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Cpt Bunny
Gallente
War inc
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Posted - 2007.09.03 14:17:00 -
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Hi All,
Ive been away for a little while, and im a little behind on the current state of the great war, Bob, mc etc v the rest. its hard to guage what the current state of play is just from maps.
1)
From what i determined to be the Peak of Bob's conquest after capturing and breaking ascn etc, would you say they have lost ground, gained ground or other since then ?
2)
in terms of isk and infrastructure (caps and super caps) would you say the balance has swung from a 80/20 split between the warring factions to more of a 50/50 split ?
3)
in terms of motivation, would you say any of the factions are getting bored or loosing stamina for such a protracted war ?
lets keep this above the belt and an acurate analisis of where both sides are today.
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.03 14:31:00 -
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BoB are still as solid as ever. Lately they have fleshed out their ranks with some of the finer PvPers in the game. Currently their offensives are steamrolling well on all fronts. Goon resistance is sparse and mostly the only enemy gangs can be found hugging POS shields.
Kill/Death ratios for BoB have never been higher as they enjoy fleet superiority around the clock. The BoB capital fleet has been working overtime dismantling hostile POS's and conquerable stations.
If the coalition does not receive some sort of major morale boost soon they will fold. Corps and alliances have already begun to split away and declare themselves neutral awaiting the outcome.
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Shinori
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.03 14:39:00 -
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I surrendered to my own fear before BOB even jumped into our home system.
The corpses of Goons that now flood our space is a sad testimoney that T1 noobs don't belong in 0.0
We were naive...and outskilled on all fronts.
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goon4tw
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Posted - 2007.09.03 14:49:00 -
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and there i thought the goons were winning |
Illaria
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.03 14:55:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Cpt Bunny
1)
From what i determined to be the Peak of Bob's conquest after capturing and breaking ascn etc, would you say they have lost ground, gained ground or other since then ?
BoB pushed deep into into Tenerifis before Rev 2, and is now being slowly pushed back out of the south east by Coalition (RA, Goons, TCF, et al.) forces. The turning point was the battle for 9-9. Atm , Bob is abondoning the Omist region to regroup with MC in Querious or something.
Quote:
2)
in terms of isk and infrastructure (caps and super caps) would you say the balance has swung from a 80/20 split between the warring factions to more of a 50/50 split ?
The relation gets more even with as time goes by, but overall it's fair to say that Alliance Forces (BoB, MC, et al.) still have an adavantage over Coaltion Forces in this area
Quote:
3)
in terms of motivation, would you say any of the factions are getting bored or loosing stamina for such a protracted war ?
lets keep this above the belt and an acurate analisis of where both sides are today.
I'd bet that BoB is as bored from POS war as the Goons are. If game mechanics stay the same they are now, I don't really see Goons sieging Delve or BoB sieging Scalding Pass anywhere in the foreseeable future. The Omist campaign alone was long slog for both parties. If I'd would have to make an educated guess at the further developments, I'd say that war will cool down to border skirmishes eventually, as both side will run into problems keeping up motivation for prolonged siege wars. Nerf POS.
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Fred 104
New Justice
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Posted - 2007.09.03 14:58:00 -
[6]
Originally by: Illaria
Originally by: Cpt Bunny
1)
From what i determined to be the Peak of Bob's conquest after capturing and breaking ascn etc, would you say they have lost ground, gained ground or other since then ?
BoB pushed deep into into Tenerifis before Rev 2, and is now being slowly pushed back out of the south east by Coalition (RA, Goons, TCF, et al.) forces. The turning point was the battle for 9-9. Atm , Bob is abondoning the Omist region to regroup with MC in Querious or something.
Quote:
2)
in terms of isk and infrastructure (caps and super caps) would you say the balance has swung from a 80/20 split between the warring factions to more of a 50/50 split ?
The relation gets more even with as time goes by, but overall it's fair to say that Alliance Forces (BoB, MC, et al.) still have an adavantage over Coaltion Forces in this area
Quote:
3)
in terms of motivation, would you say any of the factions are getting bored or loosing stamina for such a protracted war ?
lets keep this above the belt and an acurate analisis of where both sides are today.
I'd bet that BoB is as bored from POS war as the Goons are. If game mechanics stay the same they are now, I don't really see Goons sieging Delve or BoB sieging Scalding Pass anywhere in the foreseeable future. The Omist campaign alone was long slog for both parties. If I'd would have to make an educated guess at the further developments, I'd say that war will cool down to border skirmishes eventually, as both side will run into problems keeping up motivation for prolonged siege wars. Nerf POS.
wtf? that sounded like a solid, unbiased post. I cast thee out of CAOD, foul poster!!
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Flow Befort
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.03 14:58:00 -
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I had a great war with the vending machine at work today. I emerged victorious and gained a grab bag of lays potato chips but my right foot hurts a bit.
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Dr Paithos
Minmatar
Republic Deep Space Institute
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Posted - 2007.09.03 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Flow Befort
I had a great war with the vending machine at work today. I emerged victorious and gained a grab bag of lays potato chips but my right foot hurts a bit.
You should sue them for industrial injuries tbh.
Originally by: RedFall
How dare you try to argue my point with your so called "evidence". I don't need any, I have truthiness on my side.
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Knocturnal
omen.
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Posted - 2007.09.03 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Illaria
Originally by: Cpt Bunny
1)
From what i determined to be the Peak of Bob's conquest after capturing and breaking ascn etc, would you say they have lost ground, gained ground or other since then ?
BoB pushed deep into into Tenerifis before Rev 2, and is now being slowly pushed back out of the south east by Coalition (RA, Goons, TCF, et al.) forces. The turning point was the battle for 9-9. Atm , Bob is abondoning the Omist region to regroup with MC in Querious or something.
Quote:
2)
in terms of isk and infrastructure (caps and super caps) would you say the balance has swung from a 80/20 split between the warring factions to more of a 50/50 split ?
The relation gets more even with as time goes by, but overall it's fair to say that Alliance Forces (BoB, MC, et al.) still have an adavantage over Coaltion Forces in this area
Quote:
3)
in terms of motivation, would you say any of the factions are getting bored or loosing stamina for such a protracted war ?
lets keep this above the belt and an acurate analisis of where both sides are today.
I'd bet that BoB is as bored from POS war as the Goons are. If game mechanics stay the same they are now, I don't really see Goons sieging Delve or BoB sieging Scalding Pass anywhere in the foreseeable future. The Omist campaign alone was long slog for both parties. If I'd would have to make an educated guess at the further developments, I'd say that war will cool down to border skirmishes eventually, as both side will run into problems keeping up motivation for prolonged siege wars. Nerf POS.
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1st goonie and goon post to gain my respect. Wish most of your corpmates would see things like this and leave the awful smack down. Nothing against smacking but only it's with taste :D ...
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Faith Black
Minmatar
Rolls Roids
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Posted - 2007.09.03 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Cpt Bunny
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in terms of motivation, would you say any of the factions are getting bored or loosing stamina for such a protracted war ?
Only know that long pos wars aren't fun, if you are not progressing. It's not like a match in sports, where you can say later: 'Hey, I've lost, but I have fully enjoyed it.'
Pos sieging, pos repping, camping, waiting endless hours, real fights getting less, yourself logging longer into EVE per day, than you want to, because pos'es come out of reinforcement and such things ... if there is a fight at a gate or pos than it's massive lag ... Most people don't like to do it over months, especially not, if their side is not progressing or slowly losing ground.
Nevertheless many go on anyway, because they don't want to lose and they don't want to see their former efforts wasted.
That's at least how I have percieved doing pos/sovereignty related stuff day in day out on other occasions.
Maybe those, who think such a long wars with mostly pos related stuff is fun, let others do that boring stuff and just roam around and join, when there is a fleet battle. Don't know.
What I know is that camping gates, guarding systems, pos recharging, waiting and staying available, just in case something happens and doing that over months is really a downside of EVE warfare.
I'm not a BoB alt or something like that.
But maybe some people see it like me and CCP invests a bit brain effort to make wars a bit more fun.
Cut away the endless hours in EVE wars, where people have to be there, but are doing boring stuff or just wait for something to happen.
I've never played a game, where I felt that it wasted so much of my lifetime just to get some tactical/strategical team pvp.
P.S.: No, you can't have my stuff. Not yet. 
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Thridi
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.03 15:39:00 -
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In my oppinion the GNW has nothing on what is happening now. The GNW was a mear skirmish compared to what is happening at the moment.
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Jamie 315
Yet Another CAOD Inspired 1 Woman Alt Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.03 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Illaria
Originally by: Cpt Bunny
1)
From what i determined to be the Peak of Bob's conquest after capturing and breaking ascn etc, would you say they have lost ground, gained ground or other since then ?
BoB pushed deep into into Tenerifis before Rev 2, and is now being slowly pushed back out of the south east by Coalition (RA, Goons, TCF, et al.) forces. The turning point was the battle for 9-9. Atm , Bob is abondoning the Omist region to regroup with MC in Querious or something.
Quote:
2)
in terms of isk and infrastructure (caps and super caps) would you say the balance has swung from a 80/20 split between the warring factions to more of a 50/50 split ?
The relation gets more even with as time goes by, but overall it's fair to say that Alliance Forces (BoB, MC, et al.) still have an adavantage over Coaltion Forces in this area
Quote:
3)
in terms of motivation, would you say any of the factions are getting bored or loosing stamina for such a protracted war ?
lets keep this above the belt and an acurate analisis of where both sides are today.
I'd bet that BoB is as bored from POS war as the Goons are. If game mechanics stay the same they are now, I don't really see Goons sieging Delve or BoB sieging Scalding Pass anywhere in the foreseeable future. The Omist campaign alone was long slog for both parties. If I'd would have to make an educated guess at the further developments, I'd say that war will cool down to border skirmishes eventually, as both side will run into problems keeping up motivation for prolonged siege wars. Nerf POS.
 
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Subira
Amarr
Subira Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.03 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: NO BRAKES
BoB are still as solid as ever. Lately they have fleshed out their ranks with some of the finer PvPers in the game. Currently their offensives are steamrolling well on all fronts. Goon resistance is sparse and mostly the only enemy gangs can be found hugging POS shields.
Kill/Death ratios for BoB have never been higher as they enjoy fleet superiority around the clock. The BoB capital fleet has been working overtime dismantling hostile POS's and conquerable stations.
If the coalition does not receive some sort of major morale boost soon they will fold. Corps and alliances have already begun to split away and declare themselves neutral awaiting the outcome.
Tis time to close down CAOD. We got a winner!
Best... 
Post...
Ever...
And yes, I belive it hard enough for it to be true.
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Shinori
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.03 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Knocturnal
1st goonie and goon post to gain my respect. Wish most of your corpmates would see things like this and leave the awful smack down. Nothing against smacking but only it's with taste :D ...
Newsflash, people have different tastes.
I always found BOB smack to be lacking in wit, and it often came back to hit them in the face, so of course they don't like smack against them. You smack when you're winning, you just haven't been doing a lot of winning lately.
Are you intelligent enough to grasp this concept?
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Dal Thrax
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.03 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Illaria
I'd bet that BoB is as bored from POS war as the Goons are. If game mechanics stay the same they are now, I don't really see Goons sieging Delve or BoB sieging Scalding Pass anywhere in the foreseeable future. The Omist campaign alone was long slog for both parties. If I'd would have to make an educated guess at the further developments, I'd say that war will cool down to border skirmishes eventually, as both side will run into problems keeping up motivation for prolonged siege wars. Nerf POS.
Personally I look at all the alliances that have gone down in the last couple months ASCN, -V-, LV, D2, ISS, Sparta, others I can't remember. I think CCP wants to hold it down to one or two major alliances falling a year. A 1000+ person alliance loosing its space means that 1000+ subscribers are faced with an event that makes them question whether or not they want to continue in the game. Not good from a marketing standpoint for CCP.
Dal
Originally by: Seleene
It seems to me that 'independence' is a relative term these days, determined mainly by the size and number of your guns.
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Moctobot
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.03 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jamie 315
Originally by: Illaria
Originally by: Cpt Bunny
1)
From what i determined to be the Peak of Bob's conquest after capturing and breaking ascn etc, would you say they have lost ground, gained ground or other since then ?
BoB pushed deep into into Tenerifis before Rev 2, and is now being slowly pushed back out of the south east by Coalition (RA, Goons, TCF, et al.) forces. The turning point was the battle for 9-9. Atm , Bob is abondoning the Omist region to regroup with MC in Querious or something.
Quote:
2)
in terms of isk and infrastructure (caps and super caps) would you say the balance has swung from a 80/20 split between the warring factions to more of a 50/50 split ?
The relation gets more even with as time goes by, but overall it's fair to say that Alliance Forces (BoB, MC, et al.) still have an adavantage over Coaltion Forces in this area
Quote:
3)
in terms of motivation, would you say any of the factions are getting bored or loosing stamina for such a protracted war ?
lets keep this above the belt and an acurate analisis of where both sides are today.
I'd bet that BoB is as bored from POS war as the Goons are. If game mechanics stay the same they are now, I don't really see Goons sieging Delve or BoB sieging Scalding Pass anywhere in the foreseeable future. The Omist campaign alone was long slog for both parties. If I'd would have to make an educated guess at the further developments, I'd say that war will cool down to border skirmishes eventually, as both side will run into problems keeping up motivation for prolonged siege wars. Nerf POS.
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George Petsch
Caldari
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.03 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: NO BRAKES
BoB are still as solid as ever. Lately they have fleshed out their ranks with some of the finer PvPers in the game. Currently their offensives are steamrolling well on all fronts. Goon resistance is sparse and mostly the only enemy gangs can be found hugging POS shields.
Kill/Death ratios for BoB have never been higher as they enjoy fleet superiority around the clock. The BoB capital fleet has been working overtime dismantling hostile POS's and conquerable stations.
If the coalition does not receive some sort of major morale boost soon they will fold. Corps and alliances have already begun to split away and declare themselves neutral awaiting the outcome.
-dbp
fixed that for you 
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Iasius
Warp Angels
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.09.03 18:31:00 -
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War is a state of mind. All things material that get used are to break thee state of mind into weakness. Play without fear and poise to make the enemy loose their poise and play with fear.
Everyone can login again after a pod death so that makes our potential immortal. Or to be less eloquent just be a ***t with a curly C 
Infinite War
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Warp Angels - Acorns To Trees. Now Recruiting. |
OldPueblo
DarkStar 1
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.03 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: Illaria
Originally by: Cpt Bunny
1)
From what i determined to be the Peak of Bob's conquest after capturing and breaking ascn etc, would you say they have lost ground, gained ground or other since then ?
BoB pushed deep into into Tenerifis before Rev 2, and is now being slowly pushed back out of the south east by Coalition (RA, Goons, TCF, et al.) forces. The turning point was the battle for 9-9. Atm , Bob is abondoning the Omist region to regroup with MC in Querious or something.
Quote:
2)
in terms of isk and infrastructure (caps and super caps) would you say the balance has swung from a 80/20 split between the warring factions to more of a 50/50 split ?
The relation gets more even with as time goes by, but overall it's fair to say that Alliance Forces (BoB, MC, et al.) still have an adavantage over Coaltion Forces in this area
Quote:
3)
in terms of motivation, would you say any of the factions are getting bored or loosing stamina for such a protracted war ?
lets keep this above the belt and an acurate analisis of where both sides are today.
I'd bet that BoB is as bored from POS war as the Goons are. If game mechanics stay the same they are now, I don't really see Goons sieging Delve or BoB sieging Scalding Pass anywhere in the foreseeable future. The Omist campaign alone was long slog for both parties. If I'd would have to make an educated guess at the further developments, I'd say that war will cool down to border skirmishes eventually, as both side will run into problems keeping up motivation for prolonged siege wars. Nerf POS.
Spy identified.
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K'Bar
Caldari
Quam Singulari
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.03 20:36:00 -
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Edited by: K''Bar on 03/09/2007 20:38:45
Originally by: Flow Befort
I had a great war with the vending machine at work today. I emerged victorious and gained a grab bag of lays potato chips but my right foot hurts a bit.
Awww, I was rooting for the vending machine.
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Nate Hammertown
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.03 20:45:00 -
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Me and Bob met for the first time the other day. We got along really well. I think we will be friends. It's a shame about the war, but I know me and Bob can rise above that and be friends anyways. "Nate and Bob" all the people will say. "Those two are good friends! They love to laugh" is what people will say when they see us! It will be a good time. 
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unknownuna
Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.09.03 20:48:00 -
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Not suprised in the slightest how it's progressed. At the start there was a definite "it'll be over before christmas" kind of attitude, now it's turned into a prolonged stalemate as far as I can see.
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icmp
Caldari
Screaming Fist
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Posted - 2007.09.03 21:04:00 -
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OMG, I'm in a NATE HAMMERTOWN thread!
HAMMERTOWN!!!
Originally by: Maimonides Einotar
screaming fist more like screaming devs
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Elohe
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.04 01:15:00 -
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Came for drama stayed for NATE HAMMERTOWN!
pd: this is and unbiased and honorable post
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Iasius
Warp Angels
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2007.09.04 01:21:00 -
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Well yer know that old computer game Elite that fit inside 32K of memory used Fibonacci sequences to generate almost unlimited star systems. So why does EVE not do the same in that someone new goes to a potential system but the changes to it are kept in state and maintained.
Then BOB and Goon can say to each other 'waaghh screw you we are going 50K star systems in the other way', And lo it was written but they still waggled thier epeens on COAD 
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Warp Angels - Acorns To Trees. Now Recruiting. |
James Grand
Phoenix Navy
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.09.04 01:38:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Illaria
Originally by: Cpt Bunny
1)
From what i determined to be the Peak of Bob's conquest after capturing and breaking ascn etc, would you say they have lost ground, gained ground or other since then ?
BoB pushed deep into into Tenerifis before Rev 2, and is now being slowly pushed back out of the south east by Coalition (RA, Goons, TCF, et al.) forces. The turning point was the battle for 9-9. Atm , Bob is abondoning the Omist region to regroup with MC in Querious or something.
Quote:
2)
in terms of isk and infrastructure (caps and super caps) would you say the balance has swung from a 80/20 split between the warring factions to more of a 50/50 split ?
The relation gets more even with as time goes by, but overall it's fair to say that Alliance Forces (BoB, MC, et al.) still have an adavantage over Coaltion Forces in this area
Quote:
3)
in terms of motivation, would you say any of the factions are getting bored or loosing stamina for such a protracted war ?
lets keep this above the belt and an acurate analisis of where both sides are today.
I'd bet that BoB is as bored from POS war as the Goons are. If game mechanics stay the same they are now, I don't really see Goons sieging Delve or BoB sieging Scalding Pass anywhere in the foreseeable future. The Omist campaign alone was long slog for both parties. If I'd would have to make an educated guess at the further developments, I'd say that war will cool down to border skirmishes eventually, as both side will run into problems keeping up motivation for prolonged siege wars. Nerf POS.
This post was accurate, well-written and unbiased. Expect to be kicked from Goonswarm soon. 
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Drunken Ratbags Inc
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2007.09.04 01:43:00 -
[27]
wont the goons make him an FC instead
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Ikki Phoenix
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.09.04 01:59:00 -
[28]
So which corporations form the coalition?
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Jane Spondogolo
NoobWaffe
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Posted - 2007.09.04 02:08:00 -
[29]
Illaria posts with honor.
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Unrepentant Southern Federation Cheerleader.
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icarus braciolini
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Posted - 2007.09.04 03:30:00 -
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what war there is no war
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