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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
101010 Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.18 14:18:00 -
[31]
This sounds pretty awful if it's indeed true and not caused by SBs.
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Slayton Ford
Uninvited Guests
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Posted - 2007.09.18 14:41:00 -
[32]
One thing about probers is that many times a warp in spot is close to something that decloaks you (dust cloads are very annoying).
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.18 15:12:00 -
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I bet concord's killboard kicks ass!
Thats clearly a big screw up. I had concord pwn me for nos'ing a wreck .. gg
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Marine HK4861
Caldari
Seoltachd
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Posted - 2007.09.18 16:43:00 -
[34]
 Originally by: Zo5o
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maybe the blast radius off a torp?
I was under the impression this no longer set off Concord, since players were being Concordokkened for using torps against legitimate war targets near empire stations and gates.
Missiles and torpedos no longer have a blast radius for the above mentioned reason.
As far as I know, the only weapons with a blast radius are ECM bursts, smart bombs, bombs from stealth bombers and doomsday devices.
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CCP Casqade
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Posted - 2007.09.18 17:11:00 -
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If this happens please submit a bug report where you include:
*Agent name
*Mission name
*Mission system
*Date and time
*And what object/NPC you shot at. (Should be shown in your logs)
1. Read this: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=585921
2. Go here: https://bugs.eve-online.com/
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386i no0b
Original Mo0 Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.18 17:36:00 -
[36]
Always fraps missions?
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Ciaphas Loken
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Posted - 2007.09.18 17:51:00 -
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I got global flag for shield repping npc Red's no concord or station/gate gun response.
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.18 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ciaphas Loken
I got global flag for shield repping npc Red's no concord or station/gate gun response.
Intended behavior, they altered that a few patches ago.
But that isn't what this thread is about....
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
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Aleksi Maksimovich
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Posted - 2007.09.18 20:44:00 -
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ironically i end up with fraps of most of my missions as im messing about making a movie.... question is would devs take that as evidence??
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Mikal Drey
Angels and Demons
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Posted - 2007.09.18 20:47:00 -
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hey hey
Looking at the OP's description of events id say that something else happened to cause the CONCORD Blobage.
1) CONCORD will only intervene if you commited a criminal act.
If a criminal act was committed during the mission CONCORD will warp in and shoot the crap out of you regardless of your location but the OP clearly stated that he only got the BBQ invite AFTER warping out the mission.
Was it Definately CONCORD ?
2) Did you pick up any Drugs/Contraband during the mission ?
3) Did you shoot a Structure of any kind ?
You often get a warning that you will get a penalty and possibly shot at if you shoot certain mission strutures. If you shot a Galllente Faction Structure you could nave been criminally flagged to Gallente and when you warped to the gate/station they shot you
Dunno but i certainly feel that you may have missed something
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2007.09.18 23:46:00 -
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Please make sure that you didn't remote repair a criminal NPC, intentionally or by mistake. Aiding criminal NPCs in high-sec will entail CONCORD action.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
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Devian 666
Sectoid Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.19 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Devian 666 on 19/09/2007 00:11:30
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Please make sure that you didn't remote repair a criminal NPC, intentionally or by mistake. Aiding criminal NPCs in high-sec will entail CONCORD action.
This is incorrect. I have tested the mechanic repeatly on the test server and have GM confirmation of the following.
If you remote rep an NPC pirate (something with an associated sec status increase and concorde storyline pirates) you will receive a GCC flag only. Concorde does not respond as this is the current mechanic. (edit: sentry guns and faction police will not appreciate you being there if you're within range)
My opinion is that it should invoke a Concorde response to stop some of the mischief that's been going on.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star.
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Strife Phoenix
Acerbus Vindictum
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Posted - 2007.09.19 08:07:00 -
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This is not limited to missions. I got blown up by concord as soon as I logged in this morning, below is the complete scenario, starting yesterday evening.
While exploring in a lowsec system I noticed a Retriever mining in a belt guarded by a Scorpion. After clearing the site of npc and hacking all cans I warped to station and switched to my Drake.
As I undocked and warped to a safespot I noticed the Drake was at 60% shields and thought it was a bit odd. Waited for the shield to recharge then warped to the belt and killed the two ships there.
Looted and warped to another safespot and waited out the gcc before heading back to station and once again switch to my Buzzard.
As soon as I undocked the sentries engaged me and I noticed I had a new GCC starting at 12 minutes, this time I got lucky and warped off in 40% structure.. towards another gate. Cloaked and set gate as destination and enabled autopilot and managed to jump through again warping off and cloaking as soon as possible to avoid sentry fire. GCC again reset to 12 minutes.
As it was getting late I figured I'd log in space and continue the trip this morning and the faulty GCC would be gone with the relog. This morning I logged on and jumped through to the next system (0.9 sec) and was instapopped by concord. My secstatus is not below the limits, I had no GCC when I logged on, but as soon as I jumped systems it again appeared at 12 minutes.
To me it looks like the GCC appears with sessionchanges as each and every time I undocked, jumped and so on the GCC was reset at 12 minutes.
Bugreport and petition filed.
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Hephaesteus
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.19 10:41:00 -
[44]
Talk about a game breaking bug. 
Think I'll stick with cheap ships for a few days just in case.
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General Myx
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Posted - 2007.09.19 11:39:00 -
[45]
That's Hoborak Moon... always trying new ways to fight back.
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Major Death
Caldari
Space Salvage Incorperated
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Posted - 2007.09.19 13:08:00 -
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I have got GCCs for shooting structures in missions, even though the buildings were listed as WANTED (and didn't give the warning about attacking a civilian faction). This all happened in the past couple of weeks. Had to wait out the GCC before completing the mission.
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Kyreax
Deepspace Exploration Biscuit Repair Associates
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Posted - 2007.09.19 17:37:00 -
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THE DAY OF RECKONING HATH COME!
Concord is on the loose!
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
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Posted - 2007.09.19 17:55:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Strife Phoenix
To me it looks like the GCC appears with sessionchanges as each and every time I undocked, jumped and so on the GCC was reset at 12 minutes.
Bugreport and petition filed.
This has been the case since I started playing.
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Pwett
CEO and Founder
[QTC]QUANT Corp.
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RadioStar
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.09.19 18:33:00 -
[49]
this is confirmed. i got global red flagged shield repping a friend in a mission. concord shot me. it was silence the informant lvl4
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Anaalys Fluuterby
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.19 19:07:00 -
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Edited by: Anaalys Fluuterby on 19/09/2007 19:07:47
Originally by: RadioStar
this is confirmed. i got global red flagged shield repping a friend in a mission. concord shot me. it was silence the informant lvl4
Are you in the same corp?
If not shield repping IS considered a hostile action, even if you are in the same alliance or gang.
But this happens with single players, no remote repping, no gang, nothing. A friend of mine lost an Absolution to it a couple of days ago flying solo.
Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Since this thread continues to fight against the people who derail it into the macro miners witchhunt. I will move it to features and ideas discussion where ...
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2007.09.20 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Please make sure that you didn't remote repair a criminal NPC, intentionally or by mistake. Aiding criminal NPCs in high-sec will entail CONCORD action.
This is incorrect. I have tested the mechanic repeatly on the test server and have GM confirmation of the following.
If you remote rep an NPC pirate (something with an associated sec status increase and concorde storyline pirates) you will receive a GCC flag only. Concorde does not respond as this is the current mechanic. (edit: sentry guns and faction police will not appreciate you being there if you're within range)
Yes and no.
The intended game mechanic is as follows: Aiding criminal NPCs in high-sec will entail immediate CONCORD action.
This was implemented in Revelations II because of grieving issues. Before this tactic could be used to kill players who were up against warp scrambling NPCs, if you armor/shield repaired the warp scramblers the player couldn't kill them and he couldn't warp away either due to the warp scrambling effect (and therefore slowly died).
Due to a defect, however, this mechanic may sometimes appear inconsistent and random since the current game mechanic on Tranquility is that aiding criminal NPCs in high-sec will give you a GCC flag and entail CONCORD action as soon as you make a session change (e.g, jump a stargate or dock/undock).
This issue has been fixed and we are now debating whether to release that fix soon or wait until Revelations III.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
EVE Online, CCP Games |
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.09.20 10:37:00 -
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When you fix it please make that confirmation box for criminal act also available.
I have relased my repair drones on NPC instead of my wingman once by mistake and there was no warning box. I just got the 'red timer' but no CONCORD fortunately. So I just sitted there for 15 minutes doing as little noise as possible after I figured out that CONCORD is not coming after first 30 or so seconds.
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Mikal Drey
Angels and Demons
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Posted - 2007.09.20 11:05:00 -
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this defect . . ..
Are you guys aware that its the Drones that are causing the problem ?
As repair drones will also wander off randomly and/or repair an NPC due to it being shot at. Anyone who Deliberatly repairs an npc using a remote repair mod certainly does deserve to be CONCORD loved but it seems that most people are innocently being blown up due to wandering drones.
Carniflex : If your drones wander off you still wouldnt get the warning pop up :(
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2007.09.20 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mikal Drey
Are you guys aware that its the Drones that are causing the problem ?
There are unfortunately also some inconsistencies there as well and we have a fix for that, still to be released.
We are also contemplating to have different warning messages for low-sec and high-sec and make the high-sec warnings non-suppressible. But no decision on that yet. Input welcome 
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson
Software Director
EVE Online, CCP Games |
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.20 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Mikal Drey
Are you guys aware that its the Drones that are causing the problem ?
There are unfortunately also some inconsistencies there as well and we have a fix for that, still to be released.
We are also contemplating to have different warning messages for low-sec and high-sec and make the high-sec warnings non-suppressible. But no decision on that yet. Input welcome
I am all for that. Would probably lower petition amount, and also irritate suicide gankers
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Strife Phoenix
Acerbus Vindictum
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Posted - 2007.09.20 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Pwett
Originally by: Strife Phoenix
To me it looks like the GCC appears with sessionchanges as each and every time I undocked, jumped and so on the GCC was reset at 12 minutes.
Bugreport and petition filed.
This has been the case since I started playing.
Even though you could not possible have had the time to engage in illegal activities?
As I stated. I logged on after several hours, no timer, jumped through gate, CONCORDONKED, new timer 12 minutes..
And to answer the drones statement. I did not use drones on the NPC's since I was flying with EW.. then again about 20 minutes before I started seeing oddities I happened to kill another player.. sry
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.09.20 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Mikal Drey
Carniflex : If your drones wander off you still wouldnt get the warning pop up :(
In my case I actually managed to order them on NPC instead of my wingman  Needless to say I was not very pleased with myself as my wingman had logistic drones on me already and my imagination got real busy imaging how 2 CNR's with fittings I would rather not like to replace go up in two nice explosions in rapid order.
What ****ed me during those 30 seconds when I tried to recall my alt's drones before CONCORD arrives (as thats the way it goes usually with red timer in hi sec without wardec) was lack of confirmation box. I normally pay attention to what I'm doing it's just that I was taking rather heavy fire and thus lagged a bit so those lil critters ended up on NPC instead of my alt.
I have not had a pleasure to see logistic drones to switch targets on their own. They usually stick rather fanatically to the target they are assigned to. Granted I usually use them from relatively short distances (under 20 km).
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Devian 666
Sectoid Technologies
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Posted - 2007.09.20 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Devian 666
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Please make sure that you didn't remote repair a criminal NPC, intentionally or by mistake. Aiding criminal NPCs in high-sec will entail CONCORD action.
This is incorrect. I have tested the mechanic repeatly on the test server and have GM confirmation of the following.
If you remote rep an NPC pirate (something with an associated sec status increase and concorde storyline pirates) you will receive a GCC flag only. Concorde does not respond as this is the current mechanic. (edit: sentry guns and faction police will not appreciate you being there if you're within range)
Yes and no.
The intended game mechanic is as follows: Aiding criminal NPCs in high-sec will entail immediate CONCORD action.
This was implemented in Revelations II because of grieving issues. Before this tactic could be used to kill players who were up against warp scrambling NPCs, if you armor/shield repaired the warp scramblers the player couldn't kill them and he couldn't warp away either due to the warp scrambling effect (and therefore slowly died).
Due to a defect, however, this mechanic may sometimes appear inconsistent and random since the current game mechanic on Tranquility is that aiding criminal NPCs in high-sec will give you a GCC flag and entail CONCORD action as soon as you make a session change (e.g, jump a stargate or dock/undock).
This issue has been fixed and we are now debating whether to release that fix soon or wait until Revelations III.
Good to hear that there's a fix in the works. The people using it just wait out the gcc timer or could dock and undock in a shuttle thus exploiting the mechanic.
Thanks for the response.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star.
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Dr Hazman
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Posted - 2007.09.20 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Explorer
This issue has been fixed and we are now debating whether to release that fix soon or wait until Revelations III.
i would do it as a fix as for some plexes this is a real problem and is also being exploited a lot. i know a fare few ppl that have been killed this way and if it is a exploit in a way because of game inconsistancy im very surprised i and mates have not been reinbursed. haz
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Esaka
Taxbreak
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Posted - 2007.09.20 20:02:00 -
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Personally I would prefer some sort of client option that being enabled would prevent any troubles with concord. But I guess that wouldn't be in line with the rest of the eve philosophy and could raise programming issues (like a drone that's repping a target, which aggresses concord, so the drone would automaticly need to stop working once that happens).
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