And there you have it, the time honored tradition of SA/EVOL/Tyrell trying to convince everyone we are the bad guys and trying to convince other people to fight wars for them.
It was not us that said one of you members had gone rouge and yet fail to condem their actions or kick them out of the CA.
What I understand regarding SIM is that most of their membership left for another corp/alliance. This is second hand info so I'm not sure.
Second hand info? is that something like 'there is always deniability'?
Semp
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TIvian
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Posted - 2004.02.06 16:13:00 -
[61]
Did you ever accept Homo Erectus' invitation to a 1 vs 1?
I have never had an invitation to a 1 on 1 with Homo. So I dont know WTF your talking about. I have had no communication from him what so ever.
And the last time any one went to meet mr exploit king they went there and the rest of Evol showed up and Ganked him.
I would not ever meet any of Evol in a 1 on 1. and they never fight alone....all my encounters with 1 Evolution is the afterburner glare as they run away.
(\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!! |

Mojo JoJo
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Posted - 2004.02.06 16:19:00 -
[62]
bah let the clone center sort out any issues thats what i say :P
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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2004.02.06 16:21:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Shadowthrone on 06/02/2004 16:25:21
TIvian , I do not see how i have gone back on my word. When we talked i thought we had an understanding. I have clearly posted our intentions on the original post.
While I had to prematurely leave our converation( as I had to go to work) prior to us agreeing on how exactly we would arrange compensation for you CEOs lost damage mods. When i return from work i recieve a mail stating that a curse alliance corp has declared war on us.
In regard to your CEOs lost kestrel immediately after the incident we agreed safe passage for u CEOs pod and offerd to trade back the remaining damage mods that were recovered from the can. However Downtime prevented the trade. I even compensated 500k for the lost kessie. However at the time i did not realise the true value of the cargo.
While I think our pilot's comments later where unfortunate, I can hardly blame him. He has been pirating hunting in PF346 longer than the rest of us and the only CA ships he has met have fired on him.
In regard to Evolution , Celestial Apocalypse are neutral, however we will team up to hunt pirates in the area if both parties are agreeable to do so.
I did not have to post anything regarding this whole issue. I did so at the request of TIvian to make clear our intentions to the honest corporations of the CA.
The fact that the majority of the EVE community considers CA to be at best"pirate sympathizers" is not our problem but that of the CA PR departement.
I will happily discuss any of these issues in game with a CA representative at a convient time, as we only wish to attack pirates, but we will vehmently defend ourselves from any hostile corporation.
Celes Kill Board
"Show them no mercy, for you will receive none"
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The Monk
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Posted - 2004.02.06 16:23:00 -
[64]
Edited by: The Monk on 06/02/2004 16:29:43
Quote:
Quote: As for Celestial Apocolypse, they have fought or supported the Evolution Pirate corp, then they should be crushed in the name of Justice.
Don't talk about respecting the official NAP when you hang with our enemies.
Hmmmmmm ok, so we came to ca and fought you all cuz SINC was an ADMITTED and WELL KNOWN bunch of pirates who had attacked us. We then killed you all for supporting them. That makes us pirates. But it's ok for you?
You are perhaps the biggest hypocrite I have ever had the misfortune to read a post from.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2004.02.06 16:25:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Saladin on 06/02/2004 16:27:29 Edited by: Saladin on 06/02/2004 16:27:01
Quote:
And there you have it, the time honored tradition of SA/EVOL/Tyrell trying to convince everyone we are the bad guys and trying to convince other people to fight wars for them.
It was not us that said one of you members had gone rouge and yet fail to condem their actions or kick them out of the CA.
What I understand regarding SIM is that most of their membership left for another corp/alliance. This is second hand info so I'm not sure.
Second hand info? is that something like 'there is always deniability'?
Semp
I'm not in any kind of position to speak for SIM or the CA council, I merely passed down what I heard. Everything I write here on the forums is just my personal opinion, and I am fortunate that I belong to a corporation and alliance that doesn't gag its own people. With regards to SIM, I'm just a low level grunt saying what he heard in the mess hall. Take it for what its worth. --------------------------- (c) Copyright Saladin, 2005. Any editing of this post by a third party will be in violation United States Internet Copyright law 46525 of 2003. |

The Monk
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Posted - 2004.02.06 16:26:00 -
[66]
Edited by: The Monk on 06/02/2004 16:27:07
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.06 16:46:00 -
[67]
Quote:
What makes you pirates is that you shoot everyone.
Not true.
Quote:
As for you and your kind, you are like rabid dogs with an insatiable bloodlust.
Ok. We never claime to not enjoy ourselves.
Quote:
You guys are Pirates.
Proof? Oh killing a noob alt. Yeah, noone in CA has EVER done that b4
Quote: despite your modest skills and heavy reliance on cheating,
OMG roofles. You are still mad about getting ganked when you ctd Good lord, we lose peeps to ctd too. We don't cheat. Our kill ratio speaks for our skills. And we don't need to form pansy azz alt corps to chase you down either. We come to your "home" and dare you to stop us. You 99.99% of the time fail at that. You are tho, the best smacktalkers in the game 
Don't bother replying, I can tell that a CA guy is lying when he begins to open his mouth. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.06 16:49:00 -
[68]
Quote:
No you didnt kill us all you dumb@ss
Ok, for you hindy, and the other mentally challenged, (monk) I mean we killed you all, as in we began killing all the corps in support of sinc. Not as in we have a corpse for every ca member. um duh
Why is it I think I am talking to people over the age of 12 on here. Guess that will teach me. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.06 16:59:00 -
[69]
Quote: And the last time any one went to meet mr exploit king they went there and the rest of Evol showed up and Ganked him.
Hey look, TIvian is making sh1t up again!
OK, maybe not. Who was it that was in a 1v1 that got team ganked? Where was it. When was it. And against what evol member?
Hmm yeah, sure, I am sure this will be one of those posts you "miss" and don't respond too.
Like Homo's 1v1 challenge
And factually refuting your idiotic claims of Shrike getting banned off the HW ladder, when it was a BOS MEMBER (Thor) that got banned lol.
What a piece of work. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2004.02.06 17:10:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Saladin on 06/02/2004 17:14:01 Actually I'm surprised you remembered that CTD. Yes I did die to a CTD. Did I claim you cheated on that occasion? nope. I knew before hand that when two people warp scramble each other it can cause gang mates to CTD. You guys all then suddenly logged on or jumped in. I don't think the CTD was caused on purpose. Its a moot point anyways, it was 6 of you against two of us, the outcome was not unexpected.
As for cheating, I'm talking about crossing in and out of grids during combat, warp/warp cancel to avoid getting hit by missles...etc. Of course each and every time we filed a petition for those, the GM in question agreed that the action was indeed an exploit, but had no way of proving that the exploit occured because the servers don't maintain the logs for that. They also said that if the person admitted to the exploit that is not considered proof because 'he could be joking'. So in conclusion evolution is very well aware of the fact that exploitation in combat cannot be caught in EVE, and even if you admit you exploited you are still safe because thats not 'proof' either. Even if you exploit and are caught, you are slapped on the wrist with a warning or temporary ban. Evolution knows this and thats why they have exploited in the past and will exert every effort to find new exploits and use them in the future.
It was no coincidence that Evolution withdrew from CA claimed areas shortly before many of the grid problems were fixed in the latest patch --------------------------- (c) Copyright Saladin, 2005. Any editing of this post by a third party will be in violation United States Internet Copyright law 46525 of 2003. |

Lightor
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Posted - 2004.02.06 17:15:00 -
[71]
Quote:
Quote: And the last time any one went to meet mr exploit king they went there and the rest of Evol showed up and Ganked him.
Hey look, TIvian is making sh1t up again!
OK, maybe not. Who was it that was in a 1v1 that got team ganked? Where was it. When was it. And against what evol member?
Hmm yeah, sure, I am sure this will be one of those posts you "miss" and don't respond too.
Like Homo's 1v1 challenge
And factually refuting your idiotic claims of Shrike getting banned off the HW ladder, when it was a BOS MEMBER (Thor) that got banned lol.
What a piece of work.
I think it's past your bedtime as you are clearly getting over exited again.... |

Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.02.06 17:38:00 -
[72]
Saladin's Pet Monkey Typed
Quote: It was no coincidence that Evolution withdrew from CA claimed areas shortly before many of the grid problems were fixed in the latest patch
Wow... it really is possible to manufacture a conspiracy theory out of a piece of twine, a stick of bubble gum, and an unbent paper clip. 
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.06 17:38:00 -
[73]
Edited by: The Reclaimer on 06/02/2004 17:47:44
Quote:
Quote: And the last time any one went to meet mr exploit king they went there and the rest of Evol showed up and Ganked him.
Hey look, TIvian is making sh1t up again!
OK, maybe not. Who was it that was in a 1v1 that got team ganked? Where was it. When was it. And against what evol member?
Hmm yeah, sure, I am sure this will be one of those posts you "miss" and don't respond too.
Like Homo's 1v1 challenge
And factually refuting your idiotic claims of Shrike getting banned off the HW ladder, when it was a BOS MEMBER (Thor) that got banned lol.
What a piece of work.
Hell, I even rember the post that was made on the forums about this happening in HLW. Do you want to continue to deny it? I have a little rope left for you.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.06 17:58:00 -
[74]
Quote: Do you want to continue to deny it? I have a little rope left for you.
Get out the rope, as you or other ca members twisting the truth of what happens to suit your whims does not make it fact. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Havocide
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Posted - 2004.02.06 18:12:00 -
[75]
o look another CA-SA(and evol) flame war with a splash of PA scum 
how about we say we are all pirates and we shut up?
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Pogy Bait
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Posted - 2004.02.06 18:31:00 -
[76]
Quote: o look another CA-SA(and evol) flame war with a splash of PA scum 
how about we say we are all pirates and we shut up?
No kidding Havocide, though these rant fests do help me pass the slower times at work :)
Hell I am in CA and I get bored of this crap. There was once a time when I tried to counter the "CA are teh pirates" threads, but now I realise that in this game you either kill ships and are a pirate, or you kill ships and have a good PR department and therefore are not.
Hell, I'll just stick to the killing and hope that the rest works itself out.
Arg me matey! I keeled a ship in Curse space so I must be a pirate too!
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The Reclaimer
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Posted - 2004.02.06 18:36:00 -
[77]
Quote:
Quote: Do you want to continue to deny it? I have a little rope left for you.
Get out the rope, as you or other ca members twisting the truth of what happens to suit your whims does not make it fact.
Here ya go.
Homo
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Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2004.02.06 18:38:00 -
[78]
please keep it friendly or thread will be locked. 
ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |

Hirakii Phoenix
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Posted - 2004.02.06 18:43:00 -
[79]
The Phoenix Alliance has 2 rules for our corporations when operating inside or outside of PA space.
1. Don't Pirate.
2. Don't start a galactic war.
Shadowthrone started this thread to explain and diffuse a very small incedent that was resolved shortly after it occured. The PA would like to commend him and Celestial Apoc for their diplomatic efforts towards honoring rule #2 listed above. We consider this matter closed, and our "neutral" relationship with the CA solid and intact.
Questions reguarding the official position of the PA on any point of galactic importance, should be forwarded to our forums listed at the link above. http://www.newvenal.org/TPAGraphics/HirakiiPhoenix.gif Hirakii Phoenix - Public representative the Phoenix Alliance |

XpoHoc
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Posted - 2004.02.06 18:49:00 -
[80]
Darth solo... I've mentioned a while ago that I don't like the fact that your corp joined an alliance (NVA), now you know why. :)
Bounty hunters should be free, neutral, without any rules to follow from "above".
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.02.06 19:17:00 -
[81]
Evol and Stain want all CA to be pirates so much don't you? Every chance you get huh?
HINT: stop shooting innocents yourselves, and people might listen to you.
Sig Thief
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The Monk
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Posted - 2004.02.06 20:02:00 -
[82]
Quote: please keep it friendly or thread will be locked. 
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Klio
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Posted - 2004.02.06 21:16:00 -
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This thread has run its course and I am locking it for flaming and trolling. (after cleaning up a bit )
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