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DJDie
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2007.09.08 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Curso is saying the majority of english drink tea or that most ppl that eat frogs legs are french racist?
i agree with a bob member
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Radicus
Solar Storm Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.09.08 00:47:00 -
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It isn't so much about that, I bet T2 was designed for putting noobs at a disadvantage. But then again looking at how skill progression works in Eve there's probably no way to not screw noobs. My main beef is that most of the content added is mostly high end stuff, and while that is normal and cool in most other MMOs, other games don't have a strict time restriction on it like Eve does. I don't particularly care though, just something to note.
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JeanPaul Sartre
26th of July Movement
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Posted - 2007.09.08 01:00:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Nick Curso is saying the majority of english drink tea or that most ppl that eat frogs legs are french racist?
Yes
Stereotyping is racism by definition.
It's actually astounding the amount of blatant racism you encounter in Eve every day. I blame the ******* crouts. --
Quote: If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
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Brunswick2
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.08 01:19:00 -
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the black ops battleship will have little if no dps and/or tank... making it very bad for isk farming
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Captian Internet
Lead Bricks
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Posted - 2007.09.08 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Maybe we can tone down the racism a little bit? Not every isk farmer is Chinese and not every person from China is an isk farmer.
Statistically speaking i have not met any isk farmers so far that did not speak chinese, and theres a whole bunch of em in fountain
Your preexisting predilection to judge a chinese person as an isk farmer has made it so that you automatically disregard the possibility of someone who speaks english being an isk farmer, congratulations on your confirmation bias, chummer
Actually, i have yet to see anyone who speaks english that displays isk farming behavior, hence its not bias but experience, which however yes is limited to fountain.
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CrispyKritters
Caldari GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.09.08 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: CrispyKritters on 08/09/2007 01:34:03 Edited by: CrispyKritters on 08/09/2007 01:33:40 Edited by: CrispyKritters on 08/09/2007 01:33:27
Originally by: Lacosya
Originally by: Anton Marx
But a vast majority of them are!
And that's racism at its best!
get a dictionary,,,,its not racism, he isnt claiming to be a superior race to the chineese. get over the Politically correct crap
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
ok...
Not all Chinese/Korean/Asian/Russian are isk farmer and not all isk farmers are Chinese/Korean/Asian/Russian. Stereotyping Chinese players as isk farmers is racism.
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2007.09.08 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Vorgoth
I wouldnt worry about the chinamen getting into these, they'll most likely require bs5 and some other higher skills.
Repostin' this to ensure you'll be banned. ___ Junkie Beverage: i use your tears to cyno in my laughter
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Fallen Buckshot
Amarr InQuest Ascension R i s e
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Posted - 2007.09.08 01:43:00 -
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Ive heard that the Irish Farm ... players ! thats right they camp gates stations whatever and make there isk off others modules .. this is an outrage and should be stopped ! :P
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Lacosya
asshats incorperated
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Posted - 2007.09.08 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: CrispyKritters
get a dictionary,,,,its not racism, he isnt claiming to be a superior race to the chineese. get over the Politically correct crap
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
ok...
Not all Chinese/Korean/Asian/Russian are isk farmer and not all isk farmers are Chinese/Korean/Asian/Russian. Stereotyping Chinese players as isk farmers is racism.
actually its sterotyping and not racism
Main Entry: rac+ism Function: noun 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
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Jacob Castillo
Caldari Copperhead Inc. Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.08 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Anton Marx
Originally by: Jacob Castillo
Originally by: Dungar Loghoth Maybe we can tone down the racism a little bit? Not every isk farmer is Chinese and not every person from China is an isk farmer.
But a vast majority of them are!
And that's racism at its best!
Possibly, but I never said all chinese were ISK farmers. I know plenty that aren't, but I have also yet to meet an ISK farmer that doesn't speak chinese.
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CrispyKritters
Caldari GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.09.08 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Lacosya
Originally by: CrispyKritters
get a dictionary,,,,its not racism, he isnt claiming to be a superior race to the chineese. get over the Politically correct crap
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
ok...
Not all Chinese/Korean/Asian/Russian are isk farmer and not all isk farmers are Chinese/Korean/Asian/Russian. Stereotyping Chinese players as isk farmers is racism.
actually its sterotyping and not racism
Main Entry: rac+ism Function: noun 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
doesn't have to be about superiority
2. discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race
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Kozak
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.08 02:09:00 -
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Are you upset that they are ISK farming or that you can't find them cause they cloak? Are you upset that they are stealing your ISK? Oh wait, rats respawn. Are you upset that they sell ISK on eBay? Oh, can't do that either.
Wait, what are you upset about again?
I've had corp members in other corps that would npc 24/7. They just liked ISK. Should they be banned cause most of what they do is NPC?
You guys all complain about ISK farmers but don't give a reason why. If you are upset about macroing, that's totally different. It has nothing to do with Cloaking Raven.
BTW, they you will be able to scan out cloaked ships next patch. And try to give a reason how ISK farming is ruining your game play beside spending 2 minutes looking for a cloaked raven.
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violator2k5
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.08 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Radicus Oh lovely, another skill intensive class that screws over noobs.
i knew someone was going to throw this card into play. tbh im surprised it took you guys a few days to notice it and not seen it any sooner then when it was first published on that site.
Originally by: Radicus I bet T2 was designed for putting noobs at a disadvantage. But then again looking at how skill progression works in Eve there's probably no way to not screw noobs.
i wouldnt say that they are trying to screw new players over (noobs) its more of a treat being dangled infront of them and if they want to go for it then they'll need to put the effort into training for it. thats how its always been since i first started playing this game.
skill requirements based off of those mentioned in that written interview should be very easy to guess so it should be pretty easy to be prepared and ready to skill up the ship skill to jump right into them.
anyway what i got from another thread in this forum is that there will be 20 new t2 ships in Rev 3. if they are doing 2 types of T2 bs im interested to see what the other 3 ship types are
Originally by: Brunswick2 the black ops battleship will have little if no dps and/or tank... making it very bad for isk farming
if it follows suit of its lower class recon - cov-ops ships then yea it more then likely will. all i can say is lets wait and see what they have for us to play with in november when they release Rev 3 ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------
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Thargat
Caldari S-44
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Posted - 2007.09.08 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: Thargat on 08/09/2007 02:22:47 edit: baaad things happened.... wierd.... posted with my main with another account... and... weird... deleted...
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Wigglytuff
Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.08 02:50:00 -
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Chinese is a nationality, not a race, human is a race.
And I hate all humans equally.
Also the PC crap needs to stop. I could give a very good example of something that is blindly true, but people get called racists for stating despite it being obvious, but I won't derail this thread (more than others have already) or turn it political/religious.
Also, I thought the comment about T2 BS was something like 'Carebears will like it', meaning CCP may be thinking of breaking their vow of 'no bigger HACs' once again.
Now far be it for me to deny Caldari their Torp-spewing version of the Cerb/Nighthawk, or Gallente some sort of BS with moros-grade Drone DPS, but if CCP pull that crap and just give us some bigger combat ship that'll be horribly lame.
Hopefully T2 BS are just the flagships. Give them both bonuses to gang links, and outright gang bonuses, like you find on the Titans (just not as large obviously).
It could go like this:
Amarr: 3% cap max per level Caldari 3% shield HP per level (resists would be covered by gang mod afterall) Gallente: 3% drone damage(or whatever) per level Minmatar: 3% reduction in duc... sigradius, or velocity boost.
It would be the big brothers to the Commandships, and you could give them alittle lower resists, and make them only as good for combat as their T1 counterparts.
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Kreul Intentions
Forum Moderator
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Posted - 2007.09.08 02:56:00 -
[46]
There were several psots where corp/alliance tickers were not showing. I have removed them. The rules for this forum are still in place, please abide by them to continue posting.
Thank you.
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Nebuchadnezzar I
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.08 03:17:00 -
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I agree with wiggly on both the offtopic discussion of the CAOD derailers and the ontopic issue.
In any case its all speculation. CCP may yet change their minds a few times - a covert BS tho sounds quite unlikely really, even ccp isnt THAT silly? :p
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Kozak
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.08 03:30:00 -
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If you have a problem with ISK farmers, you can just say "ISK Farmers". You don't have to single out a nationality. It's wrong. If you can't see that, then I feel sorry for anyone that you have to deal with in life.
On topic though, I haven't seen anyone make a valid point how NPCing - Cloaking - ISK Farmers are ruining the game for anyone. If they cloak, you can't kill them, just the same as if they were banned, YOU CAN'T KILL THEM. Rats respawn, so they aren't taking any resources of the game. What are they actually doing other then appearing neutral in local and not on scanner?
If you don't want recon battleships, please give a better reason then ISK Farmers, it's a lame reason.
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Voculus
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.09.08 03:57:00 -
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LOL at the "Ohnoes! Racism" crowd! _________________________________________________________
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Jack Cannon
STK Scientific M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.08 04:24:00 -
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Isk farmers are not hard to kill... They are highly predictable to the point of their own idiocy. Catching one just requires massive amounts of patience and a trained team and or gaggle of alts. I'd say a properly set up 3 man team can do it without issue all day long in 00% safety if you know what you are doing... it's boring as F*** but I know people who are patient enough and make quite a good living depriving them of their loot.
Isk farmers are not the most difficult players to catch you just have to know how they operate. Once you do you can farm them until your heart's content... oh and if they hire mercs to gank you... just tell them who they are supporting... most self respecting mercs will help you gank them after learning of this information. :lol
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Pandora's Child
InterMind Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.09.08 04:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kozak If you have a problem with ISK farmers, you can just say "ISK Farmers". You don't have to single out a nationality. It's wrong. If you can't see that, then I feel sorry for anyone that you have to deal with in life.
On topic though, I haven't seen anyone make a valid point how NPCing - Cloaking - ISK Farmers are ruining the game for anyone. If they cloak, you can't kill them, just the same as if they were banned, YOU CAN'T KILL THEM. Rats respawn, so they aren't taking any resources of the game. What are they actually doing other then appearing neutral in local and not on scanner?
If you don't want recon battleships, please give a better reason then ISK Farmers, it's a lame reason.
They create inflation in the eve economy. Despite what people think this actually has the effect of raising prices in the eve economy. However, until the eve economy is truely free market you will never see their impact significantly effect prices in eve since the overall value of items entering the game is tightly controlled by CCP. The more they farm the more CCP can just nerf rat spawns/complexes (which they already have IMHO)
that's my two cents.
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Rudy Metallo
Feral Instinct
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Posted - 2007.09.08 04:50:00 -
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Nuff said. Say what? |
Kozak
Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.08 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Pandora's Child
Originally by: Kozak If you have a problem with ISK farmers, you can just say "ISK Farmers". You don't have to single out a nationality. It's wrong. If you can't see that, then I feel sorry for anyone that you have to deal with in life.
On topic though, I haven't seen anyone make a valid point how NPCing - Cloaking - ISK Farmers are ruining the game for anyone. If they cloak, you can't kill them, just the same as if they were banned, YOU CAN'T KILL THEM. Rats respawn, so they aren't taking any resources of the game. What are they actually doing other then appearing neutral in local and not on scanner?
If you don't want recon battleships, please give a better reason then ISK Farmers, it's a lame reason.
They create inflation in the eve economy. Despite what people think this actually has the effect of raising prices in the eve economy. However, until the eve economy is truely free market you will never see their impact significantly effect prices in eve since the overall value of items entering the game is tightly controlled by CCP. The more they farm the more CCP can just nerf rat spawns/complexes (which they already have IMHO)
that's my two cents.
There are too many holes in your argument. First of all, everyone that ever killed an NPC and bought stuff from the market creates inflation. Second, everyone keeps mentioning ISK farmers from Asia. SOme of those farmers may make ISK to sell for real money. The only viable way to do it is through third party companies (Not eBay) or for them to buy timecards in game and sell them on eBay or third party companies. The timecard trade is very profitable for CCP and doesn't hurt the average player in anyway and does not interfere with the economy.
You guys really need to come up with better arguments against ISK Farming. There really isn't anything wrong with it, it doesn't hurt the average player in anyway. Marco Mining does, focus on them.
The only argument that eveyone seems to have is that they cloak. Heh, and that's just silly.
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Scav Silver
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.08 05:20:00 -
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So?? <scratchin' head>
Chinese are better at isk farmin', and the Russians are better at complexes, and the Irish just gate camp, and English drink tea and the French just like thier frog legs..
So??
Where does this leave us??
And what happend to the T2 BS topic??
This thread has no point..
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MrMajIc
VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.09.08 05:34:00 -
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Em CCP does act on farmers but it takes them ages. Proof is the ZDK9 group of venal...where are they now? well my isk farmer spy who speaks limited english tells me the GM has "GM not able to work!" them over 35 ravens all tied into them have been removed. but sadly they got 15 more accounts all returned. DOH
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Avalon Champion
Gene Works FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.08 05:41:00 -
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But back on topic.
My understanding was that CCP pulled T2 BS from the game anyway as of last patch, as they've removed the invention tab from the majority of the BS BP's.
Therefore useless thread, except to ***** about ISK farmers.
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Angor
The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.08 05:56:00 -
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Edited by: Angor on 08/09/2007 05:56:31 Cloaking BS's with jump drives/jump portals lmao. What next, battleships with doomsday's? _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.08 06:10:00 -
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Black Ops or Covert Ops? Oh, and some guy from CCP said it in an interview as an idea for things that might come along later. No details.
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ED 209
Old Detroit Crime Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.08 06:12:00 -
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The problem could easily be solved by building another railroad.
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MassonA
Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.08 06:14:00 -
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i think when you have lived in a largely "isk farmer" inhabited area, you do just end up calling them chinese because that is what 9/10 they are, and there isnt 1, or 2, theres a ****load of these guys
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