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Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.16 16:28:00 - [31] Originally by: Tenerhaddi Originally by: Jago Kain Hmmm.... Does this mean we can expect a Colin McRae's Helicopter Challenge air-crash sim now? And if so, will it suck as badly as some of the rally games? whats with people! show some fecking respect Respect for what exactly? The Colin McCrae rally games sucked. The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.
Femaref Caldari Mercenaries of Andosia Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.09.16 16:46:00 - [32] For him, not the ******* games!
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.16 16:54:00 - [33] Too Soon? The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Cataclysm Enterprises Kraftwerk.	Posted - 2007.09.16 17:03:00 - [34] I have never played the games so I do not comment on them and I think, it would be inappropriate. He died in a Helicopter accident and a few other people as well, so please show your respect. If you wish to talk about other matters, start your own thread. Thank you.
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.16 17:42:00 - [35] Originally by: Deviana Sevidon I have never played the games so I do not comment on them and I think, it would be inappropriate. He died in a Helicopter accident and a few other people as well, so please show your respect. If you wish to talk about other matters, start your own thread. Thank you. I did play the games, briefly, and I do consider it appropriate to comment. The Colin McCrae games were over-hyped, badly designed and executed pieces of not-nice. The only reason so many copies sold was the dubious link to a Scottish sportsman who actually managed to win events; something of a novelty. Why do you think we've never seen EA Sports Scottish Premier League Football 200? Because no-one would buy it given Scotland's dismal record as regards the beautiful game. It'd be a bit like a George Bush edition of the famous boardgame, Diplomacy... (afterthought: although possibly that could be marketed as Gunboat Diplomacy and might sell after all). As for death; folk die all the time. My respect for Mr McCrae's accomplishments as a rally driver is undiminished by the fact that he is no longer with us. My contempt for the games sold by his name is similarily undiminished. As for what is a suitable subject for humour, that's a very personal thing and I refuse to be bound by other peoples' idea of what constitutes respect. Anyone who has never* told, or laughed at, a joke about someone who has died is welcome to be upset by my (possibly) poor attempt at gallows humour (does anybody remember laughter?). The rest of you are hypocrites who can blow it out of your afterburner as far as I'm concerned. Discuss. The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.
Terranid Meester Knights Hospitalier	Posted - 2007.09.16 17:56:00 - [36] Originally by: Steneskoj Uhm, when did Richard Burns die? I had no idea :/ 2005 from cancer. A brain tumour was found after he blacked out in a rally car in the Great Britain rally in Wales the year before I believe.
Born Slippy	Posted - 2007.09.16 17:58:00 - [37] My sister came back with a Collin McRae game for her PS2 today! R.I.P amazing driver.
Bosie Caldari Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.16 18:02:00 - [38] Originally by: Jago Kain Trash Shut up you tool. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is EN
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.16 18:05:00 - [39] Edited by: Jago Kain on 16/09/2007 18:05:21 Originally by: Bosie Originally by: Jago Kain Trash Shut up you tool. No. I offer reasoned arguments for my stance and the best you can come up with is verbal abuse. 3/10 Not your best work. edited for bad speling; poste in haste, edit at leisure The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.
Benilopax Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies	Posted - 2007.09.16 18:08:00 - [40] Originally by: Jago Kain Edited by: Jago Kain on 16/09/2007 18:05:21 Originally by: Bosie Originally by: Jago Kain Trash Shut up you tool. No. I offer reasoned arguments for my stance and the best you can come up with is verbal abuse. 3/10 Not your best work. edited for bad speling; poste in haste, edit at leisure I would say it's a little harsh to make light of an accident which killed two small children as well as some guy who did a fine job at rallying but had games that sucked linked to him. Especially on the very same day it was formally announced. ------------------------------ Benilopax touched by an Avon!
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.16 18:15:00 - [41] Originally by: Benilopax I would say it's a little harsh to make light of an accident which killed two small children as well as some guy who did a fine job at rallying but had games that sucked linked to him. Especially on the very same day it was formally announced. Ah! Reasoned debate at last. Your opinion is noted. However, I disagree with it; a subject is either fit for humour, or it is not, timing is irrelevant. How many times have famous/infamous people died and the first you know about it is a mate sending you a text joke about it? Is it not said, "If I didn't laugh, I'd cry"? Well, I for one refuse to cry. The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.
Benilopax Gallente Pulsar Combat Supplies	Posted - 2007.09.16 18:25:00 - [42] I agree with your argument, however was it not said that the secret of comedy was timing? Joking about the loss of four human beings two of which were children with a whole life ahead of them, should be left for some time at least, and perhaps not used in a thread of condolence? Start your own jokes about Colin McRae thread, at least we can choose not to read it. ------------------------------ Benilopax touched by an Avon!
QwaarJet Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.09.16 18:35:00 - [43] Edited by: QwaarJet on 16/09/2007 18:36:37 Great. Jago has turned this into a flamefest. Why cant people just be respectful? He's JUST died ffs. Oh, and this disagrees with your typical ignorant comments towards Scotland : Interesting group table Although you are right, the SPL is pretty bad, except for Rangers, Celtic and possibly Hearts.
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.16 18:46:00 - [44] Originally by: QwaarJet ...He's JUST died ffs... I refer the right honourable gentleman to my previous comment. You are right about the group table though... Scotland is holding it's own against such mighty footballing nations as Ukraine, Lithuania and the Faroe Islands. Incidentally, I am available for childrens parties. The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.
Tenerhaddi Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2007.09.16 18:48:00 - [45] Originally by: Jago Kain long post of crap WEll done really well done! Showing how arrogant you are to this post. This is a post of a driver who died and other who were with him. Not about how crap this game was. That is for another thread to be done as well Your just for this BS. Talk about disrespectful on this subject. Now get over your self and get a life chav Just to make it clear to you Games in another thread! I hope the mods snip your posts as you derailing the topic ---------------- http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1771556
Bosie Caldari Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.09.16 18:50:00 - [46] Originally by: Jago Kain Crap Mate, the guy and his baby boy just died. You are a ******* tool. "There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is EN
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.16 19:00:00 - [47] Originally by: Tenerhaddi Originally by: Jago Kain long post of crap slightly shorter post in very bad English You are missing the point. I have the utmost respect for Colin McCrae as a rally driver; he's just not that good a pilot it would seem. The "target" in my original comment was intended to be the gaming industry, who will use whatever they can to sell substandard wares to impressionable fan-bois who wouldn't know a decent game if they fell over it. I fully expect whoever has the rights to rush out another three poorly put together games as quickly as they can before the public at large forgets who Colin McCrae is/was. As for me being a chav... oh dear... more verbal abuse masqeurading as an argument. Define chav anyway; it seems to me to be this years default insult when those of limited intellect and vocabulary can think of nothing better to say. Life is both harsh and cruel and folk will find humour in the darkest subjects. At worst I am guilty of being slightly faster off the mark than the rest of the EVE community. Get over your preconceptions about what is and isn't funny and live with it. The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.
Tenerhaddi Trinity Corporate Services	Posted - 2007.09.16 19:16:00 - [48] Originally by: Jago Kain BS and you sir missing my point! Not interested about the games oh and humour? Just Arrogant comments nothing more! ---------------- http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1771556
Psyco Groupie Pure Crazy	Posted - 2007.09.16 19:29:00 - [49] Its so sad to hear of local deaths.I stay only 6 miles or so from where the crash happened. Totally tragic, supposedly 2 young children were onboard, one being his son. R.I.P Colin , what a leg end
Dragon Ramirez Minmatar Remedy Inc. Rogue Method Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.16 22:08:00 - [50] Richard Burns, Michael Park, now Colin McRae Damn
Constantine Arcanum PURE Legion Pure.	Posted - 2007.09.16 22:48:00 - [51] Originally by: Jago Kain Originally by: Tenerhaddi Originally by: Jago Kain long post of crap slightly shorter post in very bad English You are missing the point. I have the utmost respect for Colin McCrae as a rally driver; he's just not that good a pilot it would seem. The "target" in my original comment was intended to be the gaming industry, who will use whatever they can to sell substandard wares to impressionable fan-bois who wouldn't know a decent game if they fell over it. I fully expect whoever has the rights to rush out another three poorly put together games as quickly as they can before the public at large forgets who Colin McCrae is/was. As for me being a chav... oh dear... more verbal abuse masqeurading as an argument. Define chav anyway; it seems to me to be this years default insult when those of limited intellect and vocabulary can think of nothing better to say. Life is both harsh and cruel and folk will find humour in the darkest subjects. At worst I am guilty of being slightly faster off the mark than the rest of the EVE community. Get over your preconceptions about what is and isn't funny and live with it.
QwaarJet Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.09.17 03:01:00 - [52] Originally by: Jago Kain Originally by: QwaarJet ...He's JUST died ffs... I refer the right honourable gentleman to my previous comment. You are right about the group table though... Scotland is holding it's own against such mighty footballing nations as Ukraine, Lithuania and the Faroe Islands. Incidentally, I am available for childrens parties. I notice you conviently left France (former world champions) and Italy (current world champions) out of that. Also, Ukraine were Quarter-finalists in the last world cup, so you have no leg to stand on in that argument. Also, on subject... I'd like to send my condolences to his wife...so much lost in just a short space of time. Hirrible.
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.17 13:32:00 - [53] Originally by: QwaarJet Originally by: Jago Kain Originally by: QwaarJet ...He's JUST died ffs... I refer the right honourable gentleman to my previous comment. You are right about the group table though... Scotland is holding it's own against such mighty footballing nations as Ukraine, Lithuania and the Faroe Islands. Incidentally, I am available for childrens parties. I notice you conviently left France (former world champions) and Italy (current world champions) out of that. Also, Ukraine were Quarter-finalists in the last world cup, so you have no leg to stand on in that argument. Also, on subject... I'd like to send my condolences to his wife...so much lost in just a short space of time. Hirrible. Hmmm... let's see... France; former world champions. True, but if Scotland are ahead of them in a group, they are obviously not up to par this year. Ukraine; Quarter-finalists... so, the Tim Henman of international football then. BTW, you forgot to mention the Faroe Islands giant killing performance in the world cup a while back... possibly you realised that mentioning a one-off, fluke performance by a minor footballing nation might weaken your attack on my argument? Slice it whichever way you will, Scotland are not good at football. Their appearance at the top of that table is the far end of a probability curve and nothing more. I stand by my original opinion and see nothing here to refute it. Next!!! The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.17 13:37:00 - [54] Originally by: Constantine Arcanum Erm.... let's see.... ummm... howabout No. If you have something to say, say it. I stopped hiding behind the sofa from the Daleks a long time ago and the universe's most evil pepperpots hold no terrors for me now. Bad English and ill-concieved character assassination attempts; that's another story though The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.09.17 13:39:00 - [55] Originally by: Jago Kain Originally by: Deviana Sevidon I have never played the games so I do not comment on them and I think, it would be inappropriate. He died in a Helicopter accident and a few other people as well, so please show your respect. If you wish to talk about other matters, start your own thread. Thank you. I did play the games, briefly, and I do consider it appropriate to comment. The Colin McCrae games were over-hyped, badly designed and executed pieces of not-nice. The only reason so many copies sold was the dubious link to a Scottish sportsman who actually managed to win events; something of a novelty. Why do you think we've never seen EA Sports Scottish Premier League Football 200? Because no-one would buy it given Scotland's dismal record as regards the beautiful game. It'd be a bit like a George Bush edition of the famous boardgame, Diplomacy... (afterthought: although possibly that could be marketed as Gunboat Diplomacy and might sell after all). As for death; folk die all the time. My respect for Mr McCrae's accomplishments as a rally driver is undiminished by the fact that he is no longer with us. My contempt for the games sold by his name is similarily undiminished. As for what is a suitable subject for humour, that's a very personal thing and I refuse to be bound by other peoples' idea of what constitutes respect. Anyone who has never* told, or laughed at, a joke about someone who has died is welcome to be upset by my (possibly) poor attempt at gallows humour (does anybody remember laughter?). The rest of you are hypocrites who can blow it out of your afterburner as far as I'm concerned. Discuss. I'm sorry I missed this thread until now Jago, the e-sanctimony on display here is awesome. Mad props to the living for bringing it. ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.18 01:04:00 - [56] Originally by: Erotic Irony I'm sorry I missed this thread until now Jago, the e-sanctimony on display here is awesome. Mad props to the living for bringing it. I've been trying all night to work out wether this amounts to a compliment or not. Still not sure, but just in case, thank you; I'm glad someone is entertained. The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.
Thorliaron	Posted - 2007.09.18 01:14:00 - [57] Originally by: Jago Kain Originally by: Deviana Sevidon I have never played the games so I do not comment on them and I think, it would be inappropriate. He died in a Helicopter accident and a few other people as well, so please show your respect. If you wish to talk about other matters, start your own thread. Thank you. I did play the games, briefly, and I do consider it appropriate to comment. The Colin McCrae games were over-hyped, badly designed and executed pieces of not-nice. The only reason so many copies sold was the dubious link to a Scottish sportsman who actually managed to win events; something of a novelty. Why do you think we've never seen EA Sports Scottish Premier League Football 200? Because no-one would buy it given Scotland's dismal record as regards the beautiful game. It'd be a bit like a George Bush edition of the famous boardgame, Diplomacy... (afterthought: although possibly that could be marketed as Gunboat Diplomacy and might sell after all). As for death; folk die all the time. My respect for Mr McCrae's accomplishments as a rally driver is undiminished by the fact that he is no longer with us. My contempt for the games sold by his name is similarily undiminished. As for what is a suitable subject for humour, that's a very personal thing and I refuse to be bound by other peoples' idea of what constitutes respect. Anyone who has never* told, or laughed at, a joke about someone who has died is welcome to be upset by my (possibly) poor attempt at gallows humour (does anybody remember laughter?). The rest of you are hypocrites who can blow it out of your afterburner as far as I'm concerned. Discuss. wtf is wrong with you. who cares about his games? freeking nerd
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.20 17:26:00 - [58] Nice to see so many of you rallying to Mr McCrae's defense. The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.
Cornucopian Gallente Orias Fringe Enterprises United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.20 17:34:00 - [59] Originally by: Jago Kain Nice to see so many of you rallying to Mr McCrae's defense. you're a right bastard, and I salute you, good posting form Jago! I think the point is that you are hurting other peoples feelings, not showing disrespect for McCrae: in that light a fellow human being might say to the next: what ho, how unsensitive. I fully endorse your right to ** off everyone though. ta ta chaps. ----------------------------------------------- "post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer." Originally by:** Royaldo complete win by Cornucopian!
Jago Kain Amarr Ramm's RDI	Posted - 2007.09.20 18:08:00 - [60] Originally by: Cornucopian Originally by: Jago Kain Nice to see so many of you rallying to Mr McCrae's defense. you're a right bastard, and I salute you, good posting form Jago! I think the point is that you are hurting other peoples feelings, not showing disrespect for McCrae: in that light a fellow human being might say to the next: what ho, how insensitive. I fully endorse your right to **** off everyone though. ta ta chaps. First off, fixed that for you. (Sorry, I'm a closet English language facist ) I am reliably informed that my parents were actually married 6 months before I arrived, so technically, I'm not a bastard. My intention is never directly to hurt peoples' feelings. However, I am aware that some folk are unusually sensitive to freedom of expression... that's just too bad. As I have stated before, I have a great deal of respect for Mr McCrae, but not for the gaming industry which is, I reiterate, the target of my original post. However, even I have limits. Witness my complete lack of a presence in the many "EVE player has died" threads. As I know very little about the people involved, I found myself with nothing relevant to say on their untimely demise. A lot of the folk who did post in these threads knew the people in question, as I did not, and for me to show up in these threads, shooting my mouth off, would have been insensitive. Colin McCrae was a celebrity and, as such, his life and the tragic shortening of it is of interest to many folk, myself included. If it wasn't, then it wouldn't be news now, would it? Just because I don't immmediately pile in with the "what a sad loss, we shall never see his like again" plaudits, doesn't mean I'm a bad man; it just means that I have something different to say. Opinions are like members of goonswarm; everybody has one. Just because mine differs from some others on what is acceptable in a forum thread doesn't make me wrong, or right. It just makes me, me. The next revolution won't be televised; it'll be pod-cast.

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