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Dyaven
The Minutemen NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2012.01.15 19:53:00 -
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My tank just absolutely cannot handle even the easiest of sites in a -.9 trusec system it seems. Any recommendations?
[Machariel, Ratting] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II
Photon Scattering Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Large Shield Booster II Invulnerability Field II
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L Drone Link Augmentor I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Garde II x4 Hobgoblin II x5
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Aamrr
226
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Posted - 2012.01.15 20:07:00 -
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Try capacitor injection. It makes tanking Minmatar ships much easier. |
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1876
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Posted - 2012.01.15 20:08:00 -
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Well you have two options
1) Fit 1400mm Arty's and a AB, keep range and avoid most dps and neuts, something like... [Machariel, New Setup 1] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
100MN Afterburner II Large Shield Booster II Photon Scattering Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II
1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L [empty high slot]
Large Ancillary Current Router I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
or 2) Fit AC's, Cap Booster and Heavy Tank... [Machariel, New Setup 1] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L [empty high slot]
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
5 Senses In A Person... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Poles On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!-á If You Like My Sig, Like Me!-áRemember EVE is EVErything! |
Goose99
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Posted - 2012.01.15 21:46:00 -
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What's with those Machs without ab? It's 600m/s and with a bc sized sig.
Oh, and a boat with 7 lows and 5 mids is supposed to be armor tanked. Carebears shield tank it because shield exp resist is better against Angels in Minmatar space. |
ShadowFire15
BOAE INC GIANTSBANE.
64
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Posted - 2012.01.16 05:45:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:What's with those Machs without ab? It's 600m/s and with a bc sized sig.
Oh, and a boat with 7 lows and 5 mids is supposed to be armor tanked. Carebears shield tank it because shield exp resist is better against Angels in Minmatar space.
lots of people shield tank it to get max gankage in the lows. plus shield tanking means keeping the ships speed up. armor tanking slows it down Stan Smith had a snow storm over weekend guy was shoveling snow outside, so i shot him and mined the snow myself. concord never showed up. on an unrelated note, i have a court date next tuesday |
Kolya Medz
Kolya Inc.
26
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Posted - 2012.01.16 07:59:00 -
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I armor tank my mach, but only against em/therm rats, keep 3 stabs, use tracking compies in mids. You'll keep the tracking and optimal, but lose a minimal amount of dps. |
Imma ShroomDealer
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.01.16 11:30:00 -
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Hmm /me looks at sov map.
nemisis lives in delve Check
/me look's for -0.9 system check /me finds Y-OMTZ Check
/me comes to camp ur systems and kill ur mach and other bearz
thanks for letting me know where / what you rat in
also crap fit mac is crapfit |
Miriiah
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.01.16 13:05:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:What's with those Machs without ab? It's 600m/s and with a bc sized sig.
Oh, and a boat with 7 lows and 5 mids is supposed to be armor tanked. Carebears shield tank it because shield exp resist is better against Angels in Minmatar space.
And the winner of the biggest pants on head ******** post in this thread goes to you.
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dream3874
Tears of Redemption NEM3SIS.
3
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Posted - 2012.01.16 13:12:00 -
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Imma ShroomDealer wrote:Hmm /me looks at sov map.
nemisis lives in delve Check
/me look's for -0.9 system check /me finds Y-OMTZ Check
/me comes to camp ur systems and kill ur mach and other bearz
thanks for letting me know where / what you rat in
also crap fit mac is crapfit
Please come down, I think I will like that. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2704
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Posted - 2012.01.16 14:52:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:What's with those Machs without ab? It's 600m/s and with a bc sized sig.
Oh, and a boat with 7 lows and 5 mids is supposed to be armor tanked. Carebears shield tank it because shield exp resist is better against Angels in Minmatar space.
Your reply is so ******** I don't even know where to begin
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
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Gallente Citizen 20120114
Kerensky Initiatives
2705
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Posted - 2012.01.16 14:52:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:What's with those Machs without ab? It's 600m/s and with a bc sized sig.
Oh, and a boat with 7 lows and 5 mids is supposed to be armor tanked. Carebears shield tank it because shield exp resist is better against Angels in Minmatar space.
Your reply is so ******** I don't even know where to begin
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Rommell Drako
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming Moar Tears
6
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Posted - 2012.01.16 16:13:00 -
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You should fit like this. Think its prob saved in your alliance fittings....
http://moartears.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11476
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Goose99
676
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Posted - 2012.01.16 17:28:00 -
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ShadowFire15 wrote:Goose99 wrote:What's with those Machs without ab? It's 600m/s and with a bc sized sig.
Oh, and a boat with 7 lows and 5 mids is supposed to be armor tanked. Carebears shield tank it because shield exp resist is better against Angels in Minmatar space. lots of people shield tank it to get max gankage in the lows. plus shield tanking means keeping the ships speed up. armor tanking slows it down
No difference in gank. He had 3 gyros on that shield Mach. An armor Mach with standard 4 slot tank also has 3 gyros. 3 TEs gets moved to mid as 3 scripted TCs. 2 mids left for ab and cap booster. Rep armor fitting (no plate/trimark) don't gimp speed, not that it matters much in pve anyway. Armor affords you better EM resistance and cap. |
Xolani1990
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
72
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Posted - 2012.01.16 17:33:00 -
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Why do you have triple capacitor control circuit rigs on a fit that doesn't use cap for anything other than hardeners? |
Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
595
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Posted - 2012.01.16 17:41:00 -
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Xolani1990 wrote:Why do you have triple capacitor control circuit rigs on a fit that doesn't use cap for anything other than hardeners?
Shield boosters use cap. Rigs are still stupid though. |
Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo NEM3SIS.
49
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Posted - 2012.01.16 20:45:00 -
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Imma ShroomDealer wrote:Hmm /me looks at sov map.
nemisis lives in delve Check
/me look's for -0.9 system check /me finds Y-OMTZ Check
/me comes to camp ur systems and kill ur mach and other bearz
thanks for letting me know where / what you rat in
also crap fit mac is crapfit
Come on down, see how that works out for ya. Also, post with your main, *****. |
Aisha's Vengence
20
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Posted - 2012.01.16 20:47:00 -
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glass houses |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
931
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Posted - 2012.01.17 11:31:00 -
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Off topic posts removed. Please stay on topic and polite, thank you. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Shawnm339
Galactic Shipyards Inc NEM3SIS.
47
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Posted - 2012.01.18 11:20:00 -
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Dyaven wrote:My tank just absolutely cannot handle even the easiest of sites in a -.9 trusec system it seems. Any recommendations?
[Machariel, Ratting] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Damage Control II
Photon Scattering Field II Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Large Shield Booster II Invulnerability Field II
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L Drone Link Augmentor I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Garde II x4 Hobgoblin II x5
Sell your mach buy an apoc fit t2 pulses and scorch shoot neuts as a priority...rinse and repeat |
Dyaven
The Minutemen NEM3SIS.
24
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:20:00 -
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Things I have:
T2 projectiles T2 hybrids
Things that aren't good at ratting Bloods:
projectiles (moreso a problem of the ships that use them then the weapons themselves) hybrids
Me:
:(
For the moment I've switched to a lolarmorfit that's been working okay. Little slower at killing but it's cap stable and tanks better. |
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Goose99
707
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Posted - 2012.01.18 15:36:00 -
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Dyaven wrote:Things I have:
T2 projectiles T2 hybrids
Things that aren't good at ratting Bloods:
projectiles (moreso a problem of the ships that use them then the weapons themselves) hybrids
Me:
:(
For the moment I've switched to a lolarmorfit that's been working okay. Little slower at killing but it's cap stable and tanks better.
Why would armor be slower at killing? Same number of gyros, Scripted TCs replacing same number of TEs. |
Dyaven
The Minutemen NEM3SIS.
25
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Posted - 2012.01.18 16:27:00 -
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If I fit all three TCs with scripts it's the same range but zero tracking bonus. Atm I'm using one Range script and two unscripted TCs as that seems to be the best mix. |
Goose99
710
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Posted - 2012.01.18 18:54:00 -
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Dyaven wrote:If I fit all three TCs with scripts it's the same range but zero tracking bonus. Atm I'm using one Range script and two unscripted TCs as that seems to be the best mix.
Small 9% stacking penalized tracking bonus from TEs don't add to much. At long range, ACs tracks well enough. At short range, switch script for big 30% tracking bonus. |
Diomidis
Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED
37
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Posted - 2012.01.19 03:27:00 -
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Quote:[Machariel, Missions T2 Dmg] Damage Control II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Shadow Serpentis 100MN Afterburner Pith B-Type X-Large Shield Booster Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L Auto Targeting System I
Large Projectile Collision Accelerator I Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I
Hammerhead II x5
I use the above... Needs 3% CPU implant or 1-2 faction mods to fit. I swap the 2nd invu for a Photon vs. EM heavy opponents like Blood Raiders. Works a charm, speed tanks a lot more than it does on paper. Even better with hardwirings and faction ammo.
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