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NewEden Times School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.09.18 01:06:00 - [1] I am thinking of starting a Newspaper for the Eve Universe. Before I started spending time and isk on the idea I would like to know what you think. Here are the ideas I have thought of so far. 5 Reporters 3- Reports on the Economics of Eve, market trends, and interviews with the largest movers and shakers of the Universe. 2- Reports on the wars of Eve. From the now "Great War" to the endless Merc wars, to let people know whos shooting who. Interviews with Cololation and Allaince pilots and leaders, and with the handful of well-Knowen Merc corps Ceo's and pilots. My questions for you What other areas of the game should be reported on? Do you belive that people would actually read it? Should we charge a fee weekly for it? How often should we publish the paper? Please, any thoughts, ideas, flaming, would help. I'm planing on hiring at least 5 other players to help me run it and keep the story's coming in. So, if you would like to apply for a position please convo me in game.
Nootami Amarr Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.09.18 01:24:00 - [2] My memory is quite bad: What was that old news website back in 03 and 04... Eve Guardian? I used to read that website every day for the news updates. So I'll say there's definitely a market of readers out there. ------------------------------------------ Originally by: Cortex Reaver [22:39:59] [Oi]Nootami1 joined channel [22:40:02] [Oi]Nootami1 quit Oh,look! Someone joined for a whopping .3 seconds! -CR
Stefx Gallente Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.09.18 01:27:00 - [3] did you see www.eve-tribune.com ? Just a thought, as you would/should like to do something different and complementary rather than compete with the Eve Tribune.
jongalt	Posted - 2007.09.18 01:29:00 - [4] make sure your "reporters" know how to write fair and balanced articles with at least 3 (three) sources for every "fact" they assert. fact-checking is paramount. using somebody's alts to get around the 3 source rule doesnt count... good luck. -jg.
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.18 01:36:00 - [5] Thanx for the great ideas, keep em coming please.
Grant Miller	Posted - 2007.09.18 02:44:00 - [6] A market overview of "whats hot and whats not" would be cool. Also, do some sort of comedy panel! that'd be awesome.
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.18 03:07:00 - [7] You willing to apply for that position :)
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.18 16:02:00 - [8] Bump for the day. Any ideas, thought, suggestions would help a great deal.
Yao Shiu	Posted - 2007.09.18 16:09:00 - [9] Edited by: Yao Shiu on 18/09/2007 16:10:02 Originally by: jongalt fact-checking is paramount. like this ..? seriously though, I'd love to get impartial war coverage, as opposed to alliance forum posturing
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.18 17:24:00 - [10] Awesome clip, lol. I can assure you that all writing will be unbiased and the truth.
Fiona Korvin Lonely Maple Research Group	Posted - 2007.09.18 17:41:00 - [11] I'd be willingly to help. Got quiet a few good ideas :D look me up ingame. ----------------------------------------------- First one to tag me get's a free beer and a free BBQ!
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.18 17:46:00 - [12] I'd be willing to contribute with a "Ask Sheriff Jones!" column. In my own, rather peculiar...umm...(edium sir?) Yes, edium! Would ofcourse be extra glad to do it with some iskies/donations My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
jongalt	Posted - 2007.09.18 18:06:00 - [13] lol. no disrespect meant, sherriff - but i would >much< rather have an "Ask lofty29" column or a column where you and lofty29 comment onquestions posed to both of you... kind of like the "savage love" column in the village voice, except dan savage would be a schizophrenic murdering carebear... -jg.
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.18 19:43:00 - [14] Ok, I have decided to go ahead and create the paper. Website has been ordered. Watch for a new post if you would like to apply for a position as a reporter or some other ill explain when I finish the website.
Eulalinda Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.18 20:45:00 - [15] Edited by: Eulalinda on 18/09/2007 20:47:10 Originally by: NewEden Times What other areas of the game should be reported on? I would like to see some reporting on how CCP increasingly commercializes EVE. For example, I'm pretty sure this latest tourney was the first time they didn't offer downloadable videos. Why not? Well, this time was also the first time they included ads in the videos. If we had downloadable videos then we (the viewers) could simply fast forward through the ads (like Tivo). With the way CCP distributed the videos this time, we were forced to watch the ads in real time. Also, as Eve continues to grow the servers have a harder time supporting the new players. So server lag is getting worse. Now I frequently lag 1-4 seconds in sparsely populated systems like Aphend with 30-40 in local. This isn't right. Then there are systems like Jita.... With 190,000 paying EVE customers and game time costing $11-15/month, CCP collects from us $2.1-2.8 million/month ($25-34 million/year). Server upgrades?
Eulalinda Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.18 20:49:00 - [16] Originally by: NewEden Times I can assure you that all writing will be unbiased and the truth. "Nothing is unbiased. Everything is presented from a certain point of view. If you're honest, you make your point of view clear. If you're dishonest, you pretend you're objective. It's really up to you to decide what you think is [reasonable]. You really ought to be triangulating. You look at different things and see how the world looks from different points of view and then you make your own decisions." --Noam Chomsky, April 5, 2003 With 190,000 paying EVE customers and game time costing $11-15/month, CCP collects from us $2.1-2.8 million/month ($25-34 million/year). Server upgrades?
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.18 21:05:00 - [17] Originally by: Stefx did you see www.eve-tribune.com ? Just a thought, as you would/should like to do something different and complementary rather than compete with the Eve Tribune. EVE Tribune is a tabloid. If the New Eden Times aims to be a reputable source of news, he'll be doing something different ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
Stefx Gallente Moons of Pluto	Posted - 2007.09.18 21:26:00 - [18] Edited by: Stefx on 18/09/2007 21:35:51 Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Stefx did you see www.eve-tribune.com ? Just a thought, as you would/should like to do something different and complementary rather than compete with the Eve Tribune. EVE Tribune is a tabloid. If the New Eden Times aims to be a reputable source of news, he'll be doing something different ...which is exactly what I suggested to him/her.
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.18 21:30:00 - [19] We will do our best, of that I will promise you. Taking what you have all said, I have decided it best to have at least 3 sources for a story. So, the facts will come out. I have no desire to see this paper become a tabloid. I hope it will become one of the few things in even that does not have a 2nd meaning in its words. And to Eulalinda. I am sorry, but we will not be able to question CCP on things like that. As far as I know there is no direct way to talk to CCP to ask them. If we where able to I would defiantly run a story about it. However, I will ask around and and make a forum post on our website and see what other players think. My apologizes.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.18 21:31:00 - [20] Originally by: Stefx Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Stefx did you see www.eve-tribune.com ? Just a thought, as you would/should like to do something different and complementary rather than compete with the Eve Tribune. EVE Tribune is a tabloid. If the New Eden Times aims to be a reputable source of news, he'll be doing something different ...which is exactly what I suggested to him/her. ...which is why I'm agreeing. ------ Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts!
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.18 23:26:00 - [21] The New Eden Times website is being built as we speak. Thanx for all the great ideas. Will be posting volunteer positions opened.
Phyrr Minmatar Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.19 00:55:00 - [22] I don't mind giving this a go. Drop me an evemail in game, i'd be happy to try out for your "paper":) The odds on me being here are rather slim evolutionary speaking, yet in the infinite bounds of probability my being here is a certainty.
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.19 01:12:00 - [23] Sent you an eve-mail
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.19 19:03:00 - [24] Bump
Aceoil Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2007.09.19 19:10:00 - [25] This sounds good. Can you at least publish one article per day? Will the newspaper be in a blog format? Please dont charge. But you can ask for ISK donations if the articles are good enough. Will you accept fan fiction stories? How will you pay your writers? ISK? Or is it volunteer?
Phlox	Posted - 2007.09.19 19:18:00 - [26] I'm not sure exactly how you can get the most accurate war coverage without being there yourself. Of course if you're actually there, then you're a target and will more than likely end up in a pod or worse. Best of luck to you though.
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.09.19 19:26:00 - [27] Originally by: NewEden Times I am sorry, but we will not be able to question CCP on things like that. As far as I know there is no direct way to talk to CCP to ask them. I believe the conga line here is "Talk to BoB" BoB knows CCP ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.19 19:26:00 - [28] Our paper will come out once a week as it stands now due to having a very small staff. (3 including me) It will be in forum format. We will not charge, but will ask for donations to cover the 30 million monthly isk fee for our website. Our staff are all volunteers. I was not going to release the website intill it was ready buy I will give you all a sneak peak Website
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.09.19 19:38:00 - [29] Eve Tribune is more like a magazine about EVE than a newspaper. It caters chiefly to PvPers. I would enjoy one that has more focus on empire events. If you need a reporter on events from Minmatar space, I could fill that role (but I would be heavily biased in favor of the Minmatar). ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.19 20:23:00 - [30] The NewEden Times, as said, is forum based and as such, there is really no real "schedule", even if there is Such as my questions and answers section, which will be open around the clock and only dependent on the question amounts and how often i can take the time to answer. The reports are more weekly and can be read on the forums, as some other stuff is "free timetable. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Fuazzole	Posted - 2007.09.19 20:26:00 - [31] Control the media, control the mind
Podee Something Squishy	Posted - 2007.09.19 21:51:00 - [32] Podee is now in the service of the Neweden Times I'm in ur threadz, derailin ur postz.
Flavan	Posted - 2007.09.20 03:29:00 - [33] So ya set up a blog that looks newspaper-ish, you have an editor who is responsible for the overall content, a few "reporters" who can filter stories coming in, and you encourage players to write content. Sounds a relatively easy operation once you have the people.
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.20 04:48:00 - [34] Our gift to the community.
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.20 19:44:00 - [35] Bump for the day
Alex V0X2 Minmatar Royal Crimson Lancers	Posted - 2007.09.20 20:20:00 - [36] need 1 more reporter?
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.20 22:19:00 - [37] We need, 1 Reporter for our War Report section 2 Reporters for our Economics section 2 reporters for our Stocks and bonds section 1 reporter for our Ship of the week section We need all the help we can get more or less
Celeritas 5k Caldari Initrode The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.09.20 22:28:00 - [38] Originally by: NewEden Times We need, 1 Reporter for our War Report section 2 Reporters for our Economics section 2 reporters for our Stocks and bonds section 1 reporter for our Ship of the week section We need all the help we can get more or less Ship of the week? sounds cool, are you going to do each ship once or include different fittings? I.E. would you do a passively tanked mission drake one issue and then a bit later on do an active tank pvp drake, or just do the drake one time, with an overview of the different options for fitting it? I'd be willing to help out with this section, though most of my experience is with caldari ships. As for stocks and bonds, I didn't even know they existed in EVE, other than scams... ---------- "Always be Happy, Never be satisfied."
Xinfinity Slacker Industries	Posted - 2007.09.20 23:07:00 - [39] Originally by: Eulalinda Edited by: Eulalinda on 18/09/2007 20:47:10 Originally by: NewEden Times What other areas of the game should be reported on? I would like to see some reporting on how CCP increasingly commercializes EVE. For example, I'm pretty sure this latest tourney was the first time they didn't offer downloadable videos. Why not? Well, this time was also the first time they included ads in the videos. If we had downloadable videos then we (the viewers) could simply fast forward through the ads (like Tivo). With the way CCP distributed the videos this time, we were forced to watch the ads in real time. Also, as Eve continues to grow the servers have a harder time supporting the new players. So server lag is getting worse. Now I frequently lag 1-4 seconds in sparsely populated systems like Aphend with 30-40 in local. This isn't right. Then there are systems like Jita.... Actually, this is the first time that the tournament had every match available, for free, the day after. And they're still there. But hell, a girl's gotta whine...
Wild Rho Amarr Endgame.	Posted - 2007.09.20 23:24:00 - [40] It's a perfectly possible goal but be prepared to put alot of work in if you're really serious. You'll also need thick skin because people will go bonkers over the slightest inaccuracies (perceived or real) when reporting on things like major battles. What other areas of the game should be reported on? Everything, have a nice wide mix subjects to get stuck into. Do you belive that people would actually read it? Depends on the quality of your writing and its presentation. If you get it right you'll get plenty of readers. It'll probably be slow at the start but if you do a good job you'll do well. Should we charge a fee weekly for it? Bad idea honestly, even if it's a small fee people just won't be willing to part with isk. Donations may be a better choice but keeping it free is the best way to spread it. How often should we publish the paper? Once a week is probably a good idea. It gives you a chance to report fairly recent news but without being put under too much pressure to find items worth reporting and so being forced to run with junk news. Ideas... Section based on following the major wars etc. Very difficult to pull off and easy to be branded as biased so it's critical to remain neutral and use the appropriate language. Section on game changes, dev blogs the latest forum "drama" topics (depends on how ingame you wish to keep it). Small sections on corps, their history and the people involved and possible larger alliances. Economic information. Recommended guides (plenty to be found on various forum sections). Questions and answers section? Player feedback section (players can send in mails about previous articals and you can address them - stuff like that). Anywho, good luck.
Cilvius Sanctus	Posted - 2007.09.21 00:18:00 - [41] Edited by: Cilvius Sanctus on 21/09/2007 00:18:24 Still need more reporters? I'd be interested in reporting from the Economic side. Or, if you're taking some of Wild Rho's suggestions, I could also write about Dev Blogs and recent/upcoming changes. Send me an EVE Mail.
Tommy TenKreds Animal Mercantile Executive Animal.	Posted - 2007.09.21 10:06:00 - [42] Originally by: NewEden Times Ok, I have decided to go ahead and create the paper. Website has been ordered. Watch for a new post if you would like to apply for a position as a reporter or some other ill explain when I finish the website. GL mate. I suggest you add some clever code to determine when the site is being viewed from the IGB and present a compatible version. Bandures > Tommy, you like a cowboy harry )
Zaralion New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.22 11:57:00 - [43] bumpage
DasDizzy	Posted - 2007.09.23 01:05:00 - [44] /nightly bump
Arvald Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.09.23 01:44:00 - [45] arvald resident ship expert for new eden times ----------------------------------------------- ya cant stop the rokh and no i have not nor will i ever contribute anything constructive to your thread
Arvald Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.09.23 01:45:00 - [46] Edited by: Arvald on 23/09/2007 01:45:21 wops ----------------------------------------------- ya cant stop the rokh and no i have not nor will i ever contribute anything constructive to your thread
Zaralion New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.23 13:20:00 - [47] one does not simply /bump on the forums :P
NewEden Times New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.23 17:58:00 - [48] And the first Issue is posted. We did what we could in 5 days, some of the staff fewer then that. Our custom made site should be up this week sometime.
Zaralion New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.23 18:54:00 - [49] thanks to everyone who made the first issue possible i for myself am going to remain with the newspaper
Zaralion New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.24 06:23:00 - [50] morning bump
Zaralion New Eden Times	Posted - 2007.09.25 18:40:00 - [51] Daily Bump
TylerJames The.CLash	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:11:00 - [52] Originally by: Wild Rho Small sections on corps, their history and the people involved I would think this a good read. There are alot of interesting corps out there, who are not so well known because they have not been big forum *****s, but have an interesting history. It can be defunct or currently active corps, as long as you talk to those who were actually in it for the facts.

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