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Vort X
EON Order
Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.09.15 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: Vort X on 15/09/2007 21:48:01
1. Choose a superior power who threatens you the most
2. Forget your ego, selfishness
3. NAP everyone who thinking the same way
4. Open at least 3 battlefronts in enemy territory with your joint forces
For the first 4 points, we've seen a good example lately, it is how to start a winning startegy. But since we now discuss how to loose, now let's continue on topic.
5. Underestimate your enemy
6. Get back your ego and selfishness again
7. Search for more convenient fights closeby
8. Forget those allies on the far battlefields and leave them alone
9. Start your own war on an ally, search for reason and justify
10. Shoot the small ex-blue guys near your home and watch your friends slaugtered far away
Good job, you might won a battle but at least loosing a war.
Mission : Completed
I don't want to call out names but many will recognize themselves who cares to read. The names are always different in time anyways, but the strategy stays. There are no use to point fingers.
I've seen this strategy not only once but many times in the eve history. I think it's so popular that you might want to learn the process too.
Enjoy
(this is my personal opinion and do not represent my corporation or alliance)
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Darknesss
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.15 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: Darknesss on 15/09/2007 21:54:33
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Seldarine
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 22:02:00 -
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I dont understand the 10 days part, does each of those things have to be done on each consecutive day ? and if you take for example two days to complete one of them does that mean you no longer loose your war ?
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Seldarine
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.09.15 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Omega Man on 15/09/2007 22:04:56
I never really appreciated the BOB forum warriors until I saw the alternative.
Now when BOB posts its a refreshing change from the drivel usually posted.
Today are the good times you are going to wish for tomorrow so careful what you wish for.
Oh and to OP, crappy strategy, i doubt even you could lose a war in ten days using it.
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Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner
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Vort X
EON Order
Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.09.15 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: Vort X on 15/09/2007 22:13:03
 Originally by: Seldarine
I dont understand the 10 days part, does each of those things have to be done on each consecutive day ? and if you take for example two days to complete one of them does that mean you no longer loose your war ?
The meaning of the post is not the time, It could be 100 days, it doesn't really matter.
The 10 days part used for marketing reasons, to grab some attention (there is a movie similar to the topic title)  .
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.09.15 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Vort X
(there is a movie similar to the topic title) .
Romantic comedies ftfl, tbfh.
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Tarantelita
Ragna Rok Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.15 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Seldarine
I dont understand the 10 days part, does each of those things have to be done on each consecutive day ? and if you take for example two days to complete one of them does that mean you no longer loose your war ?
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Tarantelita
Ragna Rok Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.15 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Seldarine
I dont understand the 10 days part, does each of those things have to be done on each consecutive day ? and if you take for example two days to complete one of them does that mean you no longer loose your war ?
Do you feel that some one poits a finger to you? 
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ForumPosterAlt
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.09.15 23:32:00 -
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'lose'
or if you're british, 'louse' (they put a 'u' behind every 'o')
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papaPadla
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.15 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Seldarine
I dont understand the 10 days part, does each of those things have to be done on each consecutive day ? and if you take for example two days to complete one of them does that mean you no longer loose your war ?
I'm with seld on this one... say you need a day for rl stuff... or a week, then you are winning the war even if you are not logged in game?
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Kraang
Momentum.
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Posted - 2007.09.16 00:37:00 -
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If you are loosing the war, you just might consider tightening it a little bit.
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Skelator
Stronghold corp
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.16 00:41:00 -
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The ALT-FORCE is strong in this one
Our Knights/GhostFleet are available for small honorable contracts.
Phasmatis Velox Equitatus
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Ramlir
0.0 Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.16 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Omega Man
Edited by: Omega Man on 15/09/2007 22:04:56
I never really appreciated the BOB forum warriors until I saw the alternative.
Now when BOB posts its a refreshing change from the drivel usually posted.
Today are the good times you are going to wish for tomorrow so careful what you wish for.
Oh and to OP, crappy strategy, i doubt even you could lose a war in ten days using it.
QFT
Finally we are back in the glory days of CAOD. BoB defending lag and papapadla's Borat-esque smack is such a refreshing change.
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2007.09.16 01:33:00 -
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respect
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Fader Bane
Black Knight Buccaneers
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Posted - 2007.09.16 01:42:00 -
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lose*
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.16 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Darknesss
Edited by: Darknesss on 15/09/2007 21:54:33
I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Originally by: consider telos
..then we had a fight and he was so dead and
then I like became champion of eve and then
ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked
me to go out with him on a date to mcD' |
The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.16 02:39:00 -
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Been there, done that
Became a scumbag empire pirate as a result, at least I have fun now...
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Nahia Senne
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.16 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: The Hooch
Been there, done that
Became a scumbag empire pirate as a result, at least I have fun now...
Been there, done that for almost 2 years. Got bored and joined BoB.
Lag produces many whines, but in truth its rather rare and commonly happens only when goons are in question. Having a greater goal and enemies who seriously hate you also helps to increase my fun factor 
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2007.09.16 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Vort X
(there is a movie similar to the topic title) .
Romantic comedies ftfl, tbfh.
it gets the chicks.. tbqfh. but by the looks of some of the sigs on these forums that might not be a goal. (do people who like the same sex <forum filters are getting WAY too suppressive> like romantic comedies too? as a general stereotype, of course) 
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.09.16 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: Empyre
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Vort X
(there is a movie similar to the topic title) .
Romantic comedies ftfl, tbfh.
it gets the chicks.. tbqfh. but by the looks of some of the sigs on these forums that might not be a goal. (do people who like the same sex <forum filters are getting WAY too suppressive> like romantic comedies too? as a general stereotype, of course)
rofl. TouchT, good sir
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.16 05:03:00 -
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can i write a "how to lose alliance space in 3 days or less"?...ermm times 4?
anyhow... advice free of charge: Sh00t back!!! and do that moar than 1 timez!!!
<3 lub u long time
i wlcome the commin bl0b!!
The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones!
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.16 05:35:00 -
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This is what happens with none pvp based alliances. War, everyone yells YARRRRR and joins up. People start losing ships and they say F this. Others try to mine and rat and their systems are not safe so they say F this. Pvp'rs see that they are the only ones in the gang and say F this. The alliance folds and everyone spits off to different alliances/ do their own thing.
Now if its a pvp based alliance, it takes a whole lot of time and dedication to defeat them. When they lose battles, they chalk it up to experience, not omg we are doomed head to empire 111111!!!!!.
Best thing to do is contract me all your stuff and play WOW or something. Unless u are willing to fight for what u got, in that case send me an eve mail and i join up with ya.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN
Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.09.16 06:31:00 -
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I dont know what this post is about but I am very glad you are not the slightest bit bitter!
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.16 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79
This is what happens with none pvp based alliances. War, everyone yells YARRRRR and joins up. People start losing ships and they say F this. Others try to mine and rat and their systems are not safe so they say F this. Pvp'rs see that they are the only ones in the gang and say F this. The alliance folds and everyone spits off to different alliances/ do their own thing.
Now if its a pvp based alliance, it takes a whole lot of time and dedication to defeat them. When they lose battles, they chalk it up to experience, not omg we are doomed head to empire 111111!!!!!.
Best thing to do is contract me all your stuff and play WOW or something. Unless u are willing to fight for what u got, in that case send me an eve mail and i join up with ya.
*******
Spot on tbh =o
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Stealth bombers work! |
sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente
The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2007.09.16 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79
This is what happens with none pvp based alliances. War, everyone yells YARRRRR and joins up. People start losing ships and they say F this. Others try to mine and rat and their systems are not safe so they say F this. Pvp'rs see that they are the only ones in the gang and say F this. The alliance folds and everyone spits off to different alliances/ do their own thing.
Thats about right tbh.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.16 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79
This is what happens with none pvp based alliances. War, everyone yells YARRRRR and joins up. People start losing ships and they say F this. Others try to mine and rat and their systems are not safe so they say F this. Pvp'rs see that they are the only ones in the gang and say F this. The alliance folds and everyone spits off to different alliances/ do their own thing.
Now if its a pvp based alliance, it takes a whole lot of time and dedication to defeat them. When they lose battles, they chalk it up to experience, not omg we are doomed head to empire 111111!!!!!.
Best thing to do is contract me all your stuff and play WOW or something. Unless u are willing to fight for what u got, in that case send me an eve mail and i join up with ya.
*******
You're my forum hero, das 
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There's no such thing as playing too much EvE!
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Vort X
EON Order
Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.09.16 09:57:00 -
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Edited by: Vort X on 16/09/2007 10:00:57
Clue, a recent example for the guide:
Northern & Southern Coalition and IACAAA fighting for the same goal, while the whole drone region started to shoot each other. Last time i checked they were also part and fought for the coalition.
The region should have the power to re-open the northern battlefront, help IACAAA or anything else to split the forces from the OOY steamroll. But it seems I'm misinformed and this is already on the 9th day.
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Snake Jankins
Minmatar
German Cyberdome Corp
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.16 10:45:00 -
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Edited by: Snake Jankins on 16/09/2007 10:56:23
Originally by: Vort X
Edited by: Vort X on 16/09/2007 10:00:57
Clue, a recent example for the guide:
Northern & Southern Coalition and IACAAA fighting for the same goal, while the whole drone region started to shoot each other. Last time i checked they were also part and fought for the coalition.
The region should have the power to re-open the northern battlefront, help IACAAA or anything else to split the forces from the OOY steamroll. But it seems I'm misinformed and this is already on the 9th day.
So you say people are getting bored of this good vs. evil war and are having their own regional conflicts again ? Was about time to be honest. Players were reduced to being pro-bob anti-bob or pro-goon, anti-goon and bitter 1-man corp alts tried to keep things running that way.
Maybe now people start to show them the finger and think for themselves again. Nice.
Just my personal view of course.
That you have BOB/GOON red or blue doesn't mean that you can't fight your own wars.
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.16 12:06:00 -
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Originally by: Darknesss
Edited by: Darknesss on 15/09/2007 21:54:33
best post in this thread tbh 
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Admiral Nova
Strike Team Nova
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Posted - 2007.09.16 16:40:00 -
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?? I know SMASHKill lit up the drone regions the other week, however everyone who was blue to them 3 months ago is blue at the moment... as far as I know...
And SMASHKill never started a war against BoB or MC, they helped RAGoon in 77s area ( along time ago now) and Razor up north as far as I know.
Now that almost sounds like FREGE but I can't be sure, because to be honest, that description doesn't seem to fit anyone...
I'm pretty sure most of Eve don't really care about BoBMcFix vs IACRAGOONAAA etc... I mean, for most people the longer that war stays in 'stalemate' the better.
Anyway, perhaps I don't know enough about who you're referring to to spot them.
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SunglassesInSpace
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.16 17:31:00 -
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Someone should tell Nate
Hammertown.
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Jenna Shame
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Posted - 2007.09.16 17:33:00 -
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My guess is that for some, joining forces with the goons just isn't worth any short term gains. Short term because if Bob and allies were to lose, we know how long it will take before the goons turn on their 'friends' and RA goes back to controlling the real money.
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Vort X
EON Order
Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.09.16 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Snake Jankins
So you say people are getting bored of this good vs. evil war and are having their own regional conflicts again ? Was about time to be honest. Players were reduced to being pro-bob anti-bob or pro-goon, anti-goon and bitter 1-man corp alts tried to keep things running that way.
Maybe now people start to show them the finger and think for themselves again. Nice. That you have BOB/GOON red or blue doesn't mean that you can't fight your own wars.[/quote
I like your response, it makes sense and to be honest I haven't thought of this. Good point. I'm sick of this war too, and prefer local, smaller warfare than lagbattles 50+ jumps away. This is one of the reasons that I'd prefer to finish this war instead of pulling back at strategically important times.
It happened about 6 months ago in Feyth, then it got steamrolled. It happens now and who knows what happens next.
But I have no desire to start it over again from scratch 6 months later.
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Privious
Caldari
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.17 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Privious on 17/09/2007 11:56:38
How to lose a war in 10 days... Wardec some nber Omfgwtf1337bbq alliance and surrender after 10 days.
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Johnny Ringo
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Evil Pookie
I dont know what this post is about but I am very glad you are not the slightest bit bitter!
Been meaning to say this, and you've probably heard it a million times before, but I LOVE the BE sig! 
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Nlewis
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:21:00 -
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came for what was read as how to lose a guy in 10 days. didnt stay
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Hyakuchan
Earth Federation Space Force
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Posted - 2007.09.18 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Privious
Edited by: Privious on 17/09/2007 11:56:38
How to lose a war in 10 days... Wardec Concord.
Fixed.
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FRIGATS Coalition
FREGE-Red-IAC-Goon-AAA-Tau-Southerncross
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violator2k5
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.19 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Vort X
while the entire drone region started to shoot each other. Last time I checked they were also part and fought for the coalition. Now they do a favor for their enemy.
you answered this post very well with this comment
Originally by: Vort X
I'm sick of this war too, and prefer local, smaller warfare than lagbattles 50+ jumps away.
i believe the lag says it all for them tbh, theres to many numbers involved in this war and getting a fight where its bareable was probably seen as to difficult so they looked else where for a little fun
Originally by: Admiral Nova
I'm pretty sure most of Eve don't really care about BoBMcFix vs IACRAGOONAAA etc... I mean, for most people the longer that war stays in 'stalemate' the better.
i wouldnt say that, a lot of people are very interested in eve politics both on and off of CAOD and speaking from a industrial point of view those who are building ammo / items / ships are doing very well out of this isk wise so they'll probably want this war to continue on for a long time so they can milk it for all its worth.
Originally by: Vort X
But I have no desire to start it over again from scratch 6 months later.
imo it would be very interesting to see how things would turn out if it did start again, especially with the new pos additions that CCP put in the game
would the alliance fortify their system defences more aggressivly?
would the coalation make the mistakes that they did previously?
would both sides still be as battle hardened as they are now?
i think out of all the questions running through my mind about this battle the only question that is clearly obvious to have a "yes" answer to would be this one
would CAOD and local still be a smack haven for some?
either way this war is still far from over and both sides are getting the fight that they want maybe not exactly what they wanted due to the lag and desync crap but still a fight none the less.
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Oofig VanDoogan
The Knighthawks
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.19 01:56:00 -
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SO HOWS THIS GOING FOR YOU GUYS SO FAR?
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