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Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:03:00 - [1] Edited by: Templer Relleg on 07/09/2007 06:04:41 This interview was posted today it seems: http://mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setView/videos/gameID/14/videoId/1118 Oveur stated that there will be.. Yes, dont fall off your chair.. 20 NEW T2 Ships?(EDIT: He said about 20) This is madness. Im looking forward to this. This is due november. New Mission and mission types aswell. Trinity 2. This is not new. But he said that they spent 50 man years on remodelling all ships.
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:03:00 - [2] This makes me happy in pants --- Do YOU have what it takes?
Marux	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:07:00 - [3] Indeed
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:07:00 - [4] Fantastic PR. Telling the rest of the world before bothering to inform your loyal customers. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:09:00 - [5] Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 07/09/2007 06:10:25 Originally by: Templer Relleg Edited by: Templer Relleg on 07/09/2007 06:04:41 This interview was posted today it seems: http://mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setView/videos/gameID/14/videoId/1118 Oveur stated that there will be.. Yes, dont fall off your chair.. 20 NEW T2 Ships?(EDIT: He said about 20) This is madness. Im looking forward to this. This is due november. New Mission and mission types aswell. Trinity 2. This is not new. But he said that they spent 50 man years on remodelling all ships. Revelation III will be the best I think of all the Revelation parts I think... And yes, 20 new ships would even wet chuck norris's pants!!! And then... ambulation ofcource... Its great to be a EVE player these days! Oh, here's the LINKY for the link-o-holics! Originally by: Splagada you're on eve-o, just go for blunt insults and random crap, please!
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:11:00 - [6] Originally by: Ricdic Fantastic PR. Telling the rest of the world before bothering to inform your loyal customers. Ofc... any PR department would do that. We are already loyal customers, why ruin big announcements and news by having them leaked my everyone and their dog rather than use it to draw MORE loyal customers. --- Do YOU have what it takes?
Iracham Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:11:00 - [7] New ships? Do want.
Brutor Shaun	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:13:00 - [8] Excuse me if I don't get excited until it's officially announced on this site, with full details and a breakdown what's planned. Bookmark Idea - My skills
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:13:00 - [9] 5/race...Cool! Hey...wait a minute! That should surely be 20 ships +1 frigate for Amarr Without the courage the fellow, tumbles out here to me.
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:13:00 - [10] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat Originally by: Ricdic Fantastic PR. Telling the rest of the world before bothering to inform your loyal customers. Ofc... any PR department would do that. We are already loyal customers, why ruin big announcements and news by having them leaked my everyone and their dog rather than use it to draw MORE loyal customers. Why not release a dev blog to coincide with that information? Meanwhile 20,000 active paying people don't even know of new ships in Rev III whilst new customers are considering signing up based on a movie that we haven't seen. Obviously an exageration as it was picked up pretty fast, but still annoying having to rely on a 3rd party advertising site for new information on the game. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here

Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:14:00 - [11] 20 new T2 ships = 5 new ships per race. So... T2 destroyers? More T2 cruisers? T2 battleships?
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:17:00 - [12] Originally by: Amarria Black 20 new T2 ships = 5 new ships per race. So... T2 destroyers? More T2 cruisers? T2 battleships? Super Interdictors :) Can stop motherships from doing anything Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking Originally by: TheDagda click For the love of the jovians stops necroing
Terra Fury The Adeptus Mechanicus	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:17:00 - [13] This isnt madness....THIS IS SPARTA!!!! But back to the point. Yeah, there's a fiesta in my pants right now.
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:19:00 - [14] T2 Battleships in a cov-ops role has already been mentioned by CCP. I don't really see what role another t2 destroyer would fill. --- Do YOU have what it takes?
Sirial Soulfly	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:25:00 - [15] More t2 ships doesnt mean new ship models unfortunately, just some added fluff, like flappy wings, pointy moving chins, and more shiney colours.
Iracham Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:29:00 - [16] Chin-Ships are just frightening.
Ashaz Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:38:00 - [17] ooh I get thet tingly christmas feeling __________________________________ Gallente by birth. Amarr by choice. iDrone
Ciphero The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:40:00 - [18] T2 battleships are certainly intended for Rev 3 - that was stated in Hammerhead's interview. In fact, two different types of T2 battleship. The PVE-grinder and the Black Ops Battleships (anyone else notice that Black Ops Battleship = "BOB"? TINFOILOMG) would count for 2 of the (per race) 5 new ships. Gotta say, though, that it is getting irritating that CCP never bother to tell us about this kinda thing. I've got no problem with them announcing such things elsewhere, but a simultaneous dev blog or something would make us customers feel a little less forgotten. --
Jennai The Silent Rage R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:42:00 - [19] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat T2 Battleships in a cov-ops role has already been mentioned by CCP. I don't really see what role another t2 destroyer would fill. an eris alternative that isn't impossible to fit
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:43:00 - [20] Transport ship(doubt it), second logistic(really doubt it), second interdictor and two battleships. That'd do the 5. Still thinking the Amarr is missing one frigate that should be added on that list of new ships. Without the courage the fellow, tumbles out here to me.

Atreus Danerun Amarr Caldari Bank	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:51:00 - [21] With 5 New T2 ships per race, this would mean that Invention by itself will not be able to keep up with demand. So, where does that leave the player-base as far as the BPOs of those ships go? Will we have another round of the "lottery" that was supposedly over? How will the BPOs be distributed? Will the Inventors get a lucky chance to create a BPO through the invention process? Lets say: 2x T2 BS 1x T2 Salvage/Some Additional Industry Ship 1x T2 Interdictor What else..... I mean what can possibly be added other than 2x T2 Battleships per race? I am really concerned about the Invention not being able to keep up though, and I do want to find out how I can get my grubby hands on a BPO of a few of them. T2 SALES & SERVICE
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:52:00 - [22] T2 Myrmidom, NOW! I was sworn absolute love by Pepperami
Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:52:00 - [23] I PREDICT AND HAVE BEEN PREDICTING FOR MONTHS THE FOLLOWING (also numbers) 4x T2 Ewar frigates (Griffin, 4x T2 tier 2 battlecruisers 1x Proper astrometrics frigate for amarr (Can't ALL be T2 ships ) 4x tier 2 destroyers, heavier with more fittings (Shwing!) 4x T2 tier 2 destroyers based on tank, wannabe light hacs = 17 I think I'm missing one, or two... Hm. I'd like to see tier 3 transports actually. T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers \| Eve GUI Tweaks
Rhys Elenrhun	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:54:00 - [24] Can someone get this on eve-files... for some reason I have never been able to access the mmorpg site, if it comes up at all I get this: ï¼Tmk¦0¦£@¦+-v-Où¦hGdk¢B¦uPH`îm+>¦Zm-ôS+ÑS+n£˜ªni û,K˜·_úKZ-++Gâfúe¦Pkú++¿ò>?+-K-)¦+¦N¦=4¯f+ë÷U-}u¦.¦»tl¯d+¥QìT%»½±@·ßÿ¢/¯-c½ù¢¦Q'7PF÷¦fp¦+nWpù&ÖO¥Å-~\|¦p-¦--¥L^]?ºp,Ia·¯=?ßÿT û+x=0f3.d»ÉIv}Ç!+²~ißôEgs+^¦ódnLª1sKPkL"SR¦xÇYÇtî Qª D+8£KQöcV¦B-}¦¦Ü,Æê)ÑûÉ¦{+ä-9ºXBBí¬/EÉ%Wh-»«c9V+:ük)BTèïî%}8ì`Fë+¦=º+£ E¦Wä-_ñR¼5pë¦Z- æ¯K++FPPPÜ'Ä=æ<&ò¦1\|+\| +ê¦àòI)-SkÜ ÖXV?tSè ¦+¦ë >C2Å ¬"+T_+p·@_Ä*½PmùeiÑ¬ÉyTA¦91vg·a·+ï ¬üsd ]èHa¦½<¦«1+NÉ-ò-¡·+@l²bÇg¦6¦÷2-_e aYT¦¦W6côà-X]r½ etc. etc...

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:57:00 - [25] T2 shuttles?! Help me help you .

Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:57:00 - [26] Nah.. rookies will from now on get T2 Noobships --- Do YOU have what it takes?
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:58:00 - [27] Anybody else think that was a poorly produced interview? Found the background noise really distracting :/ Could hardly hear old oveur Improve Market Competition!
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.07 06:59:00 - [28] Then again, we could be looking at a whole new class of ships. Like the logistics, interdictor etc were T2 variants. A...umm...flack cannon ship? BAsed on the destroyer. Missile killer extraordinare Without the courage the fellow, tumbles out here to me.
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:01:00 - [29] Madness? This! Is! EVE-O! ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
MasterDecoy Gallente The Grifters	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:05:00 - [30] Originally by: Rhys Elenrhun Can someone get this on eve-files... for some reason I have never been able to access the mmorpg site, if it comes up at all I get this: ï¼Tmk¦0¦£@¦+-v-Où¦hGdk¢B¦uPH`îm+>¦Zm-ôS+ÑS+n£˜ªni û,K˜·_úKZ-++Gâfúe¦Pkú++¿ò>?+-K-)¦+¦N¦=4¯f+ë÷U-}u¦.¦»tl¯d+¥QìT%»½±@·ßÿ¢/¯-c½ù¢¦Q'7PF÷¦fp¦+nWpù&ÖO¥Å-~\|¦p-¦--¥L^]?ºp,Ia·¯=?ßÿT û+x=0f3.d»ÉIv}Ç!+²~ißôEgs+^¦ódnLª1sKPkL"SR¦xÇYÇtî Qª D+8£KQöcV¦B-}¦¦Ü,Æê)ÑûÉ¦{+ä-9ºXBBí¬/EÉ%Wh-»«c9V+:ük)BTèïî%}8ì`Fë+¦=º+£ E¦Wä-_ñR¼5pë¦Z- æ¯K++FPPPÜ'Ä=æ<&ò¦1\|+\| +ê¦àòI)-SkÜ ÖXV?tSè ¦+¦ë >C2Å ¬"+T_+p·@_Ä½PmùeiÑ¬ÉyTA¦91vg·a·+ï ¬üsd ]èHa¦½<¦«1+NÉ-ò-¡·+@l²bÇg¦6¦÷2-_e aYT¦¦W6côà-X]r½ etc. etc... and you can't read this because??? also: weeeeee /me prays for a tier 3 HAC (t2 exequoror, +20% uselessness per level) Originally by:* Evilempire1 good, im pentitioning you for slandering.

slothe Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:06:00 - [31] personally im not convinced we need more t2 ships. the ships classes seem pretty balanced atm tbh.
Bellum Eternus Gallente Blood Corsair's The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:09:00 - [32] Rhys- You're not missing much, but he did say (and I quote) "twenty new T2 ships". That's five new ships per race. I'm going to guess that we're going to get at least two T2 BS per race, possibly three (T2 Tier 3 maybe), maybe T2 Tier 2 BCs (a Myrm with a real drone bay?! Is it possible?!), and probably a few support/industrial T2 ships (ick) and/or possibly something cool in the frigate department (I'd love to see some T2 EW frigs like a buffed up Helios with a damp bonus and larger drone bay). I'm sure one of the T2 BS will be the mission running design, and the other the black ops ship. I really hope that the Mega ends up being Gallente's blackops ship, because I can't stand to look at the Dominix (or they could just remodel the Domi so it doesn't suck to look at). If they made T2 versions of the Tier 2 BCs, that would just be awesome. I'd looooove to see a T2 Hurricane and a T2 Harbinger. The Myrm and Drake would be nice too, but drones die to gate guns, and the Drake with even more of a tank and more dps would just be crazy. Maybe Recon versions for the Tier 2 BCs. Cloaking Hurricanes? Scary! Speaking of cloaks, what if they made a module that didn't actually make you invisible, but made you unscannable? People could visually ID you, but they wouldn't be able to see you on the long range scanner, or probe you out. Or maybe it's a function of distance/sig res., and you only appear on scan if they're close enough, and they have a high enough sensor strength or are using active sensors (probes). [Video]Blood Corsairs - Day One
Depp Knight Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:10:00 - [33] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat T2 Battleships in a cov-ops role has already been mentioned by CCP. I don't really see what role another t2 destroyer would fill. From the rumours that I have heard, the Tear 2 dictor will be a cloak ship finder. How its done I have no idea but one of the reasons behind it is because destroyers are meant to find submarines. ie; dictors are meant to find cloak ships.
RaTTuS BIG	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:11:00 - [34] T2 shuttles T2 noobs ships T2 BS T2 BC T2 Destroyer ther you go -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve & RaTTuS Home
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:12:00 - [35] 20 new ships.... this could also mean they are remoddeling some ships. also I suspect that a newly skinned pod counts as a 'ship' I'll also wait for CCP official word on this before I wet my pants. ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." Originally by: Royaldo complete win by Cornucopian!
Nizbah Task Force Zener Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:12:00 - [36] WTF is up with all the people talking in the background?
Kransthow AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:13:00 - [37] Tier 2 Tech 2 Destroyer which could launch webbing bubbles would make me happy
Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:17:00 - [38] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Then again, we could be looking at a whole new class of ships. Like the logistics, interdictor etc were T2 variants. A...umm...flack cannon ship? BAsed on the destroyer. Missile killer extraordinare Well I'd like that, but for new T2 ships we have to look for T2 ships to base em off. Somehow I doubt 3/4 races want ANOTHER missile-based destroyer... T2 Griffin = hawt, T2 Bantam I ******* want, but I doubt I'll get Other than that we're left to just T2 BC's (See my sig), T2 BS (Still not sure if I want them in unless they're JPG/CVB/refitting/etc.-based ships), and tier 2 dictors What would be REALLY cool are ranged T2 destroyers. Ranged anti-frigate MACHINES. Ofc minmatar would be the best again, arty sabres can already instapop a lot of light stuff, imagine if you could manage damage mods on it T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers \| Eve GUI Tweaks
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:19:00 - [39] Originally by: Depp Knight Originally by: Thuul'Khalat T2 Battleships in a cov-ops role has already been mentioned by CCP. I don't really see what role another t2 destroyer would fill. From the rumours that I have heard, the Tear 2 dictor will be a cloak ship finder. How its done I have no idea but one of the reasons behind it is because destroyers are meant to find submarines. ie; dictors are meant to find cloak ships. Very good point. In general I hope all new t2 ships are designed for specific tasks, and don't follow the old norm with just more tank and more gank. The tier2 battlecruisers has already more or less made HACs obsolete, buffed versions of them would be a nightmare. T2 battleships have been somewhat revealed already, so that's 2, let's go with the "subkiller" and we have 3, Maybe a T2 BC based on the tier2 finally will give us the "Flagship", insane tank but no weapons, just gangmods, basically a ship made for the FC, and we have 4. Final ship? Maybe a t2 salvage ship? Science vessel (exploration)? --- Do YOU have what it takes?
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:21:00 - [40] I'd love to have a hauler that's a middle step between a transport ship and a freighter. And a dedicated salvage ship that I didn't cobble together in my basement. T2 destroyer with double cargohold and a -99% fitting bonus to capital tractor beam? YESPRZ.

Plentimon	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:37:00 - [41] KHANID HARBINGER GET!! Also, I hope our poor Amarr Indy's get some love with the Trinity graphics upgrade.
Blank Protection Caldari Unified Refining Federation Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:37:00 - [42] Edited by: Blank Protection on 07/09/2007 07:38:57 Actually im not happy with this at all. Where is the need for speed and all that stuff to let the game run smoother? I rather see some heavy lag reduction and and some changes in the skill training part to make the game less time consuming. Game becomes bigger and bigger and the lag growes with it. Stop adding stuff to the game and nerfing a lot. Isnt it getting time to train at least more than 1 skill at the same time,for example 2 or 3 skills? With all respect but training for a carrier or Dread takes 7-12 month`s and when you can finally fly one it gets destroyed not by reds but due to the lag fest. Nerf at least the time consumming part of the game if you cant fix the lag.
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:40:00 - [43] Originally by: Blank Protection Edited by: Blank Protection on 07/09/2007 07:38:57 Actually im not happy with this at all. Where is the need for speed and all that stuff to let the game run smoother? I rather see some heavy lag reduction and and some changes in the skill training part to make the game less time consuming. Game becomes bigger and bigger and the lag growes with it. Stop adding stuff to the game and nerfing a lot. Isnt it getting time to train at least more than 1 skill at the same time,for example 2 or 3 skills? With all respect but training for a carrier or Dread takes 7-12 month`s and when you can finally fly one it gets destroyed not by reds but due to the lag fest. Nerf at least the time consumming part of the game if you cant fix the lag. New graphics engine is supposed to ease load a lot and will help on client side lag. --- Do YOU have what it takes?
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:45:00 - [44] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 07/09/2007 07:45:41 Originally by: Plentimon KHANID HARBINGER GET!! Also, I hope our poor Amarr Indy's get some love with the Trinity graphics upgrade. No no no no no! Although a black harbinger would make me wet my pants, i don't want a missile harbi running a muck Now a Cartum Harbinger...mm.....larger dronebay...8th gun...more midslots...mmmmmm.....or atleast decent base resists. Without the courage the fellow, tumbles out here to me.
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:47:00 - [45] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 07/09/2007 07:45:41 Originally by: Plentimon KHANID HARBINGER GET!! Also, I hope our poor Amarr Indy's get some love with the Trinity graphics upgrade. No no no no no! Although a black harbinger would make me wet my pants, i don't want a missile harbi running a muck Now a Cartum Harbinger...mm.....larger dronebay...8th gun...more midslots...mmmmmm.....or atleast decent base resists. Again, that would obsolete HACs even more than they already are and be ridicoulusly overpowered. --- Do YOU have what it takes?
Plentimon	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:49:00 - [46] We should petition CCP to swap the Carthum/Khanid colour schemes.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:49:00 - [47] That was probably the worst interview I've ever seen, due to the background noise, both the interviewer and interviewee not "being there".. they both seemed like they had better things to do, not too mention, the person interviewing didn't know a damn thing about Eve. The Beginning <-- crap quality, need to redo, sorry :(
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:49:00 - [48] Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 07/09/2007 07:50:07 Originally by: Thuul'Khalat Again, that would obsolete HACs even more than they already are and be ridicoulusly overpowered. Well i'm just more against another khanid ship, although harbi with missiles would be cool too. HArbinger is one of my favorite ships, along with "the other" battlecruiser us Amarr are blessed with, and if i had to choose between a carthum or khanid variant, absed on what i see in the command ship department, i'd have to go with CArthum. Also the racing colors of carthum just make me equally happy in my pants as the black khanid ones Originally by: Plentimon We should petition CCP to swap the Carthum/Khanid colour schemes. Oh yes! Or atleast change the gold color on carthum to black. Black and red...drooooooooool My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Annerinas	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:54:00 - [49] Neat. I hope that included are: Cloak hunters. Mini-freighter w/ jump drive. T2 shuttles =) Exploration ship. Low/nul sec mining barge. Also what the guy a few posts up said. Prefer decreased timesinks over pretty new ships. Nothing that affects 1 group but hurts another (like changing warp times). Faster skill training should fit the bill. Or queued training. I don't understand why "invention can't handle 20 new ships". Isn't invention pretty much just market factors? If existing inventors can't handle extra invention, other players will change their skill plans to cash in.
Blank Protection Caldari Unified Refining Federation Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:55:00 - [50] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat New graphics engine is supposed to ease load a lot and will help on client side lag. With all respect but i dont believe it anymore. They promised with every new patch more speed and a smoother running game. But its far from that. Dont get me wrong,Eve is a great game but there are really other things that needs to get nerfed and fixed instead of adding more bullstuff to the game. Add a new skill that will reduce the training time or let us train multiple skills at the same time. Fix the lag its not client side for ***** sake. No whe really dont need more stuff adding to the game its just putting a cloud over the real problems in game to make it more fun to play.

Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.07 07:59:00 - [51] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 07/09/2007 07:50:07 Originally by: Thuul'Khalat Again, that would obsolete HACs even more than they already are and be ridicoulusly overpowered. Well i'm just more against another khanid ship, although harbi with missiles would be cool too. HArbinger is one of my favorite ships, along with "the other" battlecruiser us Amarr are blessed with, and if i had to choose between a carthum or khanid variant, absed on what i see in the command ship department, i'd have to go with CArthum. Also the racing colors of carthum just make me equally happy in my pants as the black khanid ones Originally by: Plentimon We should petition CCP to swap the Carthum/Khanid colour schemes. Oh yes! Or atleast change the gold color on carthum to black. Black and red...drooooooooool Am I the only person that's actually happy with Khanid these days? Oh, and a missile Harby w/ T2 stats would be incredibly broken.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.07 08:02:00 - [52] Originally by: Amarria Black Am I the only person that's actually happy with Khanid these days? Oh, and a missile Harby w/ T2 stats would be incredibly broken. Oh i'm happy with khanid, good thing, all yei!...i just like carthum better. And since i like carthum, and i don't want harbi to be become a missile boat, i'd vote carthum. Khanid is a welcome addition to our armada, it's simply a matter of liking those guys in red more My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.07 08:06:00 - [53] Originally by: Blank Protection Originally by: Thuul'Khalat New graphics engine is supposed to ease load a lot and will help on client side lag. With all respect but i dont believe it anymore. They promised with every new patch more speed and a smoother running game. But its far from that. Dont get me wrong,Eve is a great game but there are really other things that needs to get nerfed and fixed instead of adding more bullstuff to the game. Add a new skill that will reduce the training time or let us train multiple skills at the same time. Fix the lag its not client side for ***** sake. No whe really dont need more stuff adding to the game its just putting a cloud over the real problems in game to make it more fun to play. The graphics engine we have now, Trinity, runs almost entirely on the CPU. I know of nothing in Eve that runs on the GPU, although I'm no expert. That means graphics, the game, the chat windows, EVERYTHING runs entirely on your CPU. We're running on an outdated engine. Rev 3, which will bring Trinity 2, will push Eve to run on the GPU like every other game in the world. People like me that haven't got a nice and expensive CPU but have a nice new graphics card (the result of RMA) really feel the effects of this in Eve, but don't come close in other games. I can run Bioshock on max, but struggle to run Eve on full in even slightly large-scaled fights. So, yes, Eve will run faster in Rev 3. Start believing it. T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers \| Eve GUI Tweaks
Pan Crastus Amarr	Posted - 2007.09.07 08:10:00 - [54] Originally by: Templer Relleg Edited by: Templer Relleg on 07/09/2007 06:09:05 Edited by: Templer Relleg on 07/09/2007 06:04:41 This interview was posted today it seems: http://mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setView/videos/gameID/14/videoId/1118 Oveur stated that there will be.. Yes, dont fall off your chair.. 20 NEW T2 Ships?(EDIT: He said about 20. Go to 13:30, he states that there) This is madness. Im looking forward to this. This is due november. New Mission and mission types aswell. Trinity 2. This is not new. But he said that they spent 50 man years on remodelling all ships. Oh well, many FCs have problems with the existing ships already, it will be hilarious when they get it all wrong ... ("what does that ship do again?") EVE Online: a cold, cruel world where (RL-)rich people replace their losses with GTCs sold to poor students who need to farm ISK to afford their play time ...
Aioa Planetary Assault Systems	Posted - 2007.09.07 08:28:00 - [55] Originally by: Rhys Elenrhun Can someone get this on eve-files... for some reason I have never been able to access the mmorpg site, if it comes up at all I get this: ï¼Tmk¦0¦£@¦+-v-Où¦hGdk¢B¦uPH`îm+>¦Zm-ôS+ÑS+n£˜ªni û,K˜·_úKZ-++Gâfúe¦Pkú++¿ò>?+-K-)¦+¦N¦=4¯f+ë÷U-}u¦.¦»tl¯d+¥QìT%»½±@·ßÿ¢/¯-c½ù¢¦Q'7PF÷¦fp¦+nWpù&ÖO¥Å-~\|¦p-¦--¥L^]?ºp,Ia·¯=?ßÿT û+x=0f3.d»ÉIv}Ç!+²~ißôEgs+^¦ódnLª1sKPkL"SR¦xÇYÇtî Qª D+8£KQöcV¦B-}¦¦Ü,Æê)ÑûÉ¦{+ä-9ºXBBí¬/EÉ%Wh-»«c9V+:ük)BTèïî%}8ì`Fë+¦=º+£ E¦Wä-_ñR¼5pë¦Z- æ¯K++FPPPÜ'Ä=æ<&ò¦1\|+\| +ê¦àòI)-SkÜ ÖXV?tSè ¦+¦ë >C2Å ¬"+T_+p·@_Ä*½PmùeiÑ¬ÉyTA¦91vg·a·+ï ¬üsd ]èHa¦½<¦«1+NÉ-ò-¡·+@l²bÇg¦6¦÷2-_e aYT¦¦W6côà-X]r½ etc. etc... The movie just craps out after 3 secs for me, can someone host it please?
MasterDecoy Gallente The Grifters	Posted - 2007.09.07 08:29:00 - [56] Originally by: LUKEC I want t2 moros and t2 nyx. lol i <3 you Originally by: Evilempire1 good, im pentitioning you for slandering.
Topaz Skydiver Minmatar Narrative Freshfood	Posted - 2007.09.07 08:30:00 - [57] Edited by: Topaz Skydiver on 07/09/2007 08:30:18 Something to chew on for the vets: Tech-2 dread, carrier, mom and titan. Prerequisite racial dread, carrier, titan V and capital ships V at least. That's 16. 4 missing, maybe something for the nubs. Tech-2 rookie ships. --------------------------------------------- snip
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 08:34:00 - [58] Originally by: Topaz Skydiver Edited by: Topaz Skydiver on 07/09/2007 08:30:18 Something to chew on for the vets: Tech-2 dread, carrier, mom and titan. Prerequisite racial dread, carrier, titan V and capital ships V at least. That's 16. 4 missing, maybe something for the nubs. Tech-2 rookie ships. or perhaps a T2 Titan!! where you can bolt two racial friendly titans together to form a planetsized monstrosity!!!!!!!! An erebus locking onto a minmatar titan for ultimate pwnage. it has like 30 guns and different seats for multiple pilots, a special drone interface that can launch 5 Dreads as DRONES. or 10 BSes!!! ZOMG! ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." Originally by: Royaldo complete win by Cornucopian!
ForceM Gallente POS Builder Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.07 08:38:00 - [59] Edited by: ForceM on 07/09/2007 08:43:13 Originally by: Sirial Soulfly stuff pointy moving chins stuff You must be talking about the Eos :) Originally by: Cornucopian or perhaps a T2 Titan!! where you can bolt two racial friendly titans together to form a planetsized monstrosity!!!!!!!! Uhhh ... im not sure if you checked out the pictures of the current Titans yet ... but there already planet sized AND monstrosities. ----- Quote: Dun kill me eris coming to fanfest by any chance? eris GULP
Thuul'Khalat Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 08:47:00 - [60] I'm still lobbying towards Oveur to let me weld together 1000 velators to create the uber titan of civilian blaster pwnage... A case of JDs we agreed on wasn't it Oveur? --- Do YOU have what it takes?

Syrin Wildfire Laboratrories The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 08:56:00 - [61] Theres a blob of T2 ships in the item database that arent on TQ currently. Another AF for each race (erinye for gal), a HAC (phobos for gal) the t2 BS and a few more. Dunno if those are the ones that are going to be released.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.07 08:59:00 - [62] Originally by: Syrin Theres a blob of T2 ships in the item database that arent on TQ currently. Another AF for each race (erinye for gal), a HAC (phobos for gal) the t2 BS and a few more. Dunno if those are the ones that are going to be released. Any hint to where i can see this? Id love to see the stats.
Shevar Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:04:00 - [63] Originally by: Blank Protection With all respect but i dont believe it anymore. They promised with every new patch more speed and a smoother running game. But its far from that. Dont get me wrong,Eve is a great game but there are really other things that needs to get nerfed and fixed instead of adding more bullstuff to the game. Add a new skill that will reduce the training time or let us train multiple skills at the same time. Fix the lag its not client side for ***** sake. No whe really dont need more stuff adding to the game its just putting a cloud over the real problems in game to make it more fun to play. Back in 2004 when i quited the game (i restarted a few months ago) the average blob nodecrashing fight was around 100 vs 100 orso. Nowadays it starts taking the node down at like 400 to 600 people. If you don't call that an improvement I don't know what is. Also I'm sure you want people that design ships to work on the network code of the servers, yeah I'm certain that that will really improve the situation! --- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik Gallente Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:09:00 - [64] Interesting at the end how he mentioned the developement of better New Player Experiences, particularly the idea of grouping alliances or helping noobs find the right corp for them. Look forward to that development. As a side note the reason that they probably didnt want to announce that interview was because how bad it was. That wasnt an interviewer who had game experience talking to a producer. That felt more like an awkward dinner date on handy cam at an after work drinks function. If that is truly the calibre of interviewers for gaming, either mmo's or even single player games could a mod please give me an email that I could send a resume. Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place? Neon GhostYou do, but this is compensated for by lag
Syrin Wildfire Laboratrories The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:21:00 - [65] Originally by: Templer Relleg Originally by: Syrin Theres a blob of T2 ships in the item database that arent on TQ currently. Another AF for each race (erinye for gal), a HAC (phobos for gal) the t2 BS and a few more. Dunno if those are the ones that are going to be released. Any hint to where i can see this? Id love to see the stats. Ill see if i can find the website.. its one of those ones with all the eve items currently in the DB. If i remember , erinye is roden, 4 turret 2 launcher 6 hi Phobos is the roden thorax (yes pink thorax) 3 3 split on guns and missles. But ill see if i can find that website
Twilight Moon Minmatar Malicious Intentions Cult of War	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:21:00 - [66] Originally by: Syrin Theres a blob of T2 ships in the item database that arent on TQ currently. Another AF for each race (erinye for gal), a HAC (phobos for gal) the t2 BS and a few more. Dunno if those are the ones that are going to be released. They've been there forever...
Syrin Wildfire Laboratrories The Crimson Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:25:00 - [67] Originally by: Twilight Moon Originally by: Syrin Theres a blob of T2 ships in the item database that arent on TQ currently. Another AF for each race (erinye for gal), a HAC (phobos for gal) the t2 BS and a few more. Dunno if those are the ones that are going to be released. They've been there forever... Who knows, finally might see the light of day Database thingy Have to take it all with a pinch of salt, but i dont see why these wont be the ones
Grape Juice Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:26:00 - [68] If they came out with assault destroyers, I'd never be able to walk on stations because of the permanent boner I'd have. /me drools. (But of course the Minmatar one would pwn all, and be 4x the price of the others, but that's okay, I've got Mini Frig 5 too. )
Cpt Fina Insult to Injury	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:31:00 - [69] Originally by: Annerinas Neat. I hope that included are: Mini-freighter w/ jump drive. T2 freighters with a huuuuge tank
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:36:00 - [70] Five new ships for each race. Perhaps two covert op BS, two mission runner BS, one... something else. --- The Disclosure Project \| My UFO Thread (read it!)

Galimiy Portret R.u.S.H. Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:44:00 - [71] Originally by: Depp Knight Originally by: Thuul'Khalat T2 Battleships in a cov-ops role has already been mentioned by CCP. I don't really see what role another t2 destroyer would fill. From the rumours that I have heard, the Tear 2 dictor will be a cloak ship finder. How its done I have no idea but one of the reasons behind it is because destroyers are meant to find submarines. ie; dictors are meant to find cloak ships. ooooooh nice. Anymore insider rumours from an insider source? Hmm... Guess where those come from... ...now in RED
Sir Dancealot	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:44:00 - [72] MOAR SHIPS NAO, plox. Do want! Originally by: Incantare Thread does not deliver. I was expecting a story, funny, surprising or otherwise interesting. Instead I got to read Kehmor's smacking. Awesome.
Buck Starchaser	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:47:00 - [73] I call dibs on a phobos.
Gaven Blands	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:50:00 - [74] Edited by: Gaven Blands on 07/09/2007 09:50:47 A media marketting man said 20 new ships and you believed him 20 new ship models might be closer to true. Seeing as we've seen videos of a few of them. Lest we not forget they once said that we were getting a council of members to audit CCP's orchestrated cheating on behalf of certain alliances. And how did that progress? Well, the PR stunt worked, so why bother actually implementing it?
Segge Bolled Caldari Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:53:00 - [75] Money on some sort of support-role or raid-leader Covert Ops Battleship, though let us pray they don't use the Scorpion model ...
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:54:00 - [76] 5 ships per race? easy: T2 versions of all battleships (3 for each race) T2 version of the tier2 BC's (+1 ship) T2 version of either a frigate (some don't have T2 version yet) or a new tier2 destroyer and it's T2 version. (+1 per race = 5!) --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote: "Players are fine, boost guns"
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.09.07 09:59:00 - [77] I'd like to see more t1 ships but it sounds like they're all gonna be t2 stuff. Some t1 stuff could add more diversity. It'd be good. maybe a more useful destroyer or something. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Torquemanda Corteaz Gallente Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.09.07 10:14:00 - [78] I'd like to see a juggernaught class (supercap with dn capabilities) that would make me happy in my pants anyway T2 myrmidon too!
Xanos Blackpaw Amarr The Firestorm Elite	Posted - 2007.09.07 10:19:00 - [79] anyone else think that it will be +1 ship to amarr( it gets 8 turrets but the pg to fit 3 and a inverse cap bonus so it wont become overpowered). +1 ship to caldari(a T2 raven that can permarun 2 Xlarge boosters) +1 ship to mattar(T2 nanophoon with a starting mass of a rifter) +17 ships to gallente(T2 domi that use 20 fighters at the same time and with a bonus that makes the energy neuts need 0 cap.) ok all joking aside...give me more ships!! Playing minmatar is "like going down a flight of stairs in a office chair firing an Uzi".
Kirjava Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.07 10:29:00 - [80] I just want to know which Caldari BS is getting the T2 supershine(TM). That way I can start mass BPC copying for invention in a few months time

Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.09.07 10:31:00 - [81] My guess is: T2 Blackops BS T2 mission runner BS Heavy assalut destroyer the decloaking destroyer thingie T2 version of the tier 2 BC Originally by: Karanth Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
Leroy Payne	Posted - 2007.09.07 10:35:00 - [82] I think the next logical step is a new class of supercapital ship which would have the following attributes on top of normal supercap ewar immunity: doesnt need cap to jump super resistance bonuses has a special anti interdictor bubble device so can escape whenever can fire doomsday has freighter cargohold -80% per level capital jump fuel range and requirements per level err what else, it should be able to go totally invulnerable for 5 minutes every hour it should cost 1000 bn isk, so that the richest people in eve can pwn everyone else because thats how the game should be.
Steini OFSI Gallente Minigame	Posted - 2007.09.07 10:37:00 - [83] THIS IS CCP
Zoi Opia APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.07 10:40:00 - [84] I'd like to see: 1 frig (Amarr) 2 indys (Amarr + Cald) 4 destroyers (1 for each) 4 dictors (1 for each) 8 T2 BS (2 for each) 1 recon/logistics (Ore)
Grainsalt Free Corp	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:01:00 - [85] That Ovour does some crazy stuff when he is drunk.... --- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=554257
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:02:00 - [86] well 12 new t2 bs are expectable.. the 8 others woudl be??? probably the tier 2 BC and...? t2 Carriers? :P If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Voodoo Mistross Minmatar Cskillzone	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:07:00 - [87] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat This makes me happy in pants I second that, this makes me happy for his pants...or something like that ôHe is one of those* people who would be enormously improved by death.ö*
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:08:00 - [88] Originally by: Voodoo Mistross Originally by: Thuul'Khalat This makes me happy in pants I second that, this makes me happy for his pants...or something like that Can i be happy in your pants then? My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
RedClaws Amarr Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:16:00 - [89] Would love to see some kind of official response here
fugimi	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:18:00 - [90] what i'd like to know is what will the skill requirments for T2 BS's be ? can u guess ?

Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:21:00 - [91] Gah, I hate it when they do that. Can't the drop us a hint before telling random people at a news website? We're only the people who are going to be flying the damned things... I'd guess that anywhere up to 12 of those will be T2 BS. 8 More...4 could be T2 versions of the tier 2 BCs. The other 4....salvaging ships? ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
Sirial Soulfly	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:22:00 - [92] Originally by: fugimi what i'd like to know is what will the skill requirments for T2 BS's be ? can u guess ? Battleship lvl 5 and all the social skills at lvl 5 for the mission runny bs.
Dedan Fusion Terminal Velocity Inc. Skunk-Works	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:27:00 - [93] I smell T2 Titans on the way..
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:29:00 - [94] Edited by: Arana Tellen on 07/09/2007 11:30:06 database is OLD. Mission running dominix: 10% drone damage per level + 5% hybrid damage +1 drone per level +5km drone control range Those would be my guesses --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:31:00 - [95] Originally by: fugimi what i'd like to know is what will the skill requirments for T2 BS's be ? can u guess ? Well for the covert ops BS racial BS L5 for sure (which i have ) but for the rest... mebbe cloaking L5 (which would suck as thats just more timesink) For the rest, mebbe a true T2 destroyer which has the tank to match the firepower (somehow it should suck against cruisers and above but should excel at wtfpwning T2 friggies ) CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:34:00 - [96] Originally by: Atreus Danerun With 5 New T2 ships per race, this would mean that Invention by itself will not be able to keep up with demand. So, where does that leave the player-base as far as the BPOs of those ships go? Will we have another round of the "lottery" that was supposedly over? How will the BPOs be distributed? Will the Inventors get a lucky chance to create a BPO through the invention process? Lets say: 2x T2 BS 1x T2 Salvage/Some Additional Industry Ship 1x T2 Interdictor What else..... I mean what can possibly be added other than 2x T2 Battleships per race? I am really concerned about the Invention not being able to keep up though, and I do want to find out how I can get my grubby hands on a BPO of a few of them. Or... they could just tweak invention success rates a little. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Jonny Magellan Amarr Dastardly Bastards Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:40:00 - [97] I am hoping for T2 ewar frigates to put back small ships into fleets at least. Not many mids but the biggest bonus per each out there. A real salvager ship could be done using the miner frigates model with a bonus to ammount salvaged, lots of cargo space and great speed. Another idea would be a pos infiltrator/hacker ship frig size as well for pos and such.
Contralto Gallente Department Of Health and Social Security	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:42:00 - [98] Bit confused on a small point! many here talking about a T2 Interdictor as part of the 20! surely the current interdictors are T2 Dessies, are we talking T3 Interdictors?
Mikal Drey Angels and Demons	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:44:00 - [99] hey hey This news makes me excited :)
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:47:00 - [100] Originally by: Contralto Bit confused on a small point! many here talking about a T2 Interdictor as part of the 20! surely the current interdictors are T2 Dessies, are we talking T3 Interdictors? They probably mean ANOTHER interdictor. As in, from another manufacturer. I'd personally love an amarr turret absed dictor My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.

Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.07 11:58:00 - [101] 20 new ships planned (5 per race) is not a lot of ships at all. Just the T2 battleships and you already have 8 of them (4 black ops and 4 "missioneer", one for each race). A tech-2 version of tier-2 battlecruisers would be in order, so that's another 4 at least (if not 8 total), depending on what kind of "class" they want to create for them. Another tech2 destroyer would be more than welcome (not necessarily an interdictor, but simply a new interdictor would be fine too), that's another 4. All races should also get their missing "tech2" frigates and cruisers (and Amarr needs its missing tech1 astrometrics frigate too, by the way). So, depending on how you look at it, that's 8 or even 12 tech 2 ships (plus one tech1). 12+4+8+8(+4) = 32 (36 with mining frigates, 50 if frigates/cruisers would also get two versions) new potential ships And we're only getting 20 of them. Not a lot if you ask me _ EVE GOLDEN RULES \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Kyanzes Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:06:00 - [102] Faction Heavy Assaults, T2 BCs and T2 BSs FTW
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:07:00 - [103] Originally by: Kyanzes Faction Heavy Assaults, T2 BCs and T2 BSs FTW You just want a faction vaga :p --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
Makhan	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:11:00 - [104] Too bad all the ships will be mind-numbingly expensive without the influence of T2 BPOs.
Templer Relleg Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:12:00 - [105] Originally by: Makhan Too bad all the ships will be mind-numbingly expensive without the influence of T2 BPOs. Hardly. Invention should make it quite cheap once the price is stable.
Raneru Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:18:00 - [106] MORE t2 ships?? The tourney commentators have enough trouble with the ones we have, adding more definately wont help
Lanu Caldari The Black Rabbits	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:20:00 - [107] Uploaded it to eve-files Yes DS it probably could be smaller :p Oh and I suggest you play it with vlc player if you want to playback etc http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/LIGHT/oveurinterview.mpg __________________ I'm not obsessing. I'm just curious.
Makhan	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:23:00 - [108] Edited by: Makhan on 07/09/2007 12:24:34 Originally by: Templer Relleg Originally by: Makhan Too bad all the ships will be mind-numbingly expensive without the influence of T2 BPOs. Hardly. Invention should make it quite cheap once the price is stable. Do you honestly believe that? 20 new ships, 20. Without constant production like that from BPOs the ships are doomed to be expensive as heck.
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:23:00 - [109] Originally by: Raneru MORE t2 ships?? The tourney commentators have enough trouble with the ones we have, adding more definately wont help Hehe, tech II battleships would probably eat all of your points in one go --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
Trishan Green Men Incorporated	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:24:00 - [110] Minnie ships will have a 3-way split weapon system, for added flexibility. As well, the new ewar bonus will change from web+paint to salvage+paint, so you can impress your enemies by salvaging yourself as the monster tank chews you down. The first battleship will require the skill Unmovable and Avoid Gravitational Collapse due to, for some reason, having 2^1024 times more mass than the rest of the ships. The speed characteristic of the minmatar is still visible, as the ship is easily considered a celestial object, and celestial objects orbit very fast. It is rumored that it will be able to fit a painter that will project a "I'm not a station!" in space. The second battleship won't be able to do as much damage nor tank it compared to most other battles, but it gets an extra high slot in exchange for two mediums and one low. It will also require Really Really Really Advanced Weapons Upgrades. At that point it is rumored that it might be able to shoot, and some say it might even be able to break a Reaper tank. People will love it because its faster than the previous ship (however, to actually be able to move, you must be ganged with 10 other people in mwding phoons.. this is a gang ship). To address this possible excessive speed and some concerns about it, t1 web overheating will increase web range 2000%. This will also rebalance the dps of the vagabond again, and put an end to the clamors that appear on the forum from time to time. As yet another bonus (wow!), all ships will now get one third of the capacitor of the other races to make them more nos resistant. After all their weapons require no cap and nobody really tanks.

Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:27:00 - [111] Edited by: Arana Tellen on 07/09/2007 12:27:26 Originally by: Trishan Minnie ships will have a 3-way split weapon system, for added flexibility. As well, the new ewar bonus will change from web+paint to salvage+paint, so you can impress your enemies by salvaging yourself as the monster tank chews you down. The first battleship will require the skill Unmovable and Avoid Gravitational Collapse due to, for some reason, having 2^1024 times more mass than the rest of the ships. The speed characteristic of the minmatar is still visible, as the ship is easily considered a celestial object, and celestial objects orbit very fast. It is rumored that it will be able to fit a painter that will project a "I'm not a station!" in space. The second battleship won't be able to do as much damage nor tank it compared to most other battles, but it gets an extra high slot in exchange for two mediums and one low. It will also require Really Really Really Advanced Weapons Upgrades. At that point it is rumored that it might be able to shoot, and some say it might even be able to break a Reaper tank. People will love it because its faster than the previous ship (however, to actually be able to move, you must be ganged with 10 other people in mwding phoons.. this is a gang ship). To address this possible excessive speed and some concerns about it, t1 web overheating will increase web range 2000%. This will also rebalance the dps of the vagabond again, and put an end to the clamors that appear on the forum from time to time. As yet another bonus (wow!), all ships will now get one third of the capacitor of the other races to make them more nos resistant. After all their weapons require no cap and nobody really tanks. Are you complaining that minmitar ships are not good at PvP!? Tempest anyone? --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
Selous Ooops Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:29:00 - [112] My guess would be Black ops battleship pve grind battleship ( they have to do something to start people doing lev 5`s ) scanning ship , possibly a destroyer ( to be used to scan , ships eploration sites etc and able to scan cloaked ships but not cov ops cloaking device II fitted ships ( must not kill the cov ops/recon role )) mining ship mini freighter ( possibly 1/4 the capacity of freighter , with slots , so it has the choice of fitting to defend suicide attacks or taking the risk and increasing its capacity )
Mrs Snowman	Posted - 2007.09.07 12:30:00 - [113] can I just say.. What an absoloutly SHOCKING interview that was! The interviewer looked like she was about to slit her wrists with bordom, I was half expecting her to ask Nathan what a spaceship was! And Jonathan just mumbled and mumbled the whole way through more interested in finishing his **** show on his laptop or something. I know english isnt his first language but thats no excuse for not speaking up and doing everyone the decency of sitting up straight, paying attention and actually looking like he gives a damn! 90% of the interview was going on about a patch that was already released! thats even if you could hear what was being said! And to think that an announcment as profound as 20 new tech2 ships being released with revelations 3 was just dribbled out as a last minute thought is utterly disgusting. I hope your ashamed of yourselfs CCP! and as for the new t2 ships.... Wooohoooo! \o/
Nicho Void Gallente Hyper-Nova	Posted - 2007.09.07 14:39:00 - [114] Quote: 20 New ships?! This is madness Next person to respond with "THIS IS SPARTA" gets a Thorax in the eye. ---------------
FawKa Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.07 14:43:00 - [115] So much happyness in this thread, its discusting 5 ships pr race will get the dev's spam'd with threads and mails how these ships arent balanced to anything. Even when 1 tier 3 BS enters the field ppl spam for months. Placing 5 at the same time (as I understand it) is a very bad move. And I would rather like focusing on certain issues which I think is still overlooked: drones, fixes are added but they actually just screw up what was finally working since last patch. Graphic still looks like something I can paint with my but in paint, no offence, I like the style of EVE. But this is 2007 with direct X10 games. Play some crysis and get back to EVE, your eyes melt.. And of course, lag.. I got no freaking knowledge how to work it out, but its simply too bad we cant have decent fleets anymore. All in all, jumping around because we get 20 ships just aint gonna work. If they are all ballanced etc.. Sure we can jump, but we all know thinks wont be working for half a year.. 5 ships pr race just like that, no thanks.
F90OEX	Posted - 2007.09.07 14:57:00 - [116] Edited by: F90OEX on 07/09/2007 14:59:33 Originally by: Hirana Yoshida A lot of speculation here :D Personally I think poor Oveur is a victim of less-than-perfect english skills. I bet when he mentioned the 20 ships he was referring to the newly skinned models and not brand new ships. 4 pages and not a peep from anyone with CCP tags does not give me much room for hope. Hmm then again he said 20 T2 NEW ships ..13m30s
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:03:00 - [117] what a horrible interview
Major Stallion Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:04:00 - [118] Originally by: Ricdic Fantastic PR. Telling the rest of the world before bothering to inform your loyal customers. lol you're surprised that they dont inform the community of anything? As if this wasn't made more evident the day they abruptly announced they were closing the market forums. They dont do community relations well at all. They feel theyve done their part by telling us "yeah we're updtating the graphics engine". ________________________________ High Sec PvP Originally by: "Wylker" CCP has finally mastered stupidity
Jason Thorn	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:06:00 - [119] 16 t2 ships for a new race + 4 mission running t2 bses? It's just an idea... not sure of it though.
Threv Echandari Caldari Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:07:00 - [120] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Then again, we could be looking at a whole new class of ships. Like the logistics, interdictor etc were T2 variants. A...umm...flack cannon ship? BAsed on the destroyer. Missile killer extraordinare Oh yeah like we need something else to make Missiles more useless in PVP...... (Just give me a T2 Drake with 7 launcher slots and a 75% increase in Missile Velocity and 50% ROF)

MrJita Alt467	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:14:00 - [121] I hope CCP dont add too much content. Other games have failed having too much content
SexxxSlave	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:15:00 - [122] Originally by: Nicho Void Quote: 20 New ships?! This is madness Next person to respond with "THIS IS SPARTA" gets a Thorax in the eye. OHHHH LOOK THE ISD WANNABE!!! Just submit a ******* application to be part of ISD already. All i see out of you is (in summary) "if i had the powers, id mod all of you" in every one of your posts. You offer nothing to the community, go away.
Gamer4liff Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:22:00 - [123] Originally by: MrJita Alt467 I hope CCP dont add too much content. Other games have failed having too much content Yeah, I know! why don't they just stop changing the game and leave it to stagnate and die!
Alz Shado Ever Flow FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:27:00 - [124] I can has T2 Machariel?
ForumPosterAlt HERRO KITTY	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:32:00 - [125] We need tech 2 battleships for the glorious balance. Because posting on the forums is serious business.
Neo Providence	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:39:00 - [126] i don't want no new ships, just make the scythe looks better. they promised that it would change the look, but never forfilled it.
Kyusoath Orillian Northern Intelligence Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.09.07 15:58:00 - [127] more ships. more lower end choice , BC variants maybe a new class between cruiser and BS. don't care about new BS's but more is better still, what i don't want is more capital super ships (dread,carrier, titan etc) we got enough for now. there should be more focus on lower end stuff, thats what will drive eve forward, in fact hiding the existence of those ships from new players (in trailers or advertising to bring new players in) means that these people don't think 'wow i wanna fly that! it looks cool' and realise it will take a very very long time to do so. it encourages disinterest.
Dr Slaughter Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.07 16:39:00 - [128] Originally by: MrJita Alt467 I hope CCP dont add too much content. Other games have failed having too much content In those other games, was it too much content that doesn't work properly? or just too much content.... being that they're planning on adding the DX10 stuff, ambulation, the faction warfare stuff and eventually planetary aspects to the game it sounds like there will be lots and lots of new content in the next couple of years.
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.09.07 16:44:00 - [129] Ow, Nathan, don't be so shy in face of Laura 2isk
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.09.07 16:47:00 - [130] New models for older ships.. Clue ppl.. get one All those new high poly models they been showing.. will be the additional ships in the 20 after the BOBS and Caremobiles Don't get your hopes up for actual new ships that haven't been mentioned. ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master

Blind Man Angel Deep Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.07 16:51:00 - [131] sweet
Taran Summers The Merovingians	Posted - 2007.09.07 16:52:00 - [132] Industrial SUPERcapital.
mortitia sith The Adamite Inheritance	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:04:00 - [133] hmm lets see 3 bs per race , t2 versions so thats 12 or the oldest 2 bs per race , 2 t2 versions per = 16 faction bs thats 4 , t2 version of em ? 4 so that would be 20 or 16
Tasuric Orka Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:11:00 - [134] I hope most are normal ships and not some t2/hac incarnation, last thing eve needs are more ships that can run circles around T1 ships with impunity.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:19:00 - [135] I'm betting on: 3x T2 BS per race 1-2x T2 BC per race (based on the new BCs) 0-1x something else I don't really care about Time to train Amarr BS V it seems
Xoria Krint The Movement	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:21:00 - [136] Originally by: Nicho Void Quote: 20 New ships?! This is madness Next person to respond with "THIS IS SPARTA" gets a Thorax in the eye. I would like to have it somewhere else then the eye if i may? THIS IS SPARTA - My Movies
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:45:00 - [137] Originally by: Xoria Krint Originally by: Nicho Void Quote: 20 New ships?! This is madness Next person to respond with "THIS IS SPARTA" gets a Thorax in the eye. I would like to have it somewhere else then the eye if i may? THIS IS SPARTA ahem...... THIISIISISSSSSSS ISIISSSSSSSSZZZZZ SSSSHHHHHHHPPPPPPPPAAAAAHHHHRTAAAAAAHHH! ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." Originally by: Royaldo complete win by Cornucopian!
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:46:00 - [138] Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 07/09/2007 06:10:25 Originally by: Templer Relleg Edited by: Templer Relleg on 07/09/2007 06:04:41 This interview was posted today it seems: http://mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setView/videos/gameID/14/videoId/1118 Oveur stated that there will be.. Yes, dont fall off your chair.. 20 NEW T2 Ships?(EDIT: He said about 20) This is madness. Im looking forward to this. This is due november. New Mission and mission types aswell. Trinity 2. This is not new. But he said that they spent 50 man years on remodelling all ships. Revelation III will be the best I think of all the Revelation parts I think... And yes, 20 new ships would even wet chuck norris's pants!!! And then... ambulation ofcource... Its great to be a EVE player these days! Oh, here's the LINKY for the link-o-holics! If Chuck Norris ever wet his pants, they'd implode from all the liquid own seeping into them.
Oedus Caro Caldari Cross Roads	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:46:00 - [139] CCP, I love you, and yet I hate you. How the hell will I be able to focus on my studies when November comes a round, now that Revelations 3 has become even more exciting?
V0idz Herrscher der Zeit	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:48:00 - [140] Edited by: V0idz on 07/09/2007 17:48:34 20 / 4 Races - 5 each.. some T2 BS and ... we'll see _____________________________________ EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak.

Jinmie	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:50:00 - [141] Originally by: Firane 4x T2 Recon Frigs Surely we have that already? Covert Ops Frigates.
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:51:00 - [142] Originally by: Cornucopian Originally by: Xoria Krint Originally by: Nicho Void Quote: 20 New ships?! This is madness Next person to respond with "THIS IS SPARTA" gets a Thorax in the eye. I would like to have it somewhere else then the eye if i may? THIS IS SPARTA ahem...... THIISIISISSSSSSS ISIISSSSSSSSZZZZZ SSSSHHHHHHHPPPPPPPPAAAAAHHHHRTAAAAAAHHH! ****t.. there is no H in SPARTA ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master
Pociomundo Gallente World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.09.07 17:52:00 - [143] Originally by: Cornucopian Originally by: Topaz Skydiver Edited by: Topaz Skydiver on 07/09/2007 08:30:18 Something to chew on for the vets: Tech-2 dread, carrier, mom and titan. Prerequisite racial dread, carrier, titan V and capital ships V at least. That's 16. 4 missing, maybe something for the nubs. Tech-2 rookie ships. or perhaps a T2 Titan!! where you can bolt two racial friendly titans together to form a planetsized monstrosity!!!!!!!! An erebus locking onto a minmatar titan for ultimate pwnage. it has like 30 guns and different seats for multiple pilots, a special drone interface that can launch 5 Dreads as DRONES. or 10 BSes!!! ZOMG! Like Borg Fusion Cubes? 4 Titan's ftw. One of each race together forms.... Megazord?
Sylthi Minmatar Coreward Pan-Galactic	Posted - 2007.09.07 18:11:00 - [144] I honestly don't understand what everyone is so excited about. This is just par for the course CCP bull-pucky. This is the same as it always has been: CCP promises the world, and the players, all of these wonderful things and then never fully (if at all) delivers. And, even on the rare occasions that they do live up to their own hype, its never on time. 20 (completely) new T2 ships by November??? Yeah, right. Like CCP has EVER moved that fast on a project. I'll believe it when I see it, and happily admit that I was wrong for once about CCP's poor (to dismal) project execution record. Am I happy to hear the promises that have been made? Sure I am. But, you have to take ALL of CCP's promises with a grain of salt. I'd like to have new ships to fly and new missions to run just like everybody else. Along with that hope, however, comes the reality that we might have to wait for them as long as we have had to for the new Trinity engine release. After all, everyone should recall that Trinity 2, when it was ORIGINALLY announced, was slated for release in August of LAST year. 13 months later, and still no new engine. I mean, I know delays happenà.. but over a YEAR?? I know, I know, CCP doesn't like me reminding people of that little fact. There we go. My 2 cents trying to get all of the people to calm down and not get their hopes up; the higher the hopes go, the further they come crashing down when CCP disappoints. Just the voice of experience from my 4 year love affair with Eve, and my 4 year hate affair with CCP trying so desperately hard to ruin what they created. The mods are now free to "censor" my "negative" comments.... * *
Irob Urore Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2007.09.07 18:15:00 - [145] what they didnt mention is that by ships they meant 20 new style of pod, one looks eerily like a toaster (leaked photos in google - images - toaster) You will also have to train a new pod skill that will require over a months worth of sp. Sorry for the heartbreak kids.
Major Stallion Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.09.07 18:54:00 - [146] Originally by: Irob Urore what they didnt mention is that by ships they meant 20 new style of pod, one looks eerily like a toaster (leaked photos in google - images - toaster) I found it! The new Carebear POD! ________________________________ High Sec PvP Originally by: "Wylker" CCP has finally mastered stupidity
Aduna Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.07 19:18:00 - [147] Edited by: Aduna on 07/09/2007 19:21:01 Originally by: Templer Relleg Edited by: Templer Relleg on 07/09/2007 06:09:05 Edited by: Templer Relleg on 07/09/2007 06:04:41 This is madness. Im looking forward to this. madness? THIS. IS. EVE!!! /emote kicks Templer in the chest Originally by: James 315 Goon logistics may have the most efficient manner of griefing BoB that there is:every Goon tower in a BoB system is a punch in BoB's stomach and a middle finger to Dianabolic's crew
Possessed Clown Amarr Spiced Wine Syndicate	Posted - 2007.09.07 19:25:00 - [148] I am guessing another T2 destroyer and probably two t2 Battleships. For the other ones its any ones guess... I just hope they fix some of the current broken T2 ships, like the Ishtar....
TZeer BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.09.07 19:39:00 - [149] Originally by: Sylthi Edited by: Sylthi on 07/09/2007 18:35:33 I honestly don't understand what everyone is so excited about. This is just par for the course CCP bull-pucky. This is the same as it always has been: CCP promises the world, and the players, all of these wonderful things and then never fully (if at all) delivers. And, even on the rare occasions that they do live up to their own hype, its never on time. 20 (completely) new T2 ships by November??? Yeah, right. Like CCP has EVER moved that fast on a project. I'll believe it when I see it, and happily admit that I was wrong for once about CCP's poor (to dismal) project execution record. Am I happy to hear the promises that have been made? Sure I am. But, you have to take ALL of CCP's promises with a grain of salt. I'd like to have new ships to fly and new missions to run just like everybody else. Along with that hope, however, comes the reality that we might have to wait for them as long as we have had to for the new Trinity engine release. After all, everyone should recall that Trinity 2, when it was ORIGINALLY announced, was slated for release in August of LAST year. 13 months later, and still no new engine. I mean, I know delays happenà.. but over a YEAR?? I know, I know, CCP doesn't like me reminding people of that little fact. There we go. My 2 cents trying to get all of the people to calm down and not get their hopes up; the higher the hopes go, the further they come crashing down when CCP disappoints. Just the voice of experience from my 4 year love affair with Eve, and my 4 year hate affair with CCP trying so desperately hard to ruin what they created. The mods are now free to "censor" my "negative" comments.... P.S. I just read somewhere earlier in the thread that someone mentioned this, and I thought I would second the opinion. Here goes: Devs and CCP please: NO MORE F'ING CAPITAL SHIPS!!! Enough already with the ships that take years to train, months to finance/build, and minutes to loose. How about some love to the masses that actually pay your bills (salaries, in the form of the bulk of your monthly fees) and not just to the top 1/2% of the uber players (BoB) that snuggle with you every night? Thank you for your kind attention to this detail. T2 BS where actually on the drawingboard or something before the Tier 3 BS got released. But they took it off cause they felt the ships wherent ready.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.09.07 19:44:00 - [150] Ships are nice....but I want my forum ignore function! Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person

Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.09.07 19:59:00 - [151] Originally by: Aduna Edited by: Aduna on 07/09/2007 19:21:01 Originally by: Templer Relleg Edited by: Templer Relleg on 07/09/2007 06:09:05 Edited by: Templer Relleg on 07/09/2007 06:04:41 This is madness. Im looking forward to this. madness? THIS. IS. EVE!!! /emote kicks Templer in the chest Die in a fire for using an over-referenced movie quote.
Erim Solfara Amarr House of Solfara	Posted - 2007.09.07 20:00:00 - [152] Originally by: Atreus Danerun With 5 New T2 ships per race, this would mean that Invention by itself will not be able to keep up with demand. So, where does that leave the player-base as far as the BPOs of those ships go? Will we have another round of the "lottery" that was supposedly over? How will the BPOs be distributed? Will the Inventors get a lucky chance to create a BPO through the invention process? Invention will work as always, and, as always, supply at first will be very limited, and prices astronomical, just like it normally goes A new tool in the fight for balance?
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.09.07 20:00:00 - [153] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Aduna Edited by: Aduna on 07/09/2007 19:21:01 Originally by: Templer Relleg Edited by: Templer Relleg on 07/09/2007 06:09:05 Edited by: Templer Relleg on 07/09/2007 06:04:41 This is madness. Im looking forward to this. madness? THIS. IS. EVE!!! /emote kicks Templer in the chest Die in a fire for using an over-referenced movie quote. The OP should have known better for using "This is Madness!" anywhere on the internet. ------------ Whiners - Unite! \| Posting and You Tarminic - Forum Warfare Specialist.
Jarek Neltharek Caldari Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2007.09.07 20:08:00 - [154] wets pants. changes pants. wets pants again This is going to be a sweet piece of kit. Looking forward to it! -------------------------------------------------- You fly... You die. Life is a B**ch!
Curaiss	Posted - 2007.09.07 20:18:00 - [155] Edited by: Curaiss on 07/09/2007 20:20:01 Originally by: Templer Relleg This is madness. Madness? THIS. IS. SPARTAAAAAAAAA! edit: someone beat me to it double edit: fist post \o/
Nicho Void Gallente Hyper-Nova	Posted - 2007.09.07 20:21:00 - [156] Originally by: SexxxSlave Originally by: Nicho Void Quote: 20 New ships?! This is madness Next person to respond with "THIS IS SPARTA" gets a Thorax in the eye. OHHHH LOOK THE ISD WANNABE!!! Just submit a ***** application to be part of ISD already. All i see out of you is (in summary) "if i had the powers, id mod all of you" in every one of your posts. You offer nothing to the community, go away. Says the faceless alt. Post with your ***** main if you're going to try and smack like a big boy. On a different note: this thread totally delivers. ---------------
Ricky1989 Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.07 20:24:00 - [157] I'm taking a guess that there will be T2 destroyers with specialisation in Salvaging. ---- The-Cornish-****er snip* If you wish to discuss moderation please email [email protected] - hutch . Proud Member of CURSE ALLIANCE!
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion	Posted - 2007.09.07 20:26:00 - [158] Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Originally by: Amarria Black 20 new T2 ships = 5 new ships per race. So... T2 destroyers? More T2 cruisers? T2 battleships? Super Interdictors :) Can stop motherships from doing anything They might actually do that. We know of at least 2 T2 Battleships per race (that's 8 ships right there), so that's still 12 ships left and the destroyer/battlecruiser T2 options are fairly limited at the moment.
ToxicFire Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.09.07 21:31:00 - [159] Edited by: ToxicFire on 07/09/2007 21:33:45 from whats been stated already gonna guess 2 new t2 battleships per race the t2 stealth bs and the t2 mission runner bs, then we also know there developing a gas mining barge so that will probably have a t2 partner thats 10 ships then padding with the remaining ships that don't have t2 counterparts currently Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
Futher Bezluden Minmatar ORIGIN SYSTEMS Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 21:37:00 - [160] Screw the new content. Balance what you have in the game already before throwing new stuff into the game. Get the servers sorted out so 200v200's aren't freakin EvE Slideshow with 10 minute delays. If you notice, OMFG, node XXX is burning hot, then divert resources. If you notice it's been hot for 2 weeks, then get more server resources there. After you get what is ingame presently balanced out and buff the resource management, then think about new toys otherwise it's just the same lagfest. THUKKER -Be Paranoid

ToxicFire Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.09.07 21:40:00 - [161] Originally by: Futher Bezluden Screw the new content. Balance what you have in the game already before throwing new stuff into the game. Get the servers sorted out so 200v200's aren't freakin EvE Slideshow with 10 minute delays. If you notice, OMFG, node XXX is burning hot, then divert resources. If you notice it's been hot for 2 weeks, then get more server resources there. After you get what is ingame presently balanced out and buff the resource management, then think about new toys otherwise it's just the same lagfest. you know thats actually already been done, we're talking top of the line spec custom built stuff and it still struggles with a dedicate cpu to high load systems, the next step is to spread the load over multiple cores, that is coming up as stated in devblogs Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
winXPsucks	Posted - 2007.09.07 22:03:00 - [162] Maddness? this is Sparta!!!!
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 22:08:00 - [163] sigh actuley bothered reg'ing with the site to download the vid since it streams for about 2 seconds with about a year of buffering... downloading at an absoluteley increadable 11kb/s Someone just upload the damn thing to eve files allready - (combat) Patch belonging to CCP hits your drones, wrecking their liberty and freedom.
Rhaegor Stormborn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.09.07 22:19:00 - [164] I'd like a Minmatar command ship based on the Hurricane hull style. Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
Fon Revedhort Aeria Gloris Inc United Legion	Posted - 2007.09.07 22:48:00 - [165] I hope I'll get a tech3 blue Prophecy of Doom ---
Moraguth Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.09.07 23:39:00 - [166] Originally by: TZeer Originally by: Sylthi Edited by: Sylthi on 07/09/2007 18:35:33 ...crying... T2 BS where actually on the drawingboard or something before the Tier 3 BS got released. But they took it off cause they felt the ships wherent ready. True, but don't forget, a week or so ago, they announced in another (but not to us unfortunately) website, that they were planning on releasing a cov ops BS and a missioning BS, both Tech 2. good game
Devoras2 Amarr KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.07 23:45:00 - [167] You know what; feck the damn new 20 ships and make the server more smoth running where i can fight larger battles without lag! Dev It's great being Amarr, aint it?
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.07 23:52:00 - [168] 4x Black Ops Battleships 4x Carebear Battleships 4x Salvage / Looting ships 4x Hacking / Archeology ships 4x NPC Ships The Beginning <-- crap quality, need to redo, sorry :(
Zephlin Abath Minmatar Core Element	Posted - 2007.09.08 00:08:00 - [169] Madness? Naw, more toys to play with. I like toys, including shiney new ones, add's more depth to life in EVE and more options on what to fly in... As long as they are not 20 diffrent versions all sporting the rifter skin, I'm happy
Al Thorr Caldari The Wheel	Posted - 2007.09.08 00:13:00 - [170] As people have said ... 20 new ships to be produced...... who will build them.... are there going to be bpos or just invented bpcs? I personaly can here the whines already starting from those people who cashed in on their rps ... should the lottery be introduced again . Al Thorr "You cant polish a turd" - The new rendered font is living proof.

Ur235 Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.09.08 00:17:00 - [171] super capital dreadnaughts :D woot
Mikal Drey Angels and Demons	Posted - 2007.09.08 00:52:00 - [172] Vigil >> Cheetah Breacher >> Hound Slasher >> Claw/Stilletto Rifter >> Wolf/Shaguar Probe >>>>>>>>>> (1) TII Deepspace Salvager Burst >>>>>>>>>> (2) TII Hacking/Arch Thrasher >> Sabre Stabber >> Vaga Rupture >> Muninn Bellicose >> Rapier/Huginn Scythe >> Scimitar Cyclone >> Claymore/Sleipnir Hurricane >>>>>>> (3) Uber Assault HABC Tempy Phoon >>>>>>> (4) TII Battleship Mael Mammoth >> Mastodon Wreathe >> Prowler Hoarder >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (5) Mini Freighter Thats my 5 new ships for Minmatar.
CagedRage BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.09.08 01:01:00 - [173] So much for there being no niches for new ships... »\(O_¦)/» I always liked new stuff, but I hope it doesn't cause more problems to add to the ever so high pile. We'll see anyways... Good luck CCP. ps. that interview had such bad sound and location. How long will PvPers continue to play EVE Online?
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.08 01:02:00 - [174] Originally by: Illyria Ambri Originally by: Cornucopian Originally by: Xoria Krint Originally by: Nicho Void Quote: 20 New ships?! This is madness Next person to respond with "THIS IS SPARTA" gets a Thorax in the eye. I would like to have it somewhere else then the eye if i may? THIS IS SPARTA ahem...... THIISIISISSSSSSS ISIISSSSSSSSZZZZZ SSSSHHHHHHHPPPPPPPPAAAAAHHHHRTAAAAAAHHH! ****t.. there is no H in SPARTA dude, dont you think I know that? it was meant to add 'spittle' to the yell.... sparta for eloquent people. SSSSSHHHHPAPPAPAAAAARTAAAA for a frothing at the mouth madman who wants dev response on this.... this.... MADNESS! ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." Originally by: Royaldo complete win by Cornucopian!
Ominus Decre The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.08 01:15:00 - [175] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat T2 Battleships in a cov-ops role has already been mentioned by CCP. I don't really see what role another t2 destroyer would fill. Clueless? :P I WANT A REAL T2 DESTROYER!! Perversion:
Durethia Momentum. The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.09.08 01:20:00 - [176] OK, I don't think anyone has done it yet..... but I'll do it! "Madness? THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!"
Audri Fisher Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.08 01:24:00 - [177] Originally by: Haffrage I PREDICT AND HAVE BEEN PREDICTING FOR MONTHS THE FOLLOWING (also numbers) 4x T2 Ewar frigates (Griffin, 4x T2 tier 2 battlecruisers 1x Proper astrometrics frigate for amarr (Can't ALL be T2 ships ) 4x tier 2 destroyers, heavier with more fittings (Shwing!) 4x T2 tier 2 destroyers based on tank, wannabe light hacs = 17 I think I'm missing one, or two... Hm. I'd like to see tier 3 transports actually. the tech II destroyers (wanna-be hacs) gives me a hard on.
Selene Le'Cotiere Amarr I-Omniscient-I	Posted - 2007.09.08 03:31:00 - [178] So, when will we get anything concrete on these new ships? _________ "You will be a drone in the hive of an insane Queen, existing solely to provide the ship with needs, links in a chain too complicated for you to understand." - Story: Hands of a Killer
Rick Thwaites Pringles Inc. YouWhat	Posted - 2007.09.08 03:47:00 - [179] There is a video of the T2 BSes on YouTube. I am going to say that the Black Ops ship for the Caldari will be a scorpion hull - with that it will be like the Falcon or Rook, with better jamming. Sooooo excited!! --
Hyuuga Veralis Pator Tech School	Posted - 2007.09.08 04:27:00 - [180] It's a trick. They're actually going to unnerf AFs by giving them their 4th bonus, as they are the only T2 ship to have only 3 bonuses. That'll take up 8 of the 20 ships right there. -------------- Fulfilling 0.0 Ammo needs since 2 days after being made.

Empire marketslave	Posted - 2007.09.08 09:03:00 - [181] i wish that they would give us t2 ships that we want too many ships are being used for unintended roles because there are no ships to fit that role like carriers being used as haulers i predict 8 bs 4 tier 2 destroyers 4 jump freighters 1 missing amarr frig 3 non racial ships for something i cant think of right now
Lord Zoran Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.09.08 09:50:00 - [182] Originally by: Thuul'Khalat Nah.. rookies will from now on get T2 Noobships omg t2 ibis of DOOM --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!!
Soros 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.09.08 10:04:00 - [183] t2 myrmidon ..... this forum doesn't have the icon I require for this thought
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.08 10:12:00 - [184] Originally by: Hyuuga Veralis They're actually going to unnerf AFs by giving them their 4th bonus, as they are the only T2 ship to have only 3 bonuses. This is actually not true! The Falcon also has only 3 bonuses in effect.
Zaphroid Eulthran Minmatar Imperial Visions	Posted - 2007.09.08 11:52:00 - [185] 20 new T2 ships, 5 per race 1x large transport/mini freighter per race (total 4) 1x carrier size jump freighter per race (total 8) 2x T2 BS per race (total 16) 1x salvage destroyer per race (total 20) I can dream Hi-Sec Industry NEEDS Mini Freighters You know those small corps that actually build stuff.
hhdfhfghfg	Posted - 2007.09.08 13:30:00 - [186] Originally by: 000Hunter000 Originally by: fugimi what i'd like to know is what will the skill requirments for T2 BS's be ? can u guess ? Well for the covert ops BS racial BS L5 for sure (which i have ) but for the rest... mebbe cloaking L5 (which would suck as thats just more timesink) For the rest, mebbe a true T2 destroyer which has the tank to match the firepower (somehow it should suck against cruisers and above but should excel at wtfpwning T2 friggies ) give them high resists instead of lots of hps. the increased firepower over frigs for cruisers will definitely still get through the resist while the frigs will falter.
Haerana The Republican Guard The Sundering	Posted - 2007.09.08 14:30:00 - [187] i am the only person thinking about this logically. 20 new ships. thats 5 per race. K then. THe new Recon/missioning BS theres 3 BS per race atm. so i figure thats 1 mission running bs for each version. SO thats 12 of the new ships gone. 8left 2 per race... is it me or do most stuff like HACs and Recons all have 2 ships per class. So thats gonna be 2 recon BS with slightly differeing roles. thats the other 8 there ya go 20new ships. 2new recon BS per race and 3 new mission running BS per race.... thats just working on the info that i know of. I could be totally wrong but nobody else thought of this yet? (cba to read through all 7 pages so somebody may have mentioned this already)
Phrixus Zephyr D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.08 14:51:00 - [188] I'm not sure how they will do T2 destroyers. The Sabre is already a T2 destroyer, the other 3 simply arn't. Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD'
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.09.08 16:38:00 - [189] madness? THIS IS EVE! ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP need...more room...
Lowbridge	Posted - 2007.09.08 16:43:00 - [190] OK in the Global Market you are apart of "Real" companies have a department called "PR" (Public Relations)and that department would not let a piece of crap like this get out or in the first place even happen. Are you kinding me .. come on who was the tool who kicked the camera at the begining and then let someone walk behind the interview location. Also it is called a "Sound Check". Really just poor form. PS. 20 more ships

Ozmodan Minmatar Knights Covenant	Posted - 2007.09.08 17:16:00 - [191] You have to remember that adding more t2 ships at the high end, BC's and BS's just further expand the gap between new players and older ones. You make that gap too large and new players are not going to wait around the time it they need to achieve skills to be competitive. While it is understandable that many older players want something new, you have to be aware that this game relies on constant new blood to replace those that leave. Normal retention is only about 6 months now, that is hardly enough time to get a competitive pvp setup now. Learners permit still current
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.08 18:01:00 - [192] Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 08/09/2007 18:01:20 Thread statistics: 198 posts 9x '300' references 3x complaints about '300' references 4x posts about complaints about '300' references 1 post about posts about posts about '300' references. That's still a signal-to-noise ratio of over 9 to 1. Keep the meme going! My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
Gretek Lal Minmatar Fractal Holdings Ltd.	Posted - 2007.09.08 18:04:00 - [193] Originally by: Ozmodan You have to remember that adding more t2 ships at the high end, BC's and BS's just further expand the gap between new players and older ones.... ...Normal retention is only about 6 months now, that is hardly enough time to get a competitive pvp setup now. And of course, many of us (including older players like me) have no interest at all in PvP. So, I greet this news with a big yawn. What about mining? What about production? What about us Eve citizens who live in Empire and do not want to move to 0.0 and shoot at other players? Instead of introducing more T2 ships for the pvp crowd, how about making T1 ships more useful, especially frigates? I don't fly T2 ships and see no point in training for them since I live in Empire. Eve is moving closer and closer toward becoming just another mindless FPS. I sometimes wonder why I keep playing.
Gamer4liff Caldari Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY	Posted - 2007.09.08 18:07:00 - [194] Good god, you're all horrible. How many times has that god-awful "this is Sparta" meme been posted? Can the moderators please do something about this, it's ruining my forum experience.
Speed Devil Caldari Mean Machines	Posted - 2007.09.08 18:56:00 - [195] i think there will be a new class of ships just inbetween battleship and dreadnaught
Achuramale	Posted - 2007.09.08 18:56:00 - [196] Originally by: Gamer4liff Good god, you're all horrible. How many times has that god-awful "this is Sparta" meme been posted? Can the moderators please do something about this, it's ruining my forum experience. THHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSS IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 Sorry.
das licht Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.08 19:55:00 - [197] I hope meh Khanid Navy Caracal comes with the next bundle, incl. some modules I hardly need! kthnxby
Giatshi	Posted - 2007.09.08 23:28:00 - [198] T2 stealth bombers...twice as useless at half the cost!!...batteries not included
Amantus Gallente Murientor Tribe	Posted - 2007.09.09 00:05:00 - [199] If there's a T2 domi which has T2 resists and an even better tank then I'm going to have to to alot of pants washing. ------------
Asimov Andies Gallente Red Blade Industries Soldiers of the Forgotten Abyss	Posted - 2007.09.09 00:28:00 - [200] Originally by: Gamer4liff Good god, you're all horrible. How many times has that god-awful "this is Sparta" meme been posted? Can the moderators please do something about this, it's ruining my forum experience. MADNESS... THIS IS ME KILLING A MOVIE REFERENCE!!!! High and Low Sec Freight Service

Jack Jombardo	Posted - 2007.09.09 00:53:00 - [201] I want a real T2 Arbitrator :) 8 low slots (armor tank) 4 med slots 4 high slots ability to use 10 low/med drones at once where bonis are like this - +10% drone dammage/hp peer Carier level (maybe mining drone Yield) - +1 drone can be active peer (insert shiptype) level - +5km drone range/speed peer (insert shiptype) level don't know about the slots. maybe 6 low /6 med /4 high. not to much high slots (it's a small carier then) but a good amount of low and propper med slots. and a Cruiser where new players can suport there Corporations without dieing instantly even at level 4++ missions or PvP. it's a dam long way until you can fly (not only buy, FLY) something like a Interceptor or better to survive properly :(. don't get me wrong, it should not be a killer or soloer ship, just something where you don't instant-pop after targeted while you suport your team. yes, there is a Suport-Ship but that needs you to train from 40 to 60 days just to bring it out of a station without any defens/suport/navigation skills.
Excesse Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.09.09 02:19:00 - [202] Most requested and least time-consuming for CCP would be three T2 BS (one per tier) for each faction, plus two variants of the tier 2 BCs like we've already seen with the tier 1's. So... black ops bs, carebear bs, ??????? bs, and what they'll do with the tier 2 battlecruisers I don't even want to speculate - beyond requesting a vagacane.
Agetec Core	Posted - 2007.09.09 03:49:00 - [203] Full gank ftw! Lets see some 8/0/3 T2 BCs WOO!
Stakhanov Katana's Edge	Posted - 2007.09.09 04:39:00 - [204] Originally by: Rick Thwaites There is a video of the T2 BSes on YouTube. I am going to say that the Black Ops ship for the Caldari will be a scorpion hull - with that it will be like the Falcon or Rook, with better jamming. They better not make the T2 domi the black ops BS and the T2 mega the carebear one Originally by: Excesse ...what they'll do with the tier 2 battlecruisers I don't even want to speculate - beyond requesting a vagacane. That reminds me of an idea I had... Raider BCs Yummy T2 nanocane... Originally by: Cipher7 If you manage to get baited, what's your skill, being a good victim?
Attak Trioptimum FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.09 06:05:00 - [205] Edited by: Attak on 09/09/2007 06:13:18 I think adding 20 new ships is a stupid idea. We've got plenty of ships as it is. Combat mechanics could use some looking at before we start throwing more content into the mix. That being said, content is a good way to attract subscribers, so I'll guess: Jump drive equipped hauler x 4 T2 BS, bonus to damage vs. station services? x 8 T2 frig/destroyer for tracking down cloakers x 4 T2/tier2 dread??? x4 o and btw this is sparta
Rhaegor Stormborn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.09.09 06:29:00 - [206] I could care less about new stuff at this point in time, actually I don't want anymore new stuff. I want the stuff we have all balanaced and refined, and I would like bug fixes, less lag, and a modern user interface. Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread
Contralto Gallente Department Of Health and Social Security	Posted - 2007.09.09 06:47:00 - [207] Anyone stopped to think where all these T2 BS are going to come from? No more T2 BPO's so they will all require invention and with a 20% succsess rate on ships, and the requirements ie. max run T1 BS Bpc, perhaps 50 Datacores at current price of around 50 Mill, and decryptors costing 45 mill, all of which is lost during the process and times 5, taking in to account the failure rate. Add the huge demand that there will be, these ships are goimg to cost a billion each and thats if you can find one. Also the very high skill requirements to invent them will reduce the supply. Starship datacores are 70k isk apiece atm, so they will rise in price by a factor of 10 and mech eng cores, currently at 1.3 mill each will be in short supply. A knock on effect will be that all T2 ships will rise significantly in price due to material shortages and all the inventors turning their attention to the 20 new ships.
prathe Minmatar Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.09.09 07:31:00 - [208] Edited by: prathe on 09/09/2007 07:33:29 Originally by: Soros t2 myrmidon ..... this forum doesn't have the icon I require for this thought my thoughts exactly but wrong ship think about it ....tech 2 hurricane .... OMFG! yes please !!!! wait let me specify more here this is what i want for this ship copy the munnin bonuses exactly .... colors like the sabre ..... 300 more PG.... 7 turrets....
Gealbhan Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.09 09:32:00 - [209] The 20 new ships are Jovian & will take a few extra lvl V skills to fly them... hey, I can dream "Concentrate all your fire on one target, when it is destroyed, move on to the next. That is how you secure victory". - Tactica Imperium.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.09 11:08:00 - [210] Originally by: Gealbhan The 20 new ships are Jovian & will take a few extra lvl V skills to fly them... hey, I can dream signs You believe you can fly? You believe you can touch the sky? Flying Jovians every day, hope CCP don't take it away....you believe you can flyyyyy My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.

Aero089 Exiled.	Posted - 2007.09.09 11:25:00 - [211] Madness?! This is... No wait, let's not do that. Has anyone considered that it may very well be 20 NPC ships? Faction carriers perhaps, or what about tier 2 battlecruiser equivalents? As most pirate factions are based on the players' scala of ships. (Exiled. CEO Exiled. is recruiting!
Sora Mura	Posted - 2007.09.09 11:51:00 - [212] Originally by: prathe Edited by: prathe on 09/09/2007 07:33:29 Originally by: Soros t2 myrmidon ..... this forum doesn't have the icon I require for this thought my thoughts exactly but wrong ship think about it ....tech 2 hurricane .... OMFG! yes please !!!! wait let me specify more here this is what i want for this ship copy the munnin bonuses exactly .... colors like the sabre ..... 300 more PG.... 7 turrets.... F*ck that, give it 10%bonus to falloff, a speed bonus and an extra mid/turret
Haffrage Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.09 11:59:00 - [213] Originally by: Sora Mura Originally by: prathe Edited by: prathe on 09/09/2007 07:33:29 Originally by: Soros t2 myrmidon ..... this forum doesn't have the icon I require for this thought my thoughts exactly but wrong ship think about it ....tech 2 hurricane .... OMFG! yes please !!!! wait let me specify more here this is what i want for this ship copy the munnin bonuses exactly .... colors like the sabre ..... 300 more PG.... 7 turrets.... F*ck that, give it 10%bonus to falloff, a speed bonus and an extra mid/turret this T2 Tier 2 Battlecruisers \| Eve GUI Tweaks
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.10 07:43:00 - [214] Originally by: Contralto Anyone stopped to think where all these T2 BS are going to come from? No more T2 BPO's so they will all require invention and with a 20% succsess rate on ships, and the requirements ie. max run T1 BS Bpc, perhaps 50 Datacores at current price of around 50 Mill, and decryptors costing 45 mill, all of which is lost during the process and times 5, taking in to account the failure rate. Add the huge demand that there will be, these ships are goimg to cost a billion each and thats if you can find one. Also the very high skill requirements to invent them will reduce the supply. Starship datacores are 70k isk apiece atm, so they will rise in price by a factor of 10 and mech eng cores, currently at 1.3 mill each will be in short supply. A knock on effect will be that all T2 ships will rise significantly in price due to material shortages and all the inventors turning their attention to the 20 new ships. I think you are very optimistic. Basic construction cost would be at least 500 millions in materials, multiply for invented BPC inefficiency and you go to 1 billion in construction cost alone. 64 Me and 64 Starship engineering datacores are around 100 millions, 20 millions for the best decryptor, so the cost would be 120 millions for every attemept, with at best a 25% success rate and a 4 ships BPC. So basic construction cost will be 1,12 billions without increases for the current datacores and decryptors. add a reasonable return for the builder/inventor and you go at a minimum price of 1,5 billions. But almost certainly the prices for datacores and decriptors will increase, so my minimum prediction is for 2 billions as the final price, and around 4-5 billios for the first ships produced.
Kegger McManus Minmatar Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.12 18:27:00 - [215] I just want skill reqs. to be posted so I can start training :D
Eventy One	Posted - 2007.09.12 18:43:00 - [216] Originally by: Gealbhan The 20 new ships are Jovian & will take a few extra lvl V skills to fly them... hey, I can dream They are not going to be Jovian ... haven't you heard? The Jove left for good. ... ah .. you shouldn't have suggested that. Now I'm going to dream ... ... goes off looking for those elusive Jovian agents ...
343conspiracy43345	Posted - 2007.09.18 12:04:00 - [217] This is Sparta!
Cornucopian Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.18 12:51:00 - [218] THS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." Originally by: Royaldo complete win by Cornucopian!
Acidictadpole Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.09.18 13:35:00 - [219] Originally by: Ricdic Fantastic PR. Telling the rest of the world before bothering to inform your loyal customers. Right because CCPs customers don't have the ability to hear about this themselves.. Stop blaming CCP's PR because you were too lazy to find this before the 'rest of the world'.
El'essar Viocragh Minmatar FSK23	Posted - 2007.09.18 14:59:00 - [220] Originally by: Venkul Mul 64 Me and 64 Starship engineering datacores are around 100 millions, 20 millions for the best decryptor, so the cost would be 120 millions for every attemept, with at best a 25% success rate and a 4 ships BPC. Why 64? Frigates 2, Destroyers 4, Cruiser 8, Battlecruisers 16. That indicates Battleships 32, Capitals 64. Was that anywhere mentioned that that line is not continued and we need indeed 64 cores? -- [17:47] <Mephysto> its dead, jim

Hilabana Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.09.18 15:11:00 - [221] Originally by: Templer Relleg Edited by: Templer Relleg on 07/09/2007 06:09:05 Edited by: Templer Relleg on 07/09/2007 06:04:41 This interview was posted today it seems: http://mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setView/videos/gameID/14/videoId/1118 Oveur stated that there will be.. Yes, dont fall off your chair.. 20 NEW T2 Ships?(EDIT: He said about 20. Go to 13:30, he states that there) This is madness. Im looking forward to this. This is due november. New Mission and mission types aswell. Trinity 2. This is not new. But he said that they spent 50 man years on remodelling all ships. Them ships may be more for the 0.0 players then High sec players and now do to the Magic Pill in 0.0 it gives them a new way of stacking. The drugs they can buy with the ISK they making selling GTC for ISK ingame
Vincent S	Posted - 2007.09.18 15:25:00 - [222] What the christ are you people whining about? More ships = more fun. Don't fly them if you don't want to, let the rest of us enjoy them.
34534bobalt3244	Posted - 2007.09.19 15:03:00 - [223] More ships is good. I just hope they stop here for another few years. Too many new ships is worse than no new ships.


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