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Rhys Onasi
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:01:00 -
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http://eve.warcry.com/news/view/76434
Don't know how to link stuff yet... lol
But this news article was put up in General Discussion, but I thought we should have a thread in ships to discuss the new Black Ops BS... 
WarCry: Any word on when we could be seeing Tech 2 Battle Ships, and what they might be like?
Noah Ward: Well they are not going to be like uber hacks or you know, they are not just going to be just more damage and more resist. We are really trying to have them fill a certain niche, so what we are planning on having for the Revelations 3 patch is Black Ops battleships, which are more stealth oriented, more for getting behind enemy lines, more recon types of things. Maybe some special features with perhaps their own jump drives, and their own jump portals that will only allow certain ships through.
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Monologue
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:13:00 -
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Hm, and additionally T2 BS for mission runners? Is this a hoax?
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Serilla
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:21:00 -
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http://eve.warcry.com/news/view/76434
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Grif Oberwald
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Posted - 2007.08.30 16:26:00 -
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The T2 ship for mission runner sounded like a T2 Domi but without the damage bonus (says lots of utility slots)
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Hairtrigger
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.30 17:26:00 -
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Black opp's eh,
Hairtriger starts training his ew skills to lvl5's 
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Jei'son Bladesmith
Bladesmith Mining and Development Consortium
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Posted - 2007.08.30 17:43:00 -
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oooooooooooo
GIMME GIMME GIMME!!!
good find Rhys, you win EVE
☼☼☼ Don't even THINK about it rookie...I have all my capacitor and more hit points than you can POSSIBLY imagine. ☼☼☼
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.08.30 17:43:00 -
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Interesting...
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Ishina Fel
Caldari
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.31 06:18:00 -
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I can see the Caldari Black Ops BS now.
6 highslots, 3 missile hardpoints, 2 turret hardpoints, a missile flight time bonus and 2 ECM bonuses.  
It'll have the Scorpions missing second wing though, which will make it uber! To not totally overpower it, CCP took away the first wing, though.
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Mo adib
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Posted - 2007.08.31 06:24:00 -
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Edited by: Mo adib on 31/08/2007 06:24:11
cant wait for a bs sized curse :p with jump portaling 
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Khan Dhu
Khan Dhu Research and Cloning
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Posted - 2007.08.31 07:24:00 -
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The only reason I could see for a "dedicated mission-running ship" is something that in groups will be able to tackle L5s easily.
Think about it - all that coding time for something hardly anyone does.
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Wideen
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.08.31 08:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Khan Dhu
The only reason I could see for a "dedicated mission-running ship" is something that in groups will be able to tackle L5s easily.
Think about it - all that coding time for something hardly anyone does.
I'm pretty sure the programmers are paid well for their efforts =)
haven't heard anything about a mission running T2 BS, but I wonder how it would be restricted to missions only? if it could tank a L5 missions I'd wanna use it in pvp =)
Originally by: P'uck
I know somebody who heard somebody say that an Osprey defeated Chuck Norris. Twice. Need I say more?
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Steini OFSI
Gallente
Minigame
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Posted - 2007.08.31 08:38:00 -
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Edited by: Steini OFSI on 31/08/2007 08:40:04
What I'm wondering is that these ships are meant to get behind enemy lines, to diverse and disperse blobs. I wouldn't be suprised to see that you could in the future possible hack POS to a disabled state with specified black op ships.
For the missions runners, bonus to tracking beams (or medium beams) bonus to salvaging and tanking, rather than DPS bonuses. All in all good although I hate the ammount of isks beeing brought into the game with missions and bounties.
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port22
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.08.31 08:44:00 -
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Great, so we are going to have battleships that can constantly sit cloaked in systems (like we have now with recons) and destroy alliance/corps ability to do anything about it.
G G C C P
Originally by: Temp Boi
Port FTMFW Period.
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Tirama Khoram
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Posted - 2007.08.31 08:44:00 -
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My suspicion for the mission running T2 BSs is that they will have HAC resists, increased high (utility) slots for salvagers etc, but a reduced number of mid and low slots compared to their T1 equivalents. This would make them good at tanking but not overpowered.
Their bonuses would be specialised.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.08.31 08:52:00 -
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Utility slots? 
The best thing a mission ship can have is as much long range dps as possible, utility slots only slow it down...
Unless they get more than 8 highs
I am as bad a mission ***** as they come, but really, what do we need a T2 mission BS for when we have the CNR, Abaddon, Domi, Navy Mega....
Well okay, a few (though quite overpowered) possibilities are there...
Like CNR with 8 missiles, Domi with drone velocity bonus, Abaddon with cap bonus, Armortanking missileboat, Minnie ship with 7 turret slots, tanking and tracking bonus.
But please no 'utility slots'.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.31 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: port22
Great, so we are going to have battleships that can constantly sit cloaked in systems (like we have now with recons) and destroy alliance/corps ability to do anything about it.
G G C C P
just because they say "stealthy" doesn't mean that they will use a cloak.
...that or CCP is including some kind of anti-cloaking measures.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.31 09:29:00 -
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Edited by: cal nereus on 31/08/2007 09:42:13
I suppose the Black Ops BS might be neat. Don't understand what kind of purpose the mission-running one would serve. Probably going to be pretty dang expensive too.
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Bendit
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Posted - 2007.08.31 10:35:00 -
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If the black ops follow the same path as the recons we can expect something like this maybe?
Caldari:
5 highs
8 mids
3/4 lows
Gall:
5 highs
7 Meds
4/5 lows
Minmatar:
5 Highs
6 mids
5/6 lows
blah blah and so on, fit 1 cloak and you have 4 highslots left for pew pew.
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Boonaki
Caldari
Knights of Chaos
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.08.31 10:49:00 -
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Black Ops tends to be subversion, sabotage, etc.
Give it some black ops features, like sneak into an enemy home system and put station services off line for 8 hours.
Fear the Ibis of doom!
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Joshua Mendle
Gallente
The Bewlay Bros. Inc
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Posted - 2007.08.31 11:28:00 -
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Give them an E-bomb, with a wide impact radius, that disables an enemy fleet by lowering the CPU output of it's ships. This would take a few of their turrets/bays off line, giving a weaker force time to get in range/position.
A bit like the ION cannon in Empire Strikes Back, but with a wider effect.
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Shevar
Minmatar
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.08.31 11:29:00 -
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Just give me a khanid torpedo spewing apoc and all will be good.
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Ejderdisi
Caldari
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.31 12:05:00 -
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decloaker idea for new T2 BS recons
as they are giving us the bigger recons we need a decloaker ships. Just check this idea. and sign it if u like it... So no more cloaking ravens waiting in belts :P
For sake of not hijaking thread sign and discuss it in the linky...
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
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Posted - 2007.08.31 12:31:00 -
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Maybe the mission ships get 4 hardpoints with 20% damage bonus and semi-hac resists - should make room for tractors and salvagers... maybe bonus to remote stuff
Also I guess this ship will be geared towards some exploration? At least make sure it doesn't have any decent PG/CPU to become overpowered.
Black Ops sound cool - no ew plz, no cloaking bonus plz
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Caldorous
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.31 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: port22
Great, so we are going to have battleships that can constantly sit cloaked in systems (like we have now with recons) and destroy alliance/corps ability to do anything about it.
G G C C P
just because they say "stealthy" doesn't mean that they will use a cloak.
...that or CCP is including some kind of anti-cloaking measures.
While they dont use a covert ops cloak, everything should be fine, as both the improved and prototype cloaks should be useless against probes
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Bendit
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Posted - 2007.08.31 17:34:00 -
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Whats cool, is that theese new bs, will give some love to the small gangs.
Particulary the black op bs. The blobs have gotten their toys to play with now. Titans, MS, carriers, POS infrastructure, upgradable outposts and so on.
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goodby4u
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.31 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Bendit
If the black ops follow the same path as the recons we can expect something like this maybe?
Caldari:
5 highs
8 mids
3/4 lows
Gall:
5 highs
7 Meds
4/5 lows
Minmatar:
5 Highs
6 mids
5/6 lows
blah blah and so on, fit 1 cloak and you have 4 highslots left for pew pew.
Oi cant wait till the t2 amarr(8 lows)and cloak,99% resists and triple reps 4tw!
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Minmatar
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.31 19:23:00 -
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T2 BS needed - like HACs but bigger and more powerful.
I hate you damn frig/inty pilots ;)
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2007.08.31 19:47:00 -
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I like the idea of a stealthy Black Ops battleships, will use it for totally the wrong thing mind. Doing missions and role-playing.
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Pirokobo
Caldari
Orion Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.31 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Pirokobo on 31/08/2007 21:14:00
Screw black ops.
Make a "Siege Battleship" and let it fit dreadnought gear. Empire space needs capship guns.
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Nefeylia Ira
Lyonesse.
The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.08.31 22:44:00 -
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Why is he talking about a 'black ops' bs when we already have RECON ships? black ops != recon ?
Yea black ops sounds ... dangerous .., so what do you think about a 'ninja-carrier' and some eb1l 'commando transport shuttles'?
Tbh, I understand that T2 Ships (like all T2 stuff) are more specialized but I also hope thatbattleships will be found in fights and let recon-job to the real scouts.
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