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Sleepkevert
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.17 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Valandril One word
Balance
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Dr Bernard
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Posted - 2007.09.17 18:02:00 -
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I dont see why allowing drones to rep yourself would unbalance the game. AFAIK ships don't get bonuses to drone repair so a Domi has no advantage over any other ship except for being able to field more drones. In this situation it equates to a longer death and nothing more.
As already mentioned, using drones to rep yourself simply shifts output DPS into defense. Repair drones aren't even that effective, 5 heavies can slightly outrepair a LAR II, thats not a big deal imo, think of the DPS lost.
All this would do is put more emphasis on micro managing drones and extend combat duration slightly. Its actually pretty difficult in most pvp situations to micro manage and if the guy(or girl) is competent enough to manage drones whilst also figuring how to take you down with next to no firepower he deserves to win.
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Andre Ricard
Gallente Templars of Space Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.18 05:44:00 -
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Originally by: Arana Tellen Repairing your own armor/shields gives a feeback loop on the communication system controlling the drones. There happy now? Since repairing yourself would mean they are close all the time you could just bring them in if they were shot and tank till doomsday
I hear if you tank Chribba's mining lasers for 24 hours you'll be rewarded with your own Veldnaught!!
For some funny reason though the servers seems to go down every 23hours, right before chribba gets his daily 1 hour nap.
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Kempeth
Gallente Thunderbolts
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Posted - 2007.09.18 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Bernard I dont see why allowing drones to rep yourself would unbalance the game. AFAIK ships don't get bonuses to drone repair so a Domi has no advantage over any other ship except for being able to field more drones. In this situation it equates to a longer death and nothing more.
As already mentioned, using drones to rep yourself simply shifts output DPS into defense. Repair drones aren't even that effective, 5 heavies can slightly outrepair a LAR II, thats not a big deal imo, think of the DPS lost.
All this would do is put more emphasis on micro managing drones and extend combat duration slightly. Its actually pretty difficult in most pvp situations to micro manage and if the guy(or girl) is competent enough to manage drones whilst also figuring how to take you down with next to no firepower he deserves to win.
I don't see the problem either. If someone wants to gimp their DPS for some more protection, what's so bad with that? It's exactly the same trade-off you have to do with module fittings as well.
True, they can swap their drones in and out to replenish their shields. But without Combat Drones they pose much less of a danger. And every tank can be broken. ---------------------------------------------- The glass is neither half full nor half empty. It's just twice as big as it need to be... |
Ernest Penfold
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Posted - 2007.09.29 23:22:00 -
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They should state in the info description that the drones are only good for your fellow ships. That way I would not have bought so many.
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Buyerr
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Posted - 2007.09.30 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Internet Knight
Originally by: James Duar If this went in then why shouldn't remote armor repairers work on the ship mounting them?
It won't and shouldn't happen for balance reasons.
Remote armor repairers shouldn't be able to repair the object to which they are mounted. Armor Maintenance Bots, however, are separate objects.
well yes then we need some new ones for this..
to every one else saying they shouldn't ... tehn why again can i remote rep them, but they can't remote rep me ?!
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Lavinrac Krad
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.30 03:07:00 -
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Everything you add to a MMORPG disturbs balance. The drone regions crashed mining, rigs created imbalances, etc...
To me saying this new feature "disturbs balance" is not a good reason for not implementing that feature. It is the job of the developers to add new features and "balance" the game. A MMORPG that no longer adds new features is dead and eventually vets get bored and noobs get lonely (because the vets are bored and leave).
As to the suggestion... How about new drones instead?
Armor Self-Repair drones that are slow and have a weak tank (can be one-shot with 2 or 3 small smart bombs). Armor Self-Repair drones will actually add a balance to armor tanking, in that armor tankers could then passive tank with drones like shield tankers can currently without drones.
And for shield tankers shield resistance amp drones (they are also slow and have a weak tank).
---- All I am saying is fear of imbalance and the dev's ability to correctly blance new features is bad.
1- It is bad because it creates subservient customers who would rather have a stagnant and dead game.
2- It assumes that developers are incompetent and do not have the ability to balance the new features they add. Developers are pretty bright people actually and are probably better served by challenging their abilities, not by limiting their ability to create.
--I know I know, you guys have been through UO, EQ, SWG (SWG was painful, dam SOE to hell!), etc and have been victimized by developers who goof up. Well I would say that where developers goof up is when they change the philosophy of their live MMORPG, not in the adding of new features.
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Buyerr
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Posted - 2007.09.30 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lavinrac Krad Everything you add to a MMORPG disturbs balance. The drone regions crashed mining, rigs created imbalances, etc...
To me saying this new feature "disturbs balance" is not a good reason for not implementing that feature. It is the job of the developers to add new features and "balance" the game. A MMORPG that no longer adds new features is dead and eventually vets get bored and noobs get lonely (because the vets are bored and leave).
As to the suggestion... How about new drones instead?
Armor Self-Repair drones that are slow and have a weak tank (can be one-shot with 2 or 3 small smart bombs). Armor Self-Repair drones will actually add a balance to armor tanking, in that armor tankers could then passive tank with drones like shield tankers can currently without drones.
And for shield tankers shield resistance amp drones (they are also slow and have a weak tank).
---- All I am saying is fear of imbalance and the dev's ability to correctly blance new features is bad.
1- It is bad because it creates subservient customers who would rather have a stagnant and dead game.
2- It assumes that developers are incompetent and do not have the ability to balance the new features they add. Developers are pretty bright people actually and are probably better served by challenging their abilities, not by limiting their ability to create.
--I know I know, you guys have been through UO, EQ, SWG (SWG was painful, dam SOE to hell!), etc and have been victimized by developers who goof up. Well I would say that where developers goof up is when they change the philosophy of their live MMORPG, not in the adding of new features.
screw that ! armour tank is already FAR supirior to shield tank in ANY aspect of pvp, so NO way shield tank should get some crappy amplifier bonus while tank gets a repairing drone..
what should be added is two new drones in 3 siezes small med large, one shield rep ands tank rep. done
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Nunarie
Jupiter Mining Corp. Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 21:35:00 -
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Signed - repair drones should be albe to rep your own ship. Look at this way I can either equip fighting drones, EW drones or logistic drones each has a trade off. If I want logistic drones running to make me a better tank I have to sacrifice running more fighter drones so I do less dmg. If I run EW drones than then I sacrafice both better tanking and dmg dealing. Everything has a trade off in this case and every race can use drones so it doesn't favor one race over the other.
Why would anyone argue against this.... people don't argue that gallente ships can throw out 5 Ogres while other races are limited to 4. |
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