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Empire marketslave
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:03:00 -
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i wish that they would give us t2 ships that we want
too many ships are being used for unintended roles because there are no ships to fit that role like carriers being used as haulers
i predict
8 bs 4 tier 2 destroyers 4 jump freighters 1 missing amarr frig 3 non racial ships for something i cant think of right now
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Lord Zoran
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Thuul'Khalat Nah.. rookies will from now on get T2 Noobships
omg t2 ibis of DOOM --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!!
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Soros
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.09.08 10:04:00 -
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t2 myrmidon ..... this forum doesn't have the icon I require for this thought
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Ishina Fel
Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.09.08 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Hyuuga Veralis
They're actually going to unnerf AFs by giving them their 4th bonus, as they are the only T2 ship to have only 3 bonuses.
This is actually not true! The Falcon also has only 3 bonuses in effect. 
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Zaphroid Eulthran
Minmatar Imperial Visions
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Posted - 2007.09.08 11:52:00 -
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20 new T2 ships, 5 per race
1x large transport/mini freighter per race (total 4) 1x carrier size jump freighter per race (total 8) 2x T2 BS per race (total 16) 1x salvage destroyer per race (total 20)
I can dream
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hhdfhfghfg
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Posted - 2007.09.08 13:30:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000
Originally by: fugimi what i'd like to know is what will the skill requirments for T2 BS's be ? can u guess ?
Well for the covert ops BS racial BS L5 for sure (which i have ) but for the rest... mebbe cloaking L5 (which would suck as thats just more timesink)
For the rest, mebbe a true T2 destroyer which has the tank to match the firepower (somehow it should suck against cruisers and above but should excel at wtfpwning T2 friggies )
give them high resists instead of lots of hps. the increased firepower over frigs for cruisers will definitely still get through the resist while the frigs will falter.
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Haerana
The Republican Guard The Sundering
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Posted - 2007.09.08 14:30:00 -
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i am the only person thinking about this logically. 20 new ships. thats 5 per race. K then. THe new Recon/missioning BS theres 3 BS per race atm. so i figure thats 1 mission running bs for each version. SO thats 12 of the new ships gone. 8left 2 per race... is it me or do most stuff like HACs and Recons all have 2 ships per class. So thats gonna be 2 recon BS with slightly differeing roles. thats the other 8
there ya go 20new ships. 2new recon BS per race and 3 new mission running BS per race.... thats just working on the info that i know of. I could be totally wrong but nobody else thought of this yet? (cba to read through all 7 pages so somebody may have mentioned this already)
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.08 14:51:00 -
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I'm not sure how they will do T2 destroyers. The Sabre is already a T2 destroyer, the other 3 simply arn't.
Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD'
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.09.08 16:38:00 -
[189]
madness?
THIS IS EVE! ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room... |

Lowbridge
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Posted - 2007.09.08 16:43:00 -
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OK in the Global Market you are apart of "Real" companies have a department called "PR" (Public Relations)and that department would not let a piece of crap like this get out or in the first place even happen. Are you kinding me .. come on who was the tool who kicked the camera at the begining and then let someone walk behind the interview location. Also it is called a "Sound Check". Really just poor form.
PS. 20 more ships  
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Ozmodan
Minmatar Knights Covenant
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Posted - 2007.09.08 17:16:00 -
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You have to remember that adding more t2 ships at the high end, BC's and BS's just further expand the gap between new players and older ones. You make that gap too large and new players are not going to wait around the time it they need to achieve skills to be competitive.
While it is understandable that many older players want something new, you have to be aware that this game relies on constant new blood to replace those that leave. Normal retention is only about 6 months now, that is hardly enough time to get a competitive pvp setup now. Learners permit still current |

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.08 18:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 08/09/2007 18:01:20 Thread statistics:- 198 posts
- 9x '300' references
- 3x complaints about '300' references
- 4x posts about complaints about '300' references
 - 1 post about posts about posts about '300' references.
That's still a signal-to-noise ratio of over 9 to 1. Keep the meme going! My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats |

Gretek Lal
Minmatar Fractal Holdings Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.09.08 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ozmodan You have to remember that adding more t2 ships at the high end, BC's and BS's just further expand the gap between new players and older ones....
...Normal retention is only about 6 months now, that is hardly enough time to get a competitive pvp setup now.
And of course, many of us (including older players like me) have no interest at all in PvP. So, I greet this news with a big yawn.
What about mining? What about production? What about us Eve citizens who live in Empire and do not want to move to 0.0 and shoot at other players?
Instead of introducing more T2 ships for the pvp crowd, how about making T1 ships more useful, especially frigates?
I don't fly T2 ships and see no point in training for them since I live in Empire.
Eve is moving closer and closer toward becoming just another mindless FPS. I sometimes wonder why I keep playing.
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Gamer4liff
Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2007.09.08 18:07:00 -
[194]
Good god, you're all horrible.
How many times has that god-awful "this is Sparta" meme been posted? Can the moderators please do something about this, it's ruining my forum experience.
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Speed Devil
Caldari Mean Machines
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Posted - 2007.09.08 18:56:00 -
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i think there will be a new class of ships just inbetween battleship and dreadnaught
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Achuramale
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Posted - 2007.09.08 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Gamer4liff Good god, you're all horrible.
How many times has that god-awful "this is Sparta" meme been posted? Can the moderators please do something about this, it's ruining my forum experience.
THHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSS IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
Sorry. 
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das licht
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.08 19:55:00 -
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I hope meh Khanid Navy Caracal comes with the next bundle, incl. some modules I hardly need!
kthnxby 
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Giatshi
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Posted - 2007.09.08 23:28:00 -
[198]
T2 stealth bombers...twice as useless at half the cost!!...batteries not included
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Amantus
Gallente Murientor Tribe
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Posted - 2007.09.09 00:05:00 -
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If there's a T2 domi which has T2 resists and an even better tank then I'm going to have to to alot of pants washing. ------------
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Asimov Andies
Gallente Red Blade Industries Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss
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Posted - 2007.09.09 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Gamer4liff Good god, you're all horrible.
How many times has that god-awful "this is Sparta" meme been posted? Can the moderators please do something about this, it's ruining my forum experience.
MADNESS... THIS IS ME KILLING A MOVIE REFERENCE!!!!
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Jack Jombardo
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Posted - 2007.09.09 00:53:00 -
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I want a real T2 Arbitrator :)
8 low slots (armor tank) 4 med slots 4 high slots ability to use 10 low/med drones at once where bonis are like this - +10% drone dammage/hp peer Carier level (maybe mining drone Yield) - +1 drone can be active peer (insert shiptype) level - +5km drone range/speed peer (insert shiptype) level
don't know about the slots. maybe 6 low /6 med /4 high. not to much high slots (it's a small carier then) but a good amount of low and propper med slots.
and a Cruiser where new players can suport there Corporations without dieing instantly even at level 4++ missions or PvP. it's a dam long way until you can fly (not only buy, FLY) something like a Interceptor or better to survive properly :(.
don't get me wrong, it should not be a killer or soloer ship, just something where you don't instant-pop after targeted while you suport your team. yes, there is a Suport-Ship but that needs you to train from 40 to 60 days just to bring it out of a station without any defens/suport/navigation skills.
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Excesse
Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.09 02:19:00 -
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Most requested and least time-consuming for CCP would be three T2 BS (one per tier) for each faction, plus two variants of the tier 2 BCs like we've already seen with the tier 1's. So... black ops bs, carebear bs, ??????? bs, and what they'll do with the tier 2 battlecruisers I don't even want to speculate - beyond requesting a vagacane. 
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Agetec Core
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Posted - 2007.09.09 03:49:00 -
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Full gank ftw! Lets see some 8/0/3 T2 BCs WOO!
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Stakhanov
Katana's Edge
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Posted - 2007.09.09 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rick Thwaites There is a video of the T2 BSes on YouTube. I am going to say that the Black Ops ship for the Caldari will be a scorpion hull - with that it will be like the Falcon or Rook, with better jamming.
They better not make the T2 domi the black ops BS and the T2 mega the carebear one  
Originally by: Excesse ...what they'll do with the tier 2 battlecruisers I don't even want to speculate - beyond requesting a vagacane. 
That reminds me of an idea I had... Raider BCs
Yummy T2 nanocane...
Originally by: Cipher7 If you manage to get baited, what's your skill, being a good victim?
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Attak
Trioptimum FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.09 06:05:00 -
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Edited by: Attak on 09/09/2007 06:13:18 I think adding 20 new ships is a stupid idea. We've got plenty of ships as it is. Combat mechanics could use some looking at before we start throwing more content into the mix.
That being said, content is a good way to attract subscribers, so I'll guess:
Jump drive equipped hauler x 4 T2 BS, bonus to damage vs. station services? x 8 T2 frig/destroyer for tracking down cloakers x 4 T2/tier2 dread??? x4
o and btw this is sparta
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.09.09 06:29:00 -
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I could care less about new stuff at this point in time, actually I don't want anymore new stuff. I want the stuff we have all balanaced and refined, and I would like bug fixes, less lag, and a modern user interface.
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Contralto
Gallente Department Of Health and Social Security
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Posted - 2007.09.09 06:47:00 -
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Anyone stopped to think where all these T2 BS are going to come from?
No more T2 BPO's so they will all require invention and with a 20% succsess rate on ships, and the requirements ie. max run T1 BS Bpc, perhaps 50 Datacores at current price of around 50 Mill, and decryptors costing 45 mill, all of which is lost during the process and times 5, taking in to account the failure rate.
Add the huge demand that there will be, these ships are goimg to cost a billion each and thats if you can find one. Also the very high skill requirements to invent them will reduce the supply. Starship datacores are 70k isk apiece atm, so they will rise in price by a factor of 10 and mech eng cores, currently at 1.3 mill each will be in short supply.
A knock on effect will be that all T2 ships will rise significantly in price due to material shortages and all the inventors turning their attention to the 20 new ships.
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prathe
Minmatar Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.09.09 07:31:00 -
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Edited by: prathe on 09/09/2007 07:33:29
Originally by: Soros t2 myrmidon ..... this forum doesn't have the icon I require for this thought
my thoughts exactly but wrong ship think about it ....tech 2 hurricane .... OMFG! yes please !!!!
wait let me specify more here this is what i want for this ship
copy the munnin bonuses exactly ....
colors like the sabre .....
300 more PG....
7 turrets....
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Gealbhan
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.09 09:32:00 -
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The 20 new ships are Jovian & will take a few extra lvl V skills to fly them... hey, I can dream 
"Concentrate all your fire on one target, when it is destroyed, move on to the next. That is how you secure victory". - Tactica Imperium. |

Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2007.09.09 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Gealbhan The 20 new ships are Jovian & will take a few extra lvl V skills to fly them... hey, I can dream 
*signs* You believe you can fly? You believe you can touch the sky? Flying Jovians every day, hope CCP don't take it away....you believe you can flyyyyy 
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