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Samwise Gankgee	Posted - 2007.09.04 07:43:00 - [1] Last night I kitted out a new Taranis and decided to roam around looking for targets in belts. I started in Bleak Lands and worked my way up north through Molden -> Heim -> Metro -> Forge -> Lonetrek and finally Placid. And I found a grand total of 6 targets, 4 of which were random noobs in destroyers. Is belt piracy dead?
Destiny Calling Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.04 07:48:00 - [2] Originally by: Samwise Gankgee Last night I kitted out a new Taranis and decided to roam around looking for targets in belts. I started in Bleak Lands and worked my way up north through Molden -> Heim -> Metro -> Forge -> Lonetrek and finally Placid. And I found a grand total of 6 targets, 4 of which were random noobs in destroyers. Is belt piracy dead? I couldnt give a definitive answer to your question, however this question may bare thinking about. What reason does anyone bar a new player in a destroyer have to be in a belt in low sec?
Samwise Gankgee	Posted - 2007.09.04 07:53:00 - [3] Edited by: Samwise Gankgee on 04/09/2007 07:53:39 Originally by: Destiny Calling What reason does anyone bar a new player in a destroyer have to be in a belt in low sec? Cormorants have a build in autopilot subroutine that automatically pilots them to Aurohunen belt one whenever the podpilot is AFK. Seriously though I knew empire piracy was on its arse, but that was just depressing as hell.
VicturusTeSaluto	Posted - 2007.09.04 07:56:00 - [4] Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 04/09/2007 07:57:54 Belt piracy is not what it used to be; it has declined even since I started playing, but it is not dead. Today I even found a hulk in a low sec belt. Most of what you will find = noobs in frigs/destroyers- this is true- but there are plenty of decent targets. There are lots of mining ops, make sure you bring a lot of points. The "protection" will warp out and leave the barge to you I also recently got a multi-hundred mil ransom on a Maelstrom in a low sec belt. Probing out mission runners may be more viable than simple belt hunting, it just depends on the area. I find belt hunting and mission runner killing to both be viable. Sadly, most belt inhabitants will either quit the game, dock, POS, or SS as soon as a new player comes into local. This really comes down to the issue of local, the only counter to uber-local is to go cloak in a highly active system and wait for them to get too comfortable.
Izo Azlion Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.04 08:05:00 - [5] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 04/09/2007 07:57:54 Belt piracy is not what it used to be; it has declined even since I started playing, but it is not dead. Today I even found a hulk in a low sec belt. Most of what you will find = noobs in frigs/destroyers- this is true- but there are plenty of decent targets. There are lots of mining ops, make sure you bring a lot of points. The "protection" will warp out and leave the barge to you I also recently got a multi-hundred mil ransom on a Maelstrom in a low sec belt. Probing out mission runners may be more viable than simple belt hunting, it just depends on the area. I find belt hunting and mission runner killing to both be viable. Sadly, most belt inhabitants will either quit the game, dock, POS, or SS as soon as a new player comes into local. This really comes down to the issue of local, the only counter to uber-local is to go cloak in a highly active system and wait for them to get too comfortable. sadly, without a Covert ops, some seriously fast scanning or a bit of luck, you'll do well to find someone alone in a belt, that doesnt have an armada waiting to WTFgank you. That said, I still weirdly enjoy Piracy. Izo Azlion. ---
Destiny Calling Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.04 08:25:00 - [6] Originally by: Izo Azlion That said, I still weirdly enjoy Piracy. Its all in the company you keep
Acid Pimp Omniscient Order Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.09.04 08:28:00 - [7] I actually sdtarted this char to belt pirate in. Went on my first tour and got to ransom two coverters and a tempest in a belt and then nothiong afterwards lol. So I ****** it off when I joined omnor ad took the bastard with me.
VicturusTeSaluto	Posted - 2007.09.04 08:43:00 - [8] Originally by: Izo Azlion sadly, without a Covert ops, some seriously fast scanning or a bit of luck, you'll do well to find someone alone in a belt, that doesnt have an armada waiting to WTFgank you. That said, I still weirdly enjoy Piracy. Now it's not THAT hard to find people in belts, what about that carrier? And while a target in a belt may be bait, or may try to call in their friends it does not happen to me that often and I can only recall one instance where I was baited and unable to get out when I saw their friends coming. Belt piracy is decent, just requires patience, good timing, and luck.
Izo Azlion Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.04 08:54:00 - [9] Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Originally by: Izo Azlion sadly, without a Covert ops, some seriously fast scanning or a bit of luck, you'll do well to find someone alone in a belt, that doesnt have an armada waiting to WTFgank you. That said, I still weirdly enjoy Piracy. Now it's not THAT hard to find people in belts, what about that carrier? And while a target in a belt may be bait, or may try to call in their friends it does not happen to me that often and I can only recall one instance where I was baited and unable to get out when I saw their friends coming. Belt piracy is decent, just requires patience, good timing, and luck. There are exceptions I suppose. I feel it falls under "Luck" or "Drugs" :) Izo Azlion. ---
Ogdru Jahad Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.09.04 10:04:00 - [10] last low sec belt encounter i had was a Hulk and a drake as protection. needless to say nice overall drops. - :
Ren Tales Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2007.09.04 10:19:00 - [11] I should start counting how many times I see some version of this thread. No, its not dead. It will never die. I've seen posts like this almost weekly since I joined the game 2 years ago. Belt piracy isn't like other professions, the targets are rarer, and the really big hits rarer still. Some days are slow, some are ripe with kills. It's how it is now, it's how its always been. 'Nuff said. ---- The name is Tal-ez, not Tay-uls.
RuleoftheBone Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.04 10:29:00 - [12] Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 04/09/2007 10:29:01 Belt piracy requires: -Willingness to travel -Solid scouting and scanner skills -Knowledge of the onboard scanner (think of the cosmic anomalies as "belts") -A bit of luck In other words...it's alive and well...everything from frigs to carriers "Lead Me..Follow Me..Or get the **** out of my way" General George Patton USA
Waxau Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2007.09.04 11:46:00 - [13] Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 04/09/2007 10:29:01 Belt piracy requires: -Willingness to travel -Solid scouting and scanner skills -Knowledge of the onboard scanner (think of the cosmic anomalies as "belts") -A bit of luck In other words...it's alive and well...everything from frigs to carriers And dreads
Xoria Krint The Movement	Posted - 2007.09.04 13:08:00 - [14] I still do. And i love it. - My Movies
mallina Caldari Sybrite Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.04 15:03:00 - [15] I rarely bother scanning the belts anymore. More chance of the target being on a mission or in an exploration site, really. That said, i'm sure there's still people who use the belts, but having a -9.5 SS and 20mil+ bounty really makes people run as soon as they see you in Local. TBH, Local should be a passive channel - so you only appear there if you talk, or perhaps if you've been there a while (5min+) It'd make things a lot more interesting, and byebye Macro NPCers :p
Kane Rizzel NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.09.04 15:48:00 - [16] I still belt Pirate. Thrill of the hunt and a succesful kill are massive fun. Originally by: High Sierra note to self: dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
MirrorGod Heretic Army Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.04 16:46:00 - [17] I've done it since I started and I still am, I nailed a Diemos about a week back. What helps to keep things interesting is to bring a ship that can tank sentries as well so if someone warps pursue, and if you know your systems really well you can be at the right place at the right time to catch indy's and autopiloting ships. Yeah you don't find a whole lot of BS's or even BC's ratting anymore but they're still coming out, but here's all in favor of CCP giving some low-sec rats/rocks some love in order to increase traffic.
jimmyjam Divine Heresy	Posted - 2007.09.04 16:46:00 - [18] I do belt piracy when available but it seems for the most part its a trap. ----------------------------------------------- Do you serve a purpose , or purposely serve
Tobias Sjodin Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.04 17:23:00 - [19] Belt piracy works in 0.0. Sure there are some mining ops sometimes in low-sec, or the odd eBay:er who rats with his shield tanked navy mega, but otherwise low-sec is limited to killing: 1) People at a gate. 2) People in missions. 3) People in safe-spots hiding when you entered local. 4) People who are there because they want to fight you (for whatever reason). - Recruitment open again-
sue AGPlant Minmatar Divine Assembly of Forgotten Travelers Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2007.09.04 18:22:00 - [20] The problem is the imbalance in the game and I don't mean in any way that the devs can fix it the players themselves that are creating the imbalance. There are no miners in low sec reason low sec is the most densely populated area for people who want to wear your hull as a medal. Minerals have collapsed in price risk high reward next to nothing skip from empire to 0.0 Solo pvp pretty much extinct you go out alone you get dead \o/ the gank you go out in a small gang i.e. I regularly go out in small af's cruiser gangs cuz its hanging with ya buds and having a good time and its gotten to the point where even 2,3,4 bs gangs will still happily drop a carrier on your head rather than taking such a squishy manageable (if yer smart) gang. Markets in the toilet due to everyone on there grandmother doing rigs and invention. Its human nature someone spots a good thing soon after words everyones going to be doing it. So onward we go prices get cheaper \o/ gangs get so big even the biggest gaming server on the planet would complain ohh wait it IS the biggest gaming server on the planet (remember I said gaming) and it is crying but ccp god bless em are trying to figure out how to cope with it and let us kill each other in more ingenious ways. in an odd kind of way if belt piracy is dead its kinda the pirates own fault i.e. care bears don't go there anymore = no one to pirate = no pirates anymore = no one for me to play with at the weekends :'( see the care bear dose fulfill a useful function after all lol. anyway this has started to turn into a rant and it was only meant as an observation Quote: When you leave that hi sec system you may be kissing your teddy bears goodbye for the last time
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.04 18:37:00 - [21] The last thing I killed in an asteroid belt well almost killed was a minmatar frig not too far from amamake. I was in his hull when I decided. . . no. . . he's just a newbie his loot will suck. I gave him 1 mill and warped off. Seriously though THE BELTS ARE ALL FN'G EMPTY no one told you guy to go on a genocide mission I mean damn Local Thread 107-b,War without a victor is a war without harsh enough penalties
MITSUK0	Posted - 2007.09.04 19:21:00 - [22] Belt piracy is pretty boring in low sec Recently I have been having much more fun out in 0.0 with a close range inty just trying to kill the scouts that are out ahead of the various gangs before the main gang can jump in and gank me. Meh. Low sec just needs more focal points worth visiting, more places to actually bump into people. ATM you pretty much need to stay static in either a known pvp system or a well traveled gate to get any decent amount of fights.
Kendrix Arathan Minmatar N00bs With Guns	Posted - 2007.09.04 19:45:00 - [23] Edited by: Kendrix Arathan on 04/09/2007 19:52:26 Edited by: Kendrix Arathan on 04/09/2007 19:51:02 Originally by: Tobias Sjodin 4) People who are there because they want to fight you (for whatever reason). this is not at all directed at all at the person i quoted, but... reading this made me think, so many "Pirates" i see post on the boards come here to whine and complain that they can't find anyone to kill who wont fight back, or that the only people they can find are actually looking for/prepaired for PVP... That really seems more like bullying than piracy than me, but i guess no honor among thieves and all. Then there are those who claim piracy to be this high honor noble profession, realy seems we need 2 diffrent distinctions between these camps... Myself when i go to PVP i actually seek out people looking to pvp and those capable of fighting back and defening themselves, i just don't see the sport in killing some one who has no chance of winning, where's the thrill in that? I'll get off my soap box now.. edit for after thought I guess i see it as the diffrence between some one who hunts grizzlies (something that will actually hunt you back)v.s. the kid with a magnifying glass in his driveway burning ants.
Cheeb Aman Trouble Every Day	Posted - 2007.09.04 20:23:00 - [24] Edited by: Cheeb Aman on 04/09/2007 20:24:13 Piracy != PVP Piracy is about making money from someone else's misfortune (i.e being weaker and getting caught by the said pirate). There is no 'honour' in piracy it plain and simple theft by force, some people act all high and mighty about it but it's all round thing's carried in a sack pray on the weak and make as much dough as you can. Am all for it :) Yeah sometimes you take on something thats risky, but thats usually because risk = reward but a good pirate always looks for the way out if it all goes to male chicken. Anyway back on topic, belt piracy is still possible but it requires the patience of a saint and speed on scanning down the belts. edit: man i should proof read I like to kill you cause every wreck makes it feel like opening presents at christmas, you never know what's going to be inside
Arouu	Posted - 2007.09.04 20:32:00 - [25] Originally by: Samwise Gankgee Does anyone really belt pirate anymore? I do
Krugerrand 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.09.04 20:53:00 - [26] I killed a prophecy in a belt the other week when I picked up my carrier, does that count?
Tobias Sjodin Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.04 21:10:00 - [27] Originally by: Krugerrand I killed a prophecy in a belt the other week when I picked up my carrier, does that count? If it had expensive t2 loot or faction stuff, yes. Otherwise I guess it's a good way to pass the time. ^^ - Recruitment open again-
hellsknights Hells Angels Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.04 22:55:00 - [28] People still belt rat, but honestly the easiest way to catch someone is still on system jump out. Ill kill you on the gate, in a belt , mid flight!!!! you chose recruitment thread Join channel Hells Angels Inc
Kato Tun Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.09.04 23:19:00 - [29] I wouldn't say it's dead. I've killed a few ships in low-sec belts, a lot of patience I guess. Infact I've had trouble getting targets that are TOO big for me to kill. Covetors, Vexors, Catalyst, Ruptures and Retrievers seem to be the main things that I get.
Lucifer Fellblade Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.04 23:24:00 - [30] Originally by: Kato Tun I wouldn't say it's dead. I've killed a few ships in low-sec belts, a lot of patience I guess. Infact I've had trouble getting targets that are TOO big for me to kill. Covetors, Vexors, Catalyst, Ruptures and Retrievers seem to be the main things that I get. Post with your main! ------
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.04 23:53:00 - [31] I've been spending more time in low sec belts just because the pirates are better, and often more sporting, with alot less childish smack and even some good advice Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve-Forums: Quote: Smacking my own alt in a nerf-thread while drunk, he was irritating a Hauler full of tech II n00bs, Oops.
GandolftheWhite Gallente The Hull Miners Union	Posted - 2007.09.07 21:00:00 - [32] Its just changed, sit in a cosmic anomolly and make sure you shoot all the wrecks of the npcs that aggro you and chill, it doesnt take long for some greedy nub lookin for faction loot to get molested by you. They just dont sit in the belts anymore because the npcs are 3x better and more potentially 100x more profitable..
Lance Cuthroat Caldari League of Iron	Posted - 2007.09.08 00:01:00 - [33] I've had much luck. Its my fourth day and I have netted a 2mil, 4mil and 7mil isk items from the NPC spawns. I have also had the pleasure of being destroyed within five seconds of encountering a player, which is exciting too. Quote: When the going gets tough, the tough get going, the smart get the hell out!
VicturusTeSaluto	Posted - 2007.09.09 11:32:00 - [34] I still keep finding heaps of targets in belts, would be very hard to say its dead. Tonight I found a retriever mining out a belt, he was guarded by a cyclone and a drake. I went right for the barge, getting a point on him and then killing him in about 5 seconds. Then I put a point on the cyclone and killed him fairly quickly as well. I had a very long fight against the drake, with him pulling logoffski a couple times and coming back to see if I was still attacking him. I ended up killing his drake + pod It was one hell of a long fight- on that note- im getting more gank ASAP. I must give these guys credit as when I usually warp into a mining op, the "guards" are warping out of the belt at the first chance they get. The guards probably did have a chance to get away, but they actually tried to fight. They were not complete noobs, and were members of an established corp that gave out a lot of t2/best named loot. There are plenty of other places to find people such as missions or cosmic anomalies, but I already basically consider the anomalies to be "belts" because they show up on the directional scanner and eventually the belts will no longer be static and you will have to use the onboard scanner. I understand how people get frustrated finding targets and turn to things like camping gates or stations, but that is by no means the only way to get kills. I think the answer is really to boost low sec, and limit the ability of people to make isk in high sec with no danger- especially chinese farmers, then you might even catch me ratting out a belt
Sanguinnus	Posted - 2007.09.10 00:32:00 - [35] Originally by: Ren Tales I should start counting how many times I see some version of this thread. No, its not dead. It will never die. I've seen posts like this almost weekly since I joined the game 2 years ago. Belt piracy isn't like other professions, the targets are rarer, and the really big hits rarer still. Some days are slow, some are ripe with kills. It's how it is now, it's how its always been. 'Nuff said. signed
Splitter Macdung Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.10 00:49:00 - [36] No one belt pirates anymore, its all 110% safe. Honest. __________________________________ Vale Heavy Industries We'll haul Your Stuff For Free! MOLOTOV COALITION ...And Probably Just Set It On Fire.
Schena Perkone	Posted - 2007.09.10 01:06:00 - [37] Originally by: mallina TBH, Local should be a passive channel - so you only appear there if you talk, or perhaps if you've been there a while (5min+) It'd make things a lot more interesting, and byebye Macro NPCers :p Yes, I can see that it improves your hunting luck or whatever.. It doesn't make sense to the carebears though. I am Megathron
Making stuff	Posted - 2007.09.10 02:17:00 - [38] when I go "pirating" I love finding traps. The only fun PVP is when you land on a trap, and their friends come in to help them. You actually get good fights like that- or at least I have. Killing the odd drake, or brutix, out there is also lots of fun, specially in AF's and inty's. It all depends what you want to do.If youre looking to make money, and kill noobs, then ya, itll take a while before u land on something worth ransoming. otherwise there is lots of PVP- and im assuming thats what youre looking for- killing random noobs that cant fight back sucks and is boring. I like having close calls. Or tight battles where you dont know the outcome.
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.09.10 02:47:00 - [39] Originally by: Making stuff when I go "pirating" I love finding traps. The only fun PVP is when you land on a trap, and their friends come in to help them. You actually get good fights like that- or at least I have. Killing the odd drake, or brutix, out there is also lots of fun, specially in AF's and inty's. It all depends what you want to do.If youre looking to make money, and kill noobs, then ya, itll take a while before u land on something worth ransoming. otherwise there is lots of PVP- and im assuming thats what youre looking for- killing random noobs that cant fight back sucks and is boring. I like having close calls. Or tight battles where you dont know the outcome. Lol, you got the traps part right ;) Just about half a hour ago, I spot a Rifter in Vard, land on top of it and gank it (and the pod). Well, the moment I'm finished looting him and picking up the corps, a Pilgrim warps in on my lil Rifter. I warp out to a safe. Rifter agility Then, I noticed the Pilgrim pilot switched to a Curse, so basically, I align, get up to top speed, and wait. Sure thing, five minutes later, he warps in on me, and I warp out. After a bit of chasing, I make a new safe. A couple of minutes later, his friend in a Malediction warps in on me. I warp out. Fortunately, at that point, my countdown was over so I could finally bugger out. Who spends 15 minutes probing out a Rifter, though?
Jacob Castillo Caldari Copperhead Inc. Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.10 02:59:00 - [40] Originally by: Making stuff when I go "pirating" I love finding traps. The only fun PVP is when you land on a trap, and their friends come in to help them. You actually get good fights like that- or at least I have. Killing the odd drake, or brutix, out there is also lots of fun, specially in AF's and inty's. It all depends what you want to do.If youre looking to make money, and kill noobs, then ya, itll take a while before u land on something worth ransoming. otherwise there is lots of PVP- and im assuming thats what youre looking for- killing random noobs that cant fight back sucks and is boring. I like having close calls. Or tight battles where you dont know the outcome. I can't say that I've been belt pirating a lot, mainly because no one uses the belts where I live. Those who do often have a gank squad next door, or some corpmates in system. Taking the bait and seeing what happens is always fun though, even if nothing explodes on either side. Finding people with a willingness to PvP is getting harder and harder these days, to the point where the only fights that really get my adrenaline pumping are the ones where we're outnumbered by a decent margin. And even those are hard to come by, even when my corp only really flys in 2-3 man battlecruiser gangs most of the time.
Nyphur Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2007.09.10 03:23:00 - [41] Edited by: Nyphur on 10/09/2007 03:22:57 Originally by: Waxau Originally by: RuleoftheBone Belt piracy requires: In other words...it's alive and well...everything from frigs to carriers And dreads You rang? Eve-Tanking.com - We're sorry, something happened.
Horatio Nately Caldari 808 Enterprises The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.09.10 05:04:00 - [42] Bagged a hulk (that was mining veld) + various industrial + cruisers in Placid in the last few days. Otherwise slim pickings --------------------------------------- CEO 808 Enterprises, A Hawaii, USA Playercorp channel 808 ingame
Dhejay Centrix Caldari Racketeers	Posted - 2007.09.11 10:06:00 - [43] I would do belt piracy but I'm not a "real pirate". Besides, if a member of RAK went into low-sec then surely EvE would suffer a catastrophic failure?
Strife Phoenix Acerbus Vindictum	Posted - 2007.09.11 10:26:00 - [44] Originally by: Dhejay Centrix I would do belt piracy but I'm not a "real pirate". Besides, if a member of RAK went into low-sec then surely EvE would suffer a catastrophic failure? Admit it! It was exactly what happened last night which caused the crash wasn't it?! ACERBUS-VINDICTUM - Revelare Pecunia!
Dhejay Centrix Caldari Racketeers	Posted - 2007.09.11 10:30:00 - [45] ohnoes we've been found out!
Berrik Radhok GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.11 10:47:00 - [46] If you're short on targets, go after other pirates. No ransom, but better loot. Originally by: Khavi Vetali Oh don't worry, the goons are just as suicidal with their battleships as they are with their frigates.

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