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Ilvan	Posted - 2007.09.14 07:01:00 - [121] Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2 Egad some people are not too bright are they? Okay simple simon let me spell it out for you....Low sec is indeed safe, but only for those flying a mothership parked at a gate smartbombing....I think that is the point the OP is making, shouldn;t low sec have similar risk for ALL eve players? Ohnoes the horror you might not be able to grief people safely! So you're saying that low-sec should be equally as risky for, say, an auto-piloting tard in an Iteron as it is for someone flying the penultimate flagship? Perhaps the EWAR immunity on motherships and titans does need to be changed, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that all this trouble could be avoided if: a) people scouted (durrr?) b) people avoided systems where this tends to happen (double durrr?) But just like all the Jita lemmings, people will never adapt, they'll just whine and whine and whine until CCP nerfs something just to get them off the damn forums for a few days.
Shar'Tuk TheHated	Posted - 2007.09.14 07:07:00 - [122] Miz Cenuij is just a very large carebear in his uber carebear mobile. Dont let the flashy fool you he takes 0% risk therefore he is a carebear. DRINK RUM It fights scurvy & boosts morale! THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES!
Katharina Gorbacheva Amarr Soviet Star Federation Celestial Frontier	Posted - 2007.09.14 07:09:00 - [123] LOL Words and Talk is not petitionable m8, welcome to freedom of speech.
Novemb3r Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.14 07:11:00 - [124] Originally by: Katharina Gorbacheva LOL Words and Talk is not petitionable m8, welcome to freedom of speech. HAHAHAHAHA. Good luck with that dude. -
CCCP lalalalalla	Posted - 2007.09.14 07:26:00 - [125] CCP has bad game mecahnics, but there is a way to kill a mothership without a dictor. You need alot of alts or just a bunch of neuts. A nyx can get its max cap around 130k. That would be 260 neuts, or 35-40 abbadons. It will completely empty his cap, so he cannot warp or do anything for that matter, cap regen wont matter. Even with log on, it is still impossible since he can initiate warp before you get all the neuts on him. So all in all IT IS ******* IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL A MOTHERSHIP IN LOW SEC. A mothership is the king of all stab ships.
Steve Hawkings	Posted - 2007.09.14 08:47:00 - [126] its just bad luck that these talentless stat *****s left CS in the first place.
Rasterman Ganja Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2007.09.14 10:55:00 - [127] Edited by: Rasterman Ganja on 14/09/2007 11:04:46 Originally by: Buxaroo The problem with a Mothership or Titan only being able to go in 0.0 is the issue that some in some regions you cannot go to another region at all without traversing low sec. For instance in Delve to get to Fountain, you need to traverse Aridia or what have you. Nah, Delve connects to Fountain at Y-2ANO/ZXB-VC. In fact, I went through there last week trying to pick a fight in my Thrasher, Started in Placid, through Syndicate, Outer Ring, Fountain, and then Delve before I ran into a BoB interdictor 1 jump past NOL-M9. I mean, you're Reikoku, right? You should know Y-2ANO, your station is there... Besides, when does a MS or Titan need contiguous security ratings to go to another system? They just Cyno to where they want to go...
Rasterman Ganja Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2007.09.14 10:57:00 - [128] Back to the topic at hand though, there are only two ways you'll have a prayer getting Miz, and I'd point out that before Miz, both Ginger Magician and Tiller were doing the very same thing in a MS in the Otou/Hagilur/Rancer/Amamake area. Anyways... Slim Chance to get Miz #1: Login trap with a fleet at the Otou/Hek gate. Slim Chance to get Miz #2: Find out who his cyno alt is and ***** it at the same time you warp your fleet onto him. Goodluck.
Nivestre Bour	Posted - 2007.09.14 11:29:00 - [129] Edited by: Nivestre Bour on 14/09/2007 11:34:45 Capital Warp Scrambler ? - prevents cyno out - prevents warp off - can only be fitted on capital ships problem solved .... ? Okey, it would not prevent him from sitting at a gate doing what he does but at least people could act on it and he would be exposed at some lvl of danger sitting there. Right now he is sitting there with almost 0.0 risk of losing his ship. anny way give us a counter spell plz ;)
Iyanah Minmatar Mining Munitions and Mayhem R i s e	Posted - 2007.09.14 12:07:00 - [130] Originally by: Sm0kE Gotta be griefing. prety much. he's invulnerable, and killing people because he can - he won't get any loot of make any money because he's gonna SB the wrecks. so he's not playing the game, he's just 100% griefing. petition it as such. the trouble is, the only way to stop this happening to you would be to prevent capitals from moving into 0.4 systems... which is a bad thing, as cyno-hauling is the only way life in 0.0 space can work. the solution to this kind of griefing is, well there isn't one. i suppose it could be deemed an exploit and anyone smartbombing a gate from a mothership could potentially get hit by the ban stick, but then there are legitimate cases where by a fleet could move through a lowsec system and attempt to engage a hostile fleet on a gate, they might have carriers in support, and smartbombs could be used. if such a thing were to happen, it would look just like the exploit case, but it was a legitimate use of the ship. ========================================== Iy please remember: I AM a sarcastic ******* and nothing i say has ever represented the thoughts or feelings of my corp, alliance, or anyone really. read

Hasak Rain Amarr	Posted - 2007.09.14 12:23:00 - [131] meh, leave the fat kid alone. He gets picked last for kickball every time so this is his way of striking back.
Xan Riden	Posted - 2007.09.14 12:33:00 - [132] I ask the citizens of EvE... How do you kill that which has no life?
judes23 SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.14 13:35:00 - [133] Edited by: judes23 on 14/09/2007 13:35:51 hey guys, i just had an idea! #1 check the map, that should be in the tutorial for the noobs to seach if there where killing near by #2 if there has been killing, ...FLY AWAY from it.. #3 if your that dumb to go into that system where ppl in local screaming, "miz miz!!!" you desver to be shot #4 who cares about a few noobs, there all on trails anyway. oh, and im not trolling, it really seems like you all are trolling. i am a very big fan of miz, and what he is doing is what CCP lets us do. nuff said
Zen Guerrilla Minmatar	Posted - 2007.09.14 13:40:00 - [134] Originally by: judes23 Edited by: judes23 on 14/09/2007 13:35:51 hey guys, i just had an idea! #1 check the map, that should be in the tutorial for the noobs to seach if there where killing near by #2 if there has been killing, ...FLY AWAY from it.. #3 if your that dumb to go into that system where ppl in local screaming, "miz miz!!!" you desver to be shot #4 who cares about a few noobs, there all on trails anyway. oh, and im not trolling, it really seems like you all are trolling. i am a very big fan of miz, and what he is doing is what CCP lets us do. nuff said You completely failed at understanding just the least bit of the OPs post. ----------------------------- Not an alt. And proud of it.
judes23 SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.14 13:46:00 - [135] no, i am just very very mad that almost 50% of the fourms is about crying about something bad that happen to them. and now, thanks to all of you cr-babies, who cant play eve without petitioning, have to cry about it on the fourms, so all can see how much of an tard you are. THANK YOU ALL miz, keep up the killings please, so they can cry more
Zen Guerrilla Minmatar	Posted - 2007.09.14 13:54:00 - [136] Edited by: Zen Guerrilla on 14/09/2007 13:54:21 Originally by: judes23 no, i am just very very mad that almost 50% of the fourms is about crying about something bad that happen to them. and now, thanks to all of you cr-babies, who cant play eve without petitioning, have to cry about it on the fourms, so all can see how much of an tard you are. THANK YOU ALL miz, keep up the killings please, so they can cry more This whole thread got exactly ONE person in it who actually got ganked in said gatecamp and wasn't even bitter about it. The ISSUE of this thread is something completely different. Just try and read it. The complete thing. Don't just pick out "noob" and "gatecamp". ----------------------------- Not an alt. And proud of it.
judes23 SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.14 13:58:00 - [137] i did read the full thing, but it REALLY does seem almost every single one of you are crying about this, the mother ship is prefect how it is. it is a SUPERCAPITAL SHIP, if any, we should give it more cpu
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.14 14:58:00 - [138] Originally by: judes23 no, i am just very very mad that almost 50% of the fourms is about crying about something bad that happen to them. and now, thanks to all of you cr-babies, who cant play eve without petitioning, have to cry about it on the fourms, so all can see how much of an tard you are. THANK YOU ALL miz, keep up the killings please, so they can cry more Have you noticed that your "hero" Miz has menaced petitions too? You can feel that killing rookie players in droves is nice and dandy, but it is not good for the healt of the game. That is what I don't like. For the rest I always use the safe route from Jita to Hek and Miz can stay in Rancer or Otu in the lotus position looking his navel forever.
Iluminat Minmatar WASTELAND MINERS Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.14 15:03:00 - [139] Damn his sig tells me he's a mass murderer and by the look of it he's doing his job very good It's not to hard to find out how to stay in high sec. If you're to lazy to take some extra jumps with a 2b cargo.....dont wine
Domania Rolls Mining Factory	Posted - 2007.09.14 15:10:00 - [140] Edited by: Domania on 14/09/2007 15:10:04 I bet Star Fraction can pull off this task with 10 thoraxs.

Ozmodan Minmatar Knights Covenant	Posted - 2007.09.14 15:10:00 - [141] Edited by: Ozmodan on 14/09/2007 15:11:51 Wow, I cannot believe how the main point of the matter just zooms over so many of your heads. Just wondering how many of you even bother to read what he said, or for that matter can even read? The point is the ship is basically invulnerable where it sits. Motherships should not be allowed in low sec period. Basically the guy is abusing a game mechanic, hence, probably one of the bigger griefers in the game. Basically Miz Cenuij is a flat out coward who exploits the game. Enjoy your yellow strip :) The really sad thing is CCP if fully cognizant of the matter and again fails to act. You have to wonder sometimes if their hands off attitude on these matters works to the disadvantage of the playerbase. Learners permit still current
Captian Internet Lead Bricks	Posted - 2007.09.14 15:18:00 - [142] Originally by: Shar'Tuk TheHated Miz Cenuij is just a very large carebear in his uber carebear mobile. Dont let the flashy fool you he takes 0% risk therefore he is a carebear. Carebears consider PvP despicable outside of duels. Anything non consensual is along the lines of rape. Changes to Local,War ,Navigation Shortcuts
Captian Internet Lead Bricks	Posted - 2007.09.14 15:19:00 - [143] Originally by: Hasak Rain meh, leave the fat kid alone. He gets picked last for kickball every time so this is his way of striking back. Prove your allegations or stop making attacks Changes to Local,War ,Navigation Shortcuts
Rabbitual Ferrier	Posted - 2007.09.14 15:27:00 - [144] Originally by: Ilvan Low-sec isn't safe? Ohnoes! The horror! And here I was thinking that 'low security' meant midget cops. Well it is safe, if you fly a mothership. All this talk of 'get over it, low sec is supposed to be a risk' should be a two way street. Make them vulnerable to Ewar in low sec, or keep them in 0.0
Miz Cenuij Caldari Simply Smacktackular	Posted - 2007.09.14 15:32:00 - [145] Originally by: Iyanah Originally by: Sm0kE Gotta be griefing. prety much. he's invulnerable, and killing people because he can - he won't get any loot of make any money because he's gonna SB the wrecks. so he's not playing the game, he's just 100% griefing. petition it as such. the trouble is, the only way to stop this happening to you would be to prevent capitals from moving into 0.4 systems... which is a bad thing, as cyno-hauling is the only way life in 0.0 space can work. the solution to this kind of griefing is, well there isn't one. i suppose it could be deemed an exploit and anyone smartbombing a gate from a mothership could potentially get hit by the ban stick, but then there are legitimate cases where by a fleet could move through a lowsec system and attempt to engage a hostile fleet on a gate, they might have carriers in support, and smartbombs could be used. if such a thing were to happen, it would look just like the exploit case, but it was a legitimate use of the ship. You are a proper noob arnt you? Smartbombs dont destroy wrecks and I DO loot the wrecks, tus profiting from my actions. As such iam not griefing. WTB a clue noob? "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Miz Cenuij Caldari Simply Smacktackular	Posted - 2007.09.14 15:34:00 - [146] So many people I have killed have posted in this thread its unreal LOL. It was all your own faults, the map lights up Otou like a beacon. Soa many kids throwing thier dummies out of thier prams coz things didnt go thier way. Makes me LOl so hard. "Men are going to die.. and im going to kill them".
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.09.14 15:45:00 - [147] Originally by: Shar'Tuk TheHated Miz Cenuij is just a very large carebear in his uber carebear mobile. Dont let the flashy fool you he takes 0% risk therefore he is a carebear. Ah, true. Maybe he got those factional warfare pvp missions and is now ganking 10k pilots in low sec... ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Sweetpain	Posted - 2007.09.14 16:10:00 - [148] Originally by: judes23 no, i am just very very mad that almost 50% of the fourms is about crying about something bad that happen to them. and now, thanks to all of you cr-babies, who cant play eve without petitioning, have to cry about it on the fourms, so all can see how much of an tard you are. THANK YOU ALL miz, keep up the killings please, so they can cry more We are all very gratefull for the effort you put in to educate all the noobs of eve, no wait your not educating anyone, your just bragging your able to get babies to cry. Good effort Judes, without you no babies would cry in the whole universe.
Captian Internet Lead Bricks	Posted - 2007.09.14 16:31:00 - [149] Originally by: Beastoria Originally by: PawnStar Assasin Ok guys, So how (assuming we could amass enough willing suicide participents), do we kill this ship in this situation ? Is it even possible ? Lots of firepower and someone bumping him. Changes to Local,War ,Navigation Shortcuts
Iluminat Minmatar WASTELAND MINERS Inc.	Posted - 2007.09.14 17:50:00 - [150] Originally by: Ozmodan Edited by: Ozmodan on 14/09/2007 15:11:51 Wow, I cannot believe how the main point of the matter just zooms over so many of your heads. Just wondering how many of you even bother to read what he said, or for that matter can even read? The point is the ship is basically invulnerable where it sits. Motherships should not be allowed in low sec period. Basically the guy is abusing a game mechanic, hence, probably one of the bigger griefers in the game. Basically Miz Cenuij is a flat out coward who exploits the game. Enjoy your yellow strip :) The really sad thing is CCP if fully cognizant of the matter and again fails to act. You have to wonder sometimes if their hands off attitude on these matters works to the disadvantage of the playerbase. True, only saying somebody is a coward is not the point either.



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