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Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
384
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Posted - 2012.01.18 10:34:00 -
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Mangua Desnart wrote:Thorn Galen wrote:Perhaps some research into it before jumping-in should have been done ?
o/
Most definitely, and that is the point of my warning in this thread, look before you leap! http://wiki.pleaseignore.com/images/2/23/Nynjato%27s_Scamming_Lesson.ogg
^ you might find this interesting to listening to. It goes into some depth to explain why people like you fall for such scams.
also note that https://goonfleet.com/ is the "real" GSF website which actually warns you of recruitment scams https://auth.goonfleet.com/newbies/
while http://goonfleet.net/ and http://goonauth.com/ are private sites that only exist for recruitment and protection fee scams. I guess that for a low fee GSF members can buy access to these fake sites (that's the way things were done in TEST). |

Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra Gallente Federation
215
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Posted - 2012.01.18 10:34:00 -
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While someone else probably already stated it earlier in the thread (TL, DR);
Do not apply to a corp that asks you for ISK or assets. Sums do not matter. In the vast majority of cases such a corp only wants your ISK and/or assets and you never get in (or you are quickly booted after you give away your stuff).
In somewhat related shocking front-page news, Goons scam.
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VaMei
Meafi Corp
84
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Posted - 2012.01.18 10:38:00 -
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Google "Join GoonWaffe" and this will likely be your top hit https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe
Quote: Joining GoonWaffe: If you gave isk to join GoonWaffe then you were scammed and you're **** out of luck.
To join GoonWaffe, follow the directions below.
Requirements & Information GoonWaffe is NOT a publicly recruiting corporation. We are all members of the Something Awful forums, or well-known friends of someone who is a member. To join GoonWaffe you MUST either be a member of the Something Awful forums and have been an active member for at least 3 months, or you must have a sponsor who is a GoonWaffe member of good standing who is willing to vouch for you, meets the above requirement, and has been a member of GoonWaffe for a month. If you do not meet the above requirements then you can not join.
They don't hide the fact that they're going to scam the **** out of anyone that doesn't take a minute to look before they leap. |

Lord Lewtz
AQUILA INC 0ccupational Hazzard
0
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Posted - 2012.01.18 10:40:00 -
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This thread is full of Win. |

Valei Khurelem
174
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Posted - 2012.01.18 10:52:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:People are ********.
That is all.
This kind of thing is why I just have no sympathy for the game or it's player base anymore, it's usually the case in communities that there's a small group of douchebags that go around causing trouble for everyone but in this case it seems to be the other way round where this game is quite blatantly ruled by douchebags and it's showing even in CCP's design decisions.
OP, no decent corporation will ever demand money for joining since it costs nothing to bring people in, they may tax you after joining but that's about it, next time, go with your gut instead of listening to a scammer trying to reason with you. |

J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
84
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Posted - 2012.01.18 11:54:00 -
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You mention alarm bells 4 times in your post yet not once did you stop and think that maybe, just maybe the whole thing reeked of scam?
What do you do when the fire alarm goes off, keep sitting there till the flames envelop you? |

Mangua Desnart
The Scope Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.01.18 11:59:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:You mention alarm bells 4 times in your post yet not once did you stop and think that maybe, just maybe the whole thing reeked of scam?
Yes but as I again mentioned in my post I was blinded by the rose coloured glasses
J3ssica Alba wrote: What do you do when the fire alarm goes off, keep sitting there till the flames envelop you?
I might just do now... |

Atticus Fynch
342
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Posted - 2012.01.18 12:07:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:...where this game is quite blatantly ruled by douchebags and it's showing even in CCP's design decisions.
I agree. It has to do with what CCP defines as "hardcore" which is just CCP sanctioned griefing. This game has so much potential but there is a fly in the ointment and CCP refuses to see that EVE currently caters to "douchbags" most of all...which takes away from the game as a whole. NeX needs hats. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=652239&#post652239 |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
350
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Posted - 2012.01.18 12:32:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:People are ********.
That is all. This kind of thing is why I just have no sympathy for the game or it's player base anymore, it's usually the case in communities that there's a small group of douchebags that go around causing trouble for everyone but in this case it seems to be the other way round where this game is quite blatantly ruled by douchebags and it's showing even in CCP's design decisions. OP, no decent corporation will ever demand money for joining since it costs nothing to bring people in, they may tax you after joining but that's about it, next time, go with your gut instead of listening to a scammer trying to reason with you.
Apart from which, you should only ever give out your LIMITED API details. Full API is a big no-no. Big red flag should pop-up in your mind if you see a requirement for your Full API. Good thing you saw that part of it.
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Tomytronic
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
48
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Posted - 2012.01.18 12:38:00 -
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Atticus Fynch wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:...where this game is quite blatantly ruled by douchebags and it's showing even in CCP's design decisions. I agree. It has to do with what CCP defines as "hardcore" which is just CCP sanctioned griefing. This game has so much potential but there is a fly in the ointment and CCP refuses to see that EVE currently caters to "douchbags" most of all...which takes away from the game as a whole. Hey look, actions have consequences. Nice work passing the buck for your own actions and expecting CCP to nursemaid you through every decision you make with your life. Do you cry to them when you lose your pew pew ship to rats? Do you open up a thousand petitions when you can't fit your ship correctly?
It's almost like CCP gives you the opportunity to think and play for yourself without holding your hand at every single opportunity. There are many more of us who prefer it this way. We all lose things and we all learn from them. It's called being an adult.
Actions have consequences. |

Trader Plex
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.01.18 12:39:00 -
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so you did not complete the application process, were interviewed 3 times and wonder why they didnt give you your money back?
1) You wasted a lot of ppls time 2) What do they have to gain by giving you your money back?
also i dont really get which part of the full api key is that dangerous? maybe someone can give me a hint to that.
Thanks! |

Atticus Fynch
344
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Posted - 2012.01.18 12:45:00 -
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Tomytronic wrote:Atticus Fynch wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:...where this game is quite blatantly ruled by douchebags and it's showing even in CCP's design decisions. I agree. It has to do with what CCP defines as "hardcore" which is just CCP sanctioned griefing. This game has so much potential but there is a fly in the ointment and CCP refuses to see that EVE currently caters to "douchbags" most of all...which takes away from the game as a whole. Hey look, actions have consequences. Nice work passing the buck for your own actions and expecting CCP to nursemaid you through every decision you make with your life. Do you cry to them when you lose your pew pew ship to rats? Do you open up a thousand petitions when you can't fit your ship correctly? It's almost like CCP gives you the opportunity to think and play for yourself without holding your hand at every single opportunity. There are many more of us who prefer it this way. We all lose things and we all learn from them. It's called being an adult. Actions have consequences.
Spoken like a true douchbag. 
You missed the point completely. NeX needs hats. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=652239&#post652239 |

knobber Jobbler
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
23
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:17:00 -
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Thorn Galen wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:People are ********.
That is all. This kind of thing is why I just have no sympathy for the game or it's player base anymore, it's usually the case in communities that there's a small group of douchebags that go around causing trouble for everyone but in this case it seems to be the other way round where this game is quite blatantly ruled by douchebags and it's showing even in CCP's design decisions. OP, no decent corporation will ever demand money for joining since it costs nothing to bring people in, they may tax you after joining but that's about it, next time, go with your gut instead of listening to a scammer trying to reason with you. Apart from which, you should only ever give out your LIMITED API details. Full API is a big no-no. Big red flag should pop-up in your mind if you see a requirement for your Full API. Good thing you saw that part of it.
Full API for null sec corps is standard. |

Mangua Desnart
The Scope Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:21:00 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:Thorn Galen wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:People are ********.
That is all. This kind of thing is why I just have no sympathy for the game or it's player base anymore, it's usually the case in communities that there's a small group of douchebags that go around causing trouble for everyone but in this case it seems to be the other way round where this game is quite blatantly ruled by douchebags and it's showing even in CCP's design decisions. OP, no decent corporation will ever demand money for joining since it costs nothing to bring people in, they may tax you after joining but that's about it, next time, go with your gut instead of listening to a scammer trying to reason with you. Apart from which, you should only ever give out your LIMITED API details. Full API is a big no-no. Big red flag should pop-up in your mind if you see a requirement for your Full API. Good thing you saw that part of it. Full API for null sec corps is standard.
Well I guess I aint going null sec then, because there is no way in this life or the next I am giving out a full API again! |

Sandrestal
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:21:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:Care to name some names? I'm one of the recruitment officers for Bat Country in Goonswarm, and we don't tolerate this kind of behavior from our members.
HaHaHa....Oh my. Goons don't recruit, they scam. Stop posting as you make Goons look worse than they are
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Mangua Desnart
The Scope Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:22:00 -
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Sandrestal wrote:Stop posting as you make Goons look worse than they are
How the hell can I do that, they seem to excell at that on their own! |

Sandrestal
University of Caille Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:38:00 -
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Mangua Desnart wrote:Sandrestal wrote:Stop posting as you make Goons look worse than they are
How the hell can I do that, they seem to excell at that on their own!
Perhaps you are not as bright as I first thought you were. Did you look at who I was quoting? |

Mangua Desnart
The Scope Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:40:00 -
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Sandrestal wrote:
Perhaps you are not as bright as I first thought you were. Did you look at who I was quoting?
Woops... *takes off Red Mist glasses and thinks I REALLY need to go back to Specsavers* |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
65
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:47:00 -
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Lets see: When googleing "joining Goons", the very first result that comes up is this... hell, they even tell you that you will be scammed if you send ISK. Unbanned since 2011.10.20. |

Mangua Desnart
The Scope Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:49:00 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Lets see: When googleing "joining Goons", the very first result that comes up is this... hell, they even tell you that you will be scammed if you send ISK.
OK so I missed it but it seems you missed the 37 other postings that all quote this page! |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
65
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Posted - 2012.01.18 13:53:00 -
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Apparently, it can-¦t hurt to post this ever and ever again...... Unbanned since 2011.10.20. |

Valei Khurelem
176
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:12:00 -
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Quote:Hey look, actions have consequences. Nice work passing the buck for your own actions and expecting CCP to nursemaid you through every decision you make with your life.
There's a difference between having every aspect of your life catered for and dealing with people who are knowingly or criminally tricking people into buying scams, yes, the OP should have known better and will hopefully learn from this, I'm of the opinion that the internet has become a place where stupid people are taking advantage of, I genuinely think kids should go on the internet just to learn about all these scams people are running so that they don't ever get tricked.
That said, I'd expect nothing less than poorly written justifications from the very people constantly trying on these scams because they're too lazy and dishonest to play the game properly and earn ISK the way everyone else has to. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1572
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:17:00 -
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Valei Khurelem wrote:and earn ISK the way everyone else has to.
Nobody forces you to make your ISK through stupid missions or whatever. |

Mangua Desnart
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:20:00 -
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Andski wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:and earn ISK the way everyone else has to. Nobody forces you to make your ISK through stupid missions or whatever.
OK fair enough you think missions are stupid, there are plenty of other legitimate ways to earn isk even pirating is a trade that some people cant be bothered to learn properly these days! |

Trader Plex
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:31:00 -
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Mangua Desnart wrote:Andski wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:and earn ISK the way everyone else has to. Nobody forces you to make your ISK through stupid missions or whatever. OK fair enough you think missions are stupid, there are plenty of other legitimate ways to earn isk even pirating is a trade that some people cant be bothered to learn properly these days!
so pirating is ok but getting isk donated is not? |

Mangua Desnart
The Scope Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:37:00 -
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Trader Plex wrote:Mangua Desnart wrote:Andski wrote:Valei Khurelem wrote:and earn ISK the way everyone else has to. Nobody forces you to make your ISK through stupid missions or whatever. OK fair enough you think missions are stupid, there are plenty of other legitimate ways to earn isk even pirating is a trade that some people cant be bothered to learn properly these days! so pirating is ok but getting isk donated is not?
SCAMMED!! not donated |

Mai Khumm
Apple Construction Inc Northern Associates.
153
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:44:00 -
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Every time I read a post like this I laugh a little.
Scam in EVE function like scams IRL.
Q: Would you give your personal banking details to a potential employer? A: No!
Q: Would you pay for a job interview? A: No!
But you would in EVE...
If you're dumb enough to fall for a scam, you deserved to get scammed...
Quit bitching about it and move on...
(for those of you who fall for this type of scam, can you please evemail me your credit card and/or PayPal information for an in game credit check) James Hetfield, can you please hit the bottle again and make good music? |

Gerald Taric
F-H Schwerindustrie und Sicherheit KRAUTZ-FEDERATION
28
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:44:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:BTW: as recruiter i request full API too. This doesn't mean i will scam or something. But no one wants to have strangers in corp. Hiding full API is a first sign that person will not be good and open member.... Most likely. DENIED. Please have a look at the new API KEY creation page:
Quote:Communications: NotificationTexts Notifications MailMessages MailingLists MailBodies ContactNotifications ContactList At very least foreign mailbodies are not anyone others bussiness. Period.
If others give their FULL API key out - it's their decission. I wouldn't.
By the way: As already stated in other treads: You can't detect serious spys this way, as they would use multible accounts.
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Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
878
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Posted - 2012.01.18 14:54:00 -
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Mangua Desnart wrote:Andski wrote:I'll get to the bottom of this and ensure that your ISK is returned or the offending members expelled for sullying the reputation of our honourable spaceship corporation! Well if you do great, but after my dealings with your corp so far, you'll forgive me if I dont hold my breath!
and now the learning begins
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Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
97
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Posted - 2012.01.18 15:02:00 -
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Kehro Urgus wrote:I just don't understand the appeal that makes this scam possible...
Goons are efamous, and people seem to believe that they too will be efamous if they just join. Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter |
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