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Lux Exterior
Gallente
The School of Fine Art
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Posted - 2007.09.13 16:59:00 -
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Is it just me, or does the nerfbat whistle across the back of my knees every time I think I've got my training properly organized.
I appreciate that many of the older players have there skills so broadly spread that it is only a minor inconvenience to them, but many younger players like me spend months specializing to try and level the playing field a bit.
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Peanut Swsh
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.13 17:03:00 -
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instead of continually switching training for the latest i-win button, pick one thing you will enjoy flying, and train for it.
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slothe
Caldari
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.09.13 17:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Peanut Swsh
instead of continually switching training for the latest i-win button, pick one thing you will enjoy flying, and train for it.
what this guy says.
its a good example to train for at least 2 races, so when one is inevitably nerfed, the other is probably ok still.
people do tend to follow best ship classes, then soon as they can fly them they are nerfed.
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.09.13 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 13/09/2007 17:51:18
Originally by: Peanut Swsh
instead of continually switching training for the latest i-win button, pick one thing you will enjoy flying, and train for it.
This.
Of course, people want to train for the I-Win buttons. You know, did you ever stop to consider *why* you're training for it? ;)
Yeees, that's why they're nerfing it.
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Dheorl
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Posted - 2007.09.13 19:38:00 -
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I think its more that you train for something thinking its bog standard, you just like it then before you know it its become FOTM and boom, the bat comes in the direction of an innocent person out trying to enjoy himself.
Well thats what I find to be the case anyways.
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Dheorl
I think its more that you train for something thinking its bog standard, you just like it then before you know it its become FOTM and boom, the bat comes in the direction of an innocent person out trying to enjoy himself.
Well thats what I find to be the case anyways.
Oh, yes, that's why we have so many people moaning they trained for the Curse and now it doesn't make sense 
Everyone just thought it was bog-standard. Riiiight...
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Atsuko Ratu
Caldari
VSP Corp.
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:05:00 -
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I fly only Caldari, and I joined after they got nerfed. If we get nerfed again, well, the only way to make us worse is to delete us all together 
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Ararius
EP0CH
Black Sun Cartel
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Peanut Swsh
instead of continually switching training for the latest i-win button, pick one thing you will enjoy flying, and train for it.
Qft again.
I fly 3 Races of ships up to BC (And Caldari BS because I used to mission spam <.<). My friends are always like, "ARAR STOP SPLITING UP AND SPEC ALREADY DAMNIT!!!!" but I play for fun. The omgwftbbq that comes with what I do for fun is just a +
Owning isnt everything you know, ya gotta have fun! (And fly ships that visually pleaseing)
Im ugly, just look at my face!
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Xarax
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:23:00 -
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This is why you pick the biggest underdog race in the game, and train the hell out of it. Do not divert your path...ever. When the others are being nerferd, you can sit back and say, "What are they b!tching about?".
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Big Al
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:28:00 -
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You gotta fake em out, make it out like you are buying a mothership and voila, bubble buff.
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Rialtor
Amarr
Yarrrateers
Mass Destruction.
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Xarax
This is why you pick the biggest underdog race in the game, and train the hell out of it. Do not divert your path...ever. When the others are being nerferd, you can sit back and say, "What are they b!tching about?".
lol, that's my philosophy as well. I love nothing more than to read all the posts of complaining after broken things become nerfed :). It makes it all worth wild that it was broken in the 1st place.
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Djerin
Obsidian Exploration Services
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Peanut Swsh
instead of continually switching training for the latest i-win button, pick one thing you will enjoy flying, and train for it.
This. Training for the FOTM (flavour of the month) will result in nerfs after a few month. Has been like this since first year of EVE. You'd be better off trying to predict the next FOTM.
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Spaced Skunk
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:43:00 -
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My advice is to stick to yours guns, I started training Minmatar about 2 years ago and despite them being good at pvp now through game tweaking, they werent back when I decided to train them, they were the underdogs along with Amarr, which still happens to be on the poor side.
Your best bet is to specialize in a single race, pick one you like and you'll stick too. Then train that race up so you can use the t2 weaponary, have all/most of thier t2 ships and have them trained to an above par level. You'll find this opens the doors to other races anyway in the long run, I only need to train a cruiser to level 5 and I can use that race's HACs, Recons, Logistics, Command Ships and whatever else uses that level 5.
I still would prefer my specialized skilling though. I'd prefer training Command ships level 5 over another cruiser 5 and its racial weaponary for instance.
And nothing has ever been hit with the 'nerfbat' that it made it completely useless to train imo, so if you like what your using atm stick to it. Your going to be a very diluted player in the long run, that isnt necessary better than most people at a certain thing.
Like me, I plan to get excellent leadership skills, and thats what my character, at the end of the day, will be better at most the people in EvE at. Not many people can say they have a maxed out Skirmish gang bonus. Just like there wont be many pilots with Recon 5 and maxed out ECM skills, and of course the point of all this is, these pilots will still be extremely effective at what they specialised to do even if it does get nerfed.
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Shiodome
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:49:00 -
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Edited by: Shiodome on 13/09/2007 20:50:28
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Maeltstome
Minmatar
Caldari Navy Raiders
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Peanut Swsh
instead of continually switching training for the latest i-win button, pick one thing you will enjoy flying, and train for it.
QFT - Train minmatar
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Azrael Maxim
Flexible Demeanour
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Posted - 2007.09.13 20:58:00 -
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If you have enough patience just train for everything and you will be unnerfable 
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.09.13 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Big Al
You gotta fake em out, make it out like you are buying a mothership and voila, bubble buff.
Along these lines, I'm thinking of training Gallente skills up, just to make sure they get nerfed hard.
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Hyakuchan
Hyakucorp
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Posted - 2007.09.13 21:11:00 -
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There is only one constant in EVE, and that's that the Apoc is no good at anything. Everything else is in transition.
But yeah, as has been said... EVE is all about the quest to find something worth nerfing, abusing it until people complain, and then complaining about the nerf that ensues.
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Oravainen Tuomas
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Posted - 2007.09.13 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Hyakuchan
There is only one constant in EVE, and that's that the Apoc is no good at anything. Everything else is in transition.
It appears you haven't been around very long. The apoc was, for a long time, the most desirable ship in the game.
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ZeroSector
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Posted - 2007.09.13 22:05:00 -
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yeah it was when i first started the poc was a beast then just as i got in 1 the raven took the crown but i stuck with amarr and since that day iv still been waiting for it to rise again and 1 day ill have a nice ship for a few months until the bat comes around again
if there is one thing you can be sure of the nerf bat is like the seasons its gonnna come like it or not just live with it when it does
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AntonioBanderas
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Posted - 2007.09.14 07:13:00 -
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well, gallente has evaded the dreaded nerfbat quite successfuly
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Ashaz
Mindstar Technology
United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.09.14 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Peanut Swsh
instead of continually switching training for the latest i-win button, pick one thing you will enjoy flying, and train for it.
i am unsure how yo managed to missread "spend months specializing to try and level the playing field a bit" into "continually switching training".
I know why I went for the curse, 7 months ago. it seemed like a damn cool ship to fly. it looks good and was specialized for nos and drones. something I've been using since day one.
sad to say that I have joined the big crowd and now go for a huge tank and passive weapons. 
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2007.09.14 07:32:00 -
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Stop worrying about where the nerfbat's swingin' and just train up what you like. When you get clipped by it, power through. Constantly training for whatever the latest craze is just setting yourself up for disappointment.
I'm an Amarr laser specialist, at this point capable of flying most of the ships, and I have no intention of changing my skill training path despite the fact that CCP secretly hates the Amarr. I fly 'em because they're shiny...
And for off the wall "You think your race has it bad? Well, let me tell you a little something about EM damage..." counter-whines.
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Ren Tales
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.14 07:44:00 -
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I branched out at first for the fun of it... Trained all non-amarr (a note here: when I first started cross training, Amarr didn't suck. I didn't decide not to train them due to all the Amarr whines, I chose not to train them because I don't like their combat style) up to battleship and played around with them all a bit. Trained all three races t2 frigs up, played with those for a while... Then I decided that (for the most part) caldari arn't my style. So I flew Gal and Min for a while...
I finally decided that minmatar were my thing, so I trained up for the Sleipnir. Currently finishing off t2 large ACs/Arty for my other love, the Maelstrom. My spread out skills have benefited all 3 races, but specialization has now made my minmatar ships especially uber.
Play around with different ships and races, then find one you like and specialize. FOTM ships are far overated.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.09.14 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: Azrael Maxim
If you have enough patience just train for everything and you will be unnerfable
Oh, no, he found out my secret plan
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.09.14 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Xarax
This is why you pick the biggest underdog race in the game, and train the hell out of it. Do not divert your path...ever. When the others are being nerferd, you can sit back and say, "What are they b!tching about?".
Hehe
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.14 09:23:00 -
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What other people said. Speccing really is not all that people make it out to be. I have been spreading my skills wildly over all four races pretty much from day one, and never regretted it. T2 large weapons are really only needed for fleet battles and solo PvP, both things that I have no interest in. I can fly all BS at lvl4+ in every relevant skill and I would say I am doing great. Imho being able to fly pretty much every T1 ship there is, always using the one most suitable for the job at hand, beats being able to fly only a very limited selection of ships 15% better than nonspecced chars. And saves you a lot of whining when the nerfbat comes your way.
As for T2 ships, I got an alt for those
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There is no 'r' in faction
There is no 'a' in Scorpion
There is no 'e' in Caldari
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Kur'Dekaija
Atomic Heroes
The OSS
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Posted - 2007.09.14 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: AntonioBanderas
well, gallente has evaded the dreaded nerfbat quite successfuly
hey allow us to shine a bit, I started training gallante when I started, I have sticked to it and now its finally paying off.
I trained for gallante when the amarr and minmatar had their lows full of unstacked dmg mods. I trained for gallante when the caldari had their "hit everything with full dmg" missiles. Ive been through it all so bahahahah on you who whine about gallante. 
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Idaeus
Earned In Blood
Black Sun Cartel
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Posted - 2007.09.14 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: AntonioBanderas
well, gallente has evaded the dreaded nerfbat quite successfuly
Eh, that's because we've had to deal with drone idiocy on a much wider scale then anyone else. I still have drones that get stuck on objects, or decide that it doesn't want to return to my drone bay. Just sits outside your ship saying "But I don't wanna!"
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Toppar Wear
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.09.14 09:35:00 -
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I took minmatar because they where the underdogs and could choose their damage.. But damn i was wrong, they were ****e ..
But its really paying off now, I got nearly maxed skills for all the t2 minmatar ships being a little nano boy 
Now im training up gellente..
Eventhough they are gonna hit them with the nerfmobile next patch I enjoy the close range fighting and drone mricomanagement..
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