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Avery Eclipsen Minmatar Through the Ashes of Empires	Posted - 2007.08.30 17:37:00 - [1] I want to Pierce my lip by myself, any tips? ___________________________________________
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.30 17:38:00 - [2] Edited by: Micheal Dietrich on 30/08/2007 17:39:31 Get a professional. $50 is alot cheaper than $200 medical bill. If you must though, gauze, and dissinfectant. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Trixie Baggz Pyrrhus Sicarii	Posted - 2007.08.30 17:41:00 - [3] I'll do it for you, send $12 to the paypal account 'Big Vinnies lethal injections'
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.08.30 18:15:00 - [4] OK, all you need is a hammer and a woodscrew... Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
Mad Amos	Posted - 2007.08.30 19:58:00 - [5] Edited by: Mad Amos on 30/08/2007 19:58:41 Bite down. Hard. Have lots of tissues ready. You're welcome. "Show me a sane man and I will cure him for you." -Carl Gustav Jung
Mikala Mara Minmatar Sadist Faction	Posted - 2007.08.30 20:15:00 - [6] I just read in the paper a few days ago that 30-40% of all those getting a tongue or lip piercing develop problems with their teeth. The gums retract slightly, exposing more of the teeth, which can then cause all kinds of problems, so keep that in mind as well
Saya Hime	Posted - 2007.08.30 20:20:00 - [7] What you need is a catheter, betadine and balls.
Dodiez Gallente The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.08.30 21:27:00 - [8] Originally by: Avery Eclipsen I want to Pierce my lip by myself, any tips? Yes. Do not. <--- I'm a ninja, I flip out and kiss people!
Krulla Minmatar True Centii	Posted - 2007.08.30 21:35:00 - [9] Originally by: Avery Eclipsen I want to Pierce my lip by myself, any tips? Yes. Don't. Whereas having a proffessional do it is just stupid, doing it yourself is utterly ********.
Layrex Caldari	Posted - 2007.08.30 21:38:00 - [10] I used to have snakebites during my scene kid days. After a while they start to damage your teeth and it's hell to eat with. If you have to do it please please get it done at a piercer's/tattoo parlour.
Sazkyen	Posted - 2007.08.30 22:04:00 - [11] Originally by: Layrex I used to have snakebites during my scene kid days. After a while they start to damage your teeth and it's hell to eat with. If you have to do it please please get it done at a piercer's/tattoo parlour. "some snakebites now and then" OMG Where the heck do you live?
Leilani Solaris Gallente Blood Corsair's The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.08.30 22:41:00 - [12] Don't be a cheapskate. Get it done right.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:00:00 - [13] Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 31/08/2007 00:01:01 Why? I mean this seriously. Why? I am by no means a prude. I've done the whole sex, drugs and rock & roll scene to a degree I really shouldn't admit to. But I never got the whole piercing thing. Womens ears fine although can be taken too far. Men's ears...meh...no great shakes but whatever. As for other parts of the body...just why? It is decidedly unattractive most other places. Particularly in the lip because it is unavoidable to look at or deal with. Ever try to kiss someone with a lip piercing? Tongue piercings are supposed to enhance sex but again it gets in the way far more than it helps. There are so many ways to pleasure your partner during sex a crutch like a tongue piercing is wholly unneeded. Further I have had friends who pierced this or that and mostly they found it painful and more than half had infection issues (and these are clean people who had it done professionally) and one even had a visit to the hospital for a belly button piercing gone bad (she was in for a week). Those who kept them awhile eventually gave them up for various reasons and not a single one ever wishes they had it back. Not one. For my friends who did this a common answer when I asked, "Why?" was, "I am not going to be a conformist to society" (or something along those lines). They never appreciated it when I pointed out they were conforming all right...just to a group that says it likes to be non-conformist (the irony is amazing really). So again why? It will cost you money. It will cause you pain. It may cause medical problems. It is not attractive. It is something almost everyone regrets doing eventually. Why? P.S. Of course you are free to do your own thing as you wish. I'm the last person who would force someone to do as I saw fit. I may try to persuade but after that what they do is their own lookout.
Mardonius Gallente Get out of the Kitchen Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:10:00 - [14] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h I mean this seriously. Why? I think know what you mean. So I'll try to give you some insight that may or may not be useful. But people do all sorts of silly things in the name of fun and enjoyment, or even just to 'fit in'. I myself spend a large share of my money on smokes and booze and various other things that aren't great for my health. It's nice to have boundaries and received wisdom to comfortably kick against. Thing is, I understand that sometimes the things that I do aren't good for me, but I do them anyway. For me, it's part and parcel of the learning process, and growing up (I'm 21 going-on 16), and essentially, living. In a nutshell, mistakes are a result of doing things. I personally would rather make those mistakes and learn from them, than to have never have made them and wish I had. I'm not the OP, but maybe the OP feels the same way...or not, maybe they just like the way piercings look. But that's my stock response to people who ask me why I do things that are clearly a bad idea.
Layrex Caldari	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:18:00 - [15] Originally by: Sazkyen Originally by: Layrex I used to have snakebites during my scene kid days. After a while they start to damage your teeth and it's hell to eat with. If you have to do it please please get it done at a piercer's/tattoo parlour. "some snakebites now and then" OMG Where the heck do you live? Eh? Snakebites are what you call it when you have both sides of your bottom lip pierced.
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:34:00 - [16] Originally by: Mardonius Originally by: Imperator Jora'h I mean this seriously. Why? I think know what you mean. So I'll try to give you some insight that may or may not be useful. But people do all sorts of silly things in the name of fun and enjoyment, or even just to 'fit in'. I myself spend a large share of my money on smokes and booze and various other things that aren't great for my health. It's nice to have boundaries and received wisdom to comfortably kick against. Thing is, I understand that sometimes the things that I do aren't good for me, but I do them anyway. For me, it's part and parcel of the learning process, and growing up (I'm 21 going-on 16), and essentially, living. In a nutshell, mistakes are a result of doing things. I personally would rather make those mistakes and learn from them, than to have never have made them and wish I had. I'm not the OP, but maybe the OP feels the same way...or not, maybe they just like the way piercings look. But that's my stock response to people who ask me why I do things that are clearly a bad idea. I hear you. I smoke cigarettes. I drink alcohol (probably more than I should). I have done a variety of other things, most illegal where I live, that I won't list here. But all were/are enjoyable. None involved physical pain (barring hangovers...and yeah a few of them are hell but they go away). Again I am all for doing your own thing. I certainly do not need to understand. It's your life, knock yourself out. Just in this case I have never met anyone who is happy they did this. My party days are not something I am proud or will brag about but I do not regret a moment (well...there was one bender with a hangover to end all hangovers I could have done without but whatever). The difference I think is this is something others have to deal with too. I have to look at you ("you" in the general sense). I may want to kiss you (if you are a beautiful woman). Faced with crap sticking out of your face though it is a whole other story. If you smoke you can put out the cigarette and chew some gum. If you drink put the drink down. If you are wasted you can come back to my place. But poking holes in yourself? I just do not get it.
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:43:00 - [17] Couldn't you guys just type one liners like the rest of us? I tattoed my entire right shoulder when I was younger although I tried to be smart about it. It's basically tribal's with Love and pain Symbols in the middle. No flaming skulls, no naked women, no names of now ex-girlfriends. Plus I can cover it up with a shirt and still look professional at work. Even now everytime my I wear a tank top around my dad he always asks me if I regret what I did and each time I say no. As for holes in my body though, I've got enough already. Plus their a nuisance at metal detectors. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2007.08.31 00:56:00 - [18] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Couldn't you guys just type one liners like the rest of us? I tattoed my entire right shoulder when I was younger although I tried to be smart about it. It's basically tribal's with Love and pain Symbols in the middle. No flaming skulls, no naked women, no names of now ex-girlfriends. Plus I can cover it up with a shirt and still look professional at work. Tattoos are not as bad in my view. More the issue there is like any art it is very subjective. Some will love it, some not so much. But some is definitely just juvenile (e.g. flaming skulls). I did actually date a woman for a short while who had an old boyfriend's name tattooed on her shoulder blade. Needless to say it was not something I was thrilled to look at when we got busy.
Captain Hudson Caldari Intergalactic Space Defense Force	Posted - 2007.08.31 01:07:00 - [19] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Couldn't you guys just type one liners like the rest of us? I tattoed my entire right shoulder when I was younger although I tried to be smart about it. It's basically tribal's with Love and pain Symbols in the middle. No flaming skulls, no naked women, no names of now ex-girlfriends. Plus I can cover it up with a shirt and still look professional at work. Even now everytime my I wear a tank top around my dad he always asks me if I regret what I did and each time I say no. As for holes in my body though, I've got enough already. Plus their a nuisance at metal detectors. Poor show old bean. Does it hurt when u get a tatoo? Originally by: SPQRMocton We would love to have a bunch of teenage pimple boys with no real pvp ability to fil our corpse yards
Saya Hime	Posted - 2007.08.31 01:23:00 - [20] Edited by: Saya Hime on 31/08/2007 01:23:23 Piercing is totally reversible assuming you do not pierce through cartilage and muscle and/or you do not wear that tribal inspired 1 inch wide jewelry. Used to have one like this. Few years laters you hardly notice the two little scares remaining. But I agree that tongue or lip piercing is damaging for teeth.
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2007.08.31 01:51:00 - [21] Traditionally piercing was something for the S/M crew where the submissives pierced themselves, are you submissive?
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.31 01:57:00 - [22] Originally by: Captain Hudson Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Couldn't you guys just type one liners like the rest of us? I tattoed my entire right shoulder when I was younger although I tried to be smart about it. It's basically tribal's with Love and pain Symbols in the middle. No flaming skulls, no naked women, no names of now ex-girlfriends. Plus I can cover it up with a shirt and still look professional at work. Even now everytime my I wear a tank top around my dad he always asks me if I regret what I did and each time I say no. As for holes in my body though, I've got enough already. Plus their a nuisance at metal detectors. Poor show old bean. Does it hurt when u get a tatoo? It's supposed to hurt at the wrists, ankles, top of your feet, by the collar bone, and near the spinal cord. Basically areas where the skin is thin. In my case I learned that we have quite a large bundle of nerves in our armpits (of all places) so the 2 places I even felt anything was my tribal armband that cut off the tat at the arm and my chinese dragon on the back of my shoulder (the Golden eagle up front was ok. Unfortunatly the dragon lost alot of ink during the scabbing so I gotta get it fixed one of these days. Personally the pain wasn't bad for me because 1) My artist is awesome at tattooing and knows how to cause little pain and 2) I put my mind somewhere else while they do it. I did know a friend who had his girlfriends name tattooed on his shoulder and of course they broke up. He took it one step further though and touched up the tattoo with a circle and line 'anti' symbol. Atleast he had a sense of humor about a mistake. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.08.31 02:04:00 - [23] Originally by: Saya Hime What you need is a catheter, betadine and balls. And a bottle of mescal after you stop the bleeding...(Not before that was my ****up when I did my own tongue! Thought I was gonna bleed to death!) _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.08.31 02:12:00 - [24] Originally by: Sharupak Originally by: Saya Hime What you need is a catheter, betadine and balls. And a bottle of mescal after you stop the bleeding...(Not before that was my ****up when I did my own tongue! Thought I was gonna bleed to death!) You pierced your own tongue??? Hold on... where'd I put that Cluepon FYI: the tongue contains an artery Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
Mardonius Gallente Get out of the Kitchen Zzz	Posted - 2007.08.31 02:31:00 - [25] Edited by: Mardonius on 31/08/2007 02:31:19 Originally by: Imperator Jora'h (well...there was one bender with a hangover to end all hangovers I could have done without but whatever). Hehe. I like hangovers in a kind of perverse way. I think of them as mementos of the night before, and also in a way as a kind of penance or retribution. You can't get away with everything. Originally by: Imperator Jora'h I hear you. ... The difference I think is this is something others have to deal with too. I have to look at you ("you" in the general sense). I may want to kiss you (if you are a beautiful woman). Faced with crap sticking out of your face though it is a whole other story. If you smoke you can put out the cigarette and chew some gum. If you drink put the drink down. If you are wasted you can come back to my place. But poking holes in yourself? I just do not get it. I hear you too. Apologies if my earlier post seemed little patronising, it was unintentional. I myself wouldn't want to kiss a girl with a piercing per se, but I'd definitely give it a shot once if it was out there. EDIT 1: Spelllingg
Saya Hime	Posted - 2007.08.31 02:43:00 - [26] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Personally the pain wasn't bad for me because 1) My artist is awesome at tattooing and knows how to cause little pain and 2) I put my mind somewhere else while they do it. Love and Pain CRAZY DIARHEA FTW ººº Nah just kidding the kanjis seem to be ok.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.08.31 03:05:00 - [27] Originally by: Imperator Jora'h Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 31/08/2007 00:01:01 Why? I mean this seriously. Why? I'm a touch on the hyperactive / ADD side. I always have to be doing SOMETHING or I can't think straight. I got my tongue pierced because I used to chew on things, quite a few of which had no business being in my mouth. So instead of tapping my fingers, tapping my toes, fiddling with objects, chewing on pens, etc, I can play with my tongue ring. Nobody notices, so no one is bothered. My boss asked me to take it out once. After several hours of me fidgeting, she told me to put the damn thing back in and never take it out.
Avery Eclipsen Minmatar Through the Ashes of Empires	Posted - 2007.08.31 03:17:00 - [28] well, i just tried it. used a safety pin, got it through my bottom lip, took it out, tried to get the ring in..... righ wnt through the outside of my lip easily but i couldent get it through the other side, i pushed pretty hard.. the hole was too small for the ring btw no pain or blood at all, doesnt even hurt now after like 4 hours. going to wait a couple weeks for this to heal and then do it with a 16 gauge hollow needle (piercing needle) ___________________________________________
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.31 03:44:00 - [29] Originally by: Avery Eclipsen well, i just tried it. used a safety pin, got it through my bottom lip, took it out, tried to get the ring in..... righ wnt through the outside of my lip easily but i couldent get it through the other side, i pushed pretty hard.. the hole was too small for the ring btw no pain or blood at all, doesnt even hurt now after like 4 hours. going to wait a couple weeks for this to heal and then do it with a 16 gauge hollow needle (piercing needle) Theres a true rebel . Everyone advises against doing a personal job and he stabs himself. I salute you. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.08.31 03:54:00 - [30] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Avery Eclipsen well, i just tried it. used a safety pin, got it through my bottom lip, took it out, tried to get the ring in..... righ wnt through the outside of my lip easily but i couldent get it through the other side, i pushed pretty hard.. the hole was too small for the ring btw no pain or blood at all, doesnt even hurt now after like 4 hours. going to wait a couple weeks for this to heal and then do it with a 16 gauge hollow needle (piercing needle) Theres a true rebel . Everyone advises against doing a personal job and he stabs himself. I salute you. Doing things yourself often leads to them being done crooked or just placed wrong. This is why we have other people cut our hair, examine our wounds, and pierce our bodies. There is no reasonable excuse for you to self pierce. Its all an attention grab, the whole "yeah, I did all this myself" to make you sound tough with the ladies. Make sure to tell them you did it with an unsterilized cloths pin and used an unsterilized piece of jewelry. Lockjaw ftw.
Avery Eclipsen Minmatar Through the Ashes of Empires	Posted - 2007.08.31 04:17:00 - [31] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Avery Eclipsen well, i just tried it. used a safety pin, got it through my bottom lip, took it out, tried to get the ring in..... righ wnt through the outside of my lip easily but i couldent get it through the other side, i pushed pretty hard.. the hole was too small for the ring btw no pain or blood at all, doesnt even hurt now after like 4 hours. going to wait a couple weeks for this to heal and then do it with a 16 gauge hollow needle (piercing needle) Theres a true rebel . Everyone advises against doing a personal job and he stabs himself. I salute you. Doing things yourself often leads to them being done crooked or just placed wrong. This is why we have other people cut our hair, examine our wounds, and pierce our bodies. There is no reasonable excuse for you to self pierce. Its all an attention grab, the whole "yeah, I did all this myself" to make you sound tough with the ladies. Make sure to tell them you did it with an unsterilized cloths pin and used an unsterilized piece of jewelry. Lockjaw ftw. lol i boiled the ring and the needle and then put them in a bowl of alcohol before i did anything, and i put it right in the center of my lip, no blood no pain AT ALL ___________________________________________
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.08.31 04:34:00 - [32] Originally by: Avery Eclipsen Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Avery Eclipsen well, i just tried it. used a safety pin, got it through my bottom lip, took it out, tried to get the ring in..... righ wnt through the outside of my lip easily but i couldent get it through the other side, i pushed pretty hard.. the hole was too small for the ring btw no pain or blood at all, doesnt even hurt now after like 4 hours. going to wait a couple weeks for this to heal and then do it with a 16 gauge hollow needle (piercing needle) Theres a true rebel . Everyone advises against doing a personal job and he stabs himself. I salute you. Doing things yourself often leads to them being done crooked or just placed wrong. This is why we have other people cut our hair, examine our wounds, and pierce our bodies. There is no reasonable excuse for you to self pierce. Its all an attention grab, the whole "yeah, I did all this myself" to make you sound tough with the ladies. Make sure to tell them you did it with an unsterilized cloths pin and used an unsterilized piece of jewelry. Lockjaw ftw. lol i boiled the ring and the needle and then put them in a bowl of alcohol before i did anything, and i put it right in the center of my lip, no blood no pain AT ALL How long did you boil the equipment and what concentration was the alcohol? It takes 30 minutes of constant boiling of water to kill all the micro-organisms, and nothing short of 95% - 100% rubbing alcohol will completely sterilize things. As well, did you wear the proper gloves to prevent contamination during this procedure?
Saya Hime	Posted - 2007.08.31 04:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Derovius Vaden There is no reasonable excuse for you to self pierce. Its all an attention grab, the whole "yeah, I did all this myself" to make you sound tough with the ladies. Make sure to tell them you did it with an unsterilized cloths pin and used an unsterilized piece of jewelry. Lockjaw ftw. Self piercing is something widespread when you get more involved in this 'hobby'. There's nothing really complicated, you just have to know what you do and to be meticulous. Don't drink and smoke a few days before, disinfect the aera, and pierce with sterilized single-use cannula/cathether/serynge. And you are made. I've seen people self-piercing their nose (not the nostril, the cartilage) without problem. To be really honest I must say that there's lots of vessels and nerves people may not be aware of. I decline personal responsability if you got half your face paralyzed or you empty yourself from blood.
Avery Eclipsen Minmatar Through the Ashes of Empires	Posted - 2007.08.31 04:41:00 - [34] boiled them for 45 mins while playing bf2, alcohol was 95%, ive been preparing for this for a couple days, wore latex gloves, cleaned my lip with iodine, also washed out my mouth with mouth rinse ___________________________________________
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.08.31 04:42:00 - [35] Originally by: Avery Eclipsen boiled them for 45 mins while playing bf2, alcohol was 95%, ive been preparing for this for a couple days, wore latex gloves, cleaned my lip with iodine, also washed out my mouth with mouth rinse Fair enough.
Saya Hime	Posted - 2007.08.31 04:48:00 - [36] Edited by: Saya Hime on 31/08/2007 04:49:38 Correct me if I'm wrong but iirc 70% alcohol is better than 90% one.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.08.31 04:50:00 - [37] Originally by: Saya Hime Correct me if I'm wrong but iirc 70% alcool is better than 90% one. No, the higher the concentration the alcohol, the faster it will react. What the problem is with high concentrations of alcohol is that they evaporate really quickly, if he left his sterilization dish open to the air for an hour or so with 90% - 100% alcohol, it would be dye as a bone.
Avery Eclipsen Minmatar Through the Ashes of Empires	Posted - 2007.08.31 04:51:00 - [38] only thing that went wrong is that i didnt have the correct tools, as i dont know where to find them ___________________________________________
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.08.31 04:51:00 - [39] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Originally by: Sharupak Originally by: Saya Hime What you need is a catheter, betadine and balls. And a bottle of mescal after you stop the bleeding...(Not before that was my ****up when I did my own tongue! Thought I was gonna bleed to death!) You pierced your own tongue??? Hold on... where'd I put that Cluepon FYI: the tongue contains an artery About 1 inch in from the tip and centerline. You will miss it. But that was almost 10 years ago. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.08.31 04:55:00 - [40] As a correction to what I said previously, the microbe kill rate is slower on higher concentrations but it will kill more of the microbes. My sources are of course, wikipedia.
Saya Hime	Posted - 2007.08.31 05:01:00 - [41] Originally by: Avery Eclipsen only thing that went wrong is that i didnt have the correct tools, as i dont know where to find them Pharmacy/drugstores?
Avery Eclipsen Minmatar Through the Ashes of Empires	Posted - 2007.08.31 05:03:00 - [42] Originally by: Saya Hime Originally by: Avery Eclipsen only thing that went wrong is that i didnt have the correct tools, as i dont know where to find them Pharmacy/drugstores? they have 16 gauge hollow needles? ___________________________________________
Saya Hime	Posted - 2007.08.31 05:12:00 - [43] Originally by: Avery Eclipsen Originally by: Saya Hime Originally by: Avery Eclipsen only thing that went wrong is that i didnt have the correct tools, as i dont know where to find them Pharmacy/drugstores? they have 16 gauge hollow needles? Ok I checked the gauge thingy (mtric system user here). o_O Well I don't know, here you can buy syringes, don't know about the size though. One solution is veterinary material (seen that allready).
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.08.31 06:08:00 - [44] Originally by: Avery Eclipsen boiled them for 45 mins while playing bf2, alcohol was 95%, ive been preparing for this for a couple days, wore latex gloves, cleaned my lip with iodine, also washed out my mouth with mouth rinse Well hell, you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to use a safety pin, preferably rusty and removed from your pants. You're supposed to be drunk and rinse your mouth out with whiskey, and only pierce when your hands are greasy from working at the drive-thru oil change all day. Total self-piercing etiquette faux pas.
Avery Eclipsen Minmatar Through the Ashes of Empires	Posted - 2007.08.31 06:24:00 - [45] starting to get a little bit of swelling, no pain though ___________________________________________
sugark Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.08.31 06:34:00 - [46] Oh god - I used to have a lip piercing and I had some home-made piercings aswell, but home-made lip piercing makes me cringe. That¦s a lot of flesh to poke through. Good luck - hope you don¦t hit a nerve. _______________________________________________ Click pic to get a sig!
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.08.31 07:15:00 - [47] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Avery Eclipsen well, i just tried it. used a safety pin, got it through my bottom lip, took it out, tried to get the ring in..... righ wnt through the outside of my lip easily but i couldent get it through the other side, i pushed pretty hard.. the hole was too small for the ring btw no pain or blood at all, doesnt even hurt now after like 4 hours. going to wait a couple weeks for this to heal and then do it with a 16 gauge hollow needle (piercing needle) Theres a true rebel . Everyone advises against doing a personal job and he stabs himself. I salute you. yeah man way to go. I'll talk to you again when your FACE is gangrenous. After you pierce your lip you need something inserted there for the wound to heal AROUND, so next time use the bigger needle you have, and just JAM that piercing in baby. You should be fine. Remember to douse the wound in mucho antiseptics like betadine, medical alcohol, or jack daniels. Also, dont skint in your piercing: in FACT. You can get titanium or even tungsten piercings. Now I KNOW you fire tungsten slugs in EVE, imagine having a Tungsten piercing. very risque. Seriously though people, check out the tungsten stuff it's cool, and is scratchproof and oxidizationproof. ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." Originally by: Royaldo complete win by Cornucopian!
Kastar Memphis Technologies	Posted - 2007.08.31 08:53:00 - [48] great, now go do a job interview with that piercing in -----------------------------------------------
XrayZII	Posted - 2007.08.31 09:15:00 - [49] Edited by: XrayZII on 31/08/2007 09:17:40 do whatever u like... piercings can be removed if u dont like them. but go to a professional for gods sake. never know what kind of nasty infections u can get when u do it by urself. oh, and make one in the toung, way better and it has some kind of use EDIT: didnt read all the posts and now i c that you¦ve already done it... grats! now go for the nose, toung, eyebrow (ouch) and a PA :D >> bleh...
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.08.31 10:00:00 - [50] Originally by: Mikala Mara I just read in the paper a few days ago that 30-40% of all those getting a tongue or lip piercing develop problems with their teeth. The gums retract slightly, exposing more of the teeth, which can then cause all kinds of problems, so keep that in mind as well trufax. i had a labrette in, and i got my piercer to mount it as low as possible, unfortunately because of the angle the back of the jewellery rubbed on my gums and actually wore down the gum on one of my bottom teeth. i took the thing out as soon as i noticed and now, a few years later, it's still not ******* grown back :\|
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.08.31 11:21:00 - [51] Originally by: Kastar great, now go do a job interview with that piercing in Flaming Amy's Burrito Barn in lovely Wilmington, NC, considers the number of tattoos and piercings during hiring, and the more the better. They have a deal with a local shop and get you a discount on additional tattoos and piercings while employed. They also have Tattoo Tuesday, where if you show a tat, you get 10% off.
ivar R'dhak STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.08.31 12:04:00 - [52] Piercings and tattoos are marks of the weakwilled trying to fit in with their respective hip crowds. In past times these were markings of barbaric cultures or slaves. So pierce away my friend. _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Kastar Memphis Technologies	Posted - 2007.08.31 12:20:00 - [53] Edited by: Kastar on 31/08/2007 12:22:49 Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Kastar great, now go do a job interview with that piercing in Flaming Amy's Burrito Barn in lovely Wilmington, NC, considers the number of tattoos and piercings during hiring, and the more the better. They have a deal with a local shop and get you a discount on additional tattoos and piercings while employed. They also have Tattoo Tuesday, where if you show a tat, you get 10% off. No, seriously People always consider how cool these piercings are and such, but please consider this. Reading your post and the precautions you took (hell, even the fact you asked for advice) shows you're not an average joe and that you at least have some sense. I also considered piercings, tattoos and whatever during college, and boy am I glad I didn't take them. First of all, if you say that they don't cause physical harm or annoyances, I think you're being silly. Second, I meant what I say. Try to get a serious highlevel job with those things in your head and it's a guaranteed fast way home. Third, perhaps this is the best argument... it seriously limits the sort of chicks you can dig Wouldn't want the weird metal enhanced girls in my vicinity... I always heard people brag they didn't want to be like everyone else, that they don't want to get a certain "label" and it's usually these people that get tattoos and such to be some sort of different... Well, consider you're attaining exactly the opposite of what you'd like. If you really want to be special, do it by the way you act and act smarter then the rest, make a good living and use society, not react on it. That being said, I have little kids. If they grow up and they want one... I'm not going to react, but give them the same advise, on condition they're above a certain age. Their body and their life... but at one point or another they'll understand dad cared, just like my mom did. I'm getting all emo, but make your behaviour speak for yoursef, not a piece of metal in your face. EDIT: Why do you need a piercing per se if you're spending your evenings alone before the pc with an avatar not resembling yourself -----------------------------------------------
Layrex Caldari	Posted - 2007.08.31 13:53:00 - [54] I have quite a few tattoo's. Got a Star Trek one on my foot the other day
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.08.31 14:15:00 - [55] Originally by: ivar R'dhak Piercings and tattoos are marks of the weakwilled trying to fit in with their respective hip crowds. In past times these were markings of barbaric cultures or slaves. So pierce away my friend. Trolling on the internet is a mark of the weakwilled trying to fit in with their respective hip crowd.
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.31 15:34:00 - [56] Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Kastar great, now go do a job interview with that piercing in Flaming Amy's Burrito Barn in lovely Wilmington, NC, considers the number of tattoos and piercings during hiring, and the more the better. They have a deal with a local shop and get you a discount on additional tattoos and piercings while employed. They also have Tattoo Tuesday, where if you show a tat, you get 10% off. Sweet, he can get a job at a glorified Taco Bell! When I started my job at HP I worked in lifetest testing printers (a trained monkey can do this job). I was surrounded by guys that had full sleeves and the huge earrings and what ever else. Hell one guy reminded me of a zulu warrior. All these guys had already worked here longer than me. 5 years later I've moved up the ranks quickly and am now a R&D tech and those other guys, a few are still in lifetest. I know the zulu warrior works at a tattoo shop (which is about the best job they can get at this point), I found another one working at a gas station, and a few others throwing freight at wal-mart. Of course getting a promotion is based on way more than tattooes and piercings but it's like they always say, the first impression is always the most important. On a side note, tattoo artist can make alot of money. I haven't talked to mine in years now but when I was getting my stuff done, I remember they always had a full book and the waiting period was always about a month. And my shoulder alone with just black ink has costed about $450 so far. Piercings generally aren't that bad priced depending on location although it's horifying to watch them pierce a customers tongue (I've seen torture techniques that were kinder). ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.31 15:43:00 - [57] Originally by: ivar R'dhak Piercings and tattoos are marks of the weakwilled trying to fit in with their respective hip crowds. In past times these were markings of barbaric cultures or slaves. So pierce away my friend. History of tattoo's BTW, anyone else notice he put tattoo's on his avatar's face? ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.08.31 15:43:00 - [58] Mein gott! If I had a webcam you'd see my face all screwed up from sqeamishness reading this thread!
Daedalus DuGalle Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2007.08.31 16:08:00 - [59] Speaking of sticking metals things in your body, I personally would never get a piercing. I'm scared of needles and stuff. But given the chance, I'd volunteer to become a cyborg (preferably with a wireless card) without hesitating! Originally by: Janu Hull Nothing says gritty cynicism like a 1 ISK note wedged between a pair of silicone enhanced knockers.
Avery Eclipsen Minmatar Through the Ashes of Empires	Posted - 2007.08.31 17:12:00 - [60] Originally by: Kastar Edited by: Kastar on 31/08/2007 12:22:49 Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Kastar great, now go do a job interview with that piercing in Flaming Amy's Burrito Barn in lovely Wilmington, NC, considers the number of tattoos and piercings during hiring, and the more the better. They have a deal with a local shop and get you a discount on additional tattoos and piercings while employed. They also have Tattoo Tuesday, where if you show a tat, you get 10% off. No, seriously People always consider how cool these piercings are and such, but please consider this. Reading your post and the precautions you took (hell, even the fact you asked for advice) shows you're not an average joe and that you at least have some sense. I also considered piercings, tattoos and whatever during college, and boy am I glad I didn't take them. First of all, if you say that they don't cause physical harm or annoyances, I think you're being silly. Second, I meant what I say. Try to get a serious highlevel job with those things in your head and it's a guaranteed fast way home. Third, perhaps this is the best argument... it seriously limits the sort of chicks you can dig Wouldn't want the weird metal enhanced girls in my vicinity... EDIT: Why do you need a piercing per se if you're spending your evenings alone before the pc with an avatar not resembling yourself what if those chicks are the ones i dig? and i only spend about 4 hours on eve a week (started a new char and training everything before i can play) most of my time is spent out chasing girls and partying. ___________________________________________
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.08.31 17:56:00 - [61] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Kastar great, now go do a job interview with that piercing in Flaming Amy's Burrito Barn in lovely Wilmington, NC, considers the number of tattoos and piercings during hiring, and the more the better. They have a deal with a local shop and get you a discount on additional tattoos and piercings while employed. They also have Tattoo Tuesday, where if you show a tat, you get 10% off. Sweet, he can get a job at a glorified Taco Bell! Blasphemy! Look upon the Burrito Barn, ye mighty, and despair! Six lb. burrito > you.
Kastar Memphis Technologies	Posted - 2007.08.31 18:14:00 - [62] Originally by: Avery Eclipsen Text That's what I mean. You imit your options. Anyhow, I won't argue. You have my respect for knowing what you want. That's worth a lot too. Cudos for being careful Kas -----------------------------------------------
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.08.31 18:18:00 - [63] Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Kastar great, now go do a job interview with that piercing in Flaming Amy's Burrito Barn in lovely Wilmington, NC, considers the number of tattoos and piercings during hiring, and the more the better. They have a deal with a local shop and get you a discount on additional tattoos and piercings while employed. They also have Tattoo Tuesday, where if you show a tat, you get 10% off. Sweet, he can get a job at a glorified Taco Bell! Blasphemy! Look upon the Burrito Barn, ye mighty, and despair! Six lb. burrito > you. 6lb burrito = me blowing my colon for 16 hours straight ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Avery Eclipsen Minmatar Through the Ashes of Empires	Posted - 2007.09.01 03:40:00 - [64] lol @ thread, well yeah heres an update, no swelling at all, no pain, no puss. i think i did a good job :) Healing up nicely. ___________________________________________
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.09.01 07:26:00 - [65] Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 01/09/2007 07:26:37 Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Kastar great, now go do a job interview 6lb burrito = me blowing my colon for 16 hours straight I accept your challenge! Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ~Liz Kali
Raynes Orbis	Posted - 2007.09.01 08:43:00 - [66] To the OP: you got to be kidding. Want a serious infection? A black lip? Or perhaps some serious mutation there? Unless you are more than a hobbyist, go get one done at a professional.
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.01 17:29:00 - [67] 2 other experiences I remember. Had a friend get 2 eye piercings. Dude looked like he got into a massive fight with 2 black eyes for a week. I used to go to punk shows and at one we were in the mosh pit and I'm not sure what happened but apparrantly some one got into a fight with a friend of mine and before anyone coud break it up my friend grabbed this dudes lip piercing and ripped it right out. Guys got a pretty gnarly scar now. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Avery Eclipsen Minmatar Through the Ashes of Empires	Posted - 2007.09.01 22:56:00 - [68] i said im going to do it, as in ive already made up my mind, i just asked for tips lol ___________________________________________
Layrex Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.01 23:20:00 - [69] Originally by: Avery Eclipsen i said im going to do it, as in ive already made up my mind, i just asked for tips lol Ignore them people are just silly! It all depends on age and the social circle you're in. I'm guessing like myself you and your friends are considered pretty 'alternative' right? Where piercings and tattoos arnt a big deal. Just make sure you go to a piercer mate, it's sooooooo much safer. And i'd say the lip hurts too much to do yourself really.
Micheal Dietrich Cynical Cartel	Posted - 2007.09.02 00:15:00 - [70] Originally by: Layrex Originally by: Avery Eclipsen i said im going to do it, as in ive already made up my mind, i just asked for tips lol Ignore them people are just silly! It all depends on age and the social circle you're in. I'm guessing like myself you and your friends are considered pretty 'alternative' right? Where piercings and tattoos arnt a big deal. Just make sure you go to a piercer mate, it's sooooooo much safer. And i'd say the lip hurts too much to do yourself really. Most of us ain't trying to talk him out of it, we just suggested going to a specialist. ___________________________ Never Forget, Never Forgive
Saya Hime	Posted - 2007.09.02 00:21:00 - [71] Don't forget to post a photo as soon as you do it.
Avery Eclipsen Minmatar Through the Ashes of Empires	Posted - 2007.09.02 06:19:00 - [72] ide post a pic but its a small red dot on my lip lol, once i get the ring in il take many pics ___________________________________________
ivar R'dhak STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.09.02 23:49:00 - [73] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Originally by: ivar R'dhak Piercings and tattoos are marks of the weakwilled trying to fit in with their respective hip crowds. In past times these were markings of barbaric cultures or slaves. So pierce away my friend. History of tattoo's BTW, anyone else notice he put tattoo's on his avatar's face? Mmk, computergame avatar = RL face. Right. Maybe my 1st post was slightly trollish, but then again not that far off from the mark. Never wondered why suddenly all chicks had to have that sl#tstamp riding the cleavage of their buttocks? Same difference. ¦bout the only tatoos I have respect for are the Yakuza fullbody ones, which indeed sprang from the barbaric practise of marking criminals. Wearing one of those really f#cks up your life and thus is a genuine statement of your inner self. All else is just vanity. _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦

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