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Tzesaeia
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Posted - 2007.09.12 17:50:00 -
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Hi,
I missed the last 6 weeks or so and was kinda surprised by the changes to Nos.
So how are you using NOS now after it got changed a while ago?
A general idea of mine would be to fit a lot of stuff that drains your own cap e.g. MWD, Guns with high cap req., Reppers, active tank and stuff and fit NOS as usual. So you simply switch all your modules on, wait a while and start Nosing.
I can't test it right now cause I'm stuck on a starbase in enemy territory+terribly broke.
I'm waiting impatiently for your input on this.
I guess nobody simply threw his Curse, Domnix or Abbandon away did you? 
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Kruel
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.12 19:18:00 -
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I haven't used my Domi, Curse, Pilgrim, or Myrm since the nerf.
I'm not complaining about the Domi/Myrm... but I'm ****ed that my beloved Amarr recons got the shaft. After all, they have a freaking BONUS to nos, which is pointless now.
On the other hand, the Amarr laser boats are a much more viable option now which makes me happy.
With all kinds of EW being nerfed as of late, gank ships are going back in style.
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Jarvin Kell
Kingdom of Kador
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Posted - 2007.09.12 20:36:00 -
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I switched to a passive-tanked neutralizer setup on my domi. Haven't played with it much yet as I've been flying other ships lately.
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.09.13 10:25:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 13/09/2007 10:26:20
Edited by: Cpt Branko on 13/09/2007 10:25:31
I find one NOS to be effective on gunships (especially dual-rep setups with MWD) since most of the time, it will work (due to you having very little cap before the injector hits) and give you an extra bit of cap as well as stealing the other guy's cap (due to you being low on cap).
It prevents you from capping out while the opponent has cap available, something which would most likely be useful in ships which cannot fit an injector AND need cap to fire.
Yes, capping yourself out works, if you really want to go down that route.
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Marux
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.09.13 10:30:00 -
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I use my NOS to hold down objects in my cargohold; stacks of paper, skill books, charters, etc.
 Originally by: Draconis Galek
The idea is to make the drones a manageable part of a combined arms force instead of the herd of cats that it is at the moment.
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Mephistophilis
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.13 10:31:00 -
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The changes i made to my Domi was instead of 2 heavy nos and 4 medium nos, now has 2 heavy nos and 4 medium energy neuts. Wasn't sure how this would turn out till i attacked a 7 man BC gate camp solo (before you say, they we not noobs by any meens).
i'll not start trumpet blowing but the domi still rocks
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Marux
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.09.13 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Mephistophilis
The changes i made to my Domi was instead of 2 heavy nos and 4 medium nos, now has 2 heavy nos and 4 medium energy neuts. Wasn't sure how this would turn out till i attacked a 7 man BC gate camp solo (before you say, they we not noobs by any meens).
i'll not start trumpet blowing but the domi still rocks
Yes, yes it does. Just hope they don't use it for the new Black Ops BS; but then again, a black Domi would be awesome
Originally by: Draconis Galek
The idea is to make the drones a manageable part of a combined arms force instead of the herd of cats that it is at the moment.
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Mephistophilis
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.13 10:37:00 -
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I'd like the drone domi looking thing from drone plex's. Mmmm sexeh
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Grytok
German Kings
OPUS Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.13 10:58:00 -
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I've still fitted a NOS on my Ishtar or Deimos as it still works quiet good. It does not drain your opponent totally dry, but it helps sustaining your own cap, which is all a NOS should provide.
For the Curse they work also quiet well, because usually you're low on Cap.
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Kain De'Stroi
Epic.
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Posted - 2007.09.13 11:08:00 -
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nos + dual repps + drones, still awsome combo
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Thraxon
Black-Sun-Inventions
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Posted - 2007.09.13 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: Marux
I use my NOS to hold down objects in my cargohold; stacks of paper, skill books, charters, etc.
They look pretty in the disco as well 
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Allestin Villimar
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Posted - 2007.09.13 11:52:00 -
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One thing you can do is to on-line a module once you get into a fight. Almost instantly drains you of your full cap.
Note, don't do this if you aren't in nos range. Bad things will happen.
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Danii
CryoTech
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Posted - 2007.09.13 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Allestin Villimar
One thing you can do is to on-line a module once you get into a fight. Almost instantly drains you of your full cap.
Note, don't do this if you aren't in nos range. Bad things will happen.
Cunning, but close to being a sploit, I'd have said. Still, you gotta love game mechanics :-)
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.09.13 12:36:00 -
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Originally by: Allestin Villimar
One thing you can do is to on-line a module once you get into a fight. Almost instantly drains you of your full cap.
Note, don't do this if you aren't in nos range. Bad things will happen.
Eh? Wassat?
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Gartel Reiman
Project F3
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Posted - 2007.09.13 12:51:00 -
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If you have a module offline and at least 95% capacitor, you can online that module in space, which will knock you down to something like 30% cap.
But to get back to the OPs question, I would describe the fundamental change to NOS as "no longer works as an offensive module; it's only used to help sustain your own cap". With that in mind, I think all of these plans and tricks to drain your own cap down so that you can drain your target somewhat crazy.
If your plan is to drain your target of cap, use neuts. That's what they're for, they do a better job of it than NOS and you don't (necessarily) have to cripple your own cap to drain your target's. The main drawback of neuts vs NOS previously was that neuts drained your own cap whereas NOS didn't... but as soon as you start talking about deliberately trying to get your cap low to enable NOSsing, you should really be thinking about fitting neuts instead.
An interesting technique, if applicable, is to fit neuts and NOS in pairs. This works best if you have two hostiles; you can neut the one whose cap you want to drain, while NOSsing the other one to recover the cap you lose through activating the neuts. If there is only one hostile, then the NOS will at least ensure that if you're running other cap-hungry modules your cap will not go too far below his.
All that said, I still like to fit a NOS in any 'spare' highslot I have, for the cap sustenance purpose. I don't think I'd ever go out to deliberately cripple my own cap just so I could drain someone else, but NOS is useful for those situations where you're perhaps not on top of the fight, and having to run several energy-hungry mods at once, e.g. a disruptor, MWD and repper. In these cases where you drop below peak recharge but can't deactivate any modules, the NOS lets you use the hostile's cap to supplement your own, allowing you longer before you run dry.
So my single piece of advice would be to forget about any effect it would have on the target; consider it a purely 'defensive/sustenance' type module like a cap recharger and you'll probably be thinking along the right lines.
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AntonioBanderas
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Posted - 2007.09.14 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Gartel Reiman
All that said, I still like to fit a NOS in any 'spare' highslot I have, for the cap sustenance purpose. I don't think I'd ever go out to deliberately cripple my own cap just so I could drain someone else, but NOS is useful for those situations where you're perhaps not on top of the fight, and having to run several energy-hungry mods at once, e.g. a disruptor, MWD and repper. In these cases where you drop below peak recharge but can't deactivate any modules, the NOS lets you use the hostile's cap to supplement your own, allowing you longer before you run dry.
So my single piece of advice would be to forget about any effect it would have on the target; consider it a purely 'defensive/sustenance' type module like a cap recharger and you'll probably be thinking along the right lines.
Wise man.
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