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RedLion
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.10 04:10:00 -
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I would love to be able to use repair drones on myself! I can't really see why we shouldn't be able to do that.
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Perry
Amarr The X-Trading Company Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.09.10 07:34:00 -
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RedLion
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.11 03:52:00 -
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Well last time i checked everyone could use drones
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James Duar
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.11 03:53:00 -
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If this went in then why shouldn't remote armor repairers work on the ship mounting them?
It won't and shouldn't happen for balance reasons.
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Gor Kraon
Minmatar Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.11 06:06:00 -
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Heh, why remote armor transfer yourself? Just slap on 4 remote cap transfers on a Domi and you get free cap (alot of it...). You don't need the high slots anyway.
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Rogerano
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Posted - 2007.09.11 07:02:00 -
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This isn't actually a bad _concept_. It makes sense. Why shouldn't your little robot friends be able to assist _any_ ship, including your own? As it stands you can rep enemy ships, which does not make sense. Not being able to have your own drones help your own ship is actually pretty silly when you think about it. From a gameplay perspective however, the added tank it would give is obviously a worry.
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Internet Knight
Caldari FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.11 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: James Duar If this went in then why shouldn't remote armor repairers work on the ship mounting them?
It won't and shouldn't happen for balance reasons.
Remote armor repairers shouldn't be able to repair the object to which they are mounted. Armor Maintenance Bots, however, are separate objects.
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Kempeth
Gallente Thunderbolts
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Posted - 2007.09.11 08:06:00 -
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I totally agree. It makes no sense that the only ship your drones *cannot* repair is your own. ---------------------------------------------- The glass is neither half full nor half empty. It's just twice as big as it need to be... |
zakina
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Posted - 2007.09.11 09:53:00 -
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sorry. I have to disagree allowing rep drones to rep the owner would make solo ships too strong, any ishtar, domi, or carrier/mothership would be invulnerabe! also any ship with a bonus to rep drones (logistic ships) would be impossible to take out withought taking all there dronez down. logistic ships have already shown how good they can be in the recent tourney... we don't want to make them more uber then they already are. an active repairing tank with most NO cap cost! too powerful.
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DeadRow
Dragonstar
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Posted - 2007.09.11 11:38:00 -
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Although it does 'make sense'. I believe it would become took overpowered for carriers and/or domis(I R domi user myself). I can perma run two LARIIs and then with 5 Heavy Bots with BSV bonus it would have a super tank. I like the way it is now, personally, and don't feel it should be changed. /DeadRow
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Valandril
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.09.11 12:54:00 -
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One word
Balance ---
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Orrorri
Order of Paradox
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Posted - 2007.09.11 15:13:00 -
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Perhaps an idea that could work more - is repair drones that are user only. There is repair systems and remote repair systems... sounds like instead of remote repair drones, you want non-remote repair drones (just "repair drones") ... I don't think the idea of non-remote repair drones is unbalancing. They are not likely to be used as much as remote repair drones, but i know some people would be interested.
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zakina
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Posted - 2007.09.11 16:40:00 -
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the only way I could go for repair drones would be if there was no way to use them to tank withought cost of cap. so either they suck your cap... or more radical would be you can't use then while under fire or shooting. they would be to patch up after fights (would be good for solo ganker that goes all dmg no tank to rep between engagements)
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Destineer
Gallente Caldari Navy Raiders Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.11 18:03:00 -
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people are saying that allowing repair drones to repair the user using them would over power ships like the Domi/Ishtar...how the hell would it?
These ships get drone bonuses, so they would increase a tank dramatically...but at the expense to a HELL of a lot of DPS...
you can currently only have 5 drones out in a non-carrier ship, so if you have 5 large armor rep drones out from your domi, what is there to do damage?...the blasters?
Sure, they'll do a bit of damage, but if you're using your drones to tank rather than attack, you're doing less than 50% capable dps unless you have very nice gunnery skills...
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Dark Hunterj
Gallente CodeManiaxx Ltd Sempiternus
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Posted - 2007.09.11 19:05:00 -
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At the moment having drones repair you're self is a bit hard to do because it's a bit hard to target you're self. BUT maybe with the new drone control system, that ccp promised in the last dev blog, we can use drones on ourselves (maybe even to engage and fire upon ourselves with combat drones. Now that should bring a new meaning to self destruct, and mutany).
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Petrothian Tong
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.11 19:11:00 -
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well, I doubt CCP will do it for solo play, since it was originally designed for gang/corp supporting each other..
doesnt hurt to try though, but I doubt they will change it.
Originally by: CCP Chronotis Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
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zakina
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Posted - 2007.09.11 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: zakina on 11/09/2007 19:18:11 the domi and ishtar get gun bonus also now with spare grid cpu and slot. if they could drone rep they could fit bigger guns and a dmg mod to compensate for loss of dmg. I know it won't do it all the way but I'd give my left nut for a completely passive armor rep tank :p
I fly ishtar and deimos and I'd love to have rep drones to use myself. but it would make the game unballanced.
Hell if they do allow it then hell yeah ill be working them into my setups.
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Dristra
Amarr Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.11 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Destineer people are saying that allowing repair drones to repair the user using them would over power ships like the Domi/Ishtar...how the hell would it?
These ships get drone bonuses, so they would increase a tank dramatically...but at the expense to a HELL of a lot of DPS...
you can currently only have 5 drones out in a non-carrier ship, so if you have 5 large armor rep drones out from your domi, what is there to do damage?...the blasters?
Sure, they'll do a bit of damage, but if you're using your drones to tank rather than attack, you're doing less than 50% capable dps unless you have very nice gunnery skills...
Overpowered is when the mega is using its 5 heavies to rep it while still fitting omg-man dps setup.
or any other non-drone boat that still get some drones, like the drake with light shield bots, that would boost its tank even more, the list goes on, and they can be insta-scooped if shoot at.
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Atasy Huopian
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Posted - 2007.09.11 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: zakina sorry. I have to disagree allowing rep drones to rep the owner would make solo ships too strong, any ishtar, domi, or carrier/mothership would be invulnerabe! also any ship with a bonus to rep drones (logistic ships) would be impossible to take out withought taking all there dronez down. logistic ships have already shown how good they can be in the recent tourney... we don't want to make them more uber then they already are. an active repairing tank with most NO cap cost! too powerful.
Drones can be targeted and easily killed.
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Grez
Minmatar Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.11 22:27:00 -
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Dominix, 2 LAR, 5 Heavy Armour Bots = LOL ---
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Andre Ricard
Gallente Templars of Space Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.09.12 05:06:00 -
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Edited by: Andre Ricard on 12/09/2007 05:06:24
Originally by: Dristra
Originally by: Destineer people are saying that allowing repair drones to repair the user using them would over power ships like the Domi/Ishtar...how the hell would it?
These ships get drone bonuses, so they would increase a tank dramatically...but at the expense to a HELL of a lot of DPS...
you can currently only have 5 drones out in a non-carrier ship, so if you have 5 large armor rep drones out from your domi, what is there to do damage?...the blasters?
Sure, they'll do a bit of damage, but if you're using your drones to tank rather than attack, you're doing less than 50% capable dps unless you have very nice gunnery skills...
Overpowered is when the mega is using its 5 heavies to rep it while still fitting omg-man dps setup.
or any other non-drone boat that still get some drones, like the drake with light shield bots, that would boost its tank even more, the list goes on, and they can be insta-scooped if shoot at.
exactly. I dunno why people are complaining about domi/ishtars with these. I'd be MUCH more worried about seeing a plated gank Mega/geddon with 5 heavy armor bots than a domi.
Even then, /signed
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Dillon Arklight
Unit 14
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Posted - 2007.09.12 08:05:00 -
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While it does seem improbable that you cant use repair drones on yourself the advantage they would give would upset the games balance to the extent that it would be unfair. It does seem a bit absurd but then again so does the idea that stations dont have windows to see who is waiting outside, but rather you have to undock to find out for yourself. But that's a discussion for another day.
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RedLion
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.13 03:36:00 -
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Well if domis would be too good, maybe put up restriction on some ships?
it's not illegal for ccp to balance.
Also as some here said, if a drone ship use repairdrones lose alot of dps.
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Andreya
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Posted - 2007.09.13 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Atasy Huopian
Originally by: zakina sorry. I have to disagree allowing rep drones to rep the owner would make solo ships too strong, any ishtar, domi, or carrier/mothership would be invulnerabe! also any ship with a bonus to rep drones (logistic ships) would be impossible to take out withought taking all there dronez down. logistic ships have already shown how good they can be in the recent tourney... we don't want to make them more uber then they already are. an active repairing tank with most NO cap cost! too powerful.
Drones can be targeted and easily killed.
not when they are zero meters away from your ship and just get scooped up when shot at, not to mention you can armou rrep them with a remote as well. if they changed this, it would change pvp and missioning... and well.. everything. i vote no
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kimish
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Posted - 2007.09.14 00:23:00 -
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YEEEEESSSS!!!!!! TY. should freaking be like that, makes NO sense whatever why you can't _____ _____ "When the moderators are gone, the trolls dances on the table." |
Zephyr Mallory
Limberry Aegis GmbH
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Posted - 2007.09.14 01:36:00 -
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It would be nice, yeah- there's no denying that.
However the reason CCP made it where they cannot affect you is because it would be so nice. Remember, CCP encourages social interaction with other players (read: pay for a second account), so they wouldn't do anything to eliminate the need for another ship.
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.09.14 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Zephyr Mallory It would be nice, yeah- there's no denying that.
However the reason CCP made it where they cannot affect you is because it would be so nice. Remember, CCP encourages social interaction with other players (read: pay for a second account), so they wouldn't do anything to eliminate the need for another ship.
I agree with that. Not that I agree with the reasoning--teaming up gives enough inherent advantages it's not necessary to reward it further--but I do think you're right.
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Arana Tellen
Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.14 03:51:00 -
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Repairing your own armor/shields gives a feeback loop on the communication system controlling the drones. There happy now? Since repairing yourself would mean they are close all the time you could just bring them in if they were shot and tank till doomsday ---------------------------------
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Glarion Garnier
Solar Wind
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Posted - 2007.09.16 21:54:00 -
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Well regardless of wheter CCP gives us the ability to repair our selves. Wich IMO is logical. I do wish for remote hull repair drones!
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Tonto Auri
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Posted - 2007.09.17 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Zephyr Mallory Remember, CCP encourages social interaction with other players (read: pay for a second account), so they wouldn't do anything to eliminate the need for another ship.
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