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Dantae Montoya
Forsaken Resistance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 18:28:00 -
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I rather like the idea that anyone can salvage a wreck, If you leave it there it is fair game.
If you are so concerned about salvage, fit a tractor beam and salvager and salvage as your doing the mission. Or do what I do, say in corp chat "Free salvaging rights to my missions 50/50 split" thats when im in the mood to just kill things and cant be bothered with cleaning up the place. its a real good way to get your newer and younger players to feel like they are helping out.
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Xaen
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.09.14 18:30:00 -
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 Originally by: War Fairy
Originally by: Xaen
I use a MWD Catalyst w/4 lootbeams and 4 salvagers.
Any thief dumb enough to loot a can thus far has invariably left in their pod.
Any salvager dumb enough to get popped by a ship with no weapons and 1 light drone deserves to loose their ship.
Silly forum troll. I don't use my salvaging ship for pvp.
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Saris Dadra
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Posted - 2007.09.14 18:36:00 -
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If you really care so much about your salvage, run the mission with a Salvage-Domi. You can salvage as you mission fairly effectively. It may not be as fast as using a Raven and coming back in a salvage ship, but the risk of 'salvage stealing' is minimal since there are only a few wreaks out at any given time. If someone tries to salvage your wreaks, you can stop making new wreaks until they leave.
PvP is what makes Eve great, and like it or not 'salvage stealing' is a form of PvP. You can risk your salvage by burning through a mission and the coming back in a dedicated salvage boat, or you can plod through the mission an get all the salvage as well. Missioning is still a fairly risk free form of money printing, 'Salvage stealing' is a rather mild risk. If someone really wanted to grief you they wouldn't steal your salvage, they would suicide-gank your faction fitted CNR while your missioning.
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War Fairy
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Posted - 2007.09.14 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Xaen
Silly forum troll. I don't use my salvaging ship for pvp.
That's because you don't PvP.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.14 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Xaen
Originally by: Thanos Draicon
Originally by: Xaen
If the people arguing that salvaging a wreck from a ship in a mission that someone else blew up isn't stealing, then why don't they just ask for bookmarks to the wrecks? Or purchase them? I'm sure many mission runners would be happy to sell the bookmarks to them.
But that's not the case.
These people want to scan out missions in deadspace. They want to steal salvage. They want to cause grief for the person that created the wrecks.
Are you sure they don't just want the salvage? I don't care enough to go hunting for salvage but if I did, it'd be about the salvage, not annoying some random carebear. That's what lowsec is for!
Then I'd be more than happy to negotiate a price for bookmarks to each pocket of wrecks. However, that isn't the case. Nobody wants to ask or negotiate a deal for bookmarks.
One of the standard problems in eve: too much trust needed.
No guarantee you aren't selling empty location bookmarks and if you gang them and show them the location before selling they can bookmak and don't need to pay.
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Sixtina KL
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Posted - 2007.09.14 18:58:00 -
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Frustrate the thieves: destroy the wrecks you don't plan on salvaging.
Drones especially can do short work out of them.
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Xaen
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: War Fairy
Originally by: Xaen
Silly forum troll. I don't use my salvaging ship for pvp.
That's because you don't PvP.
Right...
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Vladimir Ilych
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:08:00 -
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My 2 pence.
High sec mission running is my primary income source to let me do other things. I really could not give a toss if someone warps into my pocket and salvages a few wrecks. I still get to come back and do the wrecks with loot and then salvage those (if i can be bothered). That said I have never had any of my wrecks "pinched". Ever.
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Xaen
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Ilych
My 2 pence.
High sec mission running is my primary income source to let me do other things. I really could not give a toss if someone warps into my pocket and salvages a few wrecks. I still get to come back and do the wrecks with loot and then salvage those (if i can be bothered). That said I have never had any of my wrecks "pinched". Ever.
Probably why you don't care.
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Seeing EyeDog
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Xaen
Right...
OH MY GOODNESS....30 KILLS?!?!?!?!?!?!?! You're soooo ubar!!!!!
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Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.14 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Billy Sastard
You are not looking at this from the salvagers point of view, if I am salvaging, and in the same system I can choose crappy frigate wrecks in a belt, or BS and cruiser wrecks from mission runners, I am going to go out of my way to get the better wrecks, as it will put more ISK in my wallet.
Do you only salvage, thus leaving cans with the loot for the mission runner, or do you completely clear the wreck?
Just curious.
I personally have never bothered with probing out and salvaging other peoples stuff. But if I were to do so it would only make sense to just salvage and leave the loot as taking the loot from the cans will flag you as a thief, whereas just salvaging does not flag you, because salvaging others wrecks is technically not theft.
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War Fairy
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:17:00 -
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Then why did you write the OP? Man the **** up. Run missions in low sec. Problem solved.
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Randal Zentier
Aurora Security
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:29:00 -
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I salvage as I go. Hell on all but the hardest missions I salvage wrecks while I'm still fighting the rats around me. In the harder missions I salvage the group I just shot down while I'm waiting for my shields to recharge before engaging the next group. Sure it takes a little longer, but I have never had a problem with somebody coming in and "stealing" my wrecks because they are not floating around long enough for anybody else to get to them. I don't run an alt, but this surely would be even easier for those that do. Either way though complaining about it here will get you no where. You simply have to find a way around the problem.
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Forino Ovoli
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Anaalys Fluuterby
Simply, Salvaging is a mini-profession, it is not a mission runner's entitlement program. And yes, I *am* a mission runner.
Had CCP stuck by the original design and not "dumbed down" the pre-requisites for the Salvaging related skills, I'd agree with you.
Instead, it's something that a newly created character can easily do within the first day or two.
That HARDLY equates to a "mini-profession".
It also hardly equates to a mini-profession when the volume of salvage coming in to the system has driven the demand prices down to under 2000 per piece in many cases.
Argue what you want about the pros and cons of a salvage flagging system, but do not throw up the straw man argument about it being some glorified mini-profession.
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