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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.09.02 14:56:00 -
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Can it be done?
EVE War I - Quick Overview (Feb/March)
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Alty MacAlterson
Alt Corporation Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:04:00 -
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Sure, why not.
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Taran Summers
The Merovingians
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: Taran Summers on 02/09/2007 15:04:18 Short answer. No.
Long answer. If you approached MC with a brilliant plan on how to defeat MC and provided the finances to cover the risk and a healthy profit then MC might be able to take out MC for you. This really is a "How would Chuck Norris kill Chuck Norris" question.
1st in an epic thread. (Blast Second had to edit.) |

Alty MacAlterson
Alt Corporation Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:05:00 -
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Edited by: Alty MacAlterson on 02/09/2007 15:05:15
Originally by: Taran Summers Edited by: Taran Summers on 02/09/2007 15:04:18 This really is a "How would Chuck Norris kill Chuck Norris" question.
With a roundhouse kick, duh.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:12:00 -
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*Click* Filtered. Kthxbai
Rabblerabble -Sahwoolo |

Mr Broker
Station Gremlings
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Taran Summers Edited by: Taran Summers on 02/09/2007 15:04:18 Short answer. No.
Long answer. If you approached MC with a brilliant plan on how to defeat MC and provided the finances to cover the risk and a healthy profit then MC might be able to take out MC for you. This really is a "How would Chuck Norris kill Chuck Norris" question.
1st in an epic thread. (Blast Second had to edit.)
good post 
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Chirinako
Caldari KDM Corp Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:26:00 -
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This thread fails. I was hoping for a cunning declaration of war by someone stating the end of MC is near 
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Feterous Jolin
Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2007.09.02 15:37:00 -
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Contact me in game to talk about payment...I have no doubt I could single handedly ninja the MC alliance. For a bit extra, i'll steal thier titan and hand it over too!!! 
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.02 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr *Click* Filtered. Kthxbai
Oh yes.  -----
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe] |

Major Stormer
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.09.02 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Taran Summers Edited by: Taran Summers on 02/09/2007 15:04:18 Short answer. No.
Long answer. If you approached MC with a brilliant plan on how to defeat MC and provided the finances to cover the risk and a healthy profit then MC might be able to take out MC for you. This really is a "How would Chuck Norris kill Chuck Norris" question.
1st in an epic thread. (Blast Second had to edit.)
 --- Eve Tribune Writer- come and read :) |
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.02 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Taran Summers hort answer. No.
Long answer. If you approached MC with a brilliant plan on how to defeat MC and provided the finances to cover the risk and a healthy profit then MC might be able to take out MC for you. This really is a "How would Chuck Norris kill Chuck Norris" question.
Is this a clever attempt to bribe me in some way??   -
THIS FLEET FOR RENT! |

Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.02 17:32:00 -
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MC will basically fade into obscurity after they're kicked out of Period Basis
Originally by: Khavi Vetali
Oh don't worry, the goons are just as suicidal with their battleships as they are with their frigates.
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fightnkill
Greenspring
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Posted - 2007.09.02 17:58:00 -
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If you hire someone way more efficient then MC to decimate MC, it can be done.
But atm, There arn't any big groups that's highly as efficient as MC.
but if there were like 500 Burn Eden members, they could easily do the job? 
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Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.02 19:08:00 -
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MC's fate is pretty closely tied to that of BoB.
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.02 19:19:00 -
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Our weakness is beer. If you mail us beer from your exotic homelands, we will succumb to that achilles heal, and anarchy shall reign.
really.
BAWK!
http://nhimebaugh.wetpaint.com/ Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Jonny Damordred
Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.02 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: fightnkill but if there were like 500 Burn Eden members, they could easily do the job? 
Just as long as SATAN's alarm clock doesn't go off to early...
Cheers, Jonny D. -----
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Audri Fisher
Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.09.02 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Scatim Helicon MC's fate is pretty closely tied to that of BoB.
yep
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Moofles
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Posted - 2007.09.02 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Scatim Helicon MC's fate is pretty closely tied to that of BoB.

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Taran Summers
The Merovingians
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Posted - 2007.09.02 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Taran Summers hort answer. No.
Long answer. If you approached MC with a brilliant plan on how to defeat MC and provided the finances to cover the risk and a healthy profit then MC might be able to take out MC for you. This really is a "How would Chuck Norris kill Chuck Norris" question.
Is this a clever attempt to bribe me in some way??  
Not unless your looking for a pilot with less than 20 million sp. But witty as all get out. 
And when I bribe its with untraceable precious jewels. Or veldspar if its Chribba.
Seriously though. No, I don't think any single standing force right now could defeat the MC. From what I've read and what after battle footage I've taken the time to analyze, they're so very professional in their approach to combat (within the limits of a game environment) it allows them to fight much larger numbers of lesser organized forces at any time, even on multiple fronts (even taking the superiority of a lot of their equipment out of the equation).
If you managed to stand up to the raw firepower that they will surprise you with (right where your weakest defense is, bet on it). And then cleared out their manufacturing strength and pushed them into a guerilla war, it would just get worse for the aggressor. Because once freed from territorial defense responsibilities, they'd truly be able to focus entirely on their attacker, which given the way eve is setup, would find it nearly impossible to defend against a highly mobile hit-and-run force. So instead of being crushed by a surprise sledgehammer blow, you'd suffer the death of a thousand cuts later. Either way, an attacking force would lose. They day you took their territory would be when they shifted from intimidating to terrifying.
I'd also be absolutely stunned if the MC didn't have the materials in reserve to get new manufacturing outposts up and running within a few days of losing their entire current territory. They seem like they've got one or more tacticians that understand that three plans are best. The one you show, the one you do, and the ace in the hole that lets you reset the board if you start losing.
So no. Right now, ship for ship or leader for leader, MC wouldn't lose. You might be able to get them with a massive superiority of numbers. But, risking being cliche here, it would be like watching 300. They might go, but they won't go alone, and they'd cripple whoever it was that tried that approach.
Sorry for rambling, that's what happens when you marry into a family of military historians, it starts rubbing off on you.
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Gurbeta
Gurbeta Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.02 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Taran Summers
Seriously though. No, I don't think any single standing force right now could defeat the MC. From what I've read and what after battle footage I've taken the time to analyze, they're so very professional in their approach to combat (within the limits of a game environment) it allows them to fight much larger numbers of lesser organized forces at any time, even on multiple fronts (even taking the superiority of a lot of their equipment out of the equation).
tbh i stopped reading after this part cause it is very very wrong
mc alone can't take out any serious entity (ie bob, ra, mm, rzr, tri, goons (yes they are serious entity kinda)...) they choose their contracts and dont accept any that looks hard enough... or they do and they fail like against mm in north when they actually did fight alone
even when they screw up and take contract they cant fulfill, or think they cant, they dont involve capitals, till they see which way conflict is going (if it isnt going so good they'll just say - 'Hey we had a contract which didnt involve taking stations')
all their major deeds arent their alone, they had loads of 'friendlies' on their side (ie destroying allready destroyed alliance - D2, 'defending' fix - still nto finished, etc)
if you are refering only to unorganized forces as you mentioned in your post, you can send outbreak they would do nice against such, so no mc isnt only one
and fightning on multiple fronts is one thing mc never done (unles you think fighning npcs on alt tab and waiting for battle at main account, is fightning on multiple fronts)
flame all you want, but above text isnt very far from truth
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Ackaroth
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.02 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Gurbeta
mc alone can't take out any serious entity (ie bob, ra, mm, rzr, tri, goons (yes they are serious entity kinda)...)
Have to say I think you are wrong on that one. There are a few groups there that 1v1 couldnt stand against MC. I wont comment on whether my alliance is one of them 
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SasRipper
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2007.09.02 20:20:00 -
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bah fools mc true weakness is not bob but Chribba
Without there sigs & vids they will melt! Hire Chribba to remove there files & they will die
*snip* Sas has spoken this tread shall be locked. |

Gurbeta
Gurbeta Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.02 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ackaroth
Originally by: Gurbeta
mc alone can't take out any serious entity (ie bob, ra, mm, rzr, tri, goons (yes they are serious entity kinda)...)
Have to say I think you are wrong on that one. There are a few groups there that 1v1 couldnt stand against MC. I wont comment on whether my alliance is one of them 
i seriously doubt it (maybe goons but they gots suas:P), rzr maybe (only cause their fc's are immature when it comes to certain things - not directly related to pvp), but not the others. mm didnt ever show their full strength (they will only when their stations come to danger, which is kinda selfish but... meh), bob and ra are no need to comment... TRI are pure class, and they still didnt have chance to bring it all... but with such ammount of top pvp-ers, with awsome leaders, with pwning karma... drow your own conclusions :p
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Krexus
Amarr Serenity Prime Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.02 20:46:00 -
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MC > MC ?
Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for.
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.02 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Gurbeta
Originally by: Taran Summers
Seriously though. No, I don't think any single standing force right now could defeat the MC. From what I've read and what after battle footage I've taken the time to analyze, they're so very professional in their approach to combat (within the limits of a game environment) it allows them to fight much larger numbers of lesser organized forces at any time, even on multiple fronts (even taking the superiority of a lot of their equipment out of the equation).
tbh i stopped reading after this part cause it is very very wrong
mc alone can't take out any serious entity (ie bob, ra, mm, rzr, tri, goons (yes they are serious entity kinda)...) they choose their contracts and dont accept any that looks hard enough... or they do and they fail like against mm in north when they actually did fight alone
even when they screw up and take contract they cant fulfill, or think they cant, they dont involve capitals, till they see which way conflict is going (if it isnt going so good they'll just say - 'Hey we had a contract which didnt involve taking stations')
all their major deeds arent their alone, they had loads of 'friendlies' on their side (ie destroying allready destroyed alliance - D2, 'defending' fix - still nto finished, etc)
if you are refering only to unorganized forces as you mentioned in your post, you can send outbreak they would do nice against such, so no mc isnt only one
and fightning on multiple fronts is one thing mc never done (unles you think fighning npcs on alt tab and waiting for battle at main account, is fightning on multiple fronts)
flame all you want, but above text isnt very far from truth
Think next time please ----
Everything I say represents my corporation and their views.
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.09.02 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Berrik Radhok MC will basically fade into obscurity after they're kicked out of Period Basis
Someone put this in the ARCHIVE OF STUPID THINGS SAID BY GOONS THAT CAN BE QUOTED ENDLESSLY ON THE BOARDS BY A ZILLION LEMMINGS ONE YEAR FROM NOW.
It's an all caps day for the REEREE BRIGADE zomg~
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Freejax
Caldari Kinetic Vector Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.09.02 20:57:00 -
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Ending MC? Well, Alliance level based, most probably, though that counts for all alliances. Wil they reform after it happens? Probably not, EVE would have changed too much when that happens.
Though whatever may happen in the future, one fact is for sure, EVE will keep evolving and Corporations and Alliances will need to adjust to that same fact, who knows how the influence chart will be, 365 days from now?
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Angelonico
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.02 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Gurbeta
Originally by: Taran Summers
Seriously though. No, I don't think any single standing force right now could defeat the MC. From what I've read and what after battle footage I've taken the time to analyze, they're so very professional in their approach to combat (within the limits of a game environment) it allows them to fight much larger numbers of lesser organized forces at any time, even on multiple fronts (even taking the superiority of a lot of their equipment out of the equation).
tbh i stopped reading after this part cause it is very very wrong
mc alone can't take out any serious entity (ie bob, ra, mm, rzr, tri, goons (yes they are serious entity kinda)...) they choose their contracts and dont accept any that looks hard enough... or they do and they fail like against mm in north when they actually did fight alone
even when they screw up and take contract they cant fulfill, or think they cant, they dont involve capitals, till they see which way conflict is going (if it isnt going so good they'll just say - 'Hey we had a contract which didnt involve taking stations')
all their major deeds arent their alone, they had loads of 'friendlies' on their side (ie destroying allready destroyed alliance - D2, 'defending' fix - still nto finished, etc)
if you are refering only to unorganized forces as you mentioned in your post, you can send outbreak they would do nice against such, so no mc isnt only one
and fightning on multiple fronts is one thing mc never done (unles you think fighning npcs on alt tab and waiting for battle at main account, is fightning on multiple fronts)
flame all you want, but above text isnt very far from truth
Think next time please
A youwhat member asking someone to think?
Lulz.
Stop posting.
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Taaketa Frist
Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:00:00 -
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If MC defeat MC. I will let MC get all of MC's resources and equipment as payment for the successful defeat of the MC. --------------
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Gurbeta
Gurbeta Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: Gurbeta
Originally by: Taran Summers
Seriously though. No, I don't think any single standing force right now could defeat the MC. From what I've read and what after battle footage I've taken the time to analyze, they're so very professional in their approach to combat (within the limits of a game environment) it allows them to fight much larger numbers of lesser organized forces at any time, even on multiple fronts (even taking the superiority of a lot of their equipment out of the equation).
tbh i stopped reading after this part cause it is very very wrong
mc alone can't take out any serious entity (ie bob, ra, mm, rzr, tri, goons (yes they are serious entity kinda)...) they choose their contracts and dont accept any that looks hard enough... or they do and they fail like against mm in north when they actually did fight alone
even when they screw up and take contract they cant fulfill, or think they cant, they dont involve capitals, till they see which way conflict is going (if it isnt going so good they'll just say - 'Hey we had a contract which didnt involve taking stations')
all their major deeds arent their alone, they had loads of 'friendlies' on their side (ie destroying allready destroyed alliance - D2, 'defending' fix - still nto finished, etc)
if you are refering only to unorganized forces as you mentioned in your post, you can send outbreak they would do nice against such, so no mc isnt only one
and fightning on multiple fronts is one thing mc never done (unles you think fighning npcs on alt tab and waiting for battle at main account, is fightning on multiple fronts)
flame all you want, but above text isnt very far from truth
Think next time please
this comming from you what mouth, it isnt time of a year for turncoating yet
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