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Terh Rumnatarn Epidemic Inc. 5	Posted - 2012.01.18 13:49:00 - [1] - Quote Wikipedia 18 Jan 2012 - SOPA - this link is useless on any other day. Please CCP iterate your position concerning SOPA and PIPA. Silence is an answer too. (you haven`t joined the 18 Jan 2012 web movement) You can`t remain neutral regarding this. Your community needs a statement with your position.
Cannibal Kane Count With Teddy Mercenaries 192	Posted - 2012.01.18 13:53:00 - [2] - Quote Does this really matter to anybody outside of the USA? NO.... "Demoralize the Enemy from within by Surprise, Terror, Sabotage, Assassination. This method of Guarilla Warfare is the only Method of Warfare for me"
Kahega Amielden Rifterlings 91	Posted - 2012.01.18 13:59:00 - [3] - Quote Quote: You can`t remain neutral regarding this. CCP is an Icelandic company, so yes, yes they can.
Dust Fourtwenty Dust 515 4	Posted - 2012.01.18 14:02:00 - [4] - Quote but US ISPs could be forced to DNS block EVE theoretically and even CCP in all their wisdom wouldn't want that.
Ogogov Ars ex Discordia Test Alliance Please Ignore 4	Posted - 2012.01.18 14:03:00 - [5] - Quote Cannibal Kane wrote: Does this really matter to anybody outside of the USA? NO.... This will affect everyone utilizing the internet by introducing draconian legal tools for interfering with DNS resolution. If that wasn't worrying enough, try reading up on the international version called ACTA. For more information check out the front page of reddit, or Google's website where the logo is currently blacked out in opposition to these two terrible pieces of legislation. These two bills are just the opening shots in an all-out war of big content and existing rightsholders against the internet, and as such even if you aren't a US citizen you should be extremely frightened and pissed off.
Liam Mirren 184	Posted - 2012.01.18 14:03:00 - [6] - Quote Terh Rumnatarn wrote: Wikipedia 18 Jan 2012 - SOPA - this link is useless on any other day. Please CCP iterate your position concerning SOPA and PIPA. Silence is an answer too. (you haven`t joined the 18 Jan 2012 web movement) You can`t remain neutral regarding this. Your community needs a statement with your position. Self entitlement, right there. Also, they don't have to make a statement at all as it doesn't pertain them. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right.
Terh Rumnatarn Epidemic Inc. 5	Posted - 2012.01.18 14:06:00 - [7] - Quote Cannibal Kane wrote: Does this really matter to anybody outside of the USA? NO.... Check your country legislative proposals. Almost all EU countries have similar initiatives. Also, CCP is a international company with servers in US also. (and if I`m not mistaking they have an Atlanta office) And the final point, if US goes with SOPA and PIPA, the rest of the civilized world will implement this type of acts into their legislation.
Pattern Clarc Aperture Harmonics 359	Posted - 2012.01.18 14:09:00 - [8] - Quote As CCP uses a .com address, anything CCP does can fall under US jurisdiction. I don't believe Iceland has extradition treaties with the US, but if an Icelandic employee happened to be in the UK, and the US deemed Iceland to be in breach of that or many other badly written pieces of legislation.... Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction
Vaerah Vahrokha Vahrokh Consulting 137	Posted - 2012.01.18 14:15:00 - [9] - Quote Cannibal Kane wrote: Does this really matter to anybody outside of the USA? NO.... Yes it does. Many other countries are on the brink of introducing similarly ******** laws but so far their lobbies have not gained enough momentum to succeed at such plan. With the influential USA setting up such a massive precedent, you may expect a chain effect in a sizable part of the western countries. Eastern countries tend to have censorship and "freedom management" already anyway.
Valei Khurelem 176	Posted - 2012.01.18 14:20:00 - [10] - Quote Cannibal Kane wrote: Does this really matter to anybody outside of the USA? NO.... Please go and look at how the MPAA and RIAA are trying to keep their influence over european parliament and courts so they actively go after filesharers before you say such ignorant things.

CCP Guard C C P C C P Alliance 1588	Posted - 2012.01.18 14:22:00 - [11] - Quote Please keep political discussions from the so called "real world" in Out of Pod Experience. Thanks! :) CCP Guard \| EVE Community Developer

VKhaun Vex Viziam Amarr Empire 276	Posted - 2012.01.18 14:28:00 - [12] - Quote Now that it's something important to YOU we're allowed to talk about politics? CCP Spitfire wrote: 3. Discussions about politics and religion not allowed, there are other websites with forums for these topics. Quote: 7. It shouldn't be necessary to do so, but it appears that some players (And CCP mods -VK) feel the need to inflict their viewpoints on race, religion, politics, and other hot topic opinions on other players. These discussions will not be tolerated anywhere on the EVE forums. Players that cannot follow this guideline can lose their posting privileges immediately. This is the sole warning that will be issued regarding this.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids 840	Posted - 2012.01.18 14:57:00 - [13] - Quote You can still access wikipedia by following the advice they give you, disable javascripts and holy crap! Also google blackout is underway (they put a black box over google) you can still use it just fine though :trollface:
VKhaun Vex Viziam Amarr Empire 276	Posted - 2012.01.18 15:34:00 - [14] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: You can still access wikipedia by following the advice they give you, disable javascripts and holy crap! Also google blackout is underway (they put a black box over google) you can still use it just fine though :trollface: Yeah this black out thing is pretty pathetic so far.
Kusanagi Kasuga Ferocious Felines 6	Posted - 2012.01.18 15:37:00 - [15] - Quote Yes, this can and will affect people outside of the US.
Aiwha 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda 98	Posted - 2012.01.18 16:49:00 - [16] - Quote Cannibal Kane wrote: Does this really matter to anybody outside of the USA? NO.... We host a hell of a lot of content that you want access to. SOPA/PIPA would end that. Regards, LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter
Omen Talozan Lunar Asylum S I L E N T. 0	Posted - 2012.01.18 18:15:00 - [17] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIbseM2ol2c
Lithalnas Privateers Privateer Alliance 98	Posted - 2012.01.18 18:37:00 - [18] - Quote If I wanted to be a legal pain, all i would have to do is make some music, copyright it, overlay it on an eve online trailer posted to youtube, call my buddy up at the RIAA and say that CCP is using my music without proper rights, he then goes to his buddies in the government. Then all CCP domains are rerouted, website, forums, and game servers are blocked at the backbone level till this gets sorted which could be a week. The internet should be the wild west forever How to build a PC for EVE thread (by Akita T) http://eve-search.com/thread/1559734-0/page/1
Dust Fourtwenty Dust 515 5	Posted - 2012.01.18 19:05:00 - [19] - Quote you could have played today's emergency reboot as CCP's support for the protest
BLACK-STAR 404	Posted - 2012.01.18 19:26:00 - [20] - Quote Lithalnas wrote: If I wanted to be a legal pain, all i would have to do is make some music, copyright it, overlay it on an eve online trailer posted to youtube, call my buddy up at the RIAA and say that CCP is using my music without proper rights, he then goes to his buddies in the government. Then all CCP domains are rerouted, website, forums, and game servers are blocked at the backbone level till this gets sorted which could be a week. The internet should be the wild west forever I agree, I had a similar thought too that anyone could fake something and put blame on another. The bill is clearly set up to be a power abuse. I can see the Internet being mauled viciously, especially by companies like Sony. Here is the full list of organizations that support SOPA. It is a bit of a concern because this will affect other legislations on ridiculous freedom killing acts. If it is somehow approved, prepare for sacrifices. [img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img]
Slade Trillgon T.R.I.A.D 191	Posted - 2012.01.18 19:54:00 - [21] - Quote Cannibal Kane wrote: Does this really matter to anybody outside of the USA? NO.... /facepalm We are more connected then you and many others really want to admit. Liam Mirren wrote: Self entitlement, right there. Also, they don't have to make a statement at all as it doesn't pertain them. /facepalm Read above. We are not connected at all, we all live in our dark little corners and have no effect on others what so ever Do not get me wrong, citizens from the US and other countries found in the Americas do the same, but it really is sad in todays day and age. Slade
Amaroq Dricaldari Ministry of War Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2012.01.18 23:21:00 - [22] - Quote Damn it, CCP. This may be a political discussion, but it will effect THE ENTIRE INTERNET! Let me sum up SOPA and PIPA (copies of eachother) in my own words: Any website that has *ANY* amount of date from *ANY* other website will automatically be blocked. Translation: Every website in the world, including this one. So pull it together and do something about it. Do anything about it other than ignore it, please! Not just for the good of your company, but for the good of everyone around the world! GIVE ME LIBERTY, OR GIVE ME DEATH! This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
inexistin Rubbish and Garbage Removal Cascade Imminent 13	Posted - 2012.01.18 23:57:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Guard wrote: Please keep political discussions from the so called "real world" in Out of Pod Experience. Thanks! :) Is this "real world" thingy that stuff that keeps interfering with my time playing EVE?
Christopher AET Segmentum Solar NEM3SIS. 54	Posted - 2012.01.19 01:30:00 - [24] - Quote Could it be argued that this discussion is more legal than political. If so than surely we can chat here. In any case I am in UK and I have signed the petition urging the UK government to condemn SOPA. I encourage all members of all countries represented here to do the same.
Brujo Loco Brujeria Teologica 325	Posted - 2012.01.19 02:00:00 - [25] - Quote stupid SOPA acronym , every time I see It I think they actually advertising SOUP (I think in Spanish) ... Stupid SOPA, I HATE SOUP! Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco
Cephelange du'Krevviq Hephaestus LLC Gryphon League 15	Posted - 2012.01.19 02:23:00 - [26] - Quote Memes like this would die (and it is SOPA related): ****** reacts to SOPA (Downfall footage)
Spineker 95	Posted - 2012.01.19 04:14:00 - [27] - Quote SOPA is dead will never pass the senate nor congress for that matter. Most of the writers of SOPA are pulling back and saying they are not part of it.
Carceret Rinah Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2012.01.19 05:32:00 - [28] - Quote It doesn't make sense for a foreign company to complain or take a stance... what channels do they even have to influence USA domestic policy? Besides, I would think that the more foreign opposition they see to it, all the more strongly American legislators would support SOPA and PIPA just to spite them. I think now that the word is out and the public is more aware of what's at stake, these particular bills will either fail or be much curtailed. In the long run though, we'll likely have this kind of legislative fight every few years until the big media companies inevitably win. They have vast financial resources and the benefit of immortality; most voters have only spurts of indignation and the ability to write misspelled letters to the wrong congressmen.
Renturu Tribal Spirit Tribal Unity Alliance 133	Posted - 2012.01.19 05:42:00 - [29] - Quote Check out the supporters and their donations. Interesting... SOPA POS This Too If EvE WiS is Space Barbie, then I'm built like a Ken Doll: Nothin' but 14 inches of T'aint; Smooth, from front to butt!!!
Obax Bannon Fidelis Technologies 49	Posted - 2012.01.19 12:02:00 - [30] - Quote Christopher AET wrote: Could it be argued that this discussion is more legal than political. If so than surely we can chat here. In any case I am in UK and I have signed the petition urging the UK government to condemn SOPA. I encourage all members of all countries represented here to do the same. Could you link the petition or send me the url via evemail please

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