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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.15 06:42:00 -
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There are already 5 ways to counter missiles in this game.
Absolutely NO need for a 6:th way.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.15 07:42:00 -
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Oh, well, it is actually already 6.
Smartbombs, always an avaible option.
Defenders, always an avaible option.
Speed, always an aviable option for smaller ships.
Close-range, avaible option for big ships.
Warp out and back in, "always" an avaible option in fleet combat.
Shoot down missiles, not really an option if you want to do any damage yourself, but absolutely an option if a group of smaller ships attacks a battleships that tries to defend with FoF missiles for example.
Since missiles obviously already are very easy to counter, cost very much, and aren't overpowered compared to turrets, we sure as hell don't need more defence against missiles.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.15 08:19:00 -
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Leaving us with no effective way to counter missile, the best current way it to soak them up with your shield tank and thats just wrong. 
And how am I supposed to counter your turrets?
The missile defences works good enough.
One slot for either defenders or a smartbomb cancels out more than one slot used for missiles from the player attacking you. 4 smartbombs cancels out the 6 launcherslots on a Raven.
While with sensor dampeners you need 5 slots for boosters to cancel out 3 slots used for dampeners by the attacker.
Sure it seems like missile defence is underpowered
We really need some small drones that completely cancels out the offence of a missile user while you still have all your high-slots available for offence.
Use your brains instead.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.15 08:58:00 -
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is this 'defender drone' thing real or just something cooked up by the person who started this thread?
honestly we don't need defender drones imo
No, it's not real, just someone complaining about missiles when missiles in fact are underpowered.
Well, Pojo, does it seem logical tha your defenders would manage to take out all the incoming missiles from a raven? NO.
Smaller number of incoming missiles -> defenders works good
Large number of incoming missiles -> smartbombs works good
Not that hard to figure out.
But since I'm pretty much a missile user myself I'll stop teaching people how to beat me.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.15 09:05:00 -
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I use a typhoon which is 4/4 setup so I use cruise missiles for roughly half my damage output yet you dont see me crying over def drones. If they use def drones they not attacking me with their ogres and I can pick of their little drones without too much trouble. This will be a welcome tool to counter missile spamming tactics, doubt it will work to well looking at the current anti missile systems.
This point proves you have no idea what you're talking about.
Damage from 8 heavy drones is less than the damage from 2 highslots.
He uses the drones to cancel out 4 of your highslots.
Means he will be doing the damage of 8 highslots on you while you are doing the damage of less than 6 highslot to him.
If you start by picking out his drones, well, you'll die in that case too.
So sorry man, but this idea would make your typhoon completely useless (not to mention ravens).
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.15 09:17:00 -
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For all nubs:
damage from a Arbalest heavy launcher on a Raven = damage from a Standard 425mm railgun on a megathron.
damage from a Arbalest heavy launcher on a Raven << damage from a 425mm prototype gauss on a megathron.
Megathron can fit damage mods to increase the damage very much.
Missiles takes a loooong time to reach the target.
Missiles costs a lot to use.
Missiles can be countered.
 Missiles are absolutely NOT overpowered, rather underpowered.
* FoF missiles are fubard, they don't work.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.15 11:11:00 -
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Dalman you in your panic attack over missiles are missing the point. Why do you think that these new drones would cancel out 100% of missiles? Thats absurd anyway you look at it, even if they can get rid of half the missiles coming my way they would be worth it.
2 smartbombs is enough for that.
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