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LuzArius	Posted - 2007.09.06 02:49:00 - [1] An enemy corp member attacks you, if the fight doesn't go his way he can stop attacking you for 30 seconds and dock. What is this carebear crap? If I wanted to play a carebear game I'd go play world of warcraft. If you attack a player no matter there should be at least a 5 minute timer that prevents you from docking. I thought EVE was for stronger players but I guess I was wrong. Corp Wars are a carebears paradise. "Oh i'm taking too much damage i'll just dock". Psh... I've been playing for like 30 days and I DEMAND that the timer be increased to at least 5 minutes. I hate carebears. Luzarius
Anaalys Fluuterby Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.06 02:52:00 - [2] lol Quit being a carebear and camping the station. Originally by: CCP Chronotis Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
Captian Internet	Posted - 2007.09.06 04:09:00 - [3] Look fatgets care bears consider pvp ***** If you keep labeling everything as carebear the word loses meaning Local Thread 107-b,War without a victor penalties,Navigation Shortcuts
Condecinte	Posted - 2007.09.06 04:20:00 - [4] wardec a pirate corp, they won't dock
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries	Posted - 2007.09.06 04:34:00 - [5] Edited by: Naomi Wildfire on 06/09/2007 04:35:57 Damn ... and i thought you have to wait a minute. Get a better ship boy. 5 mins would get you way to easy into a trap. See the rest of the game and then start whining.
illbebored	Posted - 2007.09.06 09:12:00 - [6] Edited by: illbebored on 06/09/2007 09:12:06 Originally by: Condecinte wardec a pirate corp, they won't dock Everyone will do it. Everyone actually do it. It's becoming quite common to see Corps wardeccing here and there and then, spending most of the time at dock range with a heavily tanked ship, waiting to pick on a weak target, pop it, and dock back if someone else steps in. And it's becoming common, sadly i'd say, even from so called "pirates" and/or "mercenaries". While I generally agree on the "adapt or die" rule, and i know that a suitable firepower would give no time for docking back to almost any ship, it must be said how the several "hp increases" given to ships made the "undock/dock" technique spread like a virus. 5 minutes of aggro timer would be definetly too much, but 30 seconds are really nothing for today's ships.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.09.06 10:26:00 - [7] Originally by: illbebored Edited by: illbebored on 06/09/2007 09:12:06 Originally by: Condecinte wardec a pirate corp, they won't dock Everyone will do it. Everyone actually do it. It's becoming quite common to see Corps wardeccing here and there and then, spending most of the time at dock range with a heavily tanked ship, waiting to pick on a weak target, pop it, and dock back if someone else steps in. And it's becoming common, sadly i'd say, even from so called "pirates" and/or "mercenaries". While I generally agree on the "adapt or die" rule, and i know that a suitable firepower would give no time for docking back to almost any ship, it must be said how the several "hp increases" given to ships made the "undock/dock" technique spread like a virus. 5 minutes of aggro timer would be definetly too much, but 30 seconds are really nothing for today's ships. Especially since you can't lock them before they've docked again due to some lameass timer. Docking really needs to be re-invented to weed out the fenceriders. Also Known As
iiOs The Cry of Mankind	Posted - 2007.09.06 10:27:00 - [8] one word : bumping ---------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- BB
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.09.06 10:30:00 - [9] Originally by: iiOs one word : bumping That's one helluva bump to get a battleship outside of docking range... Also Known As
Kastar Memphis Technologies	Posted - 2007.09.06 10:48:00 - [10] Originally by: Condecinte wardec a pirate corp, they won't dock Actually they're mostly the first to dock Many wannabe's are not used to "targets" bringing it. Then again, be careful what you say there. A pirate corp is not necessarily a pirate corp. I know a lot of people calling themselves pirates while they're actually more resembling one of these cute furry cuddlywuddlies you wanna hug at first sight and that you would have pity with and give them 15 isk for effort and leet spelling. There ought to be a quality label for the real good ones out there. -----------------------------------------------
Demarcus Revolting Cocks	Posted - 2007.09.06 10:50:00 - [11] What needs to be fixed is not the mechanic of it. What needs to be fixed is how far away from the station is considered 0km. Some stations it is literally like 50km away from the station before your 1km away. The bounding areas around some of the station models is ok but some are just absurd. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
Kalazar Amarr Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.06 10:58:00 - [12] Bumpaphoon. Very useful ship that. ----------------------------------------------
I SoStoned	Posted - 2007.09.06 11:06:00 - [13] Originally by: Kastar Originally by: Condecinte wardec a pirate corp, they won't dock Actually they're mostly the first to dock Many wannabe's are not used to "targets" bringing it. Aint that the truth. I was running 3 accounts moving cargo through lowsec, with one of my other corpmates scouting with the fourth hauler (a Prorator) because of their expected rapid warp speed. The three I was moving were all T1 and slow, but with lots of mids I had loaded out with AB, web, damps. Our scout jumps through a gate and finds an Absolution sitting on the other side with its sensor boosters running. He picks a station and hits the 'dock' button, but is almost instantly locked & scrammed. So I jump through the 3 haulers, AB toward the abso that's trying to catch up to the MWD'ing Prorator, and get all of my ships to target him. The prorator leads him past the mammoth and he gets webbed & damped (but not scrammed). The other mammoth and badger II get locks and add more damp. Now, mind... NONE of us had guns fitted... or scrams. The absolution gives up on the prorator and makes a run for the station... We continue on our way safely and I wiped my seat. I had 2 large POS towers & fuel in those three slow boats.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.06 11:30:00 - [14] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 06/09/2007 11:31:04 The thing about these "tubetankers" is that they sometimes bleat about blobs when you show up with enough force to kill them in thirty seconds Doubling the timer would help to make things more even. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.06 11:31:00 - [15] I think they should change it somehow so that when you undock, you are like 1km out of dock range so can't immediately redock again. Would stop these people who dock/undock all day.
d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.06 11:33:00 - [16] Originally by: LuzArius An enemy corp member attacks you, if the fight doesn't go his way he can stop attacking you for 30 seconds and dock. What is this carebear crap? If I wanted to play a carebear game I'd go play world of warcraft. If you attack a player no matter there should be at least a 5 minute timer that prevents you from docking. I thought EVE was for stronger players but I guess I was wrong. Corp Wars are a carebears paradise. "Oh i'm taking too much damage i'll just dock". Psh... I've been playing for like 30 days and I DEMAND that the timer be increased to at least 5 minutes. I hate carebears. Luzarius i dont do empire wars but: /signed
max bygraves	Posted - 2007.09.06 11:33:00 - [17] Edited by: max bygraves on 06/09/2007 11:35:11 Erm, Dont engage outside station ? Dont fight in empire ?
d026 THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.06 11:36:00 - [18] Originally by: max bygraves GO BACK TO WOW. we dont want to hear your pointless whines on here. go back to wow if you want safe wars! at least if you are the attacker you should get a 10min docking timer. 2mins should be sufficient for teh victim tough... (if he does not shoot back:)
Ladyah Liandri A GmbH	Posted - 2007.09.06 13:47:00 - [19] Originally by: I SoStoned Aint that the truth. I was running 3 accounts moving cargo through lowsec, with one of my other corpmates scouting with the fourth hauler (a Prorator) because of their expected rapid warp speed. The three I was moving were all T1 and slow, but with lots of mids I had loaded out with AB, web, damps. Our scout jumps through a gate and finds an Absolution sitting on the other side with its sensor boosters running. He picks a station and hits the 'dock' button, but is almost instantly locked & scrammed. So I jump through the 3 haulers, AB toward the abso that's trying to catch up to the MWD'ing Prorator, and get all of my ships to target him. The prorator leads him past the mammoth and he gets webbed & damped (but not scrammed). The other mammoth and badger II get locks and add more damp. Now, mind... NONE of us had guns fitted... or scrams. The absolution gives up on the prorator and makes a run for the station... We continue on our way safely and I wiped my seat. I had 2 large POS towers & fuel in those three slow boats. ROFL
Lyn Z Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites	Posted - 2007.09.06 13:50:00 - [20] The best thing I've ever seen was a Privateer trying to undock from a station so he could Armor Repair his ship. Now, this station had a few people he was at war with outside, and so his attempts we're getting to be rather counter-productive. So what does he do? He dropped his corp so he could safely undock and repair.
Avery Fatwallet	Posted - 2007.09.06 13:54:00 - [21] what would happen if we made the undocking ports give ships a slight "boost" by default? i dunno, catapult em out for 5km or so. with, you know... force... imho that would solve the undock bowling at crowded stations (yea, i LUV it, when people need to go afk there...) and make station games a lil more... impractical, as you actually could get webbed. yay/nay/maybay?
Exlegion KnightRaven Research KnightRaven Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.06 14:12:00 - [22] Originally by: d026 Originally by: max bygraves GO BACK TO WOW. we dont want to hear your pointless whines on here. go back to wow if you want safe wars! at least if you are the attacker you should get a 10min docking timer. 2mins should be sufficient for teh victim tough... (if he does not shoot back:) If the victim hasn't aggressed there is no reason why he/she should get an aggression timer or a time docking penalty. If you don't like shooting at station huggers then war dec a PVP corp. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru
Drokar Gazer SerpenT's CoiL	Posted - 2007.09.06 14:41:00 - [23] who really is the carebear? really now? EVE has many mechanics and EVERYONE uses them to their own advantage. Whether jumping into a gatecamp and deciding to mwd back to the gate (or try) to jump knowing you will be scrammed if u try to warp or bumping targets away from gates or stations to prevent them from doing just that. Complaining that you cannot use game mechanics as they are (and not exploits) calling others 'carebears' is laughable at best. Quit complaining... if he docks, use different tactics, dont blob him at a station knowing he has the option of docking.. and if you bring a fleet of ships and cant kill him before 30 seconds bring a bigger fleet or dont even try, cuz u will just complain. So you go back to WoW. EVE is hardcore, but its also a thinking mans game.. so..... think ________________________________________ Drokar Gazer Not the sig your looking for. Move along.
Leiko Fuku Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.06 16:33:00 - [24] Red agression timer = no dock. That's it and how it should be. If you decide to engage someone you better be ready.
Yuleth Gix	Posted - 2007.09.06 16:38:00 - [25] lol@op flamebait
Flamewave Scorn Again.	Posted - 2007.09.06 16:46:00 - [26] Either trick them onto a gate and catch them on the jump-in or bring enough heat to take them out before their timer runs out. And the timer for docking after aggression is one minute, not 30 seconds. If you're looking for solo fights, you won't find them at stations, so get clever. __________
VinnyTheBull	Posted - 2007.09.06 16:50:00 - [27] I agree, if you are fighting someone outside the station and they realize they are going to lose to you and they stop firing and dock that is bull****. This game is full of holes that let cowards fight and get away when they want to with no commitment to a fight. It is pathetic and cowards who try to fight you then decide they are losing and dock should not be able to do so. Of course, the carebears who employ this tactic will disagree, but shouldn't they be out mining?
Sebesto Minmatar Destination Unknown	Posted - 2007.09.06 16:52:00 - [28] Originally by: Condecinte wardec a pirate corp, they won't dock I know of some pirate corps that dock when they are war dec'd
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.09.06 17:03:00 - [29] If you cant kill his tank within the time it takes for him to realize he'll lose + the 30second aggression timer, I think your issue is NOT ccp, but with your own **ty fits. ----------------- Friends Forever** Kill. BoB. Dead.
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.09.06 17:06:00 - [30] Originally by: fire 59 I think they should change it somehow so that when you undock, you are like 1km out of dock range so can't immediately redock again. Would stop these people who dock/undock all day. . ----------------- Friends Forever Kill. BoB. Dead.

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