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Jack Cannon STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:27:00 - [31] tbh anyone who allies with Xailus mark 3 (aka CPU) should be too ashamed to undock, should also cry about it on the forums and promptly cancel their account and give all of their stuff to me. I will make sure it goes towards ridding the galaxy of such an embarrassing organization. also This is my opinion and my opinion alone and in no way reflects that of thousands upon thousands of pod pilots throughout eve.
DeTox MinRohim Madhatters Inc. M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:31:00 - [32] Strange feeling of "DTja vu": MPIRE peeps - refrain from posting if you have nothing ~~intelligent~~ constructive to say. See you in space! ------ This sig space is Read-only ! omgalink - Online Skillsheet
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:35:00 - [33] Edited by: Cadiz on 12/09/2007 08:35:25 Originally by: putukas I cant picture a batlleplanning that i would ask alliance whos hostile to me to help fight against another hostile for 24h and then starting to shoot each other again... and even Morsus Mihi is ok with that? i respected them more a bit. From what I see, it's like this: RZR/MM/etc. like shooting TRI. TRI likes shooting RZR/MM/etc. However, both sides like shooting M.PIRE & Co. more than shooting each other, so occasionally they stop shooting each other and go after the third guy. When this is done, they go back to the mutual pewpew. It's a fluid relationship, and TRI strikes me as very good about making their intentions straightforward. Nobody has any unrealistic expectations about anybody else. I've personally seen surprisingly little blue-on-blue as a result of the entire thing, too. All in all, it seems to work rather well. I personally think it's a nice change of pace from the usual static war pacts...it's kinda amusing to log in and start sifting through channel topics to see if TRI is blue or not today. It's becoming something of a running joke in my corp, actually. ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Myz Toyou Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:36:00 - [34] Originally by: putukas Originally by: EVIL SYNNs I am no leader of TRI but just to make it clear. If you contacted TRI leadership and said. "Hay we're having a fight tonight, should be a lot of capital kills" there is a chance TRI will say "great we're on our way, we'll set you blue for 24 hours!". However as it looks like you were "given" your space (which I have no problems with at all) if you or Razor contacted us and said the same thing the chances are we will back Razor. However looking at our Kb's we still have killed more MM capitals than you have, more RAZOR capitals than you have. So to say we are Allies of Razor is not quite right, we just back the winning horse on the hope of getting some kills and then back to neut standing and back to killing we go. As the OP warns we don't want blues all around us and having to got 20 jumps for a kill. We want you next door, don't care who is next door, just be there. Its up to you (Fatal, MPire, COW et al) to stop us on the battle field, not on the forums. You know you can't win on the forums... No one can beat the TRI on the forums, each corp must have one troll, one flamer and one flamebait, its the only way into TRI. Hey, we have space perverts and forum warriors in our lines :D I understand your point of view and thanks for pointing this out. So basically razor and Co are the ones who cant handle fights by themselves and are crying help from tri all the time? Thats ammusing :D darn nublets :p I cant picture a batlleplanning that i would ask alliance whos hostile to me to help fight against another hostile for 24h and then starting to shoot each other again... and even Morsus Mihi is ok with that? i respected them more a bit. I sounds like you the only one who has a problem with this solution. I think Razor, MM and we enjoy it . If we would do the way you like it, we would be called the "new northern nap fest" witch we prefer to call you and your friends ( fewer every day ). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
KarateKid D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:41:00 - [35] Pretty decent recap :) Looking forward to the continued pew pewing to be had :D But can we please have more small skirmishes and less server pwning blobbage? ________________________________________________________
putukas Amarr Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:43:00 - [36] who said we want napfest. I dont wanna fly 20 jumps to get some fights either. CoW has always been pvp alliance and it will stay that way atlest as long as im in CoW. But i just dont understand this today blue tomorrow red today blue tomorrow red principle. I guess im too old fashioned or something Next time you write battlereport you should start it with something like this: "today we had nap with following alliances: alliance1 alliance2 etc, and we successfully did that and that"
Delerium Primus M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:43:00 - [37] Originally by: KarateKid Pretty decent recap :) But can we please have more small skirmishes and less server pwning blobbage? You got a date brother
KarateKid D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:44:00 - [38] Originally by: Delerium Primus Originally by: KarateKid Pretty decent recap :) But can we please have more small skirmishes and less server pwning blobbage? You got a date brother <3<3 ________________________________________________________
Space Harrier Minmatar Roman Holiday	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:44:00 - [39] Nice write up. It's always good to get some history down so everyone knows what's going on behind the scenes. GL to both sides and keep the smack down.
Faith Black Minmatar Rolls Roids	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:46:00 - [40] Originally by: Delerium Primus Interesting view isn't it. Its like the old days of a big blue blob across several regions. Only Triumvirate are out in Deklien looking quite vunerable against the powerhouse of the 'Old North'. Personally I think here you are wrong, although I wish it was true to make it a bit more difficult for TRI. The former north wasn't really known for conquering territory in their last year, so doubt that TRI is afraid of that situation. If it came to that situation, I think they would be able to make a non-pos war nap with the old north, while maintaining red standings for fun pvp. I mean, the old north was a big mutual defense pact to ensure safety and steadiness for carebearing and building up for a long time. For pvp the old north preferred to go on roadtrips south and such things, where they could have pvp without any impact on their home and those, who stayed there. With TRI in Deklein and the other alliances having the old-north-mentality, I assume there would only be some fun-fighting between them, but no real attempts to challenge TRI for their territory. It wouldn't be good for stability and their wallets. But what do I know ... I'd post with a char, who's involved in this, but doubt that an analysis like this is appreciated, although it may be true.
Graph ro Aquilae Stellaris Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:50:00 - [41] Speaking of Fallen Souls, POS disorganization was there, for example 4 large towers were missing in k-8 and nobody told FS leadership they were removing them. Lesson learned, need just 1 trusted person in charge of all POS. But i must say, we lost all fleet battles, with strategy and tactics being decided by Fatal/Mpire, like the c-4 disaster. Another lesson learned. BKG faced a similar disaster a few weeks ago and it saddens me that while Fallen Souls helped regain control of BKG overnight (repping cynojammer, station services and ganking hostiles in system), we had no support in US Time zone from the coalition when we needed it in our home. Third lesson learned. Although we're moving out of Branch/Deklein, we're not disbanding. FS leadership has learned much, the carebear corps infesting FS will now leave, the organization is getting alot better.
Trustus Dragons Of Redemption Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:56:00 - [42] Let me first remind you guys that this game is ALL about diplomacy and tactics, specially if you leave in 0,0. Please dont start talking a lot of crap, the bottom line is that both FS and you guys have rcvd a lot of damage in the recent figths and now you are trying to blame or find excuses for what have happend. I mean ** happends and the situation you guys are were/are in is a situation that you cant handle, our diplomats, together with RZR, MM diplomats or what whom ever we have been in contact with have done their work WELL. We all make deals for our own benefit in order to reach our own goals. Our goal is to have fun and have fights, if RZR and MM invited us to fight and have fun is to bad for you, we cant help you are the targets. This post is not in anyway bull** or smacktalk, is just my own view of the situation. And i just would like to thank both sides for all the good figths we had and of course will have. /T ps! Sorry for any spelling errors.
Delerium Primus M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.09.12 08:57:00 - [43] Originally by: Graph ro Speaking of Fallen Souls, POS disorganization was there, for example 4 large towers were missing in k-8 and nobody told FS leadership they were removing them. Lesson learned, need just 1 trusted person in charge of all POS. But i must say, we lost all fleet battles, with strategy and tactics being decided by Fatal/Mpire, like the c-4 disaster. Another lesson learned. BKG faced a similar disaster a few weeks ago and it saddens me that while Fallen Souls helped regain control of BKG overnight (repping cynojammer, station services and ganking hostiles in system), we had no support in US Time zone from the coalition when we needed it in our home. Third lesson learned. Although we're moving out of Branch/Deklein, we're not disbanding. FS leadership has learned much, the carebear corps infesting FS will now leave, the organization is getting alot better. Im sorry you feel this way Graph, as i had said earlier i was deeply saddened by the news. Although i don't think that its fair for you to say your allies were responsible for the outcome. Del
Graph ro Aquilae Stellaris Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.09.12 09:03:00 - [44] Originally by: Delerium Primus Originally by: Graph ro Speaking of Fallen Souls, POS disorganization was there, for example 4 large towers were missing in k-8 and nobody told FS leadership they were removing them. Lesson learned, need just 1 trusted person in charge of all POS. But i must say, we lost all fleet battles, with strategy and tactics being decided by Fatal/Mpire, like the c-4 disaster. Another lesson learned. BKG faced a similar disaster a few weeks ago and it saddens me that while Fallen Souls helped regain control of BKG overnight (repping cynojammer, station services and ganking hostiles in system), we had no support in US Time zone from the coalition when we needed it in our home. Third lesson learned. Although we're moving out of Branch/Deklein, we're not disbanding. FS leadership has learned much, the carebear corps infesting FS will now leave, the organization is getting alot better. Im sorry you feel this way Graph, as i had said earlier i was deeply saddened by the news. Although i don't think that its fair for you to say your allies were responsible for the outcome. Del The main reponsability is of course in Fallen Souls, i didn't mean to find excuses or blame someone else for it.
Hei'di D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.12 09:07:00 - [45] Nice written statement/roundup. Finally we got a serious post in the ***house called CAOD! Though I don't share ur opinions presented in the "Furture Scenario", I see interessting times impending to us. No matter which way it turns, we'll get a lot to shoot... cheers Originally by:** Graph ro Speaking of Fallen Souls, POS disorganization was there, for example 4 large towers were missing in k-8 and nobody told FS leadership they were removing them. Lesson learned, need just 1 trusted person in charge of all POS. But i must say, we lost all fleet battles, with strategy and tactics being decided by Fatal/Mpire, like the c-4 disaster. Another lesson learned. BKG faced a similar disaster a few weeks ago and it saddens me that while Fallen Souls helped regain control of BKG overnight (repping cynojammer, station services and ganking hostiles in system), we had no support in US Time zone from the coalition when we needed it in our home. Third lesson learned. Although we're moving out of Branch/Deklein, we're not disbanding. FS leadership has learned much, the carebear corps infesting FS will now leave, the organization is getting alot better. Good example how the improvement of an alliance can take place...
Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.09.12 09:37:00 - [46] Edited by: Sinder Ohm on 12/09/2007 09:41:35 Honest story with no smack In the end I beleive you will be evicted though and I can tell you why. All of those who fight you are fighting to get thier home back (Branch). So we could actually use the same quote from Wallace. You may have killed the old horse D2 and ocupied its old home. But I assure you we arent dead and we want our home back . Heres to lag free fights in the future. edit: didnt want my post to come over as smack or provacating. Originally by: Karanth Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
putukas Amarr Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.09.12 09:38:00 - [47] Originally by: Trustus Our goal is to have fun and have fights, if RZR and MM invited us to fight and have fun is to bad for you, we cant help you are the targets. Heh, you are saying exactly opposite what some of your member said on the last page. We dont want your help i would like to see you decission are you neutral or against us or with us or maybe some other option in this war. some of you are saying you are neutral and are killing everybody tho it's total bs. Some of you are saying you are temperory nap'd with rzr and co tho most of the blobfest you are in it. clear statement from your leader should clear up some stuff. Then we can realy see how many we have against us and who our real friends are. hint /me looks bob's blue standing list
Kirah Ovai Altcenaries	Posted - 2007.09.12 09:45:00 - [48] I must have missed the part where you actually announced something...
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.09.12 09:46:00 - [49] Originally by: Delerium Primus You'll probably be thinking now after the pull back of one of our alliances, Fallen Souls, that M. Pire/FATAL/COW will shortly follow suit. All I can say, especially from the M.Pire side is, don't bank on it. Not all your fault or anything, but yeah, you will. Old north coordination & teamwork > new north coordination and team work. Like I say, that's not all youre fault or anything, just the reality of the situation. Not much you can do about it at this point. Because of this, someone else will own bkg by the end of the month. Gunship - How's that zone defense working out for ya? ------>PҼſϚի<------
Space Harrier Minmatar Roman Holiday	Posted - 2007.09.12 09:49:00 - [50] BITTER MUCH!!!!???
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.09.12 09:52:00 - [51] Originally by: Space Harrier BITTER MUCH!!!!??? At least I'm not a coward hiding behind an alt.
EVIL SYNNs Minmatar The Illuminati. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.12 10:00:00 - [52] Originally by: Graph ro Speaking of Fallen Souls, POS disorganization was there, for example 4 large towers were missing in k-8 and nobody told FS leadership they were removing them. Lesson learned, need just 1 trusted person in charge of all POS. But i must say, we lost all fleet battles, with strategy and tactics being decided by Fatal/Mpire, like the c-4 disaster. Another lesson learned. BKG faced a similar disaster a few weeks ago and it saddens me that while Fallen Souls helped regain control of BKG overnight (repping cynojammer, station services and ganking hostiles in system), we had no support in US Time zone from the coalition when we needed it in our home. Third lesson learned. Although we're moving out of Branch/Deklein, we're not disbanding. FS leadership has learned much, the carebear corps infesting FS will now leave, the organization is getting alot better. And THERE it is! CAOD wins again! Look at my first post on the first page I said.. FS will come here and "say where were you allies, you let us down!". And they did (post I mean), I don't know if they did or didn't let you down(never seen any when we captured the deklien systems) but THIS is why you don't do alliances with alliances' , every one alliance has their own priorities, their own systems, their own ISK making to do. Why should they care for you. Cause they will be next (they worry about that, so they make more ISK to defend their self not you). Anyway, FS it was short and sweet, your still neut to us, so best take the long way home. NO SIG REQURIED
Space Harrier Minmatar Roman Holiday	Posted - 2007.09.12 10:01:00 - [53] Hmmm let me think what reason you might have for being bitter... Ahh yes, T1TS.
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.09.12 10:06:00 - [54] Originally by: Space Harrier Hmmm let me think what reason you might have for being bitter... Ahh yes, T1TS. fantastic work detective. Next case: Why are you too much of a *** to post with your main? Grow some stones and post with your real character, or be ignored from this point on. goodbye ------>PҼſϚի<------**
Galimiy Portret R.u.S.H. Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.12 10:06:00 - [55] Lapdogs... Lapdogs, all of you! ...now in RED
Einheriar Glad FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.12 10:18:00 - [56] Thx for well written partially official announcement. Good work to RZR & co, and good luck to FL in the future. - Glad -------------------------------------------------- Keep your CAOD clean
Groox Cult of War	Posted - 2007.09.12 10:20:00 - [57] Edited by: Groox on 12/09/2007 10:22:15 Edited by: Groox on 12/09/2007 10:21:21 Edited by: Groox on 12/09/2007 10:21:05 I wonder will we ever see Tri sieging any RzR/MM system in attempt to take over it? I think you should do it for at least once so we doubters can shut up and CAOD will be nice place once again. btw. nice write up indeed, OP
Cadiz Caldari No Quarter. Vae Victis.	Posted - 2007.09.12 10:24:00 - [58] Originally by: Groox I wonder will we ever see Tri sieging any RzR/MM system in attempt to take over it? I think you should do it for at least once so we doubters can shut up and CAOD will be nice place once again. btw. nice write up indeed, OP Back when TRI was still based in Venal and before the MC pain train had finished mopping up D2, they helped T1TS in its initial abortive attempt to take OE-4 from RZR. That qualify? ------ Director, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence."
Mr Trade	Posted - 2007.09.12 10:31:00 - [59] This is silly for several reasons: 1) You still fail to understand the relationship between MM/RZR and TRI. It's pretty simple, I think you even do understand, you just fail to write it for propaganda reasons. 2) You don't even know who controlled what before MC steamrolled Branch/Tenal. Razor in northern Branch... wtf? CPU or their member corps existing at all up here? Yeah, nice try. Iron not in Deklein? MM in southern Branch? You're on *****, chief. 3) People don't call you pets because they think you're controlled by BoB or MC. They call you pets for two other reasons. The first reason is that there really isn't a popular term used to describe people who are individually controlled, but still always seem to take the lead of another power, namely BoB in this case. The second is that you would never be where you are without MC, for the simple fact that you guys have only ever twice jumped into a hostile fleet. Once in JRZ versus Razor BS gang with your own support-only fleet, and once in C-4, where you were too lagged to fight (not your fault). Without MC's cajones, you'd still be pirating freighters.
Meriones The Singularity Project	Posted - 2007.09.12 10:32:00 - [60] People should care less about Triumvirate's politics and more about refueling their POS's with strontium. Lets hope GM's will reinforce the NOD before the battles. Good luck to everyone.

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