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Gerod Theron
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.19 04:42:00 -
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I am a returning player and thinking about starting fresh.
Do to either some OCD I can't bring my self to cross train races. Yeah i know it puts me at a disadvantage, but what ever.
So what race would you choose if you could only choose one? |

Jesus Rambo
Friendship is Magic The Laughing Men
34
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Posted - 2012.01.19 05:23:00 -
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Caldari or Minmatar, depends on if you like PvE or PvP more. Both can do either, though. |

Palladias
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.19 05:44:00 -
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I started with caldari, but if I had to do it again i'd go amarr without batting an eyelash. Now that I can fly most amarrian ships well they're just about all I fly. There's a ship for every occasion and they seem to fit my playstyle like a glove.
Solo roaming pvp: pilgrim, slicer, or arbitrator if i'm feeling cheap Small gang pvp: harbinger, oracle, curse Fleet pvp: Abaddon, Guardian
Missions: Paladin, smokes **** so fast even angels can't slow me much, prior to that I used a Navy Apoc Incursions: Abaddon, Guardian W-space: Abaddon, Guardian, Legion Exploration: Pilgrim for lowsec, legion for highsec
The armor vs. shield metagame flips back and forth a lot, so if you do sink heavily into amarr or caldari you will find yourself odd-man out at times, but i've found over the years amarr shoe-horns itself into the smaller shield gangs much better than any caldari ship can be faux-plated into an armor fleet.
It is, of course, a matter of taste. If you hate slow ships or being picky about what you engage in your solo roams then amarr will probably disappoint you. That said, if you can appreciate their strengths and capitalize on them, rather than wishing you were minmatar all the time (a common issue on these boards), you will have lots of fun. |

Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2012.01.19 05:58:00 -
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Minmatar. You can use just about any damage type, use guns or missiles, run with armor or shield gangs, and be exceptionally good at both pve and pvp. |

Exploited Engineer
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.19 07:17:00 -
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Fronkfurter McSheebleton wrote:Minmatar. You can use just about any damage type, use guns or missiles, run with armor or shield gangs, and be exceptionally good at both pve and pvp.
Jacks of all trades ... and masters, too. |

Liam Mirren
187
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Posted - 2012.01.19 07:33:00 -
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Sadly, Minmatar is the right answer (not sad because it's Minmatar but rather that there IS an answer). As others stated, damage type seelction, capless weapons, easy fitting, speed, versatility. Also, CCP has a hardon for Minnie (and amarr for that matter). If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. |

King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
148
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Posted - 2012.01.19 07:45:00 -
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I disagree with that, minmatar are a jack of all trades, but calling them masters is a bit over the top. They are masters of nano, everything else they are good at, but not great. Not saying they are bad at all, they have a great lineup of ships from frigs all the way to normal capitals. But amarr do have a solid advantage in armor tanking while caldari generally have better shield tanks.
If I were to start over today with a clean slate, I'd go gallente. I suspect amarr or caldari would be better suited to you however. My reasons for choosing gallente are my interests have gone back to solo pvp and low sec exploration. The ishtar is the undisputed master of exploration and when it comes to solo pvp, you either need to kite them or simply vaporize them in 30s or less. I've tried the kiting style and had to let far too many people go because their buddies showed up before i could finish the job. So now it's 1100 dps navy vexor time. That said, the arazu/lach kites pretty damn well as do some of their other ships. |

Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
86
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Posted - 2012.01.19 07:53:00 -
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Don't pick one, you will only be disappointed. All races have there ups and downs. You should be flying what you need not what you think you should stick to.
If you have to pick one, pick a pirate race and pretend its not cross training but a longer and harder split skill to learn |

A'Brantox Foson
14
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Posted - 2012.01.19 07:53:00 -
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If it's racist to hate the vatican, well then i'm a racist.
Minmatar
(if i could choose 2, minmatar and amarr) |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
644
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Posted - 2012.01.19 07:58:00 -
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Gallente or Caldari... Caldari probably. Its a tough call though. :|
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
86
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:02:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Gallente or Caldari... Caldari probably. Its a tough call though. :|
-Liang Listen to Liang fly Gurista's |

Khrage
62
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:10:00 -
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Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:Don't pick one, you will only be disappointed. All races have there ups and downs. You should be flying what you need not what you think you should stick to. If you have to pick one, pick a pirate race and pretend its not cross training but a longer and harder split skill to learn 
^this. esspecially since training two races covers almost anything you would want to do. plus gain pirate ship options. but really, you shouldn't start over - really. skill points are skill points. |

Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
86
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:31:00 -
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King Rothgar wrote:If I were to start over today with a clean slate, I'd go gurista. I suspect amarr or caldari would be better suited to you however. My reasons for choosing gurista are my interests have gone back to solo pvp and low sec exploration. The Gila is the undisputed master of exploration.
fixed |

Jazelle Hazaad
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:43:00 -
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First Pick: Caldari. Reason: Tengu.
Second Pick: Gallente Reason: Armor sucks, but drones are nice.
Third Pick: Amarr Reason: Armor sucks, but lasers are ok.
Would not even consider: Minmatar Reason: Fotm and long over-due for nerfs |

Frozen Fallout
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:44:00 -
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I have to agree spreading your self out to two or more races is a good idea. Having some options really helps out your options and allows you to be more flexible in fleets.
One thing I would suggest is to get into a good corp and see what they fly. Many good 0.0 corps have standard fits and ship types they use. So if you join up with a good corp it will be very apparent what you should start skilling for. But if your looking to be a solo pilot doing PvE in empire just train up a Raven and make your isk :P. |

King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
148
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:47:00 -
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Actually I've been flying guristas stuff too. The rattlesnake is winsauce and so is the worm. In fact, the rattlesnake is a better maelstrom than the maelstrom. I'm sure the gila is pretty good too but I just can't get beyond the hideous ship model. On the other hand, I've always found the vexors to among the better looking ships in eve, especially now with the new skins. |

Jazelle Hazaad
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.01.19 08:48:00 -
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Frozen Fallout wrote:I have to agree spreading your self out to two or more races is a good idea. Having some options really helps out your options and allows you to be more flexible in fleets.
One thing I would suggest is to get into a good corp and see what they fly. Many good 0.0 corps have standard fits and ship types they use. So if you join up with a good corp it will be very apparent what you should start skilling for. But if your looking to be a solo pilot doing PvE in empire just train up a Raven and make your isk :P.
Yeah, forget what you want to fly or like to fly. Just fly what big brother says is the new fleet doc. That's a sure fire way to feel good about your [lack of] choice. 
I'm not knocking alliance warfare. I've been there and enjoyed myself. I just take issue with anyone who thinks being told what to train down to the exact ship is good for newbs. There's a diffirence between helpful direction (eve uni, agony) and you will fly X, Y, or Z for fleets (most other alliances with a rigid fleet doc). |

Jenny Cameron
Ordo Eventus Inception Alliance
31
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Posted - 2012.01.19 09:41:00 -
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Jazelle Hazaad wrote:First Pick: Caldari. Reason: Tengu.
/seconded
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Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
87
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Posted - 2012.01.19 09:44:00 -
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King Rthgar you apologise to the duck with a purse, that is mean. Poor moa crying in it's purse.
Jazelle Hazaad your a forum alt so ............
Flying with a group and seeing what and how they fly is one of the best ways to get a feel for some thing with little investment. after you see some ships in the sky try a few out.
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Wacktopia
Noir.
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Posted - 2012.01.19 09:58:00 -
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inb4 Goose99 . |

Jazelle Hazaad
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.19 09:59:00 -
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Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:King Rthgar you apologise to the duck with a purse, that is mean.  Poor moa crying in to it's purse.  Jazelle Hazaad your a forum alt so ............  Flying with a group and seeing what and how they fly is one of the best ways to get a feel for some thing with little investment. After you see some ships in the sky try a few out.
Hey babe, why you gotta be like that?
We're all fat nerds here, it's ok. |

Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
87
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Posted - 2012.01.19 10:32:00 -
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@OP what did your old main fly? what do you dislike about them?
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Misina Arlath
Sinister Elite
2
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Posted - 2012.01.19 11:36:00 -
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I started with Caldari way back when.
Changed to Amarr back when everyone said Amarr was crap due to too much dependancy on cap for their laser system (and the "loss" of a ship bonus on alot of ships due to the reduction in cap usage bonus many of them get). I'm a bit of an anti-mainstream person and always love underdogs. Granted, now Amarr are far from underdogs anymore.
Anyways, I stuck with Amarr and totally love their ships. Strong, reliable and overall great ships with a nice selection of decent ships for different roles. The only useless Amarr ships I know of are the Augoror, Prophecy and (arguably) the Retribution and Coercer (due to their one medslot issue). Besides those the Amarr has a very nice ship lineup.
Lately though I have crosstrained to Minmatar, which has been fun as well although I prefer the survivability that Amarr has. Not saying Minmatar doesn't have survivability, they do in plenty, but if you get bogged down in an Amarr ship you can still take a pounding before you burn.
For me the choice is simple.
If I have to choose one race only, Amarr all the way.
Tougher question would be... what if you could choose only one ship? Curse maybe... or... hmm... Harbinger... or Absolution! |

King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
148
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Posted - 2012.01.19 11:51:00 -
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Jazelle Hazaad wrote:
I must assume from this you know of the torpsnake rat-melter. Please do not spread word of it, lest people start driving the price of my beloved rattler up. TIA.
Nope, never occurred to me to use one like that. I was thinking more in line with high grade crystals, a tengu booster, blue pill and web+scram. Sadly this toon doesn't have the skills to fly it properly... yet.
And no, I will not apologize to the moa. |

Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
347
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Posted - 2012.01.19 12:30:00 -
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Gallente. More buffs are still coming, and they have a strong line of both pvp and pve ships. and maxing out drone skills first will serve you well. |

Red Teufel
Blackened Skies THE UNTHINKABLES
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Posted - 2012.01.19 14:08:00 -
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gallente ftw |

Bent Barrel
7
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Posted - 2012.01.19 14:14:00 -
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How about ship class instead of race restriction ? I started a new account (this one) and told myself that I won't set pod into anything larger than a frigate (ok I was flying a vexor for a bit :-))).
Plenty of options in frigates alone for everything.
But Gallente is my first choice because I love drones. |

Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
347
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Posted - 2012.01.19 14:29:00 -
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in that case, take a couple of months to max out the Ishtar or the Domi, and you'll happily pve through pretty much anything. i went Ishkur --> Domi --> Ishtar --> Mega and was happy with my choices. |

Garr Earthbender
Quantum Cats Syndicate
32
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Posted - 2012.01.19 16:41:00 -
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I'm glad I chose to focus on Amarr! I did choose to go over to Minnie for the rifter and DO have T2 small guns, but DANG I love flying Amarr!
Punisher- tank is good and speed is good enough, better than average small gun range with scorch.
Arbitrator- Jack of many trades. T1 neut ship, TDs FTW, can have multiple flights of drones, can fit armor or nano (although nano ignores the awesome TD bonuses.
Maller- Good bait ship, GREAT at breaking up plexing warp in camps (Faction War and all that). Can acttually be fit for surprise DPS as well.
Harbinger- Overall decent small gang ship, again, better than average gun range due to scorch.
Oracle- The true nano BC. Hell, it's even decently fast with a plate on it. 60km optimal range FTW.
I haven't used the BSs too much since that doesn't fit into small/medium sized gangs too well and that's what I'm running with recently. Can't wait though! |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
317
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Posted - 2012.01.19 17:17:00 -
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I'm surprised at how little "winmatar winmatar CCP loves winmatar" is in this thread. I expected much more of a trollfest.
If I were to start over, I would pick either Minmatar or Amarr... hard to decide. If I had to pick just one and not crosstrain, it would definitely be Minmatar, though. |

Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
198
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Posted - 2012.01.19 17:50:00 -
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Winmatard by far , it is good/best in everything not like other races ... :( sniping --> winmatar roaming-->winmatar solo --> winmatar is 1st or 2nd high end pve --> winmatar what else do you want?
winmatar winmatar win win |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
317
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Posted - 2012.01.19 17:54:00 -
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Naomi Knight wrote:Winmatard by far , it is good/best in everything not like other races ... :( sniping --> winmatar roaming-->winmatar solo --> winmatar is 1st or 2nd high end pve --> winmatar what else do you want?
winmatar winmatar win win No idea wtf you're talking about.
Sniping - Minmatar is only any good if you need alpha. If you need DPS, it's Amarr, and range is Caldari Roaming - Minmatar does have an edge due to faster ships (particualrly Vagabond), but not best by any means Solo - All races have very good solo ships PvE - Are you smoking? This is Caldari all the way.
I do hope you were trolling. |

Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
198
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Posted - 2012.01.19 18:14:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Naomi Knight wrote:Winmatard by far , it is good/best in everything not like other races ... :( sniping --> winmatar roaming-->winmatar solo --> winmatar is 1st or 2nd high end pve --> winmatar what else do you want?
winmatar winmatar win win No idea wtf you're talking about. Sniping - Minmatar is only any good if you need alpha. If you need DPS, it's Amarr, and range is Caldari Roaming - Minmatar does have an edge due to faster ships (particualrly Vagabond), but not best by any means Solo - All races have very good solo ships PvE - Are you smoking? This is Caldari all the way. I do hope you were trolling. smoking is for dumbies like you sniping - today sniping is all about alpha no range or dps ---> go winmatar solo --> altogeather minmatar is way more favoured than caldari or amarr pve-- caldari rly?? only noobs think missiles is the way to go , only good for low sp/experience beginner players like you , turrets are way better especially if it is mounted on vargur or machi |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
317
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Posted - 2012.01.19 18:29:00 -
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Naomi Knight wrote: smoking is for dumbies like you sniping - today sniping is all about alpha no range or dps ---> go winmatar solo --> altogeather minmatar is way more favoured than caldari or amarr pve-- caldari rly?? only noobs think missiles is the way to go , only good for low sp/experience beginner players like you , turrets are way better especially if it is mounted on vargur or machi
Alpha sniping is simply a flavor of the month. It does not mean that other forms don't work. For example, PL is using sniper Rokhs for fleet ops. Solo: Harbinger, Pilgrim, Curse, Vengeance, Arbitrator, Slicer, Myrmidon, Ishtar, Taranis, Ishkur, Enyo, Tristan, Comet, Thorax, Vexor, Dominix, Drake, Caracal, Moa (Yes, I said Moa), Cerberus, Harpy, Hookbill, Merlin, Kestrel, Griffin. I do not see your point. PvE: Tengu is totally not the most popular high level PvE ship. Not at all.
But no, please, keep giving bad advice and insulting others' experience while you post with a glorified forum alt. |

Kagan Storm
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
48
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Posted - 2012.01.19 19:28:00 -
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Ore ships....
You have an indi ore ship now....  My ego is the the size of my carriers jump range.
If i comment on your post you are probably not smart and should go back to playing WoW. |

Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
58
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Posted - 2012.01.19 19:50:00 -
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Amarr is a pain in the royal rump at first (Amarr ships stress support skills HARD), but smooths out very nicely as you get higher up in SP with T2 pulses and battleship and T2 cruiser hulls. Also: Amarr ships are very light on supplies, which is handy for mobile pilots. Minmatar can do pretty much everything well enough to get by even early on, but requires crosstraining to achieve its full potential (armor vs shield, guns/missiles/drones). Also: not being Caldari can cause logistical problems if you move into nullsec or something (I ran a whole constellation out of Fusion M from all the ratting I did down when I was in null). Caldari is top dog for "traditional" PvE and Sleepers, still. Incursions and missiles don't mix well though: the Rokh is probably your best bet for a pure-Caldari Incursion ship with its good blaster DPS, or you can always fly a Basi. ECM tears are nice in PvP, but beyond that and Tengu fun, you're rather short on options. Gallente since the hybrid buff is a good option all-around, with drones for solid traditional PvE performance, good brawlers in PvP, and blaster facemeltage in Incursions. |

mecubed
Amarrian Retribution
0
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Posted - 2012.01.19 20:30:00 -
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Winmatar, because CCP gave them advantages in speed,sig radius,damage selection, CPU and PG fitting, versatility over every other race.. They have the best of every ship class except for t3 cruisers, in which the loki is a close 2nd to the tengu. Their guns have pretty much the best tracking, the dps is up there with everyone, fall off range is an advantage. Arties have far superior alpha damage. They can pretty much dictate a fight and or disengage without much difficulty. Which is why you see most of the pvp ships being used are Minnie.
Aside from a Drake (caldari) which is getting a nerf bat and its still inferior to a hurricane before the upcoming nerf. |

1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1902
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Posted - 2012.01.19 21:49:00 -
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Amarr anyday, they rock in everyway, most solid race in the game, don't listen to these Minmatar and Caldari fools, the only people I know who ended up never cross-training were Amarr 5 Senses In A Person... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Poles On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!-á If You Like My Sig, Like Me!-áRemember EVE is EVErything! |

Clyde ElectraGlide
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.01.19 23:30:00 -
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Definitely Amarr. |

Boyd Achura
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.01.19 23:43:00 -
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Caldari, because playing the underdog is worth all the frustration. |

AstarothPrime
Eternal Profiteers Eternal Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2012.01.20 10:23:00 -
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Amarr all the way.
- Caldari starts sucking past BC hulls, and missiles are boring as bloody hell, pve is good in serpentis and gurista space due to 25% only kinetic bonus on most PVE ships... ravens, including navy, sucks hairy balls with cruises, dont try to convince me otherwise... hybrids ... no need to discuss those
- Minmatar are either low dps high alpha and range or short range boats... falloff is actually scam - AC suck for anything further then 1/4 falloff, you HAVE to live in angel area to do pve with them properly, they are great for pvp, fotm, but still overrated
- Gallente - drones are OK, great carriers, but those ships cant shoot :\
- Amarr - pve good in sanshas and blood area, great PVP boats in all sizes, shoots max DPS furthest with large beams where not all is in falloff ;)
I. |

Kn1v3s 999
Aliastra Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.01.20 11:53:00 -
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Winmatar.
-Rifter -Trasher -Sabre -Wolf -Stiletto -Rupture -Cane -Tornado -Vagabond -Rapier -Huginn -Sleipnir -Maelstorm -Tempest
Subcap none can match em. For each class (t1 or t2) they have the best ship or a viable option and they can do both small/large pvp
and you need to skill them to have access of the Angel ships (more OP ships, but you will have to crosstrain to gallente for them)
-Daredevil -Dramiel -Cynabal -Machariel -Vindicator
/thread
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Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2012.01.20 15:57:00 -
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There can be only one ... Minmatar.
Being minmatar is like listening to http://youtu.be/hbMk6PEN7JA nonstop on foreverloop.
Thats how they are. |

Jacob Stov
6
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Posted - 2012.01.20 16:14:00 -
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Quite easy. Minmatar.
Started out as Caldari, but luckily switched before the buff to Minmatar.
Better snipers, better roaming ships, better tacklers. Capitals are not that hot for both, but atleast Minmatar don't have a 100% fail dread, and the carrier is better now, too.
Maybe Tengu is better than Loki, but that really isn't a class of ships I have any interest in.
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PotatoOverdose
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Flatline.
23
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Posted - 2012.01.20 17:06:00 -
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Probably amarr because they have ships that excel at almost ever role. Pilgrim - Drone boat, Excellent solo ship Curse - Excellent fleet ship, can be shield or armor fit depending on logi support. Guardian - Best logi boat (although scimi is a close second) Arbitrator - Extremely cost effective pvp drone boat, and due to having a td bonus can punch well above its weight class Armageddon - Most cost effective BS. Abaddon - Incredible buffer, can be fit with 1400's for excellent alpha. Excellent laser dps as well. Armageddon Navy Issue - Decent option for shield incursion fleets if that's your thing. Zealot - second to none as far as fleet hacs go.
Also, a number of amarr ships (malediction, vengeance, sacrilege) have missile bonuses as well, if your a fan of damage projection with selectable damage types.
Amarr does everything well, except for speed.
Edit: Also Amarr has the best caps. Minmatar caps are a poor joke by comparison. |

Kn1v3s 999
Aliastra Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2012.01.20 18:07:00 -
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problem about Amarr is they shine only after you have their t2 ships or BS, so it' s a long long run for a newbie |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
321
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Posted - 2012.01.20 18:15:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Amarr does everything well, except for speed.
Slicer. 
Retribution, too, if you kite-fit it. |

Naomi Knight
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
198
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Posted - 2012.01.20 19:34:00 -
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looks like winmatar wins again :O no wonder it is the easiest race by far perfect for newbies 2nd is amarr |

Andrea Griffin
87
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Posted - 2012.01.20 20:55:00 -
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Bent Barrel wrote:How about ship class instead of race restriction ? I started a new account (this one) and told myself that I won't set pod into anything larger than a frigate (ok I was flying a vexor for a bit :-))).
Plenty of options in frigates alone for everything. I did this when I started out with my flashy lowsec Yarrr pirate character. Years later, I still fly almost exclusively frigates.
My training went a lot like this: Started Caldari: Trained up missiles, hybrids, shields, drones. Cross trained to Gallente; Already had drones, just needed armor skills. Cross trained to Amarr: Already had drones and armor skills, just needed to train lasers. Cross trained to Minmatar: Already had everything except Autocannons.
Once you flesh out your skills with one race, you can very quickly become competent with the others. Plus, with frigates being a low-rank skill, and guns / missiles limited to frigate sizes, the training goes by so quickly!
As a side note, the ships I have flown the least are Gallente. I don't know if I even have a kill in a Gallente ship; I'm just not all that fond of them.
Kn1v3s 999 wrote:problem about Amarr is they shine only after you have their t2 ships or BS, so it' s a long long run for a newbie This is true. The Amarr T1 lineup is pretty weak until you get into battlecruisers with T2 guns. Their T2 ships, however, are truly awesome. One of my favorite solo PvP frigates is the Sentinel. It's not you guys who need to repair what has been broken, it's us. CCP Wrangler |

Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
321
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Posted - 2012.01.20 21:16:00 -
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Andrea Griffin wrote:Bent Barrel wrote:How about ship class instead of race restriction ? I started a new account (this one) and told myself that I won't set pod into anything larger than a frigate (ok I was flying a vexor for a bit :-))).
Plenty of options in frigates alone for everything. I did this when I started out with my flashy lowsec Yarrr pirate character. Years later, I still fly almost exclusively frigates. My training went a lot like this: Started Caldari: Trained up missiles, hybrids, shields, drones. Cross trained to Gallente; Already had drones, just needed armor skills. Cross trained to Amarr: Already had drones and armor skills, just needed to train lasers. Cross trained to Minmatar: Already had everything except Autocannons. Once you flesh out your skills with one race, you can very quickly become competent with the others. Plus, with frigates being a low-rank skill, and guns / missiles limited to frigate sizes, the training goes by so quickly! I've restricted myself to frigates/cruisers and my training went Minmatar->Amarr->Gallente->Caldari. By this time I fly all of them pretty much equally, though less Minmatar than I expected to be flying what with all the "winmatar" rabble.
"Small ships only" is a fun way to play. I ended up training a few bigger ships for PvE and other such purposes, but frigates are where it's at.
Edit:Amarr frigates and cruisers, even the T1 ones, are still some of my favorite ships, actually. Inquisitor is great, Crucifier is awesome support, Arbitrator is an amazing cruiser, and Maller makes a great brick neut+tackle ship, plus I solo killed a Prophecy while using my Punisher once. T1 Amarr is really underrated, IMO. |

OfBalance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.01.20 21:39:00 -
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I get a lot of enjoyment from caldari myself. I have considered cross training one race or another more times than I care to count, but I always stay true to my first race. Probably just my OCD, but it hasn't caused me too much heartache.
If I had to start from scratch again, btw that's a horrifying prospect considering the years of training I now take for granted, i'd probably choose minmatar or gallente just for variety's sake, using both tank types, having a little weapon variety, more drones to play with. |

Christina Trild
SkyNet Experiments
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Posted - 2012.01.20 22:46:00 -
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MINMATAR FTW all the way
Our ships are easy to Repair we just need 5 rolls of ducktape |

Pink Marshmellow
Abyssal Heavy Industries Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2012.01.21 09:25:00 -
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Amarr for me, I like shiny ships with lasers.
Sure Amarr is not like the king of subcaps that Minmatar is, but they are still rather good and can hold on their own.
Minmatar maybe the king of smaller ships, but Amarr is the king of bigger ships. Minmatar Capitals are fairly lacking for my tastes. The Minmatar concept of agility and speed doesn't exactly work for them.
Amarr is GOLDEN. |

Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.22 10:30:00 -
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my preferred race is Sansha, i luv my spikey shield tanked lazor ships more than anything else. except i know not to take them into pvp because they are a flying lossmail outside of station. waiting for a buff for my beloved lazor ships |

Roime
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2012.01.22 14:51:00 -
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Gallente.
Highly competive options for solo and small gang combat. Blaster balancing will be improved even more on 24th. Drones had a ninja buff. Drone ships are also versatile and interesting to fly, offering more tactical gameplay than turret only-ships. Talos is awesome. |
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