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Vir Kotto
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:10:00 -
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IŠve heard a lot of talk about capital ship cannot jump or eaven exists in high sector. Is that true?
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:13:00 -
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I believe they can jump into and around highsec however much they want. As long as you open a cyno for them to jump to.
Either that or no, they simply can't.
It can however exist in there, just fine, if you get it in there(IE build it there, which nolonger is allowed).
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Marcathonas
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah I believe they can jump into and around highsec however much they want. As long as you open a cyno for them to jump to.
Either that or no, they simply can't.
It can however exist in there, just fine, if you get it in there(IE build it there, which nolonger is allowed).
You cannot open a cyno in hisec. Hence, capitals cant jump to hisec.
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Vir Kotto
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:16:00 -
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Well thanks for help. Althought I donŠt understand why they donŠt alloud cyno in high sector.
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Vandalias
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:19:00 -
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Balance.
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: Marcathonas
Originally by: NoNah I believe they can jump into and around highsec however much they want. As long as you open a cyno for them to jump to.
Either that or no, they simply can't.
It can however exist in there, just fine, if you get it in there(IE build it there, which nolonger is allowed).
You cannot open a cyno in hisec. Hence, capitals cant jump to hisec.
Which is pretty much exactly what I said, except I'm not sure whether you can jump to a cyno in highsec - if one would be there - or not.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Cataclysm Enterprises Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:21:00 -
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There are mostly balancing reasons. Imagine the havoc a mothership, can wreak in highsec, even if it cannot use smartbombs in fear of being concorded. Or a Moros in Siege Mode, tanking Concord while killing everything at the gate with Drones.
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Vir Kotto
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:27:00 -
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Rofl. YourŠre right. But would be fun to look at it anyway.
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Markus Aurelian
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:29:00 -
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also from an RP perspective...do you imagine the US would take kindly to a RL merc outfit like Executive Outcomes patrolling washington D.C. in armored cars and carrying machine guns? probably not. could they get away with it in an area where the nominal authority of the us government is lessened (like the middle of wyoming or something)...probably. Meatwad FTW |
NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon There are mostly balancing reasons. Imagine the havoc a mothership, can wreak in highsec, even if it cannot use smartbombs in fear of being concorded. Or a Moros in Siege Mode, tanking Concord while killing everything at the gate with Drones.
IIRC, they've changed concord quite alot, they will now drain your cap and scram you quite effectively and thus you won't be able to for very long. Not that it's reason enough, it's just a general heads up, world's changed.(or well a theory)
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ViolenTUK
Gallente Vindicated Exiles 3asy Company
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: ViolenTUK on 14/09/2007 20:41:28 Edited by: ViolenTUK on 14/09/2007 20:39:51 Capital ships cant use Stargates at all. Capital ships can use a Cynosural field to jump to areas of space 0.4 or bellow. Cynosural fields may not be started in 0.5 or higher security space.
Capital ships would really have no place in high security space. In high sec concord will protect your placer owned stations. The dreadnought was designed to siege stations as well as operate in fleet battles there would be no real reason for these types of activites in hi-sec space. Carriers and motherships were designed for fleet support they also have station maintance bays and corporation hangers which are all usefull in areas with no npc stations.
High security space is typicaly very busy and adding capital ships and fleet warfare would lag the server node up very badly. Can anyone imagine a few carriers and their fighter deployed in Jita?
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Allestin Villimar
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:44:00 -
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...but can they be manufactured in high sec?
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Joel Backman
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Allestin Villimar ...but can they be manufactured in high sec?
yes
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Chainsaw Plankton on 14/09/2007 20:53:12
Originally by: Joel Backman
Originally by: Allestin Villimar ...but can they be manufactured in high sec?
yes
no, apparently they unanchored all large ship assembly arrays unless they can be made in station. or if they went back on that decision.
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ViolenTUK
Gallente Vindicated Exiles 3asy Company
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Posted - 2007.09.14 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: ViolenTUK on 14/09/2007 20:55:11 I will answer that question by saying no. You cant purchase an array that can be anchored in high security space. However in the past this was possible and some of the arrays are still anchored and in use. These arrays may still be used to manufacture capitals in high sec space to my best knowledge. The answer could be interpreted as yes. I have heard that these were unanchored i cant confirm this but that would mean it could onlly be done at a npc station.
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Twin blade
Minmatar The Triangle
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: Twin blade on 14/09/2007 22:04:37 Think of the whine's if you ever got a mothership/titan on a rampage in jita it would just destroy every thing and be able to log out to avoid death due to insane hp.
I know the ship would be destroyed by a gm if they loged out to avoid death.
I am sure the ammout of whine topic's on the fourms alone would crash the sever nvm the 700+ people that are out side jita 4-4 if all poped by a DD at once. !
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Reem Fairchild
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Joel Backman
Originally by: Allestin Villimar ...but can they be manufactured in high sec?
yes
No. Only low-sec and 0.0.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2007.09.15 00:53:00 -
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You used to be able to use arrays set up in highsec before capital ships were regulated to lowsec to construct them, and thus deploy them in highsec, but this is no longer possible.
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Vitrael
Warriors of the Einherjar Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.09.15 02:20:00 -
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What above poster said, only take into account that there are still some capitals in high sec that never left low-sec after the capital ship yards were unanchored.
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Valea
Wrath Of Khaine Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.15 02:59:00 -
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Shoot someone in highsec > jump to lowsec.
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Arcadia1701
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.09.15 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Valea Shoot someone in highsec > jump to lowsec.
Yes they can, its the Cyno field itself that cant be turned on in 0.5 and above. but u are able ot jump out of high sec, and into lowsec. My sig>
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Taran Blake
De Re Metallica
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Posted - 2007.09.15 06:25:00 -
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They also changed Freighters so that they couldn't be repackaged and moved around that way as well.
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Vir Kotto
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:43:00 -
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If someone read this another question. How do you secure capital ships, without a POS as you cannot dock it, when your logged off?
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Ctharth
Frontier Innovation Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2007.09.15 13:50:00 -
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either stay in the ship yourself and log out in space, or train an alt to just be able to board it and log out
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 14:21:00 -
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First of all, carriers and dreadnoughts can dock. Secondly, as for highsec capital ships
Back when capital ships were first built, CCP had already intended them to be lowsec ships, and so restricted cyno fields to lowsec. However, they neglected the ability of players to build them in highsec (though of course you can't jump it anywhere but a lowsec system). So, for a short interval, players anchored cap ship building arrays in highsec, and produced a number of highsec capital ships. CCP shortly *****ed down on them, and now no new capital ship arrays can be built in highsec, and the existing highsec cap ships have a few restrictions: they CANNOT engage in combat, and of course they cannot move to another highsec system. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars. |
Barbens
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:28:00 -
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Because this "high sector" is only for ships that are stoned. Most ships prefer to stay happily, sober. Only the really bad ones go to the "high sector"...
BaRbEnS
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Rudy Metallo
The Bastards
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Posted - 2007.09.15 15:52:00 -
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A while ago, two guys had dreads built in Jita. When they were completed, they hopped into them, and flew around jita popping everything they could reach, meanwhile tanking concord easy-like.
This is why CCP outlawed capitals in highsec. Say what? |
Xequecal
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:06:00 -
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CONCORD doesn't do enough damage to pop capital ships, so a Titan pilot could DD 4-4 in Jita, turn his reppers on, and CTRL+Q. Tank CONCORD for 15 mins while offline, then his ship disappears. Come back in an hour and do it again.
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.09.15 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Xequecal CONCORD doesn't do enough damage to pop capital ships, so a Titan pilot could DD 4-4 in Jita, turn his reppers on, and CTRL+Q. Tank CONCORD for 15 mins while offline, then his ship disappears. Come back in an hour and do it again.
Nope. Concord very, very quickly neutralises your cap. Nothing can tank it.
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Temp Boi
Gr0und Zer0
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Posted - 2007.09.16 17:14:00 -
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Concord cannot be tanked, it doesn't matter what you're in. I've tried it on the test server. My friend had a fully tanked out chimera. His cap was insta-neuted, he went from having full hitpoints to popping in under 20 seconds.
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