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Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.14 17:25:00 - [1] If the people arguing that salvaging a wreck from a ship in a mission that someone else blew up isn't stealing, then why don't they just ask for bookmarks to the wrecks? Or purchase them? I'm sure many mission runners would be happy to sell the bookmarks to them. But that's not the case. These people want to scan out missions in deadspace. They want to steal salvage. They want to cause grief for the person that created the wrecks. Any other reasons they give are just cover so they can get risk free salvage and grief other players at the same time. If you really think it's not stealing, ask permission or buy bookmarks. Otherwise you're just griefing. I salvage all of my mission wrecks, but I would definitely consider selling salvage/looting rights. It would save me some time. However, no one asks to salvage and no one asks for bookmarks. I risked my expensive ass battleship, and I spent the time to blow up NPCs to create those wrecks. They're mine. Just wanted to clear up any confusion regarding empire mission salvage. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets do not.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.14 17:32:00 - [2] Originally by: Arana Tellen If you want to be able to claim what is considered salvage (and therefore in empire is open to anyone) then MISSION IN LOW SEC OR 0.0. There you can shoot looters without fear of concord. If I wanted to play the game your way, I'd be you. I'd have no problem fighting for my loot, but I'm not allowed. Defending my salvage is considered a criminal act. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets do not.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.14 17:33:00 - [3] Originally by: Thanos Draicon Originally by: Xaen If the people arguing that salvaging a wreck from a ship in a mission that someone else blew up isn't stealing, then why don't they just ask for bookmarks to the wrecks? Or purchase them? I'm sure many mission runners would be happy to sell the bookmarks to them. But that's not the case. These people want to scan out missions in deadspace. They want to steal salvage. They want to cause grief for the person that created the wrecks. Are you sure they don't just want the salvage? I don't care enough to go hunting for salvage but if I did, it'd be about the salvage, not annoying some random carebear. ~~That's what lowsec is for!~~ Then I'd be more than happy to negotiate a price for bookmarks to each pocket of wrecks. However, that isn't the case. Nobody wants to ask or negotiate a deal for bookmarks. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets do not.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.14 17:43:00 - [4] Originally by: Andargor theWise I always find it amusing that people need to understand someone else's motivations in a game... People's motives are usually obvious, what fascinates me is the paper thin veneer of bull**** they try to cover them with. I make no attempt to hide the fact that I like to do high sec L4 mission running because it's like printing money. But then again, so is mining, and many other professions in EVE, so I don't even feel guilty about it. I risk a ~200M battleship every time I undock. It's only through experience, careful research and planning that it becomes an ISK printer. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets do not.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.14 17:45:00 - [5] Originally by: Arana Tellen Edited by: Arana Tellen on 14/09/2007 17:41:52 Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Arana Tellen If you want to be able to claim what is considered salvage (and therefore in empire is open to anyone) then MISSION IN LOW SEC OR 0.0. There you can shoot looters without fear of concord. If I wanted to play the game your way, I'd be you. I'd have no problem fighting for my loot, but I'm not allowed. Defending my salvage is considered a criminal act. If you don't like the salvage laws of empire then move away, but you also loose protection. If you really want to stop them scanning you dont complete the mission and salvage with an ABing destroyer I use an eris + MWD + 8 salvagers and work on the large wrecks first, then again I have skills. That way they would never stand a chance of salvaging before me. I use a MWD Catalyst w/4 lootbeams and 4 salvagers. Any thief dumb enough to loot a can thus far has invariably left in their pod. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets do not.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.14 18:03:00 - [6] Originally by: Seeing EyeDog Jesus christ man, is this all you do? If theyre salvaging from ur wrecks, fit a scram to ur ship and pop them if it bothers you that much. Yeah, that goes over REAL well with CONCORD. WTS reading comprehension. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets do not.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.14 18:30:00 - [7] Originally by: War Fairy Originally by: Xaen I use a MWD Catalyst w/4 lootbeams and 4 salvagers. Any thief dumb enough to loot a can thus far has invariably left in their pod. Any salvager dumb enough to get popped by a ship with no weapons and 1 light drone deserves to loose their ship. Silly forum troll. I don't use my salvaging ship for pvp. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets do not.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.14 19:02:00 - [8] Originally by: War Fairy Originally by: Xaen Silly forum troll. I don't use my salvaging ship for pvp. That's because you don't PvP. Right... ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets do not.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.14 19:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Vladimir Ilych My 2 pence. High sec mission running is my primary income source to let me do other things. I really could not give a toss if someone warps into my pocket and salvages a few wrecks. I still get to come back and do the wrecks with loot and then salvage those (if i can be bothered). That said I have never had any of my wrecks "pinched". Ever. Probably why you don't care. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI Drones should not aggro anything missiles or turrets do not.

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