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Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.21 10:38:00 - [1] Originally by: Jago Kain Edited by: Jago Kain on 20/09/2007 15:25:06 Originally by: Death Kill The US needs a conservative government, the current administration is spending money like a drunken sailor. Are you trying to tell us that the current US govt. is not conservative? Surely that's on a par with describing {well known WWII german guy that the filter doesn't like} as a wishy-washy liberal. What's conservative about it? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.21 10:39:00 - [2] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Everytime the canadian wildfire personnal come down to help us contain fires they clean the stores out with beer and cigarettes. Say... did you ever find out just how all those fires got started? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.21 10:48:00 - [3] Originally by: DarkMatter Originally by: Death Kill Edited by: Death Kill on 20/09/2007 17:52:36 Edited by: Death Kill on 20/09/2007 17:51:58 Edited by: Death Kill on 20/09/2007 17:50:53 Originally by: DarkMatter What does that have to do with what type of government I want? I don't want to live in a country where I'm taxed to death, no thanks... Your government has given you a huuuuuge budget deficit, you owe money left and right. China owns a lot of your country, so does saudi Arabia. Your president dont care as hes a rich ** who only cares about himself just like his dad. Saudi Arabia is an exporter of wahabiism, yet your so called war presidents holds hand with those s when they visit the US. Think about that for a minute. They don't own a "LOT" of our country... They bought off debt. And what are they going to do, come and collect it from us some day in terms of land or properties here in the US? Sure, ok... Try it... Don't worry, Hillary will tax the crap out of us to decrease the deficit... Um? Historically, it's Republican presidents who run up the deficit. That's a simple matter of fact. In fact almost 80% of your national debt was created by just the 3 most recent republican administrations. BTW, Bush II has increased Federal spending by 60%**. Jeez, how "liberal" (with your money) do you want it? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.21 10:49:00 - [4] Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 21/09/2007 10:49:06 Originally by: Cippalippus Primus Originally by: DarkMatter Good! We shall see who has the last laugh... I would advise you to not hold your breath as you wait for our demise... With this trend, i give USA another 10 years before complete bankrupcy. All your countries will give us foreign aid until we're back on our feet. You may not want to, but you (your governments that is) will, and you know it... So what's worse? Seeing us climb out of the crater ourselves, or you bailing us out? I guess take your pick... It's most likely whoever is the nest president, will widely swing the pendulum the other way as far as spending. Whether Democrat or Republican. So it's a given this trend will not continue at it's current rate. I of course am hoping for a fiscally conservative Republican to win the election... But unfortunately it will be Hillary... So welfare for poor people is bad, but welfare for rich countries is good...? CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.21 10:51:00 - [5] Originally by: Amarria Black Originally by: Malcanis What's conservative about it? The large defense budget / legislate morality part. Rampant spending, insane governmental growth, throwing the Constitution out the window... not so much. Actual Conservatives might consider adhering to the "no foreign entanglements" thing... CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.21 22:39:00 - [6] Originally by: Cornucopian Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Jago Kain Edited by: Jago Kain on 20/09/2007 15:25:06 Originally by: Death Kill The US needs a conservative government, the current administration is spending money like a drunken sailor. Are you trying to tell us that the current US govt. is not conservative? Surely that's on a par with describing {well known WWII german guy that the filter doesn't like} as a wishy-washy liberal. What's conservative about it? whats progressive about it? Really, do tell. AFAIK your southern states would still love to lynch every */black/arab person in the US. "We dunt take kindly to yer kind round hee-ur!" or every politician still starting a speech with reference to god? Really, where is the progressiveness? I'm intrigued on your opinion here malcanis. Curiousity is good. For a start you might be interested to learn that I'm English. The Bush administration is not a conservative administration. They came in to power with an agenda of radical change, which they have substantially enacted. "Conservative" is not the antonym of "Progressive". There's nothing 'conservative' about the huge expansion of state power and extent. There's nothing 'conservative' about a president who only declined to veto a single bill of the over 1800 "pork barrel" items, but refused to allow a bill to make it illegal for Federal or Military personnel to use torture. There's nothing 'conservative' about a sustained and co-ordinated assault on personal freedoms The word you're looking for is 'Regressive'. Every legal mechanism required for dictatorial rule is now already in place: non-oversighted surveillance, habeas corpus is gone, citizenship can be removed by fiat, the right to public dissent is effectively gone, the electoral process is heavily compromised with international election monitoring not accepted, torture in now an acceptable method of interrogation, and a president who has been quoted as describing the US Constitution as "just a piece of ***** paper". It's now simply a question of boiling the frog. That's not 'conservatism'. It's the counter-revolution. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.

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