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NewEden Times
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.09.18 01:06:00 -
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I am thinking of starting a Newspaper for the Eve Universe. Before I started spending time and isk on the idea I would like to know what you think. Here are the ideas I have thought of so far.
5 Reporters
3- Reports on the Economics of Eve, market trends, and interviews with the largest movers and shakers of the Universe.
2- Reports on the wars of Eve. From the now "Great War" to the endless Merc wars, to let people know whos shooting who. Interviews with Cololation and Allaince pilots and leaders, and with the handful of well-Knowen Merc corps Ceo's and pilots.
My questions for you
What other areas of the game should be reported on? Do you belive that people would actually read it? Should we charge a fee weekly for it? How often should we publish the paper?
Please, any thoughts, ideas, flaming, would help. I'm planing on hiring at least 5 other players to help me run it and keep the story's coming in. So, if you would like to apply for a position please convo me in game.
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Nootami
Amarr Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.18 01:24:00 -
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My memory is quite bad: What was that old news website back in 03 and 04... Eve Guardian? I used to read that website every day for the news updates.
So I'll say there's definitely a market of readers out there. ------------------------------------------
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Stefx
Gallente Moons of Pluto
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Posted - 2007.09.18 01:27:00 -
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did you see www.eve-tribune.com ?
Just a thought, as you would/should like to do something different and complementary rather than compete with the Eve Tribune.
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jongalt
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Posted - 2007.09.18 01:29:00 -
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make sure your "reporters" know how to write fair and balanced articles with at least 3 (three) sources for every "fact" they assert.
fact-checking is paramount.
using somebody's alts to get around the 3 source rule doesnt count...
good luck.
-jg.
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NewEden Times
New Eden Times
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Posted - 2007.09.18 01:36:00 -
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Thanx for the great ideas, keep em coming please.
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Grant Miller
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Posted - 2007.09.18 02:44:00 -
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A market overview of "whats hot and whats not" would be cool.
Also, do some sort of comedy panel! that'd be awesome.
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NewEden Times
New Eden Times
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Posted - 2007.09.18 03:07:00 -
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You willing to apply for that position :)
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NewEden Times
New Eden Times
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Posted - 2007.09.18 16:02:00 -
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Bump for the day. Any ideas, thought, suggestions would help a great deal.
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Yao Shiu
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Posted - 2007.09.18 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: Yao Shiu on 18/09/2007 16:10:02
Originally by: jongalt fact-checking is paramount.
like this ..? 
seriously though, I'd love to get impartial war coverage, as opposed to alliance forum posturing
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NewEden Times
New Eden Times
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Posted - 2007.09.18 17:24:00 -
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Awesome clip, lol. I can assure you that all writing will be unbiased and the truth.
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Fiona Korvin
Lonely Maple Research Group
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Posted - 2007.09.18 17:41:00 -
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I'd be willingly to help. Got quiet a few good ideas :D look me up ingame. ----------------------------------------------- First one to tag me get's a free beer and a free BBQ! |

Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2007.09.18 17:46:00 -
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I'd be willing to contribute with a "Ask Sheriff Jones!" column. In my own, rather peculiar...umm...(edium sir?) Yes, edium! 
Would ofcourse be extra glad to do it with some iskies/donations 
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jongalt
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Posted - 2007.09.18 18:06:00 -
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lol. no disrespect meant, sherriff - but i would >much< rather have an "Ask lofty29" column
or
a column where you and lofty29 comment onquestions posed to both of you...
kind of like the "savage love" column in the village voice, except dan savage would be a schizophrenic murdering carebear...
-jg.
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NewEden Times
New Eden Times
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Posted - 2007.09.18 19:43:00 -
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Ok, I have decided to go ahead and create the paper. Website has been ordered. Watch for a new post if you would like to apply for a position as a reporter or some other ill explain when I finish the website.
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Eulalinda
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.18 20:45:00 -
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Edited by: Eulalinda on 18/09/2007 20:47:10
Originally by: NewEden Times What other areas of the game should be reported on?
I would like to see some reporting on how CCP increasingly commercializes EVE. For example, I'm pretty sure this latest tourney was the first time they didn't offer downloadable videos. Why not?
Well, this time was also the first time they included ads in the videos. If we had downloadable videos then we (the viewers) could simply fast forward through the ads (like Tivo). With the way CCP distributed the videos this time, we were forced to watch the ads in real time.
Also, as Eve continues to grow the servers have a harder time supporting the new players. So server lag is getting worse. Now I frequently lag 1-4 seconds in sparsely populated systems like Aphend with 30-40 in local. This isn't right.
Then there are systems like Jita....
With 190,000 paying EVE customers and game time costing $11-15/month, CCP collects from us $2.1-2.8 million/month ($25-34 million/year). Server upgrades? |

Eulalinda
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.18 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: NewEden Times I can assure you that all writing will be unbiased and the truth.
"Nothing is unbiased. Everything is presented from a certain point of view. If you're honest, you make your point of view clear. If you're dishonest, you pretend you're objective. It's really up to you to decide what you think is [reasonable]. You really ought to be triangulating. You look at different things and see how the world looks from different points of view and then you make your own decisions." --Noam Chomsky, April 5, 2003
With 190,000 paying EVE customers and game time costing $11-15/month, CCP collects from us $2.1-2.8 million/month ($25-34 million/year). Server upgrades? |

Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.18 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Stefx did you see www.eve-tribune.com ?
Just a thought, as you would/should like to do something different and complementary rather than compete with the Eve Tribune.
EVE Tribune is a tabloid. If the New Eden Times aims to be a reputable source of news, he'll be doing something different  ------
Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
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Stefx
Gallente Moons of Pluto
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Posted - 2007.09.18 21:26:00 -
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Edited by: Stefx on 18/09/2007 21:35:51
Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: Stefx did you see www.eve-tribune.com ?
Just a thought, as you would/should like to do something different and complementary rather than compete with the Eve Tribune.
EVE Tribune is a tabloid. If the New Eden Times aims to be a reputable source of news, he'll be doing something different 
...which is exactly what I suggested to him/her.
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NewEden Times
New Eden Times
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Posted - 2007.09.18 21:30:00 -
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We will do our best, of that I will promise you. Taking what you have all said, I have decided it best to have at least 3 sources for a story. So, the facts will come out. I have no desire to see this paper become a tabloid. I hope it will become one of the few things in even that does not have a 2nd meaning in its words. And to Eulalinda. I am sorry, but we will not be able to question CCP on things like that. As far as I know there is no direct way to talk to CCP to ask them. If we where able to I would defiantly run a story about it. However, I will ask around and and make a forum post on our website and see what other players think. My apologizes.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.18 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Stefx
Originally by: Patch86
Originally by: Stefx did you see www.eve-tribune.com ?
Just a thought, as you would/should like to do something different and complementary rather than compete with the Eve Tribune.
EVE Tribune is a tabloid. If the New Eden Times aims to be a reputable source of news, he'll be doing something different 
...which is exactly what I suggested to him/her.
...which is why I'm agreeing.  ------
Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
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NewEden Times
New Eden Times
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Posted - 2007.09.18 23:26:00 -
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The New Eden Times website is being built as we speak. Thanx for all the great ideas. Will be posting volunteer positions opened.
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Phyrr
Minmatar Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.19 00:55:00 -
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I don't mind giving this a go. Drop me an evemail in game, i'd be happy to try out for your "paper":)
The odds on me being here are rather slim evolutionary speaking, yet in the infinite bounds of probability my being here is a certainty. |

NewEden Times
New Eden Times
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Posted - 2007.09.19 01:12:00 -
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Sent you an eve-mail 
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NewEden Times
New Eden Times
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Posted - 2007.09.19 19:03:00 -
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Bump
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Aceoil
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.09.19 19:10:00 -
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This sounds good.
Can you at least publish one article per day? Will the newspaper be in a blog format? Please dont charge. But you can ask for ISK donations if the articles are good enough. Will you accept fan fiction stories? How will you pay your writers? ISK? Or is it volunteer?
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Phlox
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Posted - 2007.09.19 19:18:00 -
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I'm not sure exactly how you can get the most accurate war coverage without being there yourself. Of course if you're actually there, then you're a target and will more than likely end up in a pod or worse.
Best of luck to you though.
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Illyria Ambri
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.09.19 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: NewEden Times I am sorry, but we will not be able to question CCP on things like that. As far as I know there is no direct way to talk to CCP to ask them.
I believe the conga line here is "Talk to BoB" BoB knows CCP ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek
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NewEden Times
New Eden Times
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Posted - 2007.09.19 19:26:00 -
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Our paper will come out once a week as it stands now due to having a very small staff. (3 including me)
It will be in forum format.
We will not charge, but will ask for donations to cover the 30 million monthly isk fee for our website.
Our staff are all volunteers.
I was not going to release the website intill it was ready buy I will give you all a sneak peak Website
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Nachshon
Caldari Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.09.19 19:38:00 -
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Eve Tribune is more like a magazine about EVE than a newspaper. It caters chiefly to PvPers. I would enjoy one that has more focus on empire events. If you need a reporter on events from Minmatar space, I could fill that role (but I would be heavily biased in favor of the Minmatar). ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2007.09.19 20:23:00 -
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The NewEden Times, as said, is forum based and as such, there is really no real "schedule", even if there is 
Such as my questions and answers section, which will be open around the clock and only dependent on the question amounts and how often i can take the time to answer.
The reports are more weekly and can be read on the forums, as some other stuff is "free timetable.
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
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