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BhallSpawn
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Posted - 2007.08.24 03:08:00 -
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Edited by: BhallSpawn on 24/08/2007 03:09:34 Edited by: BhallSpawn on 24/08/2007 03:09:01 As most inteligent people know the raven gets owned in most 1v1 situations. Aside from electronic warfare, the raven just doesn't have the DPS the mega\geddon\apoc\etc have.
So what are missle specd bs pilots to do in pvp?
Nothing.
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Hyuuga Veralis
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2007.08.24 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn
An accurate list of fun Caldari PvP ships.
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Celestal
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Posted - 2007.08.24 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn Edited by: BhallSpawn on 24/08/2007 03:09:34
So what are missle specd bs pilots to do in pvp?
Nothing.
die ?
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Lord Matrix
Department of War
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Posted - 2007.08.24 03:16:00 -
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Try the flying radiator grill AKA the Rokh and it's insane shield tank.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.08.24 03:22:00 -
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Haha, caldari.... PvP...  
Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
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James Swindle
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Posted - 2007.08.24 03:41:00 -
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Rokh = Win
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falcinious
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Posted - 2007.08.24 04:05:00 -
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scorpion is always handy in gangs :)
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.08.24 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: falcinious scorpion is always primary in gangs :(
post fixing service 3mill
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.24 04:10:00 -
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Baster Rokh, 'nuff said. Or A scorpion with 4 NOS and jammers. Both will work out quite well in 1 vs. 1 scenarios, I believe ------------ Whiners - Unite! | Posting and You Tarminic - Forum Warfare Specialist. |

falcinious
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Posted - 2007.08.24 04:10:00 -
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That is true to :)
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Cyan Nuevo
Dudes In Crazy Killing Ships
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Posted - 2007.08.24 04:31:00 -
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Just like Amarr, they ain't great at solo PVP. You win some, you lose some... --- Proud Amarr pilot.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.08.24 04:32:00 -
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what was the most seen ship in the alliance tournament?
nouf said. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
Quote: Why didn't we use them 80 man-years to fix bugs?
Well, that's simple. We can't. These are visual ar
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Imperius Blackheart
Caldari Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.24 05:16:00 -
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Ravens not a bad pvp ship, but not used solo only in gangs who look after each other, he has *some* benifit, while the railgunners have to worry about range/ammo etc... makes no difference to me. Has one hell of a alphastrike as well. I fly ravens in pvp, and have a 10:1 kill ratio atm, a lot of that is down to good FC's and a great group of guys to fly with. But the ship doesn't let me down either.
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Kirex
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.24 05:18:00 -
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Caldari aren't good for solo PvP because their mid slots are used for shield tanking instead of warp scrambler, mwd, web etc... In group PvP they're fine.
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Blood Cultist
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Posted - 2007.08.24 05:22:00 -
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Edited by: Blood Cultist on 24/08/2007 05:22:06 Which would you rather have in your gang, a Mega or a Raven? A Drake or a Myrm? A Ferox or a Brutix? A Moa or a Thorax?
I know what I would chose.
ECM ships are borderline fine, they're still effective but now paper thin.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.24 05:24:00 -
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People should first read before posting: This guy is asking what MISSILE SEPECD pilats are going to do, so rokh is not an option.
1v1: either tackeling or good tank, can't have both. But in both cases it has a low damage output. So either in 1v1 or many vs many - the raven is a ship that many people don't want see in their gang but in their enemies gang 
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SteeleResolve
Snyyde
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Posted - 2007.08.24 05:51:00 -
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You cant have everything guys.
Raven is fine, if you want more pvp missile ships you have to go armour tanked.
Try Khanid ships after the patch (yes I know there are no Khanid BS's.... yet)
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Kirex
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.24 05:55:00 -
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Depends on the PvP, close range Mega/myrm/ferox/thorax. Mid to long Mega or Raven/drake/ferox/moa.
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SteeleResolve
Snyyde
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Posted - 2007.08.24 06:04:00 -
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Originally by: Yakia TovilToba People should first read before posting: This guy is asking what MISSILE SEPECD pilats are going to do, so rokh is not an option.
Thats like saying what are missile specced minmatar pilots going to do with only a split bonus on the typhoon.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.08.24 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: SteeleResolve
Originally by: Yakia TovilToba People should first read before posting: This guy is asking what MISSILE SEPECD pilats are going to do, so rokh is not an option.
Thats like saying what are missile specced minmatar pilots going to do with only a split bonus on the typhoon.
and yet many of us use it :) ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |

Drasked
North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.08.24 06:25:00 -
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Raven with damps?
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.08.24 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: Drasked Raven with damps?
that could work... give it logistics back up, and something to keep the ship tackled.
there you go nice 3 man gang gank set up. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |

SteeleResolve
Snyyde
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Posted - 2007.08.24 06:44:00 -
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What the OP wants is a raven that acts like a megathron/dominix.
Its just one of those things I'm afraid. Caldari is god of PvE. If you aren't happy with it just train another race. No offence meant btw.
Oh, and:
Originally by: BhallSpawn Aside from electronic warfare, the raven just doesn't have the DPS the mega\geddon\apoc\etc have.
Please... Apoc is worst BS in game.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.08.24 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: SteeleResolve What the OP wants is a raven that acts like a megathron/dominix.
Its just one of those things I'm afraid. Caldari is god of PvE. If you aren't happy with it just train another race. No offence meant btw.
Oh, and:
Originally by: BhallSpawn Aside from electronic warfare, the raven just doesn't have the DPS the mega\geddon\apoc\etc have.
Please... Apoc is worst BS in game.
how so? it's got a sick tank when fitted with autocannons :P ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |

Major Stallion
Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.08.24 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn Edited by: BhallSpawn on 24/08/2007 03:09:34 Edited by: BhallSpawn on 24/08/2007 03:09:01 As most inteligent people know the raven gets owned in most 1v1 situations. Aside from electronic warfare, the raven just doesn't have the DPS the mega\geddon\apoc\etc have.
So what are missle specd bs pilots to do in pvp?
Nothing.
clearly the raven is overpowered in PvP....i think we need to nerf it....oh wait.... ________________________________ High Sec PvP
Originally by: "Wylker" CCP has finally mastered stupidity
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.08.24 06:55:00 -
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A member of my alliance, Fleshdiver, has 707 kills in Ravens. Perhaps one just needs to know how to use it? -- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.08.24 06:55:00 -
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A raven is actually quite useful as a non-Battleship PvP craft. Torps + Target painter are pretty cool at taking down cruisers, BC's and the like, while a cruise-missle fitted raven is good for taking down inties and other speed-tanked craft thanks to their damage being enhanced by MWDs
But for all round good PvP, the Blokh does a pretty good job (blaster rokh) :)
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Buyerr
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Posted - 2007.08.24 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Celestal
Originally by: BhallSpawn Edited by: BhallSpawn on 24/08/2007 03:09:34
So what are missle specd bs pilots to do in pvp?
Nothing.
die ?
yer as it is now that is pritty much it ^^ mostly it is a problem with the missiles speed i think. and a bit the fact that they got over pwnaged by the multiple nerfs caldari have suffered the last 4-5 patches :S
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.24 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: BhallSpawn So what are missle specd bs pilots to do in pvp?
Train for gunnery. 
There are ways to mitigate the disadvantges of missile weaponry in PvP, but those disadvantages are the price we pay for Ravens being such a ratting steamroller.
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UGWidowmaker
Caldari The Ankou The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.08.24 07:14:00 -
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LOL the raven is so damn ower powered allready. i hounestly think its the only ship people do misions in and rat in... its VERY rare i see amarr ships as ratters choise. or minmitars for that matter. OMFG
I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
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