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Sportapro	Posted - 2007.09.18 20:21:00 - [1] Can i try some of what you've been smoking when you drew that model?
Kyrynn	Posted - 2007.09.18 20:23:00 - [2] More like lack of motivation, and talent. Did I mention poor taste?
Adrian Steel Caldari Knowledge Capsuleers	Posted - 2007.09.18 22:45:00 - [3] Fools. It's a Caldari vessel, meaning it's built from the bottom up with efficiency of form in mind. Aesthetics are an extremely distant last because of the Caldari efficiency philosophy, in comparison to the drab Matari vessels, whose builders had to mass produce vessels under harsh conditions to defend their freedom. The one an only deviant in the Caldari line is the Scorpion, for which it can be argued that it was designed for psychological shock value (and perhaps the Moa as well). These are not your Gallentean engineers who probably double as fashion designers on their free time, or Amarrian engineers who add lavish religious symbols to their vessels to honour their God. Get with the program and read some backstory, punks. Click above image for site link.
Marux Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.18 22:48:00 - [4] Originally by: Adrian Steel ...words... These are not your Gallentean engineers who probably double as fashion designers on their free time, or Amarrian engineers who add shiny gold plates to their vessels to honour their God. Fixed that for ya' Get with the program and read some backstory, punks. ----- I've heard shuttles don't tank very well.
Twin blade Minmatar The Triangle	Posted - 2007.09.18 22:58:00 - [5] Originally by: Adrian Steel Fools. It's a Caldari vessel, meaning it's built from the bottom up with efficiency of form in mind. Aesthetics are an extremely distant last because of the Caldari efficiency philosophy, in comparison to the drab Matari vessels, whose builders had to mass produce vessels under harsh conditions to defend their freedom. The one an only deviant in the Caldari line is the Scorpion, for which it can be argued that it was designed for psychological shock value (and perhaps the Moa as well). If that was a fact then all caldari ships would be cube's or a sphere shape more or less borg type ships that are based on efficiency only. Caldari ships are made by a 5 year old given toy blocks you get the kid to toss them around and what ever shape he can make is turned to a caldari ship IE the raven. !
Haradgrim Caldari The Wild Bunch INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.09.18 23:02:00 - [6] the raven's not that bad, the moa on the other hand looks like it was drawn by someone who enjoys a regular snack of paint chips --
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.09.18 23:06:00 - [7] I like the Ravens design... It's asymmetric, but it's balanced asymmetry. It just looks like it was designed purely to kill you, your family, the neighbor's dog, half the planet... And the spikes in the front look wicked & potentially packed full of powerful electronic equipment. Am I the only one who thinks the Raven looks cool even if it does bear a slight resemblance to a porcupine? ___________ Desolacer> Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up. Zaqar> CCP
Arrant Drew	Posted - 2007.09.18 23:09:00 - [8] Everyone misses an important fact about the Raven's ugliness. The problem is not that the Raven looks ugly - the problem is that its ugliness comes from the fact that the ship's 3D model was amateurishly constructed. The 3D modeller/designer did bad work on this particular ship. For example, the Dominix looks very ugly as well. (I've heard many people call it ugly anyway ) But the difference is that you can tell the creator of that ship skillfully crafted that ugliness. Summary: Many ships in Eve are purposefully ugly because that is their intended character. The Raven is ugly because it was amateurishly designed.
Adrian Steel Caldari Knowledge Capsuleers	Posted - 2007.09.18 23:11:00 - [9] Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 18/09/2007 23:07:11 I like the Ravens design... It's asymmetric, but it's balanced asymmetry. It just looks like it was designed purely to kill you, your family, the neighbor's dog, half the planet.. Lol. I agree. Click above image for site link.
Reem Fairchild	Posted - 2007.09.18 23:13:00 - [10] Caldari ship designs > Gallente ship designs by far
Soong Hay Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.18 23:21:00 - [11] Originally by: Kyrynn More like lack of motivation, and talent. Did I mention poor taste? Oh because I guess with your unlimited skills and talent you would have done an awsome job there. Criticizing is easy, art is difficult. And even if you are an amazing designer praise all around the planet this is no ways to talk about other peoples work, man
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.09.18 23:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Adrian Steel Fools. It's a Caldari vessel, meaning it's built from the bottom up with efficiency of form in mind. Aesthetics are an extremely distant last because of the Caldari efficiency philosophy, in comparison to the drab Matari vessels, whose builders had to mass produce vessels under harsh conditions to defend their freedom. The one an only deviant in the Caldari line is the Scorpion, for which it can be argued that it was designed for psychological shock value (and perhaps the Moa as well). These are not your Gallentean engineers who probably double as fashion designers on their free time, or Amarrian engineers who add lavish religious symbols to their vessels to honour their God. Get with the program and read some backstory, punks. hey dude lets swap deviant art accounts and watch naruto ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Pimp Cane The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus	Posted - 2007.09.18 23:25:00 - [13] Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: Adrian Steel Fools. It's a Caldari vessel, meaning it's built from the bottom up with efficiency of form in mind. Aesthetics are an extremely distant last because of the Caldari efficiency philosophy, in comparison to the drab Matari vessels, whose builders had to mass produce vessels under harsh conditions to defend their freedom. The one an only deviant in the Caldari line is the Scorpion, for which it can be argued that it was designed for psychological shock value (and perhaps the Moa as well). These are not your Gallentean engineers who probably double as fashion designers on their free time, or Amarrian engineers who add lavish religious symbols to their vessels to honour their God. Get with the program and read some backstory, punks. hey dude lets swap deviant art accounts and watch naruto oh wow. i lol'd hard.
Virgil Aquilis GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.09.19 01:02:00 - [14] Fun fact: hold your right hand up, ball it into a fist, and then crook the pinky out congratulations! you have made a Moa and yes, the Raven model is hideous. Some Caldari models do look very cool (Merlin, Caracal, even Scorpion come to mind) but the Raven is not just ugly but also completely boring.
Adrian Steel Caldari Knowledge Capsuleers	Posted - 2007.09.19 01:12:00 - [15] Edited by: Adrian Steel on 19/09/2007 01:15:24 Originally by: Pimp Cane Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: Adrian Steel Fools. It's a Caldari vessel, meaning it's built from the bottom up with efficiency of form in mind. Aesthetics are an extremely distant last because of the Caldari efficiency philosophy, in comparison to the drab Matari vessels, whose builders had to mass produce vessels under harsh conditions to defend their freedom. The one an only deviant in the Caldari line is the Scorpion, for which it can be argued that it was designed for psychological shock value (and perhaps the Moa as well). These are not your Gallentean engineers who probably double as fashion designers on their free time, or Amarrian engineers who add lavish religious symbols to their vessels to honour their God. Get with the program and read some backstory, punks. hey dude lets swap deviant art accounts and watch naruto oh wow. i lol'd hard. I would have lol'd hard too, if I hadn't had to Wiki and Google Naruto and DeviantART. You guys obviously didn't have to bother. Click above image for site link.
Virgil Aquilis GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.09.19 01:27:00 - [16] I think what they are telling you is that they understand the backstory and the fact that Caldari ships are in general big lumps of grey metal with odds and ends sticking out. But even looking at it through the eyes of a Caldari designer, the thing's still damn ugly.
Aravel Thon	Posted - 2007.09.19 01:33:00 - [17] Originally by: Virgil Aquilis the thing's still damn ugly. like yo momma! oh snaps!
Virgil Aquilis GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.09.19 01:45:00 - [18] Originally by: Aravel Thon Originally by: Virgil Aquilis the thing's still damn ugly. like yo momma! oh snaps! yeah well your mom's bigger than a Machariel so whatever
Adrian Steel Caldari Knowledge Capsuleers	Posted - 2007.09.19 01:46:00 - [19] Originally by: Virgil Aquilis I think what they are telling you is that they understand the backstory and the fact that Caldari ships are in general big lumps of grey metal with odds and ends sticking out. But even looking at it through the eyes of a Caldari designer, the thing's still damn ugly. You're a Goon. You wouldn't know ugly if you smeared your face in fedo dung and looked in the mirror. Click above image for site link.
Virgil Aquilis GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.09.19 01:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Adrian Steel Originally by: Virgil Aquilis I think what they are telling you is that they understand the backstory and the fact that Caldari ships are in general big lumps of grey metal with odds and ends sticking out. But even looking at it through the eyes of a Caldari designer, the thing's still damn ugly. You're a Goon. You wouldn't know ugly if you smeared your face in fedo dung and looked in the mirror. Okay, your momma jokes are simple enough but can someone tell me what this guy is on about
Adrian Steel Caldari Knowledge Capsuleers	Posted - 2007.09.19 02:01:00 - [21] Edited by: Adrian Steel on 19/09/2007 02:01:44 Looks like you didn't read the backstory thoroughly. I'll help you out. Click above image for site link.
Virgil Aquilis GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.09.19 02:06:00 - [22] Originally by: Adrian Steel Edited by: Adrian Steel on 19/09/2007 02:01:44 Looks like you didn't read the backstory thoroughly. I'll help you out. ha ha joke's on me i guess
Pimp Cane The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus	Posted - 2007.09.19 02:28:00 - [23] Originally by: Adrian Steel Originally by: Virgil Aquilis I think what they are telling you is that they understand the backstory and the fact that Caldari ships are in general big lumps of grey metal with odds and ends sticking out. But even looking at it through the eyes of a Caldari designer, the thing's still damn ugly. You're a Goon. You wouldn't know ugly if you smeared your face in fedo dung and looked in the mirror. snide arrogant insults based on a fictional backstory to an optional RP game on03s. doesnt change a thing about the raven and moa (among others) being ugly ships. "utilitarian" and "built without aesthetics in mind, only function" are all well and good, but seeing as they perform pretty much the same functions as other ships in the game, just slower, it looks like the caldari designers could do with an update. maybe some good looking ships would be more effective (just look at the rokh and drake).
Ollie TT	Posted - 2007.09.19 02:39:00 - [24] I sorta like the ravens shape. It would maybe look better symetrical but I dunno... It just looks like an internet spaceship... Rather than a phallus/whale/sailing boat.
Vox'Dei	Posted - 2007.09.19 03:02:00 - [25] All they need to do for the raven/scorp/moa/blackbird is cut it right down the center where it should be. (in the head of the raven/not wing of the blackbird/top of the scorpians tail) Nature doesnt make birds lop sided, and you shouldnt name ships after them if theyre going to be, its just not natural!!! That being said Yo mamma's so ugly she fits two cloaking devices on her raven
Lui Kai Phoenix Aeronautics	Posted - 2007.09.19 03:37:00 - [26] The Raven looks like a ****** tried to build a bird out of legos. ----------------
Captian Internet Lead Bricks	Posted - 2007.09.19 03:49:00 - [27] Originally by: Virgil Aquilis Originally by: Aravel Thon Originally by: Virgil Aquilis the thing's still damn ugly. like yo momma! oh snaps! yeah well your mom's bigger than a Machariel so whatever Your momma is so fat she had to jump through a cyno just to turn around! Changes to Local,War ,Navigation Shortcuts
Arthur Frayn Suicidal Mercenaries Pure.	Posted - 2007.09.19 04:10:00 - [28] The saddest part about the scorp's ugliness is that if you added a symmetrical left wing, it'd be pure sex. I'd fly only the Scorp for the rest of my days if it had that damn left wing. I think I'll learn photoshop just so I can post pictures of Caldari ships made symmetrical. -- Eve needs a dose of Top Gun without the sweaty shower scenes.
Karyuudo Tydraad Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services	Posted - 2007.09.19 04:31:00 - [29] I happen to like how the Caldari ships look. =\
Jmanis Catharg Caldari DB Ops Wing	Posted - 2007.09.19 04:38:00 - [30] I like the look of the raven, especially from a distance. Any sci-fi fan knows it's a pretty evil look coz they look a lot like the Shadows vessels from Babylon 5, though slightly less organic. Considering all the caldari missile boats look "stabby", I think the Raven fits in to caldari design philosophy well. And yeah, it looks great IMO. State Issue Raven makes my trousers shift
Kruel Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2007.09.19 04:39:00 - [31] If I bent over and took a **** right now, it would look better than the Raven. Please CCP redesign it before my alt has to fly it... I'm afraid I may go blind.
Washell Olivaw	Posted - 2007.09.19 05:06:00 - [32] Raven is love it or hate it. To design something that way is much harder then going for nice or ugly. I think this makes Caldari ships the best designed ships in the game. Other than the phallic comments about gallente ships no other races draws this much debate. Quote: Everybody has a photographic memory, some people just don't have film.
Fehnrail Caldari Colossus Technologies	Posted - 2007.09.19 05:19:00 - [33] Originally by: Adrian Steel Fools. It's a Caldari vessel, meaning it's built from the bottom up with efficiency of form in mind. Aesthetics are an extremely distant last because of the Caldari efficiency philosophy, in comparison to the drab Matari vessels, whose builders had to mass produce vessels under harsh conditions to defend their freedom. The one an only deviant in the Caldari line is the Scorpion, for which it can be argued that it was designed for psychological shock value (and perhaps the Moa as well). These are not your Gallentean engineers who probably double as fashion designers on their free time, or Amarrian engineers who add lavish religious symbols to their vessels to honour their God. Get with the program and read some backstory, punks. Efficiency: sticking communication arrays out so that a dust cloud has a good chance of breaking it off. Yeah. Raven is ugly. Not efficient ugly. Trash heap ugly. Get with the program. ...I am a part of all that I have met, Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' Shines that untravell'd world, whose margin fades For ever and for ever as I move...
Aravel Thon	Posted - 2007.09.19 05:33:00 - [34] yo momma so fat she broke ccp's character transfer system
394763156481011654816418 Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.09.19 07:46:00 - [35] I don't know what you are going on about but the Moa and Raven are probably the best looking ships in the game unlike the****got gallente models.
Scaramunga Scaramai Amarr Infinitus Odium The Church.	Posted - 2007.09.19 08:00:00 - [36] Originally by: Aravel Thon yo momma so fat she broke ccp's character transfer system someone just got served! Yo momma's so fat that when she passes gas people scream Doomsday and warp away /me snaps fingers
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.09.19 08:02:00 - [37] Come on guys. It has an awesome silhuette from far away... ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.09.19 08:27:00 - [38] Edited by: madaluap on 19/09/2007 08:31:18 Originally by: Adrian Steel Edited by: Adrian Steel on 19/09/2007 01:15:24 Originally by: Pimp Cane Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: Adrian Steel Fools. It's a Caldari vessel, meaning it's built from the bottom up with efficiency of form in mind. Aesthetics are an extremely distant last because of the Caldari efficiency philosophy, in comparison to the drab Matari vessels, whose builders had to mass produce vessels under harsh conditions to defend their freedom. The one an only deviant in the Caldari line is the Scorpion, for which it can be argued that it was designed for psychological shock value (and perhaps the Moa as well). These are not your Gallentean engineers who probably double as fashion designers on their free time, or Amarrian engineers who add lavish religious symbols to their vessels to honour their God. Get with the program and read some backstory, punks. hey dude lets swap deviant art accounts and watch naruto oh wow. i lol'd hard. I would have lol'd hard too, if I hadn't had to Wiki and Google Naruto and DeviantART. You guys obviously didn't have to bother. LOL, same here. Its a public forum, i never get these insiders jokes about manga, japanese toys or other "special" jokes (4chan). /edit: about the raven. The raven is a bird, now the raven actually has 2 wings (not the same size but still ).....i just realised thats all i could say about it. Ok here's another one. Dominix. _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Iyachtu Achlysiel Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2007.09.19 08:55:00 - [39] Raven is ugly, but in a nasty way. I like it. Drake on the other hand... My roommate put it best when he came to look at me playing and asked "Man, why are you flying a remote control?"
Reem Fairchild	Posted - 2007.09.19 09:13:00 - [40] Most Caldari ships look good, and those of you who think otherwise have no esthetic taste to speak of.
Tharsgaard Caldari Fukd up Beyond all Reckognition	Posted - 2007.09.19 10:13:00 - [41] Originally by: Arthur Frayn The saddest part about the scorp's ugliness is that if you added a symmetrical left wing, it'd be pure sex. I'd fly only the Scorp for the rest of my days if it had that damn left wing. I think I'll learn photoshop just so I can post pictures of Caldari ships made symmetrical. Just for you ---------------
Drixy	Posted - 2007.09.19 10:29:00 - [42] and what's with the damn airtraffic control tower on top of the damn thing? Get rid of that, is the raven some sort of mobile airfield, it sure has the mass for it
Freyya Axe Gang	Posted - 2007.09.19 10:53:00 - [43] Edited by: Freyya on 19/09/2007 10:54:41 Originally by: Tharsgaard Just for you Suck mah balls and call me chef! that thing makes me happy in the pants and would almost convince me to train caldari...almost.. Now lets see one of the raven. ________________________________________________ NOW COLLECTING ISD AND CCP AUTOGRAPHS please sign :) i want purrty colours :( It'll be worth something someday. -Rauth
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.09.19 11:06:00 - [44] Originally by: Adrian Steel Originally by: Virgil Aquilis I think what they are telling you is that they understand the backstory and the fact that Caldari ships are in general big lumps of grey metal with odds and ends sticking out. But even looking at it through the eyes of a Caldari designer, the thing's still damn ugly. You're a Goon. You wouldn't know ugly if you smeared your face in fedo dung and looked in the mirror. incharacter flaming, mad props ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Tharsgaard Caldari Fukd up Beyond all Reckognition	Posted - 2007.09.19 11:10:00 - [45] Originally by: Freyya Edited by: Freyya on 19/09/2007 10:54:41 Originally by: Tharsgaard Just for you Suck mah balls and call me chef! that thing makes me happy in the pants and would almost convince me to train caldari...almost.. Now lets see one of the raven. Just started doing an edit of the Raven model but the (&^$%( power for the house cut-out I'll start again later today when I have time, check back. ---------------
Skallebank Minmatar Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.19 11:24:00 - [46] i think the raven is fine. you fly one for awhile it grows on u. now the typhoon that a frikken ugly ship. imo
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.19 11:29:00 - [47] I would laugh so hard if the raven kept the same model/texturing in the new engine just to spite you lot --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
Scordite	Posted - 2007.09.19 11:42:00 - [48] Originally by: Skallebank now the typhoon that a frikken ugly ship. imo You're nuts. ----------------------------------------------- The only legitimate use of the BLINK tag: Schr÷dinger's cat is [BLINK] not [/BLINK] dead.
Xzar Fyrarr	Posted - 2007.09.19 11:48:00 - [49] Caldari have some good looking ships.. and some ships that came out of some1 arsenal of poo. Mimmatar ships are...... some are decent to look at... well........ they all are scrap metal :[ EVEN THE DAM T2 ONES /me crys. Gallente ships look like poo until you get into something bigger than the myrm :ie: NAVY MEGATHRON FTW! Amarr ships are just... "My harblinger is more shiney than yours." Caldari obvious werent looking for pertyness :P They were looking for pvp god ness :D
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.09.19 12:02:00 - [50] Originally by: Tharsgaard Originally by: Arthur Frayn The saddest part about the scorp's ugliness is that if you added a symmetrical left wing, it'd be pure sex. I'd fly only the Scorp for the rest of my days if it had that damn left wing. I think I'll learn photoshop just so I can post pictures of Caldari ships made symmetrical. Just for you That looks absolutely ridiculous. Really, really bad. Please CCP, ignore these people.
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.09.19 12:05:00 - [51] Originally by: Tharsgaard Just started doing an edit of the Raven model but the (&^$%( power for the house cut-out \o/ Its a sign that you should stop
Cassius Hawkeye Minmatar Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.09.19 12:20:00 - [52] I think the Raven looks great - its "ugliness" is a beauty in some ways. It looks quite original and - dare i say it? - graceful?. I think its just the fact that everyone & their dog flys them and gets bored of looking at them. It would look a lot better if we could see the missile racks/banks on them. Even if they weren't modules (like turrets) but simply part of the model. (ships like the Crow, Wolf, Drake and Muninn all have missile banks as part of their model). Other than that leave it as it is. :) -----------------------------------------
Tharsgaard Caldari Fukd up Beyond all Reckognition	Posted - 2007.09.19 13:03:00 - [53] Edited by: Tharsgaard on 19/09/2007 13:03:57 Originally by: Zaqar Originally by: Tharsgaard Just started doing an edit of the Raven model but the (&^$%( power for the house cut-out \o/ Its a sign that you should stop I'm back home and I'm gonna try again P.S. If it fails for any reason I'm blaming you! Edit: Iz ned a bludie diktonarie ---------------
Tharsgaard Caldari Fukd up Beyond all Reckognition	Posted - 2007.09.19 13:41:00 - [54] Symetrical Raven (and the scorp from my other post) Tbh, they dont look quite right when there symetrical. ---------------
Zaqar	Posted - 2007.09.19 14:51:00 - [55] The raven isnt so different really, but I dont really see a problem with the existing one - the asymmetry makes it interesting. I don't expect to find spaceships 'pretty', but as others have said, it sure looks deadly. The only models I have a problem with are the ones with shoddy texturing. And personally I think the current scorp is a pretty cool model - looks fit for its purpose imo. Symmetrical-Scorp has this 'legs akimbo' look to it, like it should be riding a bucking bronco or, er something....
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.09.19 14:58:00 - [56] Originally by: Sportapro Can i try some of what you've been smoking when you drew that model? He didn't draw it...it came out of his as!! "The thing always happens that you really believe in; and the belief in a thing makes it happen" - Frank Loyd Wright*
Interval Grenadiers	Posted - 2007.09.19 15:02:00 - [57] Edited by: Interval on 19/09/2007 15:03:21 Caldari ships employ the "Chewbacca defense" so that is why their design does not make sense! It's obvious....duh!
Arvald Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.09.19 15:10:00 - [58] Originally by: Tharsgaard Symetrical Raven (and the scorp from my other post) Tbh, they dont look quite right when there symetrical. wow that raven looks realy cool actualy, now the scorpion...eh...not so much ----------------------------------------------- ya cant stop the rokh and no i have not nor will i ever contribute anything constructive to your thread
Tharsgaard Caldari Fukd up Beyond all Reckognition	Posted - 2007.09.19 19:34:00 - [59] Originally by: Zaqar Symmetrical-Scorp has this 'legs akimbo' look to it, like it should be riding a bucking bronco or, er something.... Thats exactly what I thought. Maybe if the wings were brought down a bit, like until the the 'winglets' on the main wing's were horizontal? But meh, i kinda like the scorp as-is. ---------------
Zero Legion	Posted - 2007.09.19 20:19:00 - [60] Originally by: Tharsgaard Symetrical Raven (and the scorp from my other post) Tbh, they dont look quite right when there symetrical. Those are... Awesomness -------------------------------------------- We are nothing, formless and void. We are a lack of all. Alone we are powerless, together we are unstoppable. WE ARE LEGION!!!!
Sofia Roseburn Caldari Advanced Logistics	Posted - 2007.09.19 20:31:00 - [61] Originally by: Tharsgaard Symetrical Raven (and the scorp from my other post) Tbh, they dont look quite right when there symetrical. The Scorpion looks like it's straddling something. But the Raven doesn't look that bad. -----
Oedus Caro Caldari Cross Roads	Posted - 2007.09.19 21:46:00 - [62] In my opinion, yes, the Raven is by no means a pretty ship, but neither is it lacking in creativity. I expect many people will have a much improved opinion of the ship after the graphics update.
Arkyk	Posted - 2007.09.19 23:34:00 - [63] Originally by: Tharsgaard Symetrical Raven (and the scorp from my other post) Tbh, they dont look quite right when there symetrical. The Scorpion looks too much like a combat ship when it's symmetrical. I like the current look, since it comes across like the mobile platform for highly specialized gadgetry that it is. The symmetrical Raven, however, is sexy. Especially since you dumped that god-awful rust brown color. ---------------- Mostly harmless.
Corphus Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.20 00:57:00 - [64] Originally by: Adrian Steel it was designed for psychological shock value (and perhaps the Moa as well). ahahhahahaha the moa one made my day
Adrian Steel Caldari The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.09.20 01:08:00 - [65] Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: Adrian Steel Originally by: Virgil Aquilis I think what they are telling you is that they understand the backstory and the fact that Caldari ships are in general big lumps of grey metal with odds and ends sticking out. But even looking at it through the eyes of a Caldari designer, the thing's still damn ugly. You're a Goon. You wouldn't know ugly if you smeared your face in fedo dung and looked in the mirror. incharacter flaming, mad props

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