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Deva Blackfire D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.14 13:51:00 - [271] Originally by: dralid Go switch sides please, you are good at it Hm... when was the last time i swicthed "side"? :)
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.09.14 17:57:00 - [272] Originally by: Petite Pierre Originally by: Orree Edited by: Orree on 13/09/2007 05:33:31 Originally by: Petite Pierre stuff... If that's all you got from this thread, it doesn't speak well for your comprehension of the topics covered...but then again, maybe BNC just "rocks like that." Then again, if you didn't read it all (understandable), then you're probably not a great candidate to "sum things up." Nice one, either way. I did include a disclaimer there, and I was actually commending the wild trio for their spacely adventures. Why the need of flaming BNC?... I took your comments as sarcasm. It had been a long day, I was tired...worked a full day and had just gotten back from a 4-hour class session for my graduate statistics class. My reading comprehension was low and I was cranky. I generally don't flame. That was out of character for me, I think. Please accept my apology to you personally and to your corporation. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.09.14 18:01:00 - [273] Originally by: Laboratus Originally by: xBlood ... So in that regard the operation was a total success and we attained all our goals. Wasn't really a total success. You achieved your main goal of pulling M.Pire out of the south, but at a cost Few rzr caps were lost, if I remember correctly, and mainly due to the location of the war the rzr MS was also lost. I barely call that a total success It may well depend on what they set up as acceptable loses initially. Most succesful corps/alliances consider and advice their players that "be prepared to lose anything you undock" and that actually leads them to losing less... If this is the case here, they kept their loses well within the accepted loss margin... Losses were completely acceptable in that operation. What mattered was accomplishing a strategic goal and that was done. It isn't like we didn't inflict our own measure of damage and down several capital ships, as well. If I'm not mistaken, most of out losses were due to manned POS guns. We were among the first to dive into the fray after the patch that buffed them a few weeks back. We did so on patch day, even...heheh. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
Orree Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.09.14 18:10:00 - [274] Originally by: Marcuis Originally by: Laboratus Originally by: xBlood ... So in that regard the operation was a total success and we attained all our goals. Wasn't really a total success. You achieved your main goal of pulling M.Pire out of the south, but at a cost Few rzr caps were lost, if I remember correctly, and mainly due to the location of the war the rzr MS was also lost. I barely call that a total success It may well depend on what they set up as acceptable loses initially. Most succesful corps/alliances consider and advice their players that "be prepared to lose anything you undock" and that actually leads them to losing less... If this is the case here, they kept their loses well within the accepted loss margin... You guys also forgot to mention this when Rzr/MM/Tri and Co decide to attack BKG you brought 150 BS fleet to take out our cyno jammer, during the 2 days of attack you forgot to mention OUR Shreddor rock up 89 BS kills in 2 days due to many thnx of our gunners and support , quote me if Im wrong but 3 allainces losing 89 BS in 2 days is not a win Im not including the Dysnc or Lag issues Okay...I'm "quoting you" because you are wrong. No one is denying the losses. You're not going to engage in these activities without losses. As I just got done saying, it isn't like you didn't take losses as well. A battleship loss (even 89 of them spread out over a few alliances) is rarely devasting to anyone. I wouldn't read too much into any of that, to be honest. We certainly don't. We engaged in the operation with a primary strategic goal in mind and some secondary goals. The primary goal was met, and some, but clearly not all of the secondary goals were met. The fight that was started that week continues. It shifted fronts for a bit, but the hostilities still rage. Nothing is over. No one (with the possible exception of Fallen Souls) has ultimately failed, as yet. Even they continue to exist as an entity. They've just moved again. "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli
touchvill Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.14 18:17:00 - [275] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: dralid Go switch sides please, you are good at it Hm... when was the last time i swicthed "side"? :) Deva is brill. I love you Deva! ----------
Great Guardian Minmatar Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2007.09.14 20:01:00 - [276] Edited by: Great Guardian on 14/09/2007 20:00:51 Originally by: Graph ro Speaking of Fallen Souls, POS disorganization was there, for example 4 large towers were missing in k-8 and nobody told FS leadership they were removing them. Lesson learned, need just 1 trusted person in charge of all POS. But i must say, we lost all fleet battles, with strategy and tactics being decided by Fatal/Mpire, like the c-4 disaster. Another lesson learned. BKG faced a similar disaster a few weeks ago and it saddens me that while Fallen Souls helped regain control of BKG overnight (repping cynojammer, station services and ganking hostiles in system), we had no support in US Time zone from the coalition when we needed it in our home. Third lesson learned. Although we're moving out of Branch/Deklein, we're not disbanding. FS leadership has learned much, the carebear corps infesting FS will now leave, the organization is getting alot better. WoW... just WoW " I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Hah! Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams, glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments.... will
Biosman Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.09.14 23:57:00 - [277] Originally by: Delerium Primus Hehe nice post. One thing I do want to make clear though is that M. Pire were not given space. We earnt it. We had more capitals and players out on the field than MC for the taking of BKG/LXWN - so what constitutes earning a system? Drive. Commitment. That we had and thus the system is ours. Thanks for all the constructive replies :) Del I was there, Actually you remained in your pos's and only came out when MC/Petz was around,you didn't earn anything really,the only people in my sights during the whole war were MC/Aftermath/Fatal/Exuro Mortis/Corelum/Axiom/You What/Storm Armada,as for the "taking of BKG/LXWN" it was literally just that,after D2 had abandoned the systems. It would be better if you said... "MC our allies invited us North,and although the fighting was nearly over we saw an opportunity and took it,all we needed to do was bolster the numbers,help with our caps to shoot pos's and a couple of stations which would be given to us as reward,we don't care what people think if you don't like it make us leave" Certainly more towards the truth,and more respectable as you're not trying to pass it off that you made a significant contribution to the war,which raged for months from Fountain to Pure Blind to Fade to Deklein and finally Branch itself.
el Bodak M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.09.15 07:19:00 - [278] Edited by: el Bodak on 15/09/2007 07:20:55 Originally by: Biosman Originally by: Delerium Primus Hehe nice post. One thing I do want to make clear though is that M. Pire were not given space. We earnt it. We had more capitals and players out on the field than MC for the taking of BKG/LXWN - so what constitutes earning a system? Drive. Commitment. That we had and thus the system is ours. Thanks for all the constructive replies :) Del I was there, Actually you remained in your pos's and only came out when MC/Petz was around,you didn't earn anything really,the only people in my sights during the whole war were MC/Aftermath/Fatal/Exuro Mortis/Corelum/Axiom/You What/Storm Armada,as for the "taking of BKG/LXWN" it was literally just that,after D2 had abandoned the systems. It would be better if you said... "MC our allies invited us North,and although the fighting was nearly over we saw an opportunity and took it,all we needed to do was bolster the numbers,help with our caps to shoot pos's and a couple of stations which would be given to us as reward,we don't care what people think if you don't like it make us leave" Certainly more towards the truth,and more respectable as you're not trying to pass it off that you made a significant contribution to the war,which raged for months from Fountain to Pure Blind to Fade to Deklein and finally Branch itself. Isnt this what CPU and the rest of the folks taking FS space is doing now? They are filling in space that those who took it dont really want but took anyway for one reason or another and are trying to make something of it.
Snake Jankins Minmatar German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.09.15 09:08:00 - [279] Edited by: Snake Jankins on 15/09/2007 09:13:56 Originally by: Biosman It would be better if you said... "MC our allies invited us North,and although the fighting was nearly over we saw an opportunity and took it,all we needed to do was bolster the numbers,help with our caps to shoot pos's and a couple of stations which would be given to us as reward,we don't care what people think if you don't like it make us leave" Although it was directed at m.corp, the situation you describe is actually something I can live with. ( I must say I wasn't there during the first month after arrival in the north because of RL, so don't know the details. ) But I surely don't have any bad conscience about getting space from MC. MC&friends have conquered the space fair and square. Ok, MC has space and problems associated with it, they look for a solution and make you an offer, you discuss it within your alliance, pros and cons, you see the opportunities and the risks, compare it to your current situation, discuss in which direction you want to go as an alliance and come to the conclusion that such an opportunity is way to good not to take it. That's it already. I'd say as a young alliance with goals, you take the chances that bring you a step further. It's about chances and alliance development. Like others said, it's similar to the chances that other alliances took to build up. Deep 0.0 offers resources and serious alliance pvp with pos/capital stuff, requires better logistics, so a better environment to get experience and improve in those aspects. People should stick their insults elsewhere and just accept the fact that we have a different perspective on those things and shoot eachother. And yes, sorry for bumping this thread again. It's what happens, when boredom meets CAOD. ___________ I've never been so serious as I am now. No, really.
Galimiy Portret R.u.S.H. Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:54:00 - [280] Could we get an update? It's two weeks since OP. ...now in RED
xBlood Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:58:00 - [281] Originally by: Galimiy Portret Could we get an update? It's two weeks since OP. Obvious attempt at flame bait tbh. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Valorem ([email protected])
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:58:00 - [282] Edited by: End Yourself on 30/09/2007 12:06:27 Originally by: Galimiy Portret Could we get an update? It's two weeks since OP. /signed edit: Originally by: xBlood Obvious attempt at flame bait tbh. "Obvious attempt" at pointing out the OP's 'What do I care what I said yesterday'-motto tbh. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Ivor Gunn	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:59:00 - [283] Originally by: Galimiy Portret Could we get an update? It's two weeks since OP. An RA member trolling in CAOD? You've been spending far too much time with goons.
Katherine Marx Muff Diving	Posted - 2007.09.30 19:46:00 - [284] I support this thread.
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.30 20:48:00 - [285] Edited by: Martin VanBuren on 30/09/2007 20:48:01 So, in conclusion, a bunch of LV2 went north and, after taking large tracts of fine space from more powerful and skilled alliances, set themselves up in the choicest areas and occupied the fringe regions with press-ganged pets. Slowly, however, the aforementioned alliances returned, and with new strength and vigour began knocking out the buffer-zone pets one by one. And the finally, when confronted face to face by their antagonists, having no more blues to throw at them, LV2 collapsed within weeks and fell back hurdy gurdy to low-sec and Empire. Wait, what's going on here? This post feels so familiar, like I had made it just a few months earlier...Strange. Anyway, good luck in all of your future endeavors, and remember, if at first you don't succeed, try try again.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:01:00 - [286] Edited by: marakor on 30/09/2007 21:01:32 Originally by: Martin VanBuren Edited by: Martin VanBuren on 30/09/2007 20:48:01 So, in conclusion, a bunch of LV2 went north and, after taking large tracts of fine space from more powerful and skilled alliances, set themselves up in the choicest areas and occupied the fringe regions with press-ganged pets. Slowly, however, the aforementioned alliances returned, and with new strength and vigour began knocking out the buffer-zone pets one by one. And the finally, when confronted face to face by their antagonists, having no more blues to throw at them, LV2 collapsed within weeks and fell back hurdy gurdy to low-sec and Empire. I think it was M-pire in bkg bud so ex-ascn.
Orangir GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:01:00 - [287] Originally by: Delerium Primus You'll probably be thinking now after the pull back of one of our alliances, Fallen Souls, that M. Pire/FATAL/COW will shortly follow suit. All I can say, especially from the M.Pire side is, don't bank on it. Ahaha, grow a spine.
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:12:00 - [288] Originally by: marakor Edited by: marakor on 30/09/2007 21:01:32 Originally by: Martin VanBuren Edited by: Martin VanBuren on 30/09/2007 20:48:01 So, in conclusion, a bunch of LV2 went north and, after taking large tracts of fine space from more powerful and skilled alliances, set themselves up in the choicest areas and occupied the fringe regions with press-ganged pets. Slowly, however, the aforementioned alliances returned, and with new strength and vigour began knocking out the buffer-zone pets one by one. And the finally, when confronted face to face by their antagonists, having no more blues to throw at them, LV2 collapsed within weeks and fell back hurdy gurdy to low-sec and Empire. I think it was M-pire in bkg bud so ex-ascn. M. Pire Created by corporation M. Corp Command Created by Lenny Juice
Martin Mckenna The Older Vision.	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:20:00 - [289] Oh, FFS. Stupid RA Member
Digicomm 101st Space Marine Force	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:20:00 - [290] Wow Martin, without your insight I dont know if I would be infomed as well as I am. Thank-you for your brilliance. Pat on the back for you. /me passes cookie.
Life Machine Caldari Caldari Navy Raiders Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.10.01 00:35:00 - [291] don't give Martin cookies, he's only little...(in stature, and a bit in age...) you'll give him a sugar rush and he'll be as bad as he is with a drink in him...now I must say, EVERYONE should see that at some point, it hilarious. Also, people should check out http://www.gumpcom.com Scotland's LARGEST BYOC LAN event (there's lots of pictures for people to look at, haha)
Krall Amarr Aquilae Stellaris YouWhat	Posted - 2007.10.01 02:59:00 - [292] Edited by: Krall Amarr on 01/10/2007 03:37:36 Edited by: Krall Amarr on 01/10/2007 02:59:08 Originally by: Delerium Primus Edited by: Delerium Primus on 12/09/2007 07:44:30 Following this, Triumvirate began a move against our new allies, Fallen Souls. Sadly due to some disorganisation on POS maintenance, Fallen Souls lost some pos's and were contesting a station system in under 48 hours. Whilst M. Pire and its allies fully backed Fallen Souls, I'm extremely sad to say we were unable to help them due to this. Fallen Souls have now began to move out of Northern Deklien and North West branch - a fact that really saddens me. Quote: lol

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