The only time GM's ever get involved is when you do this in the 1.0 security systems where newbies start out. Can baiting/harrassing newbies in their training systems is verboten.

I will have to ask where he was. It was not specified by my corp mate if it was in 1.0 or elsewhere. Although, Myself, and other corp mates alike, flipped for quite sometime in Jouvalen before moving to Amarr space and never once had been contacted by a GM. I understand if they do it just in newbie systems, since too many new characters get scarred away.

Is this a new thing?

Also, post with your main.

Is this a new thing?

It's not a new thing, cowards have relied on killing noobs rather than doing real PvP since day one.

It's not a new thing, cowards have relied on killing noobs rather than doing real PvP since day one.

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I will have to ask where he was. It was not specified by my corp mate if it was in 1.0 or elsewhere.
Is this a new thing?

You're shooting 1 day old characters. He's right.

I've seen OLD characters fall for can flipping.

If CCP didn't want it as a part of the game, they would eliminate the mechanics. But they didn't.

They actually tweaked the mechanics to make it more 1v1 capable.


troll elsewhere

I like the troll elsewhere reply in response to everyone when its clear you defend the right to canflip in noob systems.

I like the troll elsewhere reply in response to everyone when its clear you defend the right to canflip in noob systems.

It's has a new name, it's called bait canning, apparently.

quote me where i defended the right to can flip in rookie systems please. because i didn't.

I've seen OLD characters fall for can flipping.

If CCP didn't want it as a part of the game, they would eliminate the mechanics. But they didn't.

They actually tweaked the mechanics to make it more 1v1 capable.


troll elsewhere

quote me where i defended the right to can flip in rookie systems please. because i didn't. I defend the right to can flip, regardless of location. If CCP would like it be done else where, then it will be done else where. This thread for for clarification of the rules, not to ask everyone's opinion on can flipping.

If you are into 1000 man blob fleets that lag you to the point of exhaustion, that is fine. If you like to sit on a LS gate with a 20 man fleet to wait on the 1 guy to come through from HS to gank him, that's fine too.

did you read all my posts?

quote me where i defended the right to can flip in rookie systems please. because i didn't.

I defend the right to can flip, regardless of location.

They don't, that's why you get a ban for flipping noobs. Also, troll alts can't complain about trolling.

bait canning (IMO) involves you changing the name of your can to "free stuff" and popping noobs.

That is cowardice and foolish.

But stealing from a can and the person shooting at you for it, and you getting to fight him and any corpies that come along (by yourself) is not not bait canning.

Sure.

I will have to ask where he was. It was not specified by my corp mate if it was in 1.0 or elsewhere. Although, Myself, and other corp mates alike, flipped for quite sometime in Jouvalen before moving to Amarr space and never once had been contacted by a GM. I understand if they do it just in newbie systems, since too many new characters get scarred away.

Is this a new thing?

It's not a new thing, cowards have relied on killing noobs rather than doing real PvP since day one.

It is not our fault that someone read the message that says "this person and their entire corp can shoot you", and they still clicked YES. This is now THEIR fault and any repercussions are no fault of our own.

quote me where i defended the right to can flip in rookie systems please. because i didn't.

I defend the right to can flip, regardless of location

regardless of location

regardless of location

regardless of location

It's nothing todo with the sec of the system only the age of the player.

This is CLASSIC anti-social personality disorder.

As to the first claim: It is YOUR fault this happens. This is the SOLE reason you do it, on the hope that someone will not realize what it is they are doing, and will click it without realizing the implications, on the desire just to get THEIR stuff back.

As to the second claim: How is it that they are responsible for YOUR conscious and independent actions? Just because someone is now a legal target does not mean that you MUST shoot them. Your ship does not auto lock them and your weapons do not automatically begin firing.


The symptoms of this disorder include:

Lack of concern regarding societyGÇÖs rules and expectations
Repeated violations of the rights of others
Tendencies toward physical aggression and extreme irritability
Lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another

It's not a new thing, cowards have relied on killing noobs rather than doing real PvP since day one.

OP deserves to get banned for flipping noobs, but shooting internet spaceships in a game about shooting internet spaceships is hardly indicative of being anti-social. If anything, given the framework of the game, it's quite social indeed.