(edit: If You don't know what i'm taliking about, read sumit minutes - theyre is a possibility they will add limited SP respecialisation mechanism in eve)

SP respec. I mean, really? SP respec in my EVE?

I think someone got hit in the head with something heavy.

When titans lost ability to shoot DD trough portal and later lost AOE effect - no one refunded them their Energy Weapons V
When SB lost cruise bonus no one gave us Cruise specialisation back as SP
When there was nano nerf, no one gave us back skills from navigation and minmatar HAC 5
When you nerfed PI, no one gave us back PI skiils
When you nerfed carriers (removed large cargo-hold) no one refunded us capital skills

SO WHY THE HELL, when SC nerf hits we suddenly hear about giving back skills for drones, or more, even SP RESPEC MECHANISM?

Eve is all about action and consequences of said actions. As oposed to games like WOW, where there is limit of what i can learn, there is no situation when i hit imaginery wall and can not train further

In EVE when i no longer need some skills (want to check something new) i just start training them. I remap and +5 needed skills and start trainig for new stuff.

This will actually hit new players very hard - imagine that we have 100m SP bitter-vet and 5m SP no-longer-noob fresh player. Imagine now that CCP introduced new type of ships - something in range of new player that don't require tons of skills to fly.

What new payer can do? well, he have no skills to abandon just like that, so he have to train for it. What about bitter-vet? Well, he just drop his Titan 5 and gets all needed skill to lvl 5 in minutes.

This in turn will cause even larger gap between veterans and new players. Right now when something new is introduced (PI for example) all payers are on equal footing - everyone have to train to use new stuff. OFC veterans have more isk = can use +5, possible have remaps for such occasion stored, so they can get there slightly faster - but they still have to train to it.


SO ALL IN ALL - DONT RESPEC, OR WE WILL LOOSE ALL RESPECT :)

(by We i mean I, and everyone thinking alike)

I want mining gone from my character sheet

Otherwise I agree, being able to respec from one FOTM to the next would be bad.

*wipes off spittle from shouting*

Hate to break it to you...but its already there in the game...they've used it twice now.
But I support either way.

Preemptive whine leading to premature butthurt, lulz

-1

There is a difference between allowing players to choose what they dont like - remove it - and aply somewhere else

AND

reinbursting players for skills that where completely removed from game.

I agree. No respec in my EVE

Depends on what the "limited" part of the SP respec means.

-1 Because I think some respec is needed if not just to get rid of useless starter skills. Not to mention it won't hurt anything at all and this entire thread is one huge overreaction to nothing at all.

Depends on what the "limited" part of the SP respec means.

-1 Because I think some respec is needed if not just to get rid of useless starter skills. Not to mention it won't hurt anything at all and this entire thread is one huge overreaction to nothing at all.

I can see why the OP posted this though.

CCP will always change things, and it would be pretty unfair to allow a respec for carriers when they haven't done this for say, SB's or other ships that they have nerfed over the years.

It's not game breaking, granted, but it does seem pretty unfair.

Do we know more than this:?

"The CSM reiterated its desire for CCP to implement a partial skill respec, especially in the aftermath of major changes to ship classes such as the removal of drones from supercarriers."

That could mean lots of things. If it's just SC and drone skills that get respec-able, then I agree that CCP should not give a get-out-of-jail-free-card to such a small number of players, especially in light of other people skilling up for stuff that later got changed.

If it means that we can respec say 1-10m skillpoints yearly, well, that's something I think is pretty cool. I have some more or less wasted skillpoints I wouldn't mind putting elsewhere.

edit. OP why didn't you give us that quote I have posted? Bad OP. BAD. Go to your box.

This will actually hit new players very hard - imagine that we have 100m SP bitter-vet and 5m SP no-longer-noob fresh player. Imagine now that CCP introduced new type of ships - something in range of new player that don't require tons of skills to fly.

What new payer can do? well, he have no skills to abandon just like that, so he have to train for it. What about bitter-vet? Well, he just drop his Titan 5 and gets all needed skill to lvl 5 in minutes.

This in turn will cause even larger gap between veterans and new players. Right now when something new is introduced (PI for example) all payers are on equal footing - everyone have to train to use new stuff. OFC veterans have more isk = can use +5, possible have remaps for such occasion stored, so they can get there slightly faster - but they still have to train to it.

Do we know more than this:?

"The CSM reiterated its desire for CCP to implement a partial skill respec, especially in the aftermath of major changes to ship classes such as the removal of drones from supercarriers."

That could mean lots of things. If it's just SC and drone skills that get respec-able, then I agree that CCP should not give a get-out-of-jail-free-card to such a small number of players, especially in light of other people skilling up for stuff that later got changed.

If it means that we can respec say 1-10m skillpoints yearly, well, that's something I think is pretty cool. I have some more or less wasted skillpoints I wouldn't mind putting elsewhere.

edit. OP why didn't you give us that quote I have posted? Bad OP. BAD. Go to your box.

The 100m SP bitter-vet will most likely already have the prerequisites at 5, maybe 4, so if he wants to fly it shortly after release, he will no matter what. If he respecs, he might get a 1-month headstart for flying a ship that is going to be in the game for years...

..and besides, CCP could just limit new stuff so that it cannot be respecced into.

How do you feel about remaps?



also there is no minmatar hac skill

True, but did You remember when they introduced:
- PI
- Gas Mining
- Noctis

Those are just an example of new stuff that are available to new player almost from the beggining.

I use remaps, because they are there. I have mixed filling about using them.

I can respec that (h++h++).

Eve is a game in a competitive market. As the market is constantly changing, so EVE should be constantly developing. That's the facts of business. If tinkering with SP appeals to the market then tinkering there will be. If there are other MMO's who do or are doing something similar then it's natural that EVE will do the same.

There are, and there are tones (WOW comes to mind, and any other clone). But what drove people toward EVE was that in here, there is not.

When titans lost ability to shoot DD trough portal and later lost AOE effect - no one refunded them their Energy Weapons V

When SB lost cruise bonus no one gave us Cruise specialisation back as SP

When there was nano nerf, no one gave us back skills from navigation and minmatar HAC 5

When you nerfed PI, no one gave us back PI skiils

When you nerfed carriers (removed large cargo-hold) no one refunded us capital skills

My point being that I am not going to freak out about the "possible" consequences of something we know nothing about yet. They said they had an idea for a limited SP respec. That's it...other than that we know NOTHING! No need to freak out about it. We don't even know what they have in mind for the word "limited".

Pilots - most particularly super-carrier pilots - should be given a "partial respec" of their skill-points

I don't like re-specs at all. That being said I did, at the urging of several people that contacted me, bring up the fact that there are a lot of ~mad~ supercarrier pilots out there who now have literally millions of skill points in drones trained which they can do nothing with. Yes, yes, whaaaaaaaaa, etc... However, I'm one of these people. Seleene has been in a Nyx since late 2006 and, once you make that leap, about the only thing left to actually train was the drone skills. I maxed those out years ago. I think it's kind of dumb that I can no longer use those skills that I trained specifically for the ship I was flying / trapped in. However, I'd still prefer the docking solution I mentioned earlier before opening the Pandora's Box of respecs.

If I make some bad skill choices with a char, the only way to correct it is to recycle the char and make a new one, thereby flushing my time and money down the drain.

I have been playing eve since 06 and I have made some bad choices of skills over the year. Being an older player I think the perks need to flow like wine for us who have been playing for a long time. That is why I think respec is a good thing. I am all in favor for respec but there should be some constraints.

1. Respec once a year only.
2. Limit of 10 million skill points.

That's my opinion

I just want to get rid of my goddamn industry skills

No respec, ever.