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VinnyTheBull
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Posted - 2007.09.06 17:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
If you cant kill his tank within the time it takes for him to realize he'll lose + the 30second aggression timer, I think your issue is NOT ccp, but with your own ****ty fits.
What kind of ships do you fly? Have you ever flown a battleship? Some ships take forever to kill eachother, sometimes it is a matter of who has more cap charges in their cargo hold even.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr
Falcon Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.06 17:24:00 -
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You ppl always find something to whine about, dont you?
If you fight ppl that know when to leave the fight then you picked the wrong targets. Find something that fights back and stop whining.
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VinnyTheBull
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Posted - 2007.09.06 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01
You ppl always find something to whine about, dont you?
If you fight ppl that know when to leave the fight then you picked the wrong targets. Find something that fights back and stop whining.
What if the target picks you and realizes he has a chance of losing? When it comes to pvping it should be full fledged pvp, not pvp with the carebear backdoor open incase you think your gonna lose. Why does everyone dismiss everything as a pointless whine? I guess I should dismiss you as a pointless carebear then. Well I guess some carebears aren't pointless, I like the ones that make me ships.
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Major Stallion
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.09.06 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Danton Marcellus
Originally by: iiOs
one word : bumping
That's one helluva bump to get a battleship outside of docking range...
never been bumped by another battleship fitted for this specific job? Machariels are great for this =D
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Merdaneth
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.06 18:20:00 -
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And it's not 30 seconds, its a full minute.
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Drykor
Minmatar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.09.07 00:58:00 -
[36]
Originally by: fire 59
I think they should change it somehow so that when you undock, you are like 1km out of dock range so can't immediately redock again. Would stop these people who dock/undock all day.
Agreed, just make it 2-3 km, or they'd only have to cross 500 meter to dock again, you can do that in almost everything, even double webbed, 'cause the lock/web effect isn't instant
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judes23
Kissaki Confederation
Slammer's Republic
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Posted - 2007.09.07 01:16:00 -
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/signed
i agree, to many times iv almost killed, but they have gotten away by docking
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Queen Killerz
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Posted - 2007.09.07 01:38:00 -
[38]
Winnie the pooh
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2007.09.07 02:13:00 -
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The station mechanics are so broken it's not even funny.
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Stakhanov
Katana's Edge
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Posted - 2007.09.07 02:30:00 -
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Just use an insta-undock to get away from station campers , and refuse to engage at stations. That's what I do...
Originally by: Cipher7
If you manage to get baited, what's your skill, being a good victim?
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Lance Cuthroat
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Posted - 2007.09.07 03:42:00 -
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So use your head and lure them out. Do your homework and you will find they aren't always so close to safety. Unless you are just lazy....
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illbebored
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Posted - 2007.09.07 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
If you cant kill his tank within the time it takes for him to realize he'll lose + the 30second aggression timer, I think your issue is NOT ccp, but with your own ****ty fits.
Surely a strong enough firepower would make the whole topic meaningless. But there are many entities in EVE that do not have (and probably dont want to have) the numbers of huge corps or alliances. With "normal" numbers, i am pretty sure you would agree that a Tier 3 BS, properly fitted and eventually rigged, cannot be popped within 30 seconds.
No whining intended, of course. But i wonder how funny could be undocking/getting shot at/docking back for a couple of hours.
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.09.07 12:44:00 -
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Something's surely off with that timer then 'cause we've had ships re-dock on us before we even could begin locking them.
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NeoTheo
Caldari
Dark Materials
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Posted - 2007.09.07 13:06:00 -
[44]
LEARN TO WEB AND SCRAM...
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W1ck3d 8uZz
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.07 13:10:00 -
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u aint bumping no1 if ur target is not moving/activating a module after undocking.. at least not for teh first 15ish or so seconds...
for more details see chapter 1 'Docking/Undocking'
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Forino Ovoli
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Posted - 2007.09.07 19:42:00 -
[46]
Originally by: fire 59
I think they should change it somehow so that when you undock, you are like 1km out of dock range so can't immediately redock again. Would stop these people who dock/undock all day.
Only if they also add the ability to see WHO and WHAT is outside before you undock.
I think it's ludicrous to put in something as you describe above and expect people to "undock in the blind."
Would there not be viewports or status displays in the station where you could see what was outside?
Add an option to get the "local vicinity" picture - the same thing you see when you undock - and then I would concur with your recommendation. Because then the person undocking would be able to make an informed decision about the external environment.
But, putting in any kind of "you can't redock" option only empowers griefers and station campers.
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Caligulus
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.09.07 21:20:00 -
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Well hey now, maybe when CCP finishes going off on that random "walking in stations" tangent we'll be able to stab those station huggers in the face on the station. yeah? 
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Laboratus
Gallente
BGG
League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.09.07 21:25:00 -
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Just get enoug dps to take him down in that 30 secs...
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.09.07 22:10:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Laboratus
Just get enoug dps to take him down in that 30 secs...
Like I was saying, we've seen ships dock up again before anyone even had a chance of locking him. Stations are broken.
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Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.07 22:18:00 -
[50]
Originally by: I SoStoned
Originally by: Kastar
Originally by: Condecinte
wardec a pirate corp, they won't dock 
Actually they're mostly the first to dock  Many wannabe's are not used to "targets" bringing it.
Aint that the truth. I was running 3 accounts moving cargo through lowsec, with one of my other corpmates scouting with the fourth hauler (a Prorator) because of their expected rapid warp speed. The three I was moving were all T1 and slow, but with lots of mids I had loaded out with AB, web, damps.
Our scout jumps through a gate and finds an Absolution sitting on the other side with its sensor boosters running. He picks a station and hits the 'dock' button, but is almost instantly locked & scrammed.
So I jump through the 3 haulers, AB toward the abso that's trying to catch up to the MWD'ing Prorator, and get all of my ships to target him. The prorator leads him past the mammoth and he gets webbed & damped (but not scrammed). The other mammoth and badger II get locks and add more damp.
Now, mind... NONE of us had guns fitted... or scrams.
The absolution gives up on the prorator and makes a run for the station...
We continue on our way safely and I wiped my seat. I had 2 large POS towers & fuel in those three slow boats.
All those people continually complaning about losing their, er... assets because of ganks could learn from this.
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Cambarus
Kissaki Confederation
Slammer's Republic
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Posted - 2007.09.08 05:33:00 -
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Leave the re-docking timers, and undocking in general, alone.
If you're at war with someone and you can't be bothered to fight them in any places other then stations, that's your fault and your problem.
If someone else wardecs you and only fights at stations, laugh at them and make a bookmark 250km from the entrance of the station (in the direction you face when you undock) and warp to it every time you undock, it will either force them to fight off the station or will keep you safe from them.
Really, it drives me nuts when pvpers complain about things like this. You're going to have to get over the fact that some people don't want to pvp. The game was not made to get you kills, and there are sooo many different ways to kill people in eve that the ones you don't kill due to station hugging really shouldn't matter all that much. CCP doesn't need to deal with people docking, you just need to be a little more creative in order to get your kills
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Moridin920
Gallente
Dust Echoes
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.08 06:21:00 -
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Bump 'em. Then watch them call you a hacker. It's great.
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Lady Caeser
Open Fist of Castallus
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:30:00 -
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1. nerf megabumping (such as macharial)
2. nerf aggression dock/jump timer up to 2 minutes to reflect addition of rigs and hp buff
3. ????
4. profit!
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LuzArius
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Posted - 2007.09.10 04:54:00 -
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Bumpage
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