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Aoki Ayumi
University of Caille Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.01.19 00:59:00 -
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C'mon... 500m for a PLEX? Are you mad? |

Lord Jita
Lord Jita's Big Gay Corp
19
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Posted - 2012.01.19 01:34:00 -
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You need some isk, son?
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Aoki Ayumi
University of Caille Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2012.01.19 01:56:00 -
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About 200m for paying 500 for a PLEX... :( |

Brock Nelson
299
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Posted - 2012.01.19 02:20:00 -
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Run some incursion I don't always like to modify my sell order but when I do, I like to spin my mouse wheel |

Xylorn Hasher
Mean Corp Mean Coalition
19
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:45:00 -
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Fanfest is the reason. Next year buy additional plexes earlier for that event to cover gametime for the months when PLEX prices hit the roof. Fool. |

Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
784
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:54:00 -
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Should hit 1B per plex. What else do you want to do with your free fast income? -stock pile it?
Noes, I want it to hit 1B so I can burn a lot of internet pixel spaceships for a few RL moneys. Besides, if you have nothing else to do of your journey even at 1B per plex you could still buy at least a good dozen per month. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
516
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Posted - 2012.01.19 09:20:00 -
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I can has PLEX for the 400mil sometimes maby few mill more.  |

Aine Ni
Some Really Meaningless Name
10
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Posted - 2012.01.19 09:45:00 -
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Seems that the player "drive" to have PLEX at less then 400m was a succes  |

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
175
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Posted - 2012.01.19 12:36:00 -
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Try ST:O, if you can't afford plex this month  FuzzWork Enterprises http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ Blueprint calculator and other 'useful' utilities. |

Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
46
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Posted - 2012.01.19 12:50:00 -
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MATH WARNING:
Titan = 80 bill Plex =400 mill = 15$
Titan 1 = 80bill/400mill * 15$ = 3000$
Titan = 80 bill Plex = 500 mill = 15$ Titan 2 = 80bill/500mill + 15$ = 2400$
Not sure if intended method was planed by CCP but directly affecting how much $$$ a titan is but....
(warning flowing text might contain fail logic)
1.) titan costs lov $$$ you dont buy it form Isk sellers you buy its with plexes (affects everything)
2.) temporary rise since a lot of accounts are on plexes do to initial low cost and now we are having peasant wars where people who make less then 2 bill a month are killing each others superscription slowly until an equilibrium is reached again and enough people cancel obsolete accounts.... (selling chars does not decrease number of overall accounts)
3.) random thing due to my grandmother going to the store 1 hour later then usual
4.) big boys are dooing it on purpose...
it you ask me i think its 4. My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range.
If i comment on your post you are probably not smart and should go back to playing WoW. |

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
53
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Posted - 2012.01.19 13:45:00 -
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even our newbies can make like 300m isk per month per character running pi in 0.0 and with slightly higher skills that's more like 500m/mo/character, so...
/care
sucks for the rest of you though... |

Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
48
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Posted - 2012.01.19 15:37:00 -
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corestwo wrote:even our newbies can make like 300m isk per month per character running pi in 0.0 and with slightly higher skills that's more like 500m/mo/character, so...
/care
sucks for the rest of you though...
Lol you are dooing pi Lol  My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range.
If i comment on your post you are probably not smart and should go back to playing WoW. |

Dzajic
55
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Posted - 2012.01.19 16:04:00 -
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Kagan Storm wrote:MATH WARNING:
Titan = 80 bill Plex =400 mill = 15$
Titan 1 = 80bill/400mill * 15$ = 3000$
Titan = 80 bill Plex = 500 mill = 15$ Titan 2 = 80bill/500mill + 15$ = 2400$
Not sure if intended method was planed by CCP but directly affecting how much $$$ a titan is but....
(warning flowing text might contain fail logic)
1.) titan costs lov $$$ you dont buy it form Isk sellers you buy its with plexes (affects everything)
2.) temporary rise since a lot of accounts are on plexes do to initial low cost and now we are having peasant wars where people who make less then 2 bill a month are killing each others superscription slowly until an equilibrium is reached again and enough people cancel obsolete accounts.... (selling chars does not decrease number of overall accounts)
3.) random thing due to my grandmother going to the store 1 hour later then usual
4.) big boys are dooing it on purpose...
it you ask me i think its 4.
Sorry there. Month of gametime is $15. Plex is $20. For everyone grinding isk and "playing EVE for free", CCP earns $5 more per month than from a regular subscription.
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Rasz Lin
43
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Posted - 2012.01.19 17:19:00 -
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Kagan Storm wrote:MATH WARNING:
Titan = 80 bill Plex =400 mill = 15$
Titan 1 = 80bill/400mill * 15$ = 3000$
Titan = 80 bill Plex = 500 mill = 15$ Titan 2 = 80bill/500mill + 15$ = 2400$
Not sure if intended method was planed by CCP but directly affecting how much $$$ a titan is but....
(warning flowing text might contain fail logic)
1.) titan costs lov $$$ you dont buy it form Isk sellers you buy its with plexes (affects everything)
2.) temporary rise since a lot of accounts are on plexes do to initial low cost and now we are having peasant wars where people who make less then 2 bill a month are killing each others superscription slowly until an equilibrium is reached again and enough people cancel obsolete accounts.... (selling chars does not decrease number of overall accounts)
3.) random thing due to my grandmother going to the store 1 hour later then usual
4.) big boys are dooing it on purpose...
it you ask me i think its 4.
yeah failed logic, if you buy PLEXes from CCP you introduce those plexes to the market and their value slightly dips, If you want to inflate PLEX price you go directly for Chinese/Russian BOT isk.
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Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
119
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Posted - 2012.01.19 19:26:00 -
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corestwo wrote:even our newbies can make like 300m isk per month per character running pi in 0.0 and with slightly higher skills that's more like 500m/mo/character, so...
/care
sucks for the rest of you though...
Wow nullsec PI sucks. |

Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
48
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Posted - 2012.01.19 19:34:00 -
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Rasz Lin wrote: yeah failed logic, if you buy PLEXes from CCP you introduce those plexes to the market and their value slightly dips, If you want to inflate PLEX price you go directly for Chinese/Russian BOT isk.
So reason for inflated PLEX price is Quote " Chinese/Russian BOT isk." end quote..... alto trit still cots 3.?? isk a unit.... roughly same as last year and year before that...
Sorry... that part of my logic is correct..... Plex inflated price cannot be blamed on overall inflation price cause the whole economy is not inflating.....
It has to do with plex itself.... It is the source of an event not everithing else causing it. Dynamic model.... My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range.
If i comment on your post you are probably not smart and should go back to playing WoW. |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1027
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Posted - 2012.01.20 01:45:00 -
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Aoki Ayumi wrote:C'mon... 500m for a PLEX? Are you mad? It was unavoidable due to the fact income levels for the bulk of players (highsec dwellers) have been steadily going up due to various changes and improvements made to the game in the more or less recent past, and the general population has been taking advantage of it more and more. Solution ? Nerf "easily accessible" and grind-based highsec income levels. In particular, incursion income, but also to some degree L4 mission income, and a tiny bit also PI, but only a tiny bit. Most of the other things are fine. If you do, PLEX price will come crashing down as less people can easily afford to pay that high price.
It's just supply and demand, afterall, and you can't exactly regulate the supply of PLEX directly (although the bulk purchase discount offers were a small step in that direction), you can only nudge the demand at a given price level. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributor_name:Akita_T#Contributions_link_collection |

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
53
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Posted - 2012.01.20 03:27:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:corestwo wrote:even our newbies can make like 300m isk per month per character running pi in 0.0 and with slightly higher skills that's more like 500m/mo/character, so...
/care
sucks for the rest of you though... Wow nullsec PI sucks.
I could make more but I get to touch my planets for two minutes a day and haul once a week this way with an amount that fits in a T1 hauler. Did I mention that part?
Kagan Storm wrote:corestwo wrote:even our newbies can make like 300m isk per month per character running pi in 0.0 and with slightly higher skills that's more like 500m/mo/character, so...
/care
sucks for the rest of you though... Lol you are dooing pi Lol  Not all of us can be RMTing botters. |

Brock Nelson
303
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Posted - 2012.01.20 03:43:00 -
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Kagan Storm wrote:corestwo wrote:even our newbies can make like 300m isk per month per character running pi in 0.0 and with slightly higher skills that's more like 500m/mo/character, so...
/care
sucks for the rest of you though... Lol you are dooing pi Lol 
And you're still stuck under the Russian's ass I don't always like to modify my sell order but when I do, I like to spin my mouse wheel |

Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings Situation: Normal
120
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Posted - 2012.01.20 04:26:00 -
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corestwo wrote: I could make more but I get to touch my planets for two minutes a day and haul once a week this way with an amount that fits in a T1 hauler. Did I mention that part?
Still seems low.
I have 2 alts (extra toon slots) with 8 days of training (iteron 3 with T2 expanders, CCU4, IC4, RS1) making about 600mil each. Takes about 2min total (mostly the time to log on and off twice) to have them import/export their stuff each day. Every 4 days about 20min to move raw materals to the factory planet. Haul out every few weeks.
Oh it is a wormhole, so my exit jumps around. But on average I get a nice exit once a week 10 or fewer jumps from Jita to get the best price, without having to haul it up from nullsec in a jump freighter or anything
Did I mention that? (sorry couldnt resist).
Either way, its all nice mostly passive isk |

enterprisePSI
Unimatrix 0.1
66
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Posted - 2012.01.20 10:51:00 -
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Is this the e pennis thread? I make 3 x times ur isk by logging once a day and updating 10 orders. O_O The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one.
-«enterprise-psi |

corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
53
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Posted - 2012.01.20 13:29:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:factory planet
Yeah, here's the difference...last time I ran factory planets it was in highsec and I touched them once a week, period. :p This requires near-zero capital expenditure, though, so its nice for our newbies and it leaves me to use my capital elsewhere.
Either way, I think the point is that we both have easy, low-effort, mostly-passive incomes on the side and can laugh at all the whiners.
enterprisePSI wrote:Is this the e pennis thread? I make 3 x times ur isk by logging once a day and updating 10 orders. O_O
Sure is a good thing that PI is a side-income specifically reserved for account maintenance rather than my primary income source, then.  |

Christina Trild
SkyNet Experiments
0
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Posted - 2012.01.20 22:54:00 -
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12 plexes bought at 350 waiting to go on sale   |

Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
25
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Posted - 2012.01.21 18:02:00 -
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PI gives 8 bil/month for 30 min average work per day.
@enterprisePSI How much ?
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Christina Trild
SkyNet Experiments
0
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Posted - 2012.01.21 21:21:00 -
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Invictra Atreides wrote:PI gives 8 bil/month for 30 min average work per day.
@enterprisePSI How much ?
WAIT WHAT ? I never bothered with PI and you are now telling me i could have made good isk? |

Mickov brat
Divinus Incrementum
15
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Posted - 2012.01.21 22:37:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Aoki Ayumi wrote:C'mon... 500m for a PLEX? Are you mad? It was unavoidable due to the fact income levels for the bulk of players (highsec dwellers) have been steadily going up due to various changes and improvements made to the game in the more or less recent past, and the general population has been taking advantage of it more and more. Solution ? Nerf "easily accessible" and grind-based highsec income levels. In particular, incursion income, but also to some degree L4 mission income, and a tiny bit also PI, but only a tiny bit. Most of the other things are fine. If you do, PLEX price will come crashing down as less people can easily afford to pay that high price. It's just supply and demand, afterall, and you can't exactly regulate the supply of PLEX directly (although the bulk purchase discount offers were a small step in that direction), you can only nudge the demand at a given price level.
I think that thats only one half of the problem. Other half is price of isk on black market. Atm u can buy 1b for 10e which is much cheaper than buying plex from ccp. Theres also the ease of boting in this game thanks to the belt rating and courier missions. It would be wery interesting to see what would happen if belt rats would stop spawning and if there wasnt any courier missions for a week.
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enterprisePSI
Unimatrix 0.1
66
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Posted - 2012.01.22 11:59:00 -
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Invictra Atreides wrote:PI gives 8 bil/month for 30 min average work per day.
@enterprisePSI How much ?
6bil per month, about 1min work per day 
fine, i ll do some PI too. The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one.
-«enterprise-psi |

Wookie 1
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.11 22:53:00 -
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Also who said the Market wasnt inflating, Trit just hit 4.6 a unit. Plex has kept goign and is at 520 and Drakes are 43 Million. (Yes, that is an unscientific basket of goods but still) |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
264
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Posted - 2012.02.11 23:40:00 -
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Edit: worst forums ever. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Spineker
148
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Posted - 2012.02.12 00:28:00 -
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You could always get a job and pay 14.95 a month or even less if you buy up a few months.
On an hour to hour ratio paying 14.95 is by far the better way of paying for a game. Take some people many hours to get 500 mil |

Alain Kinsella
96
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Posted - 2012.02.12 04:21:00 -
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Spineker wrote:You could always get a job and pay 14.95 a month or even less if you buy up a few months.
On an hour to hour ratio paying 14.95 is by far the better way of paying for a game. Take some people many hours to get 500 mil
I still believe the 'sweet spot' is the six month sub, its around $12/month. Yearly is cheaper, yes (hello Akita), but working off of 6-month intervals give you the opportunity to unsub on a bad release (which I did do on one account).
For SL I did yearly subscription, was OK (other than those devs making a sub pointless). Gametap I got F'd over badly doing that (long story), so on balance I'm not fond of yearly subs.
I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
677
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Posted - 2012.02.12 04:54:00 -
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Akita T wrote: Solution ? Nerf "easily accessible" and grind-based highsec income levels. In particular, incursion income, but also to some degree L4 mission income, and a tiny bit also PI, but only a tiny bit. Most of the other things are fine.
Nerfing things like PI (which is an ISK sink due to the tariffs unless you put up a POCO), is a stupid suggestion. I'm shocked that you would make that suggestion, Akita T, since you usually have a firm grip on faucet vs sink. All of the income from stuff like PI, mining, Loyalty Points, R&D agents comes from other players being willing to pay another player ISK for the item. If the players over-supply the market, people who do things like PI, R&D agent farming, etc. prices drop and those items are worth less per unit.
The only reason that player-supplied goods rise/fall is supply vs demand. A new FOTM pops up and people stop consuming one item and switch to consuming a different item. Which leads to temporary shortages and over-supply until the producers figure out that the winds have shifted and change what they make to meet the new demand.
If you want to lower inflation, look at things that generate magical ISK out of thin air, like the Incursion ISK reward, or mission rewards, insurance payout or rat bounties. Swap some of them for things that have to be sold to other players. Or add some new ISK sinks, or increase some existing ISK sinks.
Mostly, it's because there's a lot more ISK then there was 3-4 years ago. More ISK sitting in wallets, more ISK moving around between players as CCP has moved more of the economy towards being player-driven (less NPC sold goods), along with 3-4 years of non-stop mission rewards, rat bounties, anom payouts, whatever. Players are simply richer then they used to be and it's a lot easier to make 100M these days because of all the ISK sloshing around. |

Spineker
150
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Posted - 2012.02.12 07:30:00 -
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Well it is Akita.
His beliefs change with what ever he is doing. Plus it is a guy pretending to be a girl.
Ignore stupid Epeens. |

Spineker
150
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Posted - 2012.02.12 07:36:00 -
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I mean Akita is so stupid she would nerf missions more than they have been over the years. What we need to nerf is 0.0 and Low Sec and stop the elitist bullshit. They make isk hand over fist for very little work. They cuss highsec why? They rat on 5 million rats and whine their EPeen tears. **** them and their ignorant nonsense. |

Spineker
150
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Posted - 2012.02.12 07:38:00 -
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0.0 can make billions of isk with far less concern than highsec. To tell anyone otherwise is ********. It is free isk actually as far as risk vs reward there is no risk. Hell I could join a TardAlliance in 0.0 and make tons of isk with no risk at all. Don't believe the blow. |

Terri Sanders
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.02.12 10:30:00 -
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Xylorn Hasher wrote:Fanfest is the reason. Next year buy additional plexes earlier for that event to cover gametime for the months when PLEX prices hit the roof. Fool.
That's good advice. Do you think the prices will drop under 400 when the summer slump hits? |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
264
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Posted - 2012.02.12 12:11:00 -
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Terri Sanders wrote:Xylorn Hasher wrote:Fanfest is the reason. Next year buy additional plexes earlier for that event to cover gametime for the months when PLEX prices hit the roof. Fool. That's good advice. Do you think the prices will drop under 400 when the summer slump hits?
You can look at evemarketeer to know where price should go during next summer. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Demolishar
The 57th Overlanders
231
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Posted - 2012.02.12 13:51:00 -
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People need to stop panic-buying the PLEX because "OMG THEY WENT 10M LESS!!! BUYBUYBUY!" I mean 4500 orders filled because PLEX are at 475? WOW 475M BARGAIN HUH? No. **** off. If you just stop buying, the sellers will freak out that it's crashing, sell to the buy orders, everything will drop like a stone, and we will enjoy a nice cheap PLEX again. The market is at a rather precipitous point right now and it won't take much to make the prices drop again. But panicking like retards won't do that. |

Wookie 1
State Protectorate Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.12 14:01:00 -
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In reference to something Scrapyard Bob said a few posts back. Since when has it been easy to make 100 million ISk a day. Or on a slight tangent if I am missing something here, what in the hell is it?
Because seriously 15-20 Mill a day is most I have seen. Again might be me. |

Demolishar
The 57th Overlanders
232
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Posted - 2012.02.12 16:16:00 -
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Wookie 1 wrote:In reference to something Scrapyard Bob said a few posts back. Since when has it been easy to make 100 million ISk a day. Or on a slight tangent if I am missing something here, what in the hell is it?
Because seriously 15-20 Mill a day is most I have seen. Again might be me.
Since everyone had 15 alts. |
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