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LeGlt
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.21 09:48:00 -
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Torps are like blasters and blasters are like shotguns - they do heavy blast damage. The torps have the effect of a big blast, but it doesn't have the damage applied to the effective area - that's just wrong.
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Mihailo Great
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.21 13:42:00 -
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Edited by: Mihailo Great on 21/09/2007 13:44:06
more calcualtions and more lag, hurray!
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Christari Zuborov
Amarr
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.21 14:18:00 -
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 Originally by: Mihailo Great
Edited by: Mihailo Great on 21/09/2007 13:44:06
more calcualtions and more lag, hurray!
If they dropped the floating point arithmetic, you could add this and many other features and still be lag free. In general, calculations aren't bad, it's calculating all this crap to the 5 significant digit that's eating CCPs shorts.
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Arcadia1701
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.09.21 14:23:00 -
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Also, AOE torps. Isnt that a good way to kill ur close range DPS and tacklers:P?
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Karbowiak
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 18:54:00 -
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Edited by: Karbowiak on 21/09/2007 18:57:39
Originally by: Arcadia1701
Also, AOE torps. Isnt that a good way to kill ur close range DPS and tacklers:P?
The whole idea behind it is that the torps will only deal full damage to targets having a bigger sigradious, than xxx..
Like bombs, bombs dont do **** damage to any small vessels, while to big vessels they do..
And yes it would bring a twist to pvp. Use the AoE torps in emp and risk being concordokkened.
Its not a big change or anything, its one new ammo type for Caldari, an ammo type that will bring them back into the pvp arena.
Atm you don't see any Caldari ships in pvp, unless its fleet combat - then you have the Rokh.. but hey..
Plus if CCP decided to implement AoE torps for Caldari, it would be yet another step towards their "no blob" thing.
Imo - AoE torps would both be a great addition for pvp, and also for pve.
(actually came up with the idea when ratting, and wondering how to kill those rats faster haha  )
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Spix 'UK
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Posted - 2007.09.21 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Spix ''UK on 21/09/2007 19:04:49
Will this effect Ratting also ? .. So that we can send these torps towards npc rats & such making it easyer to farm isk =P
sorry my english not so good..me must make more isk now k thx bye!
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General StarScream
Cybertronic Decepticons
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Posted - 2007.09.22 15:29:00 -
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LOL Caldri dont need anything else.
stop trying to boost your own race, 100% of the people wanting this is Caldri.
they are just fine in both pve and pvp.
you just need to fit it right.
10 raves vs 10 blaster Megs will win.
Caldri, and missiles are so overpowerd its sick.
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flapie 2
Gallente
Flap's Construction Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.22 16:10:00 -
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Iff caldari is overpowerd or not i wont start on, but i like the initial idee.
Only how about torp use in empire ?? what happens there in a war when ur on the gate shooting ur enemy ?? WTFCONCORDBBQ ??
It would nerf the empire use greatly wont it, i mean smartbombs give that same problem.
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Selene Le'Cotiere
Amarr
I-Omniscient-I
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Posted - 2007.09.22 23:05:00 -
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I endorse this idea of granting Torps and AoE effect (perhaps even Cruises).
Keep it limited to 0.0 space, as I'm sure the Powers that Be, and Concord, would not want these kinds of weapons in peoples hands.
This new missile system could be referred to as Tactical Warheads, along with an accompanying skill of the same name.
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Karbowiak
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.22 23:53:00 -
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Could be a whole new T2 ammo part for Caldari perhaps ?..
T2 Long Range, T2 AntiShip and T2 AntiBlob lol..
Well, im guilty in trying to boost my own race thats true. But how many Ravens are you seeing in PVP?.
Their missiles are easy to counter if theyr used as snipers - 150km with a torpedo takes time, and you can warp away before it hits.
So, why not give it a boost in the effect that if it hits - it does AoE effect? :P
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True Ace
Gallente
Invicta.
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:10:00 -
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t2 apoc with a bonus to torps. boosting two races at the same time
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Fabrezio
Soldiers Of Darkness
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.23 09:06:00 -
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I agree, bring back torp AOE damage.
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Batolemaeus
Caldari
One man Carebearing
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Posted - 2007.09.23 13:49:00 -
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Keep in mind, that a flying ceptor has a quite nice signature with his mwd on.
So an interesting counter of ceptors would be..
..to shoot one of your gangmates near you.
if torpedo-aoe is applied like a bomb, it will kill ceptors quite efficiently. Because bombdamage is not calculated from speed but sig.
if torpedo-aoe is applied like smartbombdamage, it will kill ceptors and frigs even better!
So your carrier is pinned down by ceptors? Shoot at it with your ravens! The ravens damage wouldnt hurt too much..at least not the carrier.
i do not know if it is doable (or was like that back in the days when i didnt play) to tie it to both speed and sig. so an inty would not be hurt by torps.
Because using large, slow and dumb torps to counter small, fast ships sounds strange to me..
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.24 11:52:00 -
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Why not making that a new (or replacement) T2 torp?
Penalizing rate of fire but having area effect, then you have to choose carefully your ammo, shooting a lone ship with those would be expensive and not as effective, but it would be useful against packs of ships (more anti-blob!).
It should be considered some updates in the explosion radius and velocity stats to be sure that it will not be the doom of drones, inties, frigates, cloaking and all the stuff that is actualy working properly.
This also makes it the perfect sentry drone killer considering they are static, always launched together and have a BS radius (reduce signature to the signature of a heavy or a bit more?).
Many side effects to take into account even before making the first prototype!
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Cyberus
Caldari
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.24 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: General StarScream
LOL Caldri dont need anything else.
stop trying to boost your own race, 100% of the people wanting this is Caldri.
they are just fine in both pve and pvp.
you just need to fit it right.
10 raves vs 10 blaster Megs will win.
Caldri, and missiles are so overpowerd its sick.
I belave you missed whole point of the topic. Nobody ask to boost CALDARI. I belave there is more then only caldari ships has missels hard points. But we all know caldari and non caldari races that torpedos not very much used item since the missels change. Atleast i did stop use them since the patch where those were changed and belave me or not i like more fly gun ships even though i'm caldari.
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General StarScream
Cybertronic Decepticons
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Posted - 2007.09.28 04:05:00 -
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lol No its only caldri that have missles ship, the others have mixed,
and this is about Bs, Missiles are allready so strong its sick.
if they get area of effect they should do alot less Dam.
like 40% less Dam, then it would be ok.
but not with the current Dam output.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:20:00 -
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You've got to love the huge carebears that come here and try to say that Caldari is overpowered just because their raven can run lvl 4 missions. lol...
Good idea, the huge AOE explosion which is there for the looks needs to have some consequences, such as an effective AOE damage. It would also mean more Ravens primaried since by the time a long range engagement is over, the missiles are still flying
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Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari
Daikoku Fleet Shipyards
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Sinc
back in the old day had torps area effect, but at that time you could load them into standard lauchers so you could have them on frigs and you sometimes then blow yourself up in the process.
But it could be a good idea to put into the game again, so the raven can be used for real in pvp again.
All missiles had some splash damage as i recall... they also flew in spirals and exploded on any random object floating in space.
Aren't the new bombs supposed to have this kind of effect anyway?
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Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari
Daikoku Fleet Shipyards
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: General StarScream
lol No its only caldri that have missles ship, the others have mixed,
and this is about Bs, Missiles are allready so strong its sick.
if they get area of effect they should do alot less Dam.
like 40% less Dam, then it would be ok.
but not with the current Dam output.
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Ever fly a Phoon?
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Backstabber Ragnar
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Posted - 2007.10.02 14:36:00 -
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whatever makes caldari better i agree with.. /signed
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J6hkard
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Posted - 2007.10.13 11:43:00 -
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I love that idea to give some bonuses to torps, like that smartbomb effect.
More or less, right now caldaris are mostly pointless in pvp combat because torps are so damn slow and heavys are not doing much damage (they dont need to be).
True, EMC ships can tank and in pvp combat they're called as primarys in most cases.
But why the heck I'm complaining here, I'm caldari, I know its boats suck and I can fit raven like 24k tank with really tip top resistances and passive shield reg is 190sec. It's still bad because torps are slow. Or, its absolutely possible to fit ravens to boost 2000+ in every 10sec, also have good res's. Still no good, because torps are slow. So I can see the problem not in boats but in missiles/torps.
But still what the heck, I'm training some rails skills and after that I can use whatever ship in game. 
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Chi Quan
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.10.14 10:32:00 -
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let it die, devs have decided to go 180¦ the other way it seems:
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Pbs
Pumpkin Scissors
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Posted - 2007.10.14 13:02:00 -
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Who ordered torp PvP-busting? Receive and undersign... Smart bomb effect - is when someone considers himself too clever, and cuts a red wire. Big badaboom - and developers decide to teach those smart guys, what is means real PvP. Go in PvP, proud pilots of Ravens, go. Why you stop? You want shoot some NPC, want do some 4 lvl mission? Hehehe... Start whining again.
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NewDisease
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Posted - 2007.10.14 13:44:00 -
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Some might think this is a boost to the caldari, the smart people know, ofcourse this isa boost to gallente.... Imagen a neatron blaster sitting right on top of u, not only does he do way more damage then you, you're hitting yourself aswell.. gg it's all political
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