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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.08 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Maybe we can tone down the racism a little bit? Not every isk farmer is Chinese and not every person from China is an isk farmer.
Nice fakepost.
Originally by: Khavi Vetali
Oh don't worry, the goons are just as suicidal with their battleships as they are with their frigates.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:24:00 -
[62]
Originally by: ED 209 The problem could easily be solved by building another railroad.
Who got your stuff? RKK?
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pershphanie
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:33:00 -
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Edited by: pershphanie on 08/09/2007 08:41:41
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Maybe we can tone down the racism a little bit? Not every isk farmer is Chinese and not every person from China is an isk farmer.
/signed
its hella weak that anyone in this game who speaks any sort of asian language is automatically thought of as an isk farmer.
question 4 everyone - Do you dislike isk farmers or do just dislike that they're Chinese? If its all isk farmers that you dislike then why bother to prefix the term "isk farmer" with "chinese"? ------>PҼſϚի<------
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Shadowsword
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Toffles Maybe they should be more proactive in banning isk farmers.
Banning isk farmers only slow them down a bit. To be really effective, it's the isk buyers you need to ban... ------------------------------------------
What is Oomph? It the sound Amarr players makes when they get kicked in the ribs. |
pershphanie
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Toffles Maybe they should be more proactive in banning isk farmers.
Banning isk farmers only slow them down a bit. To be really effective, it's the isk buyers you need to ban...
I'm shocked anyone would buy isk at all being that they can get it safely from time cards.
Why do ppl buy isk for cash? ------>PҼſϚի<------
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Lady Caeser
Open Fist of Castallus
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:50:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Caeser on 08/09/2007 08:54:01 T2 Black Ops BS is something I'd probably be able to fly very soon if not immediately, so would be cool to check it out.
Its going to require something like Battleship 5, Cloaking 4/5 and Covert Ops 5 in all likelihood.
The way the 0.0 isk farmers operate is that they'll farm for maybe 6 months then send all the isk to their main/boss whatever and when its sold it'll be flagged and the account banned, but that doesn't matter because they'll already have self destructed their ship for the insurance money and be ready to setup a new account through a different proxy.
The thing thats important here is 6 months is not going to be enough time for the isk farmers to get into these ships.
They don't need them either, they're already invincible via the logoff button.
The racism thing may seem harsh, but nobody hates chinese people! The simple fact is its only viable to farm isk in places like china because the cost of living is like 1/8th of that in the U.S.A and places where the EVE players live, a U.S.A isk shop couldn't support itself, so rather than saying that all isk farmers are Chinese, its more likely they work in China (but could be any nationality and that is really irrelevent). -------------------------------------- What are you looking at? -------------------------------------- |
Agnst
Amarr Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.09.08 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Maybe we can tone down the racism a little bit? Not every isk farmer is Chinese and not every person from China is an isk farmer.
Ofc not, don't forge ze RUSSIANS!
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Kirah Ovai
Altcenaries
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:14:00 -
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The bigotry is strong in this thread. Why don't all the omfg-ze-farmers-will-ruin-eve quit the game already. Clearly the chinese are out to get you.
And I better stop running missions, lest I be accused of being an "isk farmer"
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Fraps
Setenta Corp Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:15:00 -
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Edited by: Fraps on 08/09/2007 09:16:09
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Maybe we can tone down the racism a little bit? Not every isk farmer is Chinese and not every person from China is an isk farmer.
I love how some random person wil call racism when its not even a valid claim. look it up nub, racism is more of a hate of another race for nothing more than the fact that they are of that race. the k-k-k( who knew three ks in a row gets filterd) hates black people thats racism. the fact that 99% of isk farmers are of chinese decent is not racism its fact. they flood every game, that is there job, if they could get away with it in other countries they would. china just happens to have the lowest wage and the lowest human rights standards of any modern age country. thus thats where the the isk or gold or credit or whatever farmers propigate. calling it racism is a disrespect those who have devoted there lives to stomping such an ugly practice. I would think that once you reach an age where you stop using shock words simply because you can is when you will actually make sense and hopefully a difference.
Originally by: Rohann /emote pokes woody and moons him
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Fraps
Setenta Corp Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:19:00 -
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Edited by: Fraps on 08/09/2007 09:20:18
Originally by: Kirah Ovai The bigotry is strong in this thread. Why don't all the omfg-ze-farmers-will-ruin-eve quit the game already. Clearly the chinese are out to get you.
And I better stop running missions, lest I be accused of being an "isk farmer"
see my post above, get an education...
isk farming is the practice of making isk or any in game currency for the purpose or selling said currency in a real world market. if thats your plan, then yes you are isk farmer and you should be banned.
Originally by: Rohann /emote pokes woody and moons him
I R NEKID SEE!?!?!?!?! |
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Plague Rexus
Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:22:00 -
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Originally by: Fraps Edited by: Fraps on 08/09/2007 09:16:55 Edited by: Fraps on 08/09/2007 09:16:09
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Maybe we can tone down the racism a little bit? Not every isk farmer is Chinese and not every person from China is an isk farmer.
I love how some random person wil call racism when its not even a valid claim. look it up nub, racism is more of a hate of another race for nothing more than the fact that they are of that race. the k-k-k( who knew three ks in a row gets filterd) hates, black people thats racism. the fact that 99% of isk farmers are of chinese decent is not racism, its fact. they flood every game, that is there job, if they could get away with it in other countries they would. china just happens to have the lowest wage and the lowest human rights standards of any modern age country. thus thats where the the isk or gold or credit or whatever farmers propigate. calling it racism is a disrespect those who have devoted there lives to stomping such an ugly practice. I would think that once you reach an age where you stop using shock words simply because you can is when you will actually make sense and hopefully a difference.
Absolutely signed, another guy made the point that its simply being nasty or rude to another race, well thats it then i had better be nice to everyone i meet who isnt english for the rest of my life. By shouting racism whenever a valid opinion is formed you guys are squashing free speech and propagating ridiculous political correctness. I say get some common sense. The only reason this has cropped up is because isk farming is a negative in the eve community, nobody would say a damn thing if we made the valid point that most russians/eastern europeans seems vicious and efficient in pvp. Nobody is going to contest chinese or korean human rights abuses by calling someone racist if they say it.
Oh and about the thread, they should just come up with newer scanners.
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Fraps
Setenta Corp Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Toffles Maybe they should be more proactive in banning isk farmers.
Banning isk farmers only slow them down a bit. To be really effective, it's the isk buyers you need to ban...
mmmm devils advocae here. maybe CCP should stop supporting isk farming with there vaildation of game cards for isk. pick a side, either make a supported exchange of real world currency for isk or stop supported the exchange all together.
Originally by: Rohann /emote pokes woody and moons him
I R NEKID SEE!?!?!?!?! |
Ricco Lonestar
Minmatar SuX ltd.
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:30:00 -
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Geeezz cloacked masochistic Chinese leatherboys.
Yieks!!
P.s. They hack our governments,don't let them hack you!
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Annerinas
Eve Defence Force Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.08 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Fraps
Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Toffles Maybe they should be more proactive in banning isk farmers.
Banning isk farmers only slow them down a bit. To be really effective, it's the isk buyers you need to ban...
mmmm devils advocae here. maybe CCP should stop supporting isk farming with there vaildation of game cards for isk. pick a side, either make a supported exchange of real world currency for isk or stop supported the exchange all together.
Step 1. Enter Trade Channel. Step 2. Say Hi. Step 3. Wait for ISK evemail.
Pricing does not add up. They're not buying and reselling cards for isk then selling isk for cash. The ones buying the cards are players who may've otherwise bought the isk and so fueled even MORE farming. Removing the GTC trade will make it worse, not better. You'll have a isk value rise, which will mean more farmers to meet the demand.
Its simply the price of playing a game like this. Be glad you can still enjoy the content. Some games (particularly harder Korean grind games) have it so bad you wont even be allowed near some of the content, because its 24/7 camped and guarded.
As for the OP, well I seriously doubt CCP will add a cloaking battleship and not a cloaking hunter. They don't like farmers any more than we do and wouldn't want a cloaked BS in every major belt system in the game. The claim that they want the farming accounts is undermined by the fact that GTC trade quite adequately provides them with accounts. Accounts which wont generate nearly as much PR and customer service costs.
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Darth Plague
Amarr Centurians
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Posted - 2007.09.08 10:29:00 -
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I see ppl making remarks about race so I have a question scince when did the chinese become a race unto their own.I thought they were part of the Asian race of which in general I like asians .But becuase of the play style of alot of the chinese I dislike them because they have ruined countless other games.
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Pesadel0
Ordem dos Templarios Pax Atlantis
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Posted - 2007.09.08 12:00:00 -
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Originally by: Fraps Edited by: Fraps on 08/09/2007 09:29:53 Edited by: Fraps on 08/09/2007 09:29:08 Edited by: Fraps on 08/09/2007 09:16:55 Edited by: Fraps on 08/09/2007 09:16:09
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Maybe we can tone down the racism a little bit? Not every isk farmer is Chinese and not every person from China is an isk farmer.
I love how some random person wil call racism when its not even a valid claim. look it up nub, racism is more of a hate of another race for nothing more than the fact that they are of that race. the k-k-k( who knew three ks in a row gets filterd) hates black people, thats racism. the fact that 99% of isk farmers are of chinese decent is not racism, its fact. they flood every game, that is there job, if they could get away with it in other countries they would. china just happens to have the lowest wage and the lowest human rights standards of any modern age country. thus thats where the the isk or gold or credit or whatever farmers propigate. calling it racism is a disrespect those who have devoted there lives to stomping such an ugly practice. I would think that once you reach an age where you stop using shock words simply because you can is when you will actually make sense and hopefully a difference.
im drinking so expect more edits for grammer and after thoughts. though in know way am i saying my grammer will be anywer this side of the galaxy near correct. in fact it may get worse.
Fraps wins the forums.
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consider telos
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.08 12:26:00 -
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I doubt you will see isk farmers in black ops bs anytime soon. The t2 bs's most likely will have high sp requirements. You'll probably need command ship or force recon plus bs level 5. I can't see the isk farmers having sp allocated in these areas. Especially command ship.
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Mallick
Northern Intelligence Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.09.08 12:38:00 -
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Americans are fat - OMFG RACISM!
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JeanPaul Sartre
26th of July Movement
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Posted - 2007.09.08 12:46:00 -
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Edited by: JeanPaul Sartre on 08/09/2007 12:48:06 Edited by: JeanPaul Sartre on 08/09/2007 12:46:34 Look there seems to be confusion over the TERM racism so lets define it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
Now I'm not a wikipedia fan really but I'm sure most of you are so I'm using their definition here.
Some salient points:
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement
2. As racism carries connotations of race-based bigotry, prejudice, violence, oppression, stereotyping or discrimination, the term has varying and often hotly contested definitions.
Now can we argue our points around this framework of understanding? I'm not suggesting burning a cross on some guys lawn is the same as calling every raven in a belt a Chinese ISK farmer, but racism allows no degrees.
Discuss from here now you are better informed.
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Quote: If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.08 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Angor Edited by: Angor on 08/09/2007 05:56:31 Cloaking BS's with jump drives/jump portals lmao. What next, battleships with doomsday's?
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Kirah Ovai
Altcenaries
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Posted - 2007.09.08 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Fraps Edited by: Fraps on 08/09/2007 09:20:18
Originally by: Kirah Ovai The bigotry is strong in this thread. Why don't all the omfg-ze-farmers-will-ruin-eve quit the game already. Clearly the chinese are out to get you.
And I better stop running missions, lest I be accused of being an "isk farmer"
see my post above, get an education...
isk farming is the practice of making isk or any in game currency for the purpose or selling said currency in a real world market. if thats your plan, then yes you are isk farmer and you should be banned.
Why thank you for the tip, I think I'm off now to inscribe for "mmorpg lingo for beginners" at the local uni. Maybe then I can have a conversation on the interwebs with highly educated people such as yourself without embarrassing myself.
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General StarScream
Cybertronic Decepticons
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Posted - 2007.09.08 14:31:00 -
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HEy ciaphas Khaine, i dont think its right of you to box the chinees people like that.
theres alot of gamers from china that play for fun.
maybe you should limet your self to the term Isk farmer, insted of boxing People like that.
thats just wrong, and you should know it.
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.08 14:39:00 -
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Why does GTC trading for ISK have such a negative opinion. Some people don't have credit cards to use every month. Some people may not have the cash at the right time to continue their subscription.
Some people sell ISK for dollars/Pounds.
Some people sell GTC for ISK. (this is the camp I'm in btw)
Some people ( me ) don't have the time or the inkling of an idea to spend mining/ratting and refining to buy the next shiny toy - in my case I haven't actually needed anything that expensive or in fact needed to replace anything, but still even miners want ISK to get a new bpo of something or other.
What I'm saying is there are customers for both trades, and believe me they are two different trades. One set of customer has money but no ISK (which is lets face it, practically free anyway), the other set of customer has ISK but no money, or access to use money online atleast.
It'll be interesting to see IF the Doctor can shed the light on the economic impact of what macro ratters/miners do to the economy. I know they exist in 0.0 as well as empire, but even new players can't mine that much tritanium required to keep an a corp/alliance in ships!
I wonder do NPC corps sell the low end minerals?
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busta nut
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.08 14:48:00 -
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maybe you should all just lighten up tbfh
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Bluudbath
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Posted - 2007.09.08 14:53:00 -
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just a fact in most mmo asian's make up the majority of isk/gold farmers period. no racism involed.
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Royaldo
Gallente KVA Noble Inc. Institute of Cooperative Education
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Posted - 2007.09.08 15:06:00 -
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beh!
Isk farmers.. hmm..
Now that ive lived with them for a while i just dont care anymore. The local babelfish smack is just funny. The mission hauler isk farmers just.. well, some parts of the game universe was really empty. Now i just consider them to be npc's.
The only thing that bothers me is the ones who mines out all the ore. And a simple way to fix that is increase ore respawn.
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Privious
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.08 16:10:00 -
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WTB Thread lock BPO 7 bil. ---------
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Naomi Wildfire
Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.08 18:40:00 -
[88]
Wait.. play.. whine..
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Arii Smith
Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.09.08 18:44:00 -
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What's so bad about racism?
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Plaetean
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.09.08 18:58:00 -
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oh look it's the PC parade
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