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James CX	Posted - 2007.09.02 22:59:00 - [1] Edited by: James CX on 02/09/2007 23:04:52 Edited by: James CX on 02/09/2007 23:03:56 ---- Ok solution for the cloaking ships: Skill needed "Stealth Field Radiations" Each level of this skill will give u a chance of droping you from the cloaked ships and should start at: Level 1 - 350km Level 2 - 300km Level 3 - 250km Level 4 - 200km Level 5 - 150km Now that doesnt leaves you close enough, but to solve that problem we are gona have the "Stealth Field Inhibitor Bomb": Bomb is droped from the bomber and will emmit a blast wave that will not damage any ship but instead it disables all ships in a radius of 400km for 30 seconds. Each bomb will cost 20 milion to produce, and each scan probe specialy made to detect cloaked ships will cost 1 milion and will cover the entire solarsystem. RECONS AND COVERT OPS - These ships are impossible to be detected by those scan probes, but the anti-cloack bombs will disable them as well and take them out of cloak! What say you? ---
sov68n Caldari RABBLE-RABBLE Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.02 23:03:00 - [2] I say its a good idea, but i didnt quite grasp this part, perhaps due to poor grammar: Originally by: James CX Skill needed "Stealth Field Radiations" Each level of this skill will drop you 50km closer chance from the cloaked ships and should be starting at 400km so: Level 1 - 350km Level 2 - 300km Level 3 - 250km Level 4 - 200km Level 5 - 150km --- the KOS killboards nerfed our kill sigs!!!
Yao Shiu	Posted - 2007.09.02 23:08:00 - [3] Originally by: sov68n I say its a good idea, but i didnt quite grasp this part, perhaps due to poor grammar: Originally by: James CX Skill needed "Stealth Field Radiations" Each level of this skill will drop you 50km closer chance from the cloaked ships and should be starting at 400km so: Level 1 - 350km Level 2 - 300km Level 3 - 250km Level 4 - 200km Level 5 - 150km ^ this, sorry.
Bosie Caldari Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.02 23:13:00 - [4] Originally by: James CX What say you? No PS, you can set that picture into a sig via settings on the left saving you from typing it into every post. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND."
Allestin Villimar	Posted - 2007.09.02 23:46:00 - [5] No. Train level 1 in radiation detection, warp, drop bomb. Find cloaker. 20 million isn't that much since even low end officer/faction gear can net 20 mil on the market, and a ratting cloaker is likely to have some of these in their cargo if not on their ship. Drop the range on the bombs to 50 km and you might have something. 400 would be enough to entirely cover fleets if you dropped it in a battlefield in the opposite side. Also, I'm against anything being able to detect cov ops/recon ships short of bumping into them. The entire point of these ships is to remain undetected. If they can't even get within 400 km, there's not much point to them at all. Especially stealth bombers.
Regaul Kinath	Posted - 2007.09.02 23:51:00 - [6] ---- Originally by: Allestin Villimar No. Train level 1 in radiation detection, warp, drop bomb. Find cloaker. 20 million isn't that much since even low end officer/faction gear can net 20 mil on the market, and a ratting cloaker is likely to have some of these in their cargo if not on their ship. Drop the range on the bombs to 50 km and you might have something. 400 would be enough to entirely cover fleets if you dropped it in a battlefield in the opposite side. Also, I'm against anything being able to detect cov ops/recon ships short of bumping into them. The entire point of these ships is to remain undetected. If they can't even get within 400 km, there's not much point to them at all. Especially stealth bombers. ---- Think you are right that would pose a problem to stealth bombers the 50km range of the bomb would be better
James CX Dark Destiny Inc. TALIONIS ALLIANCE	Posted - 2007.09.02 23:54:00 - [7] Ok changes made with the new ideas.
Veryez	Posted - 2007.09.02 23:54:00 - [8] No, Use gangs and patience to get cloaking ships. Eve is suppose to be hard, you want something you're suppose to work for it.
Spartikaz	Posted - 2007.09.02 23:57:00 - [9] I like the idea, it would be fair for everyone even for the cloackers.
Regaul Kinath	Posted - 2007.09.03 00:04:00 - [10] Edited by: Regaul Kinath on 03/09/2007 00:04:34 What about instead of disable the ship it would destroy the cloaking device?
RuleoftheBone Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.03 01:19:00 - [11] No "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles 3asy Company	Posted - 2007.09.03 01:46:00 - [12] How about leave the cloaking device alone alltogether? It works fine at the moment and doesnt need probing out. Thats the whole point of the cloaking device. You cant detect it at all. www.eve-players.com
Steve Hawkings	Posted - 2007.09.03 01:48:00 - [13] I dont get it im afraid. A solution for what exactly ?
sov68n Caldari RABBLE-RABBLE Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.03 04:24:00 - [14] Originally by: ViolenTUK How about leave the cloaking device alone alltogether? It works fine at the moment and doesnt need probing out. Thats the whole point of the cloaking device. You cant detect it at all. they should make the cloaking device not work on a raven, so that farmers can be hunted down effectively. thats what i think... --- the KOS killboards nerfed our kill sigs!!!
Bendit	Posted - 2007.09.03 05:51:00 - [15] No and yes. Limited range on the probes. If someone starts scanning for you with thoose probes I would like to know. In other words, range below 14 AU. And a higher time then the 25 sec u get now with highskilled covert op pilots.
Tairon Usaro The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.09.03 09:19:00 - [16] anything that screws with the short capabilities of a cloaking devices, such as incresed decloaking range, scanablity or de-cloak boms just completely annihlates the purpose of cloaking devices ... the only thing i would accept is to disencourage people from perma-cloaking therefore i posted an idea based on a cap-draining concept cap-draining cloaking device ________________________________________________ Some days i loose, some days the others win ...
Kaakao Insidious Existence Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.03 09:25:00 - [17] Cloaking is fine, learn to play ------- [EXIT] - IAC
Wideen Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.09.03 09:25:00 - [18] I agree with the idea that only ships meant to be able to cloak should be able to do so - and not anything else. CCP could just change the fitting requirements on the cloaking device and then give the ships that are meant to use a cloak a deduction bonus to that high fitting cost (those 99% reduction things). Problem solved. Covert ops ships et al can still keep their specific abilities and operate as they are meant to and no more cloaking ravens or any other ships for that matter. Originally by: P'uck I know somebody who heard somebody say that an Osprey defeated Chuck Norris. Twice. Need I say more?
Solomon XI Caldari Dawn of Chaos	Posted - 2007.09.04 01:05:00 - [19] Oh, hell no. I think the current cloaking system is working just fine. I REFUSE to sign this because I am a huge cloak fan. What else am I going to use my free Drake high-slot for in 0.0? Cloaking has saved me (and my ship) countless times from sticky situations in low-security and 0.0. I rely on cloaking for my PvP as well. It fits my play style. This is a BAD IDEA.
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.09.04 05:28:00 - [20] Originally by: Veryez No, Use gangs and patience to get cloaking ships. Eve is suppose to be hard, you want something you're suppose to work for it. /signed ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Cpt Cosmic	Posted - 2007.09.04 06:27:00 - [21] Yeah lets nerf cloak and everything else, or better remove all modules and ships from game except ibis and civilian modules nerf the nerf whiner!
AntonioBanderas	Posted - 2007.09.04 09:49:00 - [22] civilian fitted fleet ftw
twit brent Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.09.04 10:42:00 - [23] Cloaking devices make 0.0 ratting 100% risk free for 0.0 isk farmers. There is no way at all to stop someone farming isk in your space. The whole concept of owning space is flawed when people can farm isk in it risk free.
twit brent Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.09.04 10:44:00 - [24] Originally by: Kaakao Cloaking is fine, learn to play No its not. Wtf do u mean about learn to play? before saying **** like this please explain how we are meant to get isk farmers out of our space because its looking prety damn impossible.
Nama Saya Chickens with an Attitude	Posted - 2007.09.04 10:50:00 - [25] tread number 1001! # Is there a hype on cloak treads today??!!! Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe Albert Einstein
Gorefacer	Posted - 2007.09.04 11:38:00 - [26] Find a way to remove AFK cloakers and cloaks are fine with me. If someone is going to affect an entire system all day, I want them to have to be present at their keyboard all day to achieve said effect. If you haven't read these types of threads before and your not sure how an AFK cloaker affects a system, ask and I'll explain it. "You can't reason someone out of a belief they haven't reasoned themselves into" - Prometheus
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles 3asy Company	Posted - 2007.09.04 11:49:00 - [27] They have to uncloak at some point. Whilst they are cloaked they cant farm at all if they want to afk thats up to them they are cloaked after all. www.eve-players.com
Lisento Slaven Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.09.04 12:19:00 - [28] Why don't cloaks use cap? Stealth bonus of cov ops/recon could be they have major cap reduction... BLAMO! The cloaking ships can stay cloaked forever! The non-cloaking ones seriously have to gimp their setup to keep the cloak turned on forever! --- Put in space whales!
Vrognem Ardent Adversary Anvil.	Posted - 2007.09.05 04:24:00 - [29] Originally by: Lisento Slaven Why don't cloaks use cap? Stealth bonus of cov ops/recon could be they have major cap reduction... BLAMO! The cloaking ships can stay cloaked forever! The non-cloaking ones seriously have to gimp their setup to keep the cloak turned on forever! Exactly what i was thinking, let the cloak ships have their cloaking abilities pretty much unhindered.. they are there for a reason. The problem is the next part.. how do you implement it so normal people can use it but farmers get raped... time based? who knows. Cloak has saved my arse a few times in 0.0.
Ban Shui Eve University	Posted - 2007.09.05 06:46:00 - [30] Perhaps cloak cap usage could be tied to the ship size or mass. For example a Raven weighs 50 times more than a buzzard, but its recharge cap recharge rate is definitely much less than 50 times that of a buzzard.

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